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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Dec 15, 2018 22:38:03 GMT 1
I thought Bacuna did OK today. Ran out of steam towards the end but didn't look out of place in our midfield. fair play to him.
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Post by v8bart on Dec 15, 2018 22:38:14 GMT 1
Certainly thought it was a solid first start for the lad. Showed some good ability, yes a little too casual at times but give him a break, takes time to build up the confidence and experience. Certainly not our weak point today.
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Post by derekoconnor on Dec 15, 2018 22:42:48 GMT 1
If we’re pinning how survival hopes on him ffs
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 22:45:29 GMT 1
for T a first full prem debut the lad did well and wasn't frightened of trying to switch and at times open up the game.The difference is ive been involved with the pro game and you havnt and where you are entitled to a view its really lacking in footballknowledge of the pro game. I’ve been involved in the pro game LOL what a self righteous comment. All opinions on datm are equal. He played a couple of nice passes but truth is Wagner got formation wrong & we never exploited kenedy who is never a wing back no it isn't its a fact and as you say all comments are peoples opinions but ill bow down to your superior tactical knowledge?.you must be joking
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Post by sapphireblue on Dec 15, 2018 22:50:59 GMT 1
If we’re pinning how survival hopes on him ffs Nobody is ffs. But a reasonable starting debut by a very young player is being denegraded by the usual half wits on here. I suspect some think he'll be playing for Bury in five years time.
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Post by space hardware on Dec 15, 2018 22:54:03 GMT 1
I thought he was decent, looked to pick a forward pass and actually drilled the ball whilst doing it, instead of floating it.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 15, 2018 23:02:26 GMT 1
he was better than most in a going forward sense.. unfortunately I cant expand on that as there was little to expand with..
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Post by JRx on Dec 15, 2018 23:25:31 GMT 1
He was one of our best players and I thought he did more than billing today. A lot of our dangerous attacks that ended with balls across the box with depoitre not going for were due to him playing balls through our others don't usually attempt. His 1 2s with Pritchard were quality too.
He obviously tired during the game but anyone saying he was poor probably shouldn't be watching football. Depoitre on the other hand looks a shadow of the player last year. If we had a striker who attacked the ball on the pitch today we'd have had a few goals in the first half.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 15, 2018 23:33:33 GMT 1
miles off prem
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 1:27:38 GMT 1
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Post by El Mel on Dec 16, 2018 2:05:55 GMT 1
Paraphrasing,
"He looked OK in a team that were abysmal"
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Post by dugnet on Dec 16, 2018 2:11:57 GMT 1
Paraphrasing, "He looked OK in a team that were abysmal" Abysmal???
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Post by brodie81 on Dec 16, 2018 2:22:23 GMT 1
It was his first start today.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Dec 16, 2018 2:50:56 GMT 1
If we’re pinning how survival hopes on him ffs Well we’re not are we ffs!
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Post by ritchie on Dec 16, 2018 3:37:34 GMT 1
Fuck me.. he looks a decent player to me. if you judge him fairly taking into account the circumstances. Young kid thrown into the most competitive league in the world in the centre of the park..what are people hoping for? ? 2 top german teams, psv and a top italian side were trying to sign him when we got him Pinning our hopes on him? do you mean playing him in an injury crisis? derekoconnor you're a fucking dreadful poster. matched only by that other complete half-wit that ruins this board with you, nickhudd This thread is a perfect example as to why i (and others) tend not to read this forum much
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Post by mids on Dec 16, 2018 8:24:34 GMT 1
Paraphrasing, "He looked OK in a team that were abysmal" We weren't abysmal. I thought we played well yesterday up to their penalty area and then we were in the main clueless...or the crosses were underhit or chipped...or Depoitre was not attacking the goal. Lossl had little to do. Defence played well. Midfield 3 all played well and stroked the ball around well. However we could never score a goal like the one Newcastle did. Goalie to goal inside 10 seconds. Crisp fast incisive passing.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Dec 16, 2018 8:38:40 GMT 1
Miles better than i was expecting.
Can take a better set piece than Mooy. Will serves us very well in the championship.
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Post by El Mel on Dec 16, 2018 8:43:11 GMT 1
Paraphrasing, "He looked OK in a team that were abysmal" We weren't abysmal. I thought we played well yesterday up to their penalty area and then we were in the main clueless...or the crosses were underhit or chipped...or Deloitte was not attacking the goal. Lossl had little to do. Defence played well. Midfield 3 all played well and stroked the ball around well. However we could never score a goal like the one Newcastle did. Goalie to goal inside 10 seconds. Crisp fast incisive passing. I only saw the 2nd half mate, was working until 4, but the comments on the radio seemed positive enough in the first 45. I thought we were poor in the 2nd half though, absolutely no goal threat - and their keeper was a spectator. Last week at Arsenal, I thought we played well, and given the quality of opposition I can take the fact that we probably aren't going to score and have to play in a manner that restricts the opposition. Yesterday though, we're at home against a poor side and we offer nothing, and it has been the same (with exceptions granted) for a long long time. Wagner is tactically weak in the attacking third, and that's enhanced by a lack of quality players (well a lack of players actually) who he can call on.
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Dec 16, 2018 8:51:50 GMT 1
I thought he had a good game today for a young player making his debut at home. Some nice, neat passes and some strong tackles when needed. No doubt he will get better and certainly Mooy would have done no better. But the elephant in the room is the lack of a cutting edge. If we can get a decent finisher we are going to be a different team in the second half of the season.
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Post by El Mel on Dec 16, 2018 8:55:38 GMT 1
I thought he had a good game today for a young player making his debut at home. Some nice, neat passes and some strong tackles when needed. No doubt he will get better and certainly Mooy would have done no better. But the elephant in the room is the lack of a cutting edge. If we can get a decent finisher we are going to be a different team in the second half of the season. Are we though. As I've said, I missed the first half, but in that 2nd half there was nothing to finish. It's the manner in which we try and score goals that's the problem, not just the players on the pitch. Our whole game plan relies on scoring from set pieces, and that will not yield us enough goals to survive.
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Post by Mav on Dec 16, 2018 9:45:48 GMT 1
Agree with Mids on this. We were OK today. Final third again. It all stops about 25 yards out as there is only LDP in there and most of the time he not in there. We need a fox in the box type player. Shearer summer us up we’ll on MOTD. Having said that as per last season we’re in the mini bottom 6 league and I reckon there are 3 teams who are worse than us .... just ....and that we ‘ could’ be OK. No great accolade to be just OK but that’s the way it will be if we want to stay in this league. Roll on January.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 10:02:41 GMT 1
I thought he had a good game today for a young player making his debut at home. Some nice, neat passes and some strong tackles when needed. No doubt he will get better and certainly Mooy would have done no better. But the elephant in the room is the lack of a cutting edge. If we can get a decent finisher we are going to be a different team in the second half of the season. Are we though. As I've said, I missed the first half, but in that 2nd half there was nothing to finish. It's the manner in which we try and score goals that's the problem, not just the players on the pitch. Our whole game plan relies on scoring from set pieces, and that will not yield us enough goals to survive. We’d lost our heart in the second half due to a gutless performance in the final third. My head had me in positions to score a first half hat trick yesterday. Shame I’m 48 as I’d be offering my services, but the reading of the game and the desire up front was almost totally absent...I did notice a few occasions where other players acknowledged their frustration at it / him too.
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Post by nicovaesen on Dec 16, 2018 10:14:40 GMT 1
Are we though. As I've said, I missed the first half, but in that 2nd half there was nothing to finish. It's the manner in which we try and score goals that's the problem, not just the players on the pitch. Our whole game plan relies on scoring from set pieces, and that will not yield us enough goals to survive. We’d lost our heart in the second half due to a gutless performance in the final third. My head had me in positions to score a first half hat trick yesterday. Shame I’m 48 as I’d be offering my services, but the reading of the game and the desire up front was almost totally absent...I did notice a few occasions where other players acknowledged their frustration at it / him too. Schindler?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 16, 2018 10:19:21 GMT 1
He may have had a goal when he drove past 3 players in to the area only for Lowe to stupidly take it off him when he was offside
You don't see many town players driving past players in to the box like that
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Post by htafctaunton on Dec 16, 2018 10:29:43 GMT 1
Shows how subjective football is... i thought he was terrible on the whole, with the odd glint of class. ...what a shame we don't have a "FU*KIN' BOLLOX" button....
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Dec 16, 2018 10:36:43 GMT 1
Decent debut - showed some good and bad things
Looks to have some skill though so if he learns and develops he could become a solid player
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 15:06:53 GMT 1
Everyone is free to name any better debuts by a 21 year old, in the Premier League, for a struggling side whilst filling the boots on an injured talisman.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Dec 16, 2018 15:15:36 GMT 1
Everyone is free to name any better debuts by a 19 year old, in the Premier League, for a struggling side whilst filling the boots on an injured talisman. Add a couple of years to that, but still a fair point.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Dec 16, 2018 15:17:37 GMT 1
Everyone is free to name any better debuts by a 19 year old, in the Premier League, for a struggling side whilst filling the boots on an injured talisman. Bacuna played extremely well for his first start, he will serve us well if Wagner allows him game time. Who’s the injured “talisman”? Mounie? 😂
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 15:19:54 GMT 1
Everyone is free to name any better debuts by a 19 year old, in the Premier League, for a struggling side whilst filling the boots on an injured talisman. Add a couple of years to that, but still a fair point. Thanks, not sure why I thought he was 19.
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