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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 4, 2017 17:57:18 GMT 1
If you read my previous discussion the point I'm trying to highlight is that he gets us out of trouble sand gets us playing further upfield. Whether directly or indirectly he actually sets the chance up, the point remains that without him we wouldn't create half as many chances. Is that something only Mooy does ? Surely thats just the job of a central midfielder, it's what Clayton and Butterfield did too We've never had a central midfielder just like Mooy. |
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Post by zoso on Jun 4, 2017 18:04:55 GMT 1
Gareth Jones has a word for that.  I have a word for Gareth Jones  Does it rhyme with "top hat"? |
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Post by isleofmanterrier on Jun 4, 2017 18:08:38 GMT 1
If you read my previous discussion the point I'm trying to highlight is that he gets us out of trouble sand gets us playing further upfield. Whether directly or indirectly he actually sets the chance up, the point remains that without him we wouldn't create half as many chances. Is that something only Mooy does ? Surely thats just the job of a central midfielder, it's what Clayton and Butterfield did too Not something only he does no, but he does it better and more frequently than any other player at the club. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jun 4, 2017 18:08:52 GMT 1
I have a word for Gareth Jones Does it rhyme with "top hat"? more trex - (or cooking fat) |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Jun 4, 2017 18:15:41 GMT 1
I have a word for Gareth Jones Does it rhyme with "top hat"? John Cooper-Clarke getting a lot of attention today... |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jun 4, 2017 18:29:18 GMT 1
This ?
Twat
Like a Night Club in the morning, you’re the bitter end
Like a recently disinfected shit-house, you’re clean round the bend
You give me the horrors
Too bad to be true
All of my tomorrow’s
Are lousy coz of you
You put the Shat in Shatter
Put the Pain in Spain
Your germs are splattered about
Your face is just a stain
You’re certainly no raver, commonly known as a drag
Do us all a favour, here… wear this polythene bag
You’re like a dose of scabies
I’ve got you under my skin
You make life a fairy tale… Grimm!
People mention murder, the moment you arrive
I’d consider killing you if I thought you were alive
You’ve got this slippery quality
It makes me think of phlegm
And a dual personality
I hate both of them
Your bad breath, vamps disease, destruction, and decay
Please, please, please, please, take yourself away
Like a death a birthday party
You ruin all the fun
Like a sucked and spat our smartie
you’re no use to anyone
Like the shadow of the guillotine
On a dead consumptive’s face
Speaking as an outsider
What do you think of the human race
You went to a progressive psychiatrist
He recommended suicide…
Before scratching your bad name off his list
And pointing the way outside
You hear laughter breaking through, it makes you want to fart
You’re heading for a breakdown
Better pull yourself apart
Your dirty name gets passed about when something goes amiss
Your attitudes are platitudes
Just make me wanna piss
What kind of creature bore you
Was is some kind of bat
They can’t find a good word for you
But I can…
TWAT
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 4, 2017 18:51:03 GMT 1
This ? Twat Like a Night Club in the morning, you’re the bitter end Like a recently disinfected shit-house, you’re clean round the bend You give me the horrors Too bad to be true All of my tomorrow’s Are lousy coz of you You put the Shat in Shatter Put the Pain in Spain Your germs are splattered about Your face is just a stain You’re certainly no raver, commonly known as a drag Do us all a favour, here… wear this polythene bag You’re like a dose of scabies I’ve got you under my skin You make life a fairy tale… Grimm! People mention murder, the moment you arrive I’d consider killing you if I thought you were alive You’ve got this slippery quality It makes me think of phlegm And a dual personality I hate both of them Your bad breath, vamps disease, destruction, and decay Please, please, please, please, take yourself away Like a death a birthday party You ruin all the fun Like a sucked and spat our smartie you’re no use to anyone Like the shadow of the guillotine On a dead consumptive’s face Speaking as an outsider What do you think of the human race You went to a progressive psychiatrist He recommended suicide… Before scratching your bad name off his list And pointing the way outside You hear laughter breaking through, it makes you want to fart You’re heading for a breakdown Better pull yourself apart Your dirty name gets passed about when something goes amiss Your attitudes are platitudes Just make me wanna piss What kind of creature bore you Was is some kind of bat They can’t find a good word for you But I can… TWAT Was doing a bbq earlier and this came on my phone 😀 |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 4, 2017 18:53:42 GMT 1
Is that something only Mooy does ? Surely thats just the job of a central midfielder, it's what Clayton and Butterfield did too We've never had a central midfielder just like Mooy. Bald ? |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 4, 2017 18:55:01 GMT 1
Is that something only Mooy does ? Surely thats just the job of a central midfielder, it's what Clayton and Butterfield did too Not something only he does no, but he does it better and more frequently than any other player at the club. It doesn't matter now though does it, he seems to be the one loan player who isn't looking to stay |
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Post by isleofmanterrier on Jun 4, 2017 19:00:29 GMT 1
Not something only he does no, but he does it better and more frequently than any other player at the club. It doesn't matter now though does it, he seems to be the one loan player who isn't looking to stay In relation to our conversation, no it doesn't matter. In relation to the original question I was replying to (would I prefer Wood or Mooy) my answer remains. |
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Post by tvor on Jun 4, 2017 19:07:45 GMT 1
We've never had a central midfielder just like Mooy. Bald ? Was a big fan of both Clayton and Butterfield but they played in weaker Town teams. Mooy has probably benefitted from being in more settled and stronger team and having that confidence in it. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 4, 2017 19:22:56 GMT 1
Was a big fan of both Clayton and Butterfield but they played in weaker Town teams. Mooy has probably benefitted from being in more settled and stronger team and having that confidence in it. I'd have liked to see Butts with Wagner in charge of him, I think he'd have been a hell of a player |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 4, 2017 19:30:10 GMT 1
It doesn't matter now though does it, he seems to be the one loan player who isn't looking to stay In relation to our conversation, no it doesn't matter. In relation to the original question I was replying to (would I prefer Wood or Mooy) my answer remains. I don't think I'd pay £10m for Wood either, this has been his only outstanding season hasn't it ? |
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Post by isleofmanterrier on Jun 4, 2017 20:29:12 GMT 1
In relation to our conversation, no it doesn't matter. In relation to the original question I was replying to (would I prefer Wood or Mooy) my answer remains. I don't think I'd pay £10m for Wood either, this has been his only outstanding season hasn't it ? First one I can remember! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 20:42:53 GMT 1
If you read my previous discussion the point I'm trying to highlight is that he gets us out of trouble sand gets us playing further upfield. Whether directly or indirectly he actually sets the chance up, the point remains that without him we wouldn't create half as many chances. Is that something only Mooy does ? Surely thats just the job of a central midfielder, it's what Clayton and Butterfield did too I reckon Clayton, with top flight experience under his belt now, could easily slot in and do the Mooy role at half the cost. He looked effective in that role (other than when cocking up at the back, but we didn't have the comfortable ball playing defenders as an escape) to me, until someone (Grayson? Robins? Powell??) ludicrously decided he should play wide right of a three. |
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Post by tvor on Jun 4, 2017 20:53:27 GMT 1
Is that something only Mooy does ? Surely thats just the job of a central midfielder, it's what Clayton and Butterfield did too I reckon Clayton, with top flight experience under his belt now, could easily slot in and do the Mooy role at half the cost. He looked effective in that role (other than when cocking up at the back, but we didn't have the comfortable ball playing defenders as an escape) to me, until someone (Grayson? Robins? Powell??) ludicrously decided he should play wide right of a three. He went just before Robins did so won't have played under Powell. I always thought that His move to Boro signalled the end for Robins. Pretty much everything went through Clayton and we had no plan B on the first game we had without him which was the drubbing by Bournmouth. |
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Post by tvor on Jun 4, 2017 20:57:39 GMT 1
Was a big fan of both Clayton and Butterfield but they played in weaker Town teams. Mooy has probably benefitted from being in more settled and stronger team and having that confidence in it. I'd have liked to see Butts with Wagner in charge of him, I think he'd have been a hell of a player I could see that too. His response to the Derby fans when we played with them shows it hasn't quite been the dream move. And there was a Boro fan on here suggesting Clayton wasn't quite good enough for the prem. A bit of Wagner magic could have been all the difference. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 4, 2017 21:31:51 GMT 1
Is that something only Mooy does ? Surely thats just the job of a central midfielder, it's what Clayton and Butterfield did too I reckon Clayton, with top flight experience under his belt now, could easily slot in and do the Mooy role at half the cost. He looked effective in that role (other than when cocking up at the back, but we didn't have the comfortable ball playing defenders as an escape) to me, until someone (Grayson? Robins? Powell??) ludicrously decided he should play wide right of a three. I'd rather have Butts than Clayts but I can see the rationale in the beardy weirdy being a replacement |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 4, 2017 22:22:31 GMT 1
We've never had a central midfielder just like Mooy. Bald ? and Australian. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jun 17, 2017 18:58:20 GMT 1
Anyone reckon we will sign the lad permanently? Think he would be a great signing personally. Can't see Brown coming back but you never know. We missed Palmers creativity and attacking flare after he got injured.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jun 17, 2017 19:02:51 GMT 1
I reckon Clayton, with top flight experience under his belt now, could easily slot in and do the Mooy role at half the cost. He looked effective in that role (other than when cocking up at the back, but we didn't have the comfortable ball playing defenders as an escape) to me, until someone (Grayson? Robins? Powell??) ludicrously decided he should play wide right of a three. I'd rather have Butts than Clayts but I can see the rationale in the beardy weirdy being a replacement Is that Butts who had a strop-on and wouldn't get on the bus to Fulham because he wanted a transfer? I bet he'd love to play for us now. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jun 17, 2017 19:04:38 GMT 1
I'd rather have Butts than Clayts but I can see the rationale in the beardy weirdy being a replacement Is that Butts who had a strop-on and wouldn't get on the bus to Fulham because he wanted a transfer? I bet he'd love to play for us now. Bet he would, tbf I bet all the Charlie big times that we've left behind in the Championship would love to play for us. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Jun 17, 2017 19:14:16 GMT 1
Is that Butts who had a strop-on and wouldn't get on the bus to Fulham because he wanted a transfer? I bet he'd love to play for us now. Bet he would, tbf I bet all the Charlie big times that we've left behind in the Championship would love to play for us. ... and I forgot the most important bit. He'd have to get fit, but he still wouldn't be good enough. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jun 17, 2017 19:16:18 GMT 1
Bet he would, tbf I bet all the Charlie big times that we've left behind in the Championship would love to play for us. ... and I forgot the most important bit. He'd have to get fit, but he still wouldn't be good enough. The only ex players from our championship era that id love to see back at town would be Chilwell and possibly Clayton. Rest can swivel. |
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Post by NoToTrumpDonors on Jun 17, 2017 19:40:26 GMT 1
... and I forgot the most important bit. He'd have to get fit, but he still wouldn't be good enough. The only ex players from our championship era that id love to see back at town would be Chilwell and possibly Clayton. Rest can swivel. Championship era be gone! |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 17, 2017 21:43:25 GMT 1
I'd rather have Butts than Clayts but I can see the rationale in the beardy weirdy being a replacement Is that Butts who had a strop-on and wouldn't get on the bus to Fulham because he wanted a transfer? I bet he'd love to play for us now. And still got MoM in that game ? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 17, 2017 21:45:53 GMT 1
Is that Butts who had a strop-on and wouldn't get on the bus to Fulham because he wanted a transfer? I bet he'd love to play for us now. And still got MoM in that game ? I don't see what your point is there ... he wouldn't get on the bus .. he was persuaded ... then when he played he played pretty well .. they're not mutually exclusive |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 17, 2017 21:56:20 GMT 1
And still got MoM in that game ? I don't see what your point is there ... he wouldn't get on the bus .. he was persuaded ... then when he played he played pretty well .. they're not mutually exclusive My point is he "allegedly" wouldn't get on the bus but when "persuaded" still put in a MoM performance. I still wonder what Wagner might've done with him given a chance |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 17, 2017 21:58:34 GMT 1
I don't see what your point is there ... he wouldn't get on the bus .. he was persuaded ... then when he played he played pretty well .. they're not mutually exclusive My point is he "allegedly" wouldn't get on the bus but when "persuaded" still put in a MoM performance. I still wonder what Wagner might've done with him given a chance To be fair being man of the match in that team wasn't the hardest thing .. I liked butterfield a lot, certainly when compared to Clayton .. but not a patch on Mooy brown or palmer imo |
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Post by loumacari on Jun 17, 2017 21:58:40 GMT 1
I don't see what your point is there ... he wouldn't get on the bus .. he was persuaded ... then when he played he played pretty well .. they're not mutually exclusive My point is he "allegedly" wouldn't get on the bus but when "persuaded" still put in a MoM performance. I still wonder what Wagner might've done with him given a chance He's not as good as Mooy and never will be. The two of them wouldn't have played together. So other than offering another option he'd have offered very little for the majority of the season. |
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