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Post by Malvern Tom (WAHLS) on Aug 10, 2017 18:25:46 GMT 1
Banning him two days before the club's return to the top division. You have taken it away from him. I was thinking the very same thing. It's cruel and unnecessary (in my opinion)....it seems that this board is a very big part of his actual life....he should be given a pardon before the weekend.
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Post by gpaul19781 on Aug 10, 2017 18:26:04 GMT 1
Sorry, but I don't understand the reference/insinuation here. I'm probably being thick, but please do explain ... I think it's do with Nazi's starting on Waccoe, Austin, if true whose books do you think would be first for the bonfire?
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Post by DATM Travel Agent on Aug 10, 2017 18:28:55 GMT 1
This message board is a worse place without nick, I'm sure the majority think that. To all those who don't agree, stop taking yourselves so seriously. Everyone is different and we live in a democratic society not North Korea! Talk about blowing things out of proportion! I know you're probably exaggerating but comparing the moderation of this forum to life in the most censored, insular nation on the planet is laughable.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 10, 2017 18:30:22 GMT 1
Sorry, but I don't understand the reference/insinuation here. I'm probably being thick, but please do explain ...
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 10, 2017 18:30:34 GMT 1
I would suggest that contact is made with him and a truce declared.
This weekend should be the single most important one of our footballing lives, taking away the opportunity to share that with his fellow football fans is very harsh.
Just thinking about it, he is a grown man and is constantly having people tell him he should act a different way. Maybe if it was articulated better rather than trying to force an adult to adhere to other people's views you might see a change in him.
Try it, it might work!
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Post by gnomically on Aug 10, 2017 18:31:44 GMT 1
Understand the decision, I have not been defending Nick as much as trying to get people to realize that by attacking him at every opportunity they are derailing the threads and making the forum pretty much useless. Instead they should be blocking him if they dislike him so much and ignoring his threads. I have been spending less and less time on here because the threads are no longer discussing topics but just arguing about Nick. I will refrain from getting involved in any more discussion on any threads about this but would encourage admins to start taking action against these people when Nick comes back and inevitably comes under attack from every direction, particularly when there is no reason. I would also encourage more consistency on how people are treated. There have been several vague thread titles of late that were not started by Nick, and even a Jay Z thread. I find vague thread titles more annoying than threads that I am not interested in but are titled appropriately. At least a properly titled thread allows me to make the decision on whether to look at it or not. I hope these people are being addressed too. I am sure the board is busier than it used to be creating more work for the admins but it is very important that rules are applied consistently regardless of who breaches them. I don't understand how they can ignore him when he gets given a sub-board, yet can't do that when he does post on the main board. I find him harmless and easy to by pass any of his posts without getting wind up about it. so I feel the moaners of Nick has got him banned with mob rule and they couldn't resist having a dig at him and not being unable to ignore or ban him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 18:32:21 GMT 1
Simple solution in my eyes
Stop acting like a twat and you won't get banned
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Post by ozterrier on Aug 10, 2017 18:34:53 GMT 1
He's a pain in the arse but if threads didn't need moderating there wouldn't be moderators. He doesn't insult or belittle anyone which in my opinion DOES happen on here, is a far worse crime and often goes unpunished. He only antagonises people who quite frankly should be adult enough to let it go and not take life so seriously. It's a message board and seeing some of the folk on here getting their knickers in a twist over forum posts is nothing short of pathetic. If he needs to take a look at himself I think a fair few on here do also. There's some good points in there. The rules that were formulated a little while back were actually done a lot with Nick in mind. Things like daft thread titles, deliberate misspelling etc, introduced with the intention that it might encourage him to stop doing the things which wind people up so much. It didn't work though, and in hindsight it may have been a mistake (although done with the best intentions) and possibly created an environment where someone would report a Nick post just about every day. Of course we wouldn't act on most of these things because, as you point out being aggressive or insulting to someone is a far worse crime than using 'fred' instead of 'thread'. We would however keep a 'running tally' and create some dialogue with him (and eventually take more drastic action as seen today). That then led to complaints about uneven treatment of different posters etc, however that's the way we've had to do it. If we gave him for warning for every 'minor' infraction by the letter of the law, he'd be banned more than he's not. Ultimately though, someone's always going to be upset with whatever decision is made on here. If we don't 'manage' Nick then it upsets a lot of people and if we do something about it, it upsets some other people. As I said in my earlier post though, people should really use the 'block' button with Nick when he's winding them up. He doesn't really bother me too much (beyond a head shake and an eye roll), but some can't help but to have a go at him.
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Post by Malvern Tom (WAHLS) on Aug 10, 2017 18:35:16 GMT 1
I like Nick....he dosn't swear or call people tw@ts.
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 10, 2017 18:36:02 GMT 1
Simple solution in my eyes Stop acting like a twat and you won't get banned Or grow up, take the high road and ignore him and he won't get banned? For every ying there is a yang
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Aug 10, 2017 18:38:47 GMT 1
I like Nick....he dosn't swear or call people tw@ts. Me too. He posts a lot of things I would have missed otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 18:39:03 GMT 1
Simple solution in my eyes Stop acting like a twat and you won't get banned Or grow up, take the high road and ignore him and he won't get banned? For every ying there is a yang Stop the ying and there is no yang. No one to blame here but Nick
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 18:40:19 GMT 1
Happened at last.
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 10, 2017 18:40:45 GMT 1
He's a pain in the arse but if threads didn't need moderating there wouldn't be moderators. He doesn't insult or belittle anyone which in my opinion DOES happen on here, is a far worse crime and often goes unpunished. He only antagonises people who quite frankly should be adult enough to let it go and not take life so seriously. It's a message board and seeing some of the folk on here getting their knickers in a twist over forum posts is nothing short of pathetic. If he needs to take a look at himself I think a fair few on here do also. There's some good points in there. The rules that were formulated a little while back were actually done a lot with Nick in mind. Things like daft thread titles, deliberate misspelling etc, introduced with the intention that it might encourage him to stop doing the things which wind people up so much. It didn't work though, and in hindsight it may have been a mistake (although done with the best intentions) and possibly created an environment where someone would report a Nick post just about every day. Of course we wouldn't act on most of these things because, as you point out being aggressive or insulting to someone is a far worse crime than using 'fred' instead of 'thread'. We would however keep a 'running tally' and create some dialogue with him (and eventually take more drastic action as seen today). That then led to complaints about uneven treatment of different posters etc, however that's the way we've had to do it. If we gave him for warning for every 'minor' infraction by the letter of the law, he'd be banned more than he's not. Ultimately though, someone's always going to be upset with whatever decision is made on here. If we don't 'manage' Nick then it upsets a lot of people and if we do something about it, it upsets some other people. As I said in my earlier post though, people should really use the 'block' button with Nick when he's winding them up. He doesn't really bother me too much (beyond a head shake and an eye roll), but some can't help but to have a go at him. Thanks for taking the time to reply and for the record I do the same, roll my eyes and bypass it. I personally think banning him will solve nothing.
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Post by El Mel on Aug 10, 2017 18:42:13 GMT 1
The bullies win.
Forum's a shambles.
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Post by ozterrier on Aug 10, 2017 18:44:08 GMT 1
Banning him two days before the club's return to the top division. You have taken it away from him. I was thinking the very same thing. It's cruel and unnecessary (in my opinion)....it seems that this board is a very big part of his actual life....he should be given a pardon before the weekend. Funnily enough, his ban (the one last week, not this one) happened when it did precisely because we wanted him to be back in time for the season to start. Yet here we are again. He doesn't help himself.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 18:44:14 GMT 1
Pathetic. It's a forum, not a fucking university debating society.
Folk yank his chain and set out to get him. A lifelong fan and you chuck him off over the most exciting week of the past 45 years.
No wonder this site has turned into an absolute train crash since Geoff hung up his mouse.
I'm done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 18:47:21 GMT 1
Pathetic. It's a forum, not a fucking university debating society. Folk yank his chain and set out to get him. A lifelong fan and you chuck him off over the most exciting week of the past 45 years. No wonder this site has turned into an absolute train crash since Geoff hung up his mouse. I'm done. Geoff would have had no time for a blatant troll either
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 18:51:49 GMT 1
I would suggest that contact is made with him and a truce declared. This weekend should be the single most important one of our footballing lives, taking away the opportunity to share that with his fellow football fans is very harsh. Just thinking about it, he is a grown man and is constantly having people tell him he should act a different way. Maybe if it was articulated better rather than trying to force an adult to adhere to other people's views you might see a change in him. Try it, it might work! You're making the mistake of thinking that Nick isn't aware of what he's doing, he's fully aware and taking the piss. For the record i'm not attacking him, nor do I feel sorry for him. It's all an act.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 18:52:25 GMT 1
Pathetic. It's a forum, not a fucking university debating society. Folk yank his chain and set out to get him. A lifelong fan and you chuck him off over the most exciting week of the past 45 years. No wonder this site has turned into an absolute train crash since Geoff hung up his mouse. I'm done. Geoff would have had no time for a blatant troll either He wouldn't have stood for the racist filth, bullying and baiting that goes on. Whether or not he'd have picked out a single poster who doesn't swear, call others names or act disrespectful to everyone else is unknown. But well done to those involved for making the board less about Town and stirring up more infighting. Great job.
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Post by El Mel on Aug 10, 2017 18:53:34 GMT 1
It is with much discussion and regret that we have banned Nick for two weeks, for repeated breach of the rules over the past two weeks since his last ban. We do not ban people lightly, and we generally try and exhaust all avenues available to us before doing so. One example is the Examiner sub-board - Nick was posting hourly Examiner articles, and the intention was to give him a space where he could scream into the abyss with nobody to hear him, and he would eventually get bored. It worked for a time, but it is clear that it has run its course, and not had the desired effect long-term. We have, therefore, been left with no option on this occasion but to issue a ban. We also generally prefer to keep these decisions private, as we do not like to air our dirty laundry in public. However, on this occasion there are some points that we think it would be useful to make to the board as a whole. Nick has been banned, mainly, for repeatedly doing three things: (1) starting new threads when what is posted could have been posted on an existing thread (i.e. one that is on page 1 of the board), (2) unnecessarily bumping threads that had run their life, for no discernible purpose, and (3) incomprehensible thread titles. He has been warned about this on a number of occasions, and has previously been banned for the same thing. We generally turn a blind eye when posters do the above, but when they do it multiple times we have no option but to intervene. However, what he has not been banned for is generally posting links. As long as a link is posted on a topic not covered by a thread already on page 1 of the board, then there ought to be no issue. Most threads are started in one of two ways: (1) "these are my views, let's discuss" and/or (2) "these are someone else's views, let's discuss". External links fall into the second category, and are a perfectly legitimate way to start a thread, irrespective of who posts them. If the link was posted by somebody other than Nick, it would either be discussed, or it would not. In any event, it would fall off page 1 when it had run its course. If it was not something people were interested in discussing, or it was something that had been discussed in the past, it would generally be ignored and fall off page 1 within the day. With Nick, however, sarcastic comments lead to arguments, which lead to the board polarised on the basis of either being pro or anti Nick. It is petty, it is pointless, and it is counter-productive, because the one thing it prevents the thread from doing is dropping off page 1, which is presumably what those who are gunning for Nick would want. In addition to that, an argument about Nick, whether you are pro-Nick or anti-Nick, is off-topic, and derails a thread. This is, in itself, against the forum rules. I repeat, whether you are rushing to Nick's defence or rushing to put the dagger in, it is a breach of the forum rules. As Admin, we use our discretion to decide whether or not to pull people up for this. Because so many people pile into Nick's threads, we have been unable to take action that we may otherwise have taken, and if we were to warn or ban everyone involved (particularly the repeat "offenders") then we would never get chance to live our lives away from the computer (and the club's XXXL shirt sales would continue to rise). Nick may or may not change his posting style when he returns from his holiday. If he heeds our advice then it will, and we can all live happily ever after. If he does not, however, then the appropriate way to deal with his posting, if you do not like it, is (1) report the post to us, and (2) ignore it. If his threads are ignored, then they will drop off page 1 and the problem is solved. If he bumps them unnecessarily, then he is committing the same offence that he has been banned for, and we will deal with it as we deem appropriate. However, consider this as fair warning. If people decide to take matters into their own hands and start, or continue, arguments about Nick's (or any other person's) posting style, when the appropriate course is to report or ignore the thread, then we will also take whatever action we deem appropriate against those posters, for their respective breaches of the forum rules. Any questions, please PM me. Give it 24 hours. Ban everybody that has 'liked' this original post on the thread. Let Nick back on. You won't have any issues. Easy.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Aug 10, 2017 18:54:23 GMT 1
Pathetic. It's a forum, not a fucking university debating society. Folk yank his chain and set out to get him. A lifelong fan and you chuck him off over the most exciting week of the past 45 years. No wonder this site has turned into an absolute train crash since Geoff hung up his mouse. I'm done. Come back when Nick's ban is lifted, and I'll do the same.
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Post by chinaski on Aug 10, 2017 18:54:56 GMT 1
It's pathetic some sad acts take this board so seriously that they genuinely get annoyed by Nick...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 18:56:17 GMT 1
'Too many people bully Nick so to make things easier for us we've banned him'
It's fucking shameful.
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Post by mids on Aug 10, 2017 19:11:38 GMT 1
Nick hasn't been bullied. His constant wind-up style has been criticised, and rightly so. Having said that he shouldn't have been banned. When he's back he'll continue acting innocent but acting like a tool over and over again unfortunately
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 19:21:43 GMT 1
No sympathy, the guy is a clown!
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Post by Terry Jacko on Aug 10, 2017 19:23:07 GMT 1
The relentless dedication he has to his online persona is both bizarre and amazing ha
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Aug 10, 2017 19:27:07 GMT 1
Everyone is different and we live in a democratic society not North Korea! Perhaps Nick is really Kim Jong-un, I mean have you ever seen both Nick and Kim Jong-un together. Democracy comes with responsibilities, obviously Anarchists would disagree.
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Post by mightytj on Aug 10, 2017 19:27:28 GMT 1
Whether or not you agree with the forum rules or not, it doesn't matter, if you break them there are going to be consequences. Nick has continually poked at Admins and is fully in control of his behaviour. I am not arsed whether or not he frequents the board, he's an irritant but nothing more. I am extremely grateful to the admins for moderating this forum, and those suggesting it's the wrong decision are free to apply to do the job, dedicating their free time to the board. We all have a choice and if you don't like DATM, move on (again), spit your dummy out and we will see you soon. Also the reference regarding bullying on a discussion forum - what a pile of shite!!
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Post by Carl2291 on Aug 10, 2017 19:27:28 GMT 1
Imagine getting another Town fan banned just before our return to the top flight because you're upset he posts a lot of news.
Pathetic. Children. Bullies.
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