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Post by space hardware on Jun 17, 2017 21:59:30 GMT 1
I don't see what your point is there ... he wouldn't get on the bus .. he was persuaded ... then when he played he played pretty well .. they're not mutually exclusive My point is he "allegedly" wouldn't get on the bus but when "persuaded" still put in a MoM performance. I still wonder what Wagner might've done with him given a chance Might be harsh but I can't see Butterfield enjoying the double training sessions that Wagner puts on. Decent player but a bit of a pea heart. |
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Post by htfc1908 on Jun 17, 2017 22:01:08 GMT 1
I don't see what your point is there ... he wouldn't get on the bus .. he was persuaded ... then when he played he played pretty well .. they're not mutually exclusive My point is he "allegedly" wouldn't get on the bus but when "persuaded" still put in a MoM performance. I still wonder what Wagner might've done with him given a chanceKicked him in the nuts if he tried that on with him, or let Christoph loose on him  |
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Post by huddstownonly on Jun 30, 2017 8:01:13 GMT 1
Hope he is still one of our targets for next season - he will be a bigger star in the lng term than Izzy but would be happy with both
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Post by morleyterrier on Jun 30, 2017 8:07:12 GMT 1
Hope he is still one of our targets for next season - he will be a bigger star in the lng term than Izzy but would be happy with both If Nathan Ake from Chelsea is going to Bournemouth for £20m then how much are Palmer and Izzy worth? 😳. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 8:08:14 GMT 1
Hope he is still one of our targets for next season - he will be a bigger star in the lng term than Izzy but would be happy with both If Nathan Ake from Chelsea is going to Bournemouth for £20m then how much are Palmer and Izzy worth? 😳. as much as someone is willing to pay for them. |
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Post by morleyterrier on Jun 30, 2017 8:09:05 GMT 1
If Nathan Ake from Chelsea is going to Bournemouth for £20m then how much are Palmer and Izzy worth? 😳. as much as someone is willing to pay for them. Well that's a given!. I suspect more than we are willing to pay. |
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Post by Batman on Jun 30, 2017 8:38:23 GMT 1
as much as someone is willing to pay for them. Well that's a given!. I suspect more than we are willing to pay. Nathan Ake has had a few seasons of Premier League experience though, and has proven he can play at this level. As much as I think Izzy and Kasey are both cracking players, they are untested in the Prem (no doubt in my mind they can compete at this level mind, but any fee involved should reflect this). |
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Post by morleyterrier on Jun 30, 2017 8:51:47 GMT 1
Well that's a given!. I suspect more than we are willing to pay. Nathan Ake has had a few seasons of Premier League experience though, and has proven he can play at this level. As much as I think Izzy and Kasey are both cracking players, they are untested in the Prem (no doubt in my mind they can compete at this level mind, but any fee involved should reflect this). How much do you reckon either would cost?. |
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Post by mids on Jun 30, 2017 9:21:10 GMT 1
Nathan Ake has had a few seasons of Premier League experience though, and has proven he can play at this level. As much as I think Izzy and Kasey are both cracking players, they are untested in the Prem (no doubt in my mind they can compete at this level mind, but any fee involved should reflect this). How much do you reckon either would cost?. Probably a British equivalent of Colonel Steve Austin, but without the need to re-build him, even if we did have access to the technology  |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Jun 30, 2017 9:21:14 GMT 1
Nathan Ake has had a few seasons of Premier League experience though, and has proven he can play at this level. As much as I think Izzy and Kasey are both cracking players, they are untested in the Prem (no doubt in my mind they can compete at this level mind, but any fee involved should reflect this). How much do you reckon either would cost?. I don't know, but Chelsea have sold players for a total of £126M with a combined total of 29 PL appearances between them in past few years. Which is pretty staggering and suggests they won't be cheap! |
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Post by morleyterrier on Jun 30, 2017 9:22:04 GMT 1
How much do you reckon either would cost?. I don't know, but Chelsea have sold players for a total of £126M with a combined total of 29 PL appearances between them in past few years. Which is pretty staggering and suggests they won't be cheap! Yes as much as I would like them to stay, I suspect that there may be better value out there. |
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Post by townrwe on Jun 30, 2017 9:24:31 GMT 1
Nathan Ake has had a few seasons of Premier League experience though, and has proven he can play at this level. As much as I think Izzy and Kasey are both cracking players, they are untested in the Prem (no doubt in my mind they can compete at this level mind, but any fee involved should reflect this). How much do you reckon either would cost?. vtd Really... it should be 2 or 3 million. They had a "reasonable" season last year in a great team... paying anymore really is a punt. Obviously the potential has a price as well, which you cant really put a price on, but a big sell on and reasonable buy back may limit that. If ince is worth 5 million plus add ons then palmer and brown have to be less. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 9:32:32 GMT 1
With the limitation of one loan player within the premier league the concept of a big sell on plus a buy back clause would be a way of working within this, suiting both the clubs. Chelsea may well be adapting their model accordingly, as might others. Kasey was the best signing last year imo and he would be this year also  |
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Post by Batman on Jun 30, 2017 9:39:01 GMT 1
How much do you reckon either would cost?. vtd Really... it should be 2 or 3 million. They had a "reasonable" season last year in a great team... paying anymore really is a punt. Obviously the potential has a price as well, which you cant really put a price on, but a big sell on and reasonable buy back may limit that. If ince is worth 5 million plus add ons then palmer and brown have to be less. I'd say £4.5m tops for either of them - in the grand scheme of things all Premier League related that's not a huge amount, you see deals done for more in the Championship! |
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Post by ldotm on Jun 30, 2017 9:57:39 GMT 1
Can't see anything less than 8m for Palmer, you pay for potential and for me this kid could be a 30m pound player in the future. Sounds daft but the natural talent he has is unbelievable, if he continues to be nurtured right and stays fit he will be one hell of a player.
I advise you to watch back some of the highlights on YouTube as I did a few days ago (out of boredom due to not getting my town fix at the moment), and it just reminded me how good he actually was. So key in the 10 role, Derby, Forest, Brentford, QPR at home, Norwich away to name a few where he looks unplayable.
I love Brown too and would take him in a heartbeat but if we had to sign one permanently it's Palmer all day for me.
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Post by townatheart on Jun 30, 2017 10:08:33 GMT 1
Can't see anything less than 8m for Palmer, you pay for potential and for me this kid could be a 30m pound player in the future. Sounds daft but the natural talent he has is unbelievable, if he continues to be nurtured right and stays fit he will be one hell of a player. I advise you to watch back some of the highlights on YouTube as I did a few days ago (out of boredom due to not getting my town fix at the moment), and it just reminded me how good he actually was. So key in the 10 role, Derby, Forest, Brentford, QPR at home, Norwich away to name a few where he looks unplayable. I love Brown too and would take him in a heartbeat but if we had to sign one permanently it's Palmer all day for me. Fully agree, but likewise, why it is more likely Chelsea would LOAN Palmer and SELL Brown. That would be my second choice, but would happily settle for that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 10:10:11 GMT 1
Palmer will sign on a permanent deal.
If he doesn't Ted will run around Elland Road naked with a Ken Bates mask on.
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Post by pickup on Jun 30, 2017 10:11:16 GMT 1
£8m for both of them, with £2m extra in add ons for each player, so could rise to £12m for the pair! I think everyone could be happy with that deal, if not, grab at least one of them on loan, with a view to purchase at minimum!
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Post by upthetown on Jun 30, 2017 10:13:09 GMT 1
Palmer will sign on a permanent deal. If he doesn't Ted will run around Elland Road naked with a Ken Bates mask on. Also known as Ted's usual Friday teatime. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Jun 30, 2017 11:00:27 GMT 1
Working on deals for both him and brown according to Wagner
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Post by kes on Jun 30, 2017 11:01:25 GMT 1
Working on deals for both him and brown according to Wagner But won`t get both. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Jun 30, 2017 11:08:11 GMT 1
Working on deals for both him and brown according to Wagner But won`t get both. Said unlikely not won't |
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Post by upthetown on Jun 30, 2017 11:11:05 GMT 1
It was far more unlikely that we'd get promoted, and we did. |
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Post by aca00js on Jun 30, 2017 17:19:34 GMT 1
Clutching a straws but I hope he meant only sign one of them permanently and get the other on loan ;d
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Post by ldotm on Jun 30, 2017 20:36:17 GMT 1
Palmer is signing on loan, Brown off to Brighton.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 20:42:32 GMT 1
Palmer is signing on loan, Brown off to Brighton. If that's the case, I'm off the hook and Ted is on it! I'm loving Palmer instead, and through it all, you offered Mooy protection, a little pass and deflection, whether Smith's right or wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 20:43:52 GMT 1
Is Palmer ready for the Prem?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 20:46:43 GMT 1
Is Palmer ready for the Prem? Sounds like we are going to find out |
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Post by philincalifornia on Jun 30, 2017 20:46:43 GMT 1
Is Palmer ready for the Prem? Is the Prem ready for Palmer more like !!!! |
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Post by crux on Jun 30, 2017 20:51:05 GMT 1
Is Palmer ready for the Prem? Yes, I think he is. He has very quick feet and is a very intelligent player, a little more refined than Brown who is more powerful/direct. With the striker(s) already signed and with one or both of Ince and Burke to come, then Palmer is a better fit. I can't believe our attacking options could be: Depoitre, Mounié, Wells, VLP, Kachunga, Palmer, Ince, Burke and Quaner. With Payne, Scannell, Bunn and Lolley currently on the books as well. |
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