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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 14:43:15 GMT 1
Of course, with the increased number of games that fall outside the Saturday afternoon protected broadcast window, there is also the chance of having beamback games to Canalside, as per the away Wednesday play off.
I know historically the costs of doing this have been prohibitive, and I did wonder if the Wednesday beamback was a backhander off the back of the summer outdoor crappy cinema showings they're having at Canalside...but surely the chance of 500-1000 or more captive folk turning up and drinking and throwing money at the club every three weeks is something to explore??
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jun 14, 2017 17:41:53 GMT 1
As for your last point they need to close the membership of the B&W Foundation to new members because all that will happen is people will join just to get a chance of a ticket and they'll desert it as soon as we're relegated. That is based on the premise that a SC holder AND BWF member still gets priority. An additional factor could be introduced e.g. Number of years being a SC holder. This is only an example and not meant as a solution. The point is that some other factor could be added, as long as it does not get too complicated. |
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Post by scoffsablue on Jun 14, 2017 17:51:06 GMT 1
Hi all - I have been supporting town for some 35 years. Had a season ticket from don't know when but lived in south London since 99 and must have given up the season ticket in he early 00's. Make 4-8 home games a season and most of the southern games. Whether home or away, I'm used to paying on the gate. Now thinking I have pretty much zero chance of getting a ticket for any london away games. Wondering If anyone had any idea on how they are likely to be allocated? Also - would me buying a home season ticket increase my chances? #UTT Initial conversations led to away ticket priority being given to time served SC holders as will be held on the HTAFC database...from this there may also be a % ballot for the newer/younger supporters who obviously wouldn't have the same length of history as the older fans....We should have confirmation at the beginning of July. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 14, 2017 17:58:42 GMT 1
I would hope that the club have had a word with Hull & Middlesbrough to see what they did, and how successful it was. Prior to promotion, their crowds were about the same as ours, so it would make sense Not sure their away support is anywhere near as good as ours, especially Hull. |
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Post by detox on Jun 14, 2017 18:00:40 GMT 1
I still think my idea from a month or so ago could work - split the SC holders into 3 equal groups, A, B C. split the away games into categories 1, 2and 3 ..divide up the games equally into the 3 groups (of approx 6,000 sc holders) then it's a first come first served for that group.. then next time it's group B's turn and so on...at least that way everyone gets around a 50/50 chance one game in 3..so you could see 6 away games . It wouldn't stop fans from cheating and bidding for a mate , but short of checking identities at away grounds we'd have to rely on good faith amongst ourselves. Any undersold tickets from a group could carry over to the other groups on a straight first come first served basis...ie bonus time.
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Post by worksop1 on Jun 14, 2017 18:23:03 GMT 1
Regular at Town since 1966 - My wife and I attended 14 away games last season, missed 2 due to hols, planned and 1 sick, also all home games - B&W member who regularly attends Canalside even for mid week lunch despite living where I do. So like a lot of B&W do not just want tickets for the top matches
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Post by Holmfield Town on Jun 14, 2017 18:52:22 GMT 1
For those asking or wondering what sort allocations we are likely to receive. This is what Middlesbrough got last season:
Premier League Away Allocation
Arsenal - 3,000
Bournemouth - 1,146
Brighton - 3,000
Burnley - 2,140
Chelsea - 3,000
Crystal Palace - 2,545
Everton - 3,000
Leicester - 3,000
Liverpool - 3,000
Man City - 3,000
Man Utd - 3,000
Newcastle - 3,000
Southampton - 3,000
Stoke - 2,774
Swansea - 2,090
Spurs - 3,000
Watford - 2,150
West Brom - 2,685
West Ham - 3,000
Brighton and Newcastle have been based on the fact we got 3,200 for Newcastle this season and Brighton can hold more than 3,000 behind the goal whether they give that much not sure.
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Post by drewden on Jun 14, 2017 19:16:40 GMT 1
B/W Foundation membership it ls then.
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Post by softboy on Jun 14, 2017 20:15:45 GMT 1
been mentioned a priority scheme for most of tickets with some in a ballot scheme - not sure how this would work - if say 500 were held back for a ballot of season ticket holders then the club would need to check which of the 17500 season ticket holders were actually interested in a ticket for that particular game - they would not put all season ticket holders in the ballot as some would not want a ticket anyway
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 14, 2017 20:16:35 GMT 1
For those asking or wondering what sort allocations we are likely to receive. This is what Middlesbrough got last season: Premier League Away Allocation Arsenal - 3,000 Bournemouth - 1,146 Brighton - 3,000 Burnley - 2,140 Chelsea - 3,000 Crystal Palace - 2,545 Everton - 3,000 Leicester - 3,000 Liverpool - 3,000 Man City - 3,000 Man Utd - 3,000 Newcastle - 3,000 Southampton - 3,000 Stoke - 2,774 Swansea - 2,090 Spurs - 3,000 Watford - 2,150 West Brom - 2,685 West Ham - 3,000 Brighton and Newcastle have been based on the fact we got 3,200 for Newcastle this season and Brighton can hold more than 3,000 behind the goal whether they give that much not sure. Some of those could well be initial allocations, rather than the maximum that could be given. With spurs at wembley this time, you'd think the away allocation would be pretty big- maybe 6000 or something? |
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Post by softboy on Jun 14, 2017 20:19:15 GMT 1
i've had a season ticket for over 40 years - missed1 home league game in 30 years - attended 20 plus away games for 6 years and i'm worried i won't be a priority case andget tickets - perhaps a £1000 terriers on tour scheme to tie in with the philosophy of the greedy league - id pay to get tickets for all away games
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Post by Jack on Jun 14, 2017 20:28:43 GMT 1
The key to this priorty thing is that Liverpool in our 5th away game of the season shouldn't be anybody's first away game of the season.
If you don't go to at least 3 of Palace, West Ham, Burnley & Swansea in the first 4 away games then you need to be very lucky and/or very very quick to get a ticket for Anfield.
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Post by Holmfield Town on Jun 14, 2017 20:32:09 GMT 1
For those asking or wondering what sort allocations we are likely to receive. This is what Middlesbrough got last season: Premier League Away Allocation Arsenal - 3,000 Bournemouth - 1,146 Brighton - 3,000 Burnley - 2,140 Chelsea - 3,000 Crystal Palace - 2,545 Everton - 3,000 Leicester - 3,000 Liverpool - 3,000 Man City - 3,000 Man Utd - 3,000 Newcastle - 3,000 Southampton - 3,000 Stoke - 2,774 Swansea - 2,090 Spurs - 3,000 Watford - 2,150 West Brom - 2,685 West Ham - 3,000 Brighton and Newcastle have been based on the fact we got 3,200 for Newcastle this season and Brighton can hold more than 3,000 behind the goal whether they give that much not sure. Some of those could well be initial allocations, rather than the maximum that could be given. With spurs at wembley this time, you'd think the away allocation would be pretty big- maybe 6000 or something? Even with the capacity at Wembley being 90,000 the Premier League ruling or whatever states that maximum away allocation can only be 3,000 so they are likely to be the numbers. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 14, 2017 20:48:35 GMT 1
Hi all - I have been supporting town for some 35 years. Had a season ticket from don't know when but lived in south London since 99 and must have given up the season ticket in he early 00's. Make 4-8 home games a season and most of the southern games. Whether home or away, I'm used to paying on the gate. Now thinking I have pretty much zero chance of getting a ticket for any london away games. Wondering If anyone had any idea on how they are likely to be allocated? Also - would me buying a home season ticket increase my chances? #UTT They will be on sale to season ticket holders before general public I would think. Then if you chose your matches carefully ..... Brighton, Southampton, Watford, Bournemouth .... |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jun 14, 2017 20:51:42 GMT 1
Hi all - I have been supporting town for some 35 years. Had a season ticket from don't know when but lived in south London since 99 and must have given up the season ticket in he early 00's. Make 4-8 home games a season and most of the southern games. Whether home or away, I'm used to paying on the gate. Now thinking I have pretty much zero chance of getting a ticket for any london away games. Wondering If anyone had any idea on how they are likely to be allocated? Also - would me buying a home season ticket increase my chances? #UTT They will be on sale to season ticket holders before general public I would think. Then if you chose your matches carefully ..... Brighton, Southampton, Watford, Bournemouth .... ....and Everton, Richard. Remember..... |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 14, 2017 20:55:02 GMT 1
It's a tough one. For me loyalty points from previous away games should be the main method but we don't have them so can't. Sean Jarvis has already said that those who have been displaced for cameras will get priority plus Blue & White Foundation is sold on the website listing away priority as a main feature so however many are in that will have to get priority too. Throw in 4,000 who have had a season ticket from 2008 (though there may be some duplicates) and that is a lot of 'top priority' going for smaller away allocations, not even taking into account Terriers on Tour members from last season who might feel they deserve some sort of priority even if there isn't going to be such a club next season. The White Rose Club is also still advertised on the website - but is now closed to new members. Told there will be some other options coming up. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 14, 2017 20:59:31 GMT 1
They will be on sale to season ticket holders before general public I would think. Then if you chose your matches carefully ..... Brighton, Southampton, Watford, Bournemouth .... ....and Everton, Richard. Remember..... Sush - I've got privileges- but don't know if it exceeds one yet. |
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Post by sabailand on Jun 15, 2017 15:24:54 GMT 1
When tickets are in demand,one single person shouldnt be able to buy god knows how many tickets irrespective of how many peoples season cards he has!Its not right when people tell their mates to `get us one too heres my client ref/whatever` and then people are being left disappointed cos of lazy twats!
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 15, 2017 15:43:09 GMT 1
When tickets are in demand,one single person shouldnt be able to buy god knows how many tickets irrespective of how many peoples season cards he has!Its not right when people tell their mates to `get us one too heres my client ref/whatever` and then people are being left disappointed cos of lazy twats! Rubbish. All sorts of reasons why this happens mainly cos people have friends Personally I buy both my kids a ticket as well If you've got priority you can use your details |
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Post by sabailand on Jun 15, 2017 15:58:46 GMT 1
When tickets are in demand,one single person shouldnt be able to buy god knows how many tickets irrespective of how many peoples season cards he has!Its not right when people tell their mates to `get us one too heres my client ref/whatever` and then people are being left disappointed cos of lazy twats! Rubbish. All sorts of reasons why this happens mainly cos people have friends Personally I buy both my kids a ticket as well If you've got priority you can use your details I accept some circumstances such as buying them for kids etc,but i stand by what i said,some(not all)just cant be arsed! |
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jun 15, 2017 16:55:32 GMT 1
For those asking or wondering what sort allocations we are likely to receive. This is what Middlesbrough got last season: Premier League Away Allocation Arsenal - 3,000 Bournemouth - 1,146 Brighton - 3,000 Burnley - 2,140 Chelsea - 3,000 Crystal Palace - 2,545 Everton - 3,000 Leicester - 3,000 Liverpool - 3,000 Man City - 3,000 Man Utd - 3,000 Newcastle - 3,000 Southampton - 3,000 Stoke - 2,774 Swansea - 2,090 Spurs - 3,000 Watford - 2,150 West Brom - 2,685 West Ham - 3,000 Brighton and Newcastle have been based on the fact we got 3,200 for Newcastle this season and Brighton can hold more than 3,000 behind the goal whether they give that much not sure. And Spurs are not playing at White Hart Lane |
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Post by cfromhx on Jun 15, 2017 17:22:18 GMT 1
money coming into the club is 'loyalty'...  ? why is it so hard for people to understand this fact... people pay money in wether they go to a particular away game or not.. my relatives live in cornwall, they buy season cards and pay into the B&W every month.. unless you can prove that the majority of B&W members earn more money than the 'majority' of travelling support(who are not B&W members etc) then your 'loyalty' speech holds absolutely no weight at all.. Loyalty is whatever you want to class it as, this club needs every penny and the loyalty of that money coming in is always just as significant as an away fan.. This isn't about loyalty to the club, it's about away fan loyalty, if you're mixing up the two you're missing the argument. Why should someone who treks up and down the country supporting Town away from home week-in-week-out lose out in priority to someone who hasn't attended any away game so far that season but stumped up a bit of cash at the beginning for the privilege? In my opinion they shouldn't. I'm not saying B&WF and Patrons shouldn't be rewarded, I'm just saying an actual history of away attendance should trump that. Cash for peerages. I ll probably get dogs abuse for this, but here goes what the f. Read till end because got some ideas how to have a bit of a compromise on it,reward both B&W and for how many away gaes you go to. I wish there had been a loyalty scheme for how any away games you attended going back for years as i d probably be near the top of the list, but as I see it, currently if people can afford to go to every away game they can probably afford to pay for the B&W,patrons or Terriers on Tour if they bring that back too. So do both and you'll have nothing to grumble about.You have to face it, it s fact of life that football is an expensive business if we want to be successful as a club and that needs investment from supporters as well as top sponsorships to help Deano out.Attendance prices don't even cover players wages fully I don't think. The vast mj of money is TV money of coarse but it also needs investment from those other things too.I do both,I travel all over the country watching Town,have been to 95 grounds watching Town and I'm a B&W member. Will pay for any extra memberships needed too to be one of the first to be able to get away tickets.Also I think those that think they are "The" supporters because they know 3 songs aren't the best supporters either.Some reward should be given to supporters that know a lot ore off by heart.If you're a true supporter you'll learn a lot more off by heart like me and several other older lads do that know over 100.There should be a reward for being near the front of the queue for away tickets for that too. Queue the abuse from those who only know 3 thinking they are the best and don't realise I ve always just been trying to improve our support to how it used to be to help the team. My comprimise would work like this.Give top priority to those who attend most away games but only give them top priority for the first 25 to 50% of the away tickets,then the next 25% first priority is to those who have all the other memberships you can buy plus a good record of away attendances then rest to those with a good away attendance plus just one of the other memberships plus Id also add on those that know the most songs to each of those to give them top priority in each group.That would satisfy everyone I think and by backing them for success i m talking about a longish /term plan aimed at the next 10 to 20 years time when I don t want us to just see surviving in the Premiership as our top aim be trying to aim at trying to qualify for the Europa cup or watever its called then that would come after building up the size of the club a bit further again too over the next 10 to 20 years . |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 15, 2017 17:28:21 GMT 1
No further evidence required that you are either on the wind up or need sectioning
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 17:38:00 GMT 1
For those asking or wondering what sort allocations we are likely to receive. This is what Middlesbrough got last season: Premier League Away Allocation Arsenal - 3,000 Bournemouth - 1,146 Brighton - 3,000 Burnley - 2,140 Chelsea - 3,000 Crystal Palace - 2,545 Everton - 3,000 Leicester - 3,000 Liverpool - 3,000 Man City - 3,000 Man Utd - 3,000 Newcastle - 3,000 Southampton - 3,000 Stoke - 2,774 Swansea - 2,090 Spurs - 3,000 Watford - 2,150 West Brom - 2,685 West Ham - 3,000 Brighton and Newcastle have been based on the fact we got 3,200 for Newcastle this season and Brighton can hold more than 3,000 behind the goal whether they give that much not sure. That's crazy. Surely some of those stadiums can't sell out. West Ham? Spurs definitely not. I didn't get a season ticket this year, so am buggered for away trips by the look of it. Was hoping to do Palace and West Ham for starters, but not have to sit with my Southern mates supporting the opposition. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 17:59:11 GMT 1
been mentioned a priority scheme for most of tickets with some in a ballot scheme - not sure how this would work - if say 500 were held back for a ballot of season ticket holders then the club would need to check which of the 17500 season ticket holders were actually interested in a ticket for that particular game - they would not put all season ticket holders in the ballot as some would not want a ticket anyway You would have to apply for the ballot. Probs they would open up a short window where you flag your desire for a ticket for a specific game, then they'd just randomly draw the folk from that. Possibly applying for the ballot would incur a nominal non refundable fee so that people wouldnt just apply for every ballot knowing they could sell any won tickets on anyway. |
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Post by terrier17 on Jun 15, 2017 18:38:13 GMT 1
Rubbish. All sorts of reasons why this happens mainly cos people have friends Personally I buy both my kids a ticket as well If you've got priority you can use your details I accept some circumstances such as buying them for kids etc,but i stand by what i said,some(not all)just cant be arsed! Or work... |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 15, 2017 21:13:47 GMT 1
Everyone join the foundation.. then its fastest fingers on the internet when the tickets go on sale..been a member since the day it started, dont mind competing with new members for the tickets.
nobody gets badly done to.. its luck of the draw.. might break the website a few times though..
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Post by shatterrier on Jun 15, 2017 21:15:03 GMT 1
At 56 years old and hoping but never expecting to see Town in the top tier beyond the days that I can't remember, the dream fixture for me has always been Anfield.
I'd be more than willing to buy at 20x face value or duel someone at dawn for a chance of a ticket for that one and suspect I may have to.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 15, 2017 21:19:49 GMT 1
I've been getting away tickets all my life ... getting away tickets ...
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Post by sapphireblue on Jun 15, 2017 21:29:23 GMT 1
I will try to get a ticket for as many away games as I can get to. If I fail to get a ticket for any particular game I shall be disappointed but I shan't make a fuss because I am a grown up.
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? why is it so hard for people to understand this fact... people pay money in wether they go to a particular away game or not..
