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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 29, 2018 23:42:41 GMT 1
Based on last weekend you may have a point........but to say ever is a bit harsh i think. Thought burnley were poor against us at their place a few weeks ago but we couldnt take our chances and passed up 2 points. Sadly at the moment we are 2/3 players short of staying up.....and they are first choice not squad men. Cardiff probably the same. Still plenty to play for though - fulham are poor, west ham far from great and have injuries and suspensions looming, newcastle are poor and soton not much if any better. Its up to us though - you dont often get massive gifts at this level and we have to assume we wont get any either from mistakes or refs. Dont you think its a shame that 10 games in only 3 can win it and only 6 can go down? The European super league will come...if only for competitions sake. Cardiff were BAD and Burnley no better. We battered both and we are poodle. The lack of competition in the PL era. Leic C the one massive anomaly, it's the reason why they have to work harder on the marketing as opposed to letting the competition out on the pitch do the talking. I still hope we pull out of it and get another season or two, but think a continual struggle at this level will see the supporter base flatline or even drop off... |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Oct 29, 2018 23:44:59 GMT 1
Dont you think its a shame that 10 games in only 3 can win it and only 6 can go down? The European super league will come...if only for competitions sake. Cardiff were BAD and Burnley no better. We battered both and we are poodle. The lack of competition in the PL era. Leic C the one massive anomaly, it's the reason why they have to work harder on the marketing as opposed to letting the competition out on the pitch do the talking. I still hope we pull out of it and get another season or two, but think a continual struggle at this level will see the supporter base flatline or even drop off... Me too. Its a concern but not an income concern. I would watch them in the Conference and enjoy it almost as much. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 0:27:52 GMT 1
Dont you think its a shame that 10 games in only 3 can win it and only 6 can go down? The European super league will come...if only for competitions sake. Cardiff were BAD and Burnley no better. We battered both and we are poodle. The super league is inevitable.....sadly. If it comes though will be v interesting to see how it works and then the impact on the international game. The only thing stopping it is the champs league which is a huge cash cow for the elite and tough to replace as more move onto stream access and not subscriptions, albeit clearly digital season tickets are the way forward. A European Super League isn't inevitable, the backlash it would cause from tens of millions of fans who aren't allied to each country's participants would be massive. Imagine United, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal cutting their domestic ties for a Super League and the tv companies asking the fans of the clubs left in a weakened domestic league to cough up big tv subscriptions to watch the deserters play in their new league. It'd be like the next door neighbour you can't stand shitting on your front room carpet and then demanding that you wipe their arse. I for one won't be reaching for the Andrex when the turd hits the shagpile |
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 30, 2018 19:37:20 GMT 1
Me too. Its a concern but not an income concern. I would watch them in the Conference and enjoy it almost as much. Do you really mean that Oti? Sometimes you're so negative I struggle to see what enjoyment you get out of following Town at all. This is the best it has been in forty odd years and still you moan..... PS If we were in the conference, I probably have to accept that I'd still be there. .....but for a non promotion season, I wouldn't be enjoying it a fraction as much as I'm enjoying a possible (no towels being thrown in, in East Leake) relegation season in the PL. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 30, 2018 19:42:11 GMT 1
The super league is inevitable.....sadly. If it comes though will be v interesting to see how it works and then the impact on the international game. The only thing stopping it is the champs league which is a huge cash cow for the elite and tough to replace as more move onto stream access and not subscriptions, albeit clearly digital season tickets are the way forward. A European Super League isn't inevitable, the backlash it would cause from tens of millions of fans who aren't allied to each country's participants would be massive. Imagine United, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal cutting their domestic ties for a Super League and the tv companies asking the fans of the clubs left in a weakened domestic league to cough up big tv subscriptions to watch the deserters play in their new league. It'd be like the next door neighbour you can't stand shitting on your front room carpet and then demanding that you wipe their arse. I for one won't be reaching for the Andrex when the turd hits the shagpile Good post. I think you're right. When it comes to the crunch the top 6 need the other 86 much more than the other way around. European football is a nice "cherry on the top" for them but as their "bread & butter"? I think plastic Manchester United fans would rather watch then beating Huddersfield near the top of the PL rather than losing to PSG in a mid table ESL fixture. |
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Post by The-Crab on Oct 31, 2018 1:11:41 GMT 1
I honestly don't think one fan of the top 6 would want a super league, it will never happen
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Oct 31, 2018 19:55:10 GMT 1
Me too. Its a concern but not an income concern. I would watch them in the Conference and enjoy it almost as much. Do you really mean that Oti? Sometimes you're so negative I struggle to see what enjoyment you get out of following Town at all. This is the best it has been in forty odd years and still you moan..... PS If we were in the conference, I probably have to accept that I'd still be there. .....but for a non promotion season, I wouldn't be enjoying it a fraction as much as I'm enjoying a possible (no towels being thrown in, in East Leake) relegation season in the PL. Yes, the club go on....i enjoyed 79-80 more than last season...thats a fact. I dont need to see Arsenals players to have a good time. Thats why down the years i have regularly watched Stalybridge, Halmstad, Wisla Krakow and St Mirren. When i am in India over winter i go and watch Dempo and Salgoacar. Been to over 200 England games...how is that for punishment? Wound it all down now...its just Town. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Oct 31, 2018 20:04:11 GMT 1
I honestly don't think one fan of the top 6 would want a super league, it will never happen Since when was it a matter for fans? Clubs change shirt colour, move city! Only 5% of income in the Prem is ticket sales. Empty stadium and double TV income...easy choice for the club. Never underestimate greed. |
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Post by shawsie on Oct 31, 2018 22:19:40 GMT 1
The super league is inevitable.....sadly. If it comes though will be v interesting to see how it works and then the impact on the international game. The only thing stopping it is the champs league which is a huge cash cow for the elite and tough to replace as more move onto stream access and not subscriptions, albeit clearly digital season tickets are the way forward. A European Super League isn't inevitable, the backlash it would cause from tens of millions of fans who aren't allied to each country's participants would be massive. Imagine United, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal cutting their domestic ties for a Super League and the tv companies asking the fans of the clubs left in a weakened domestic league to cough up big tv subscriptions to watch the deserters play in their new league. It'd be like the next door neighbour you can't stand shitting on your front room carpet and then demanding that you wipe their arse. I for one won't be reaching for the Andrex when the turd hits the shagpile I understand your point....but the tv companies won't be the broadcasters here and the streaming operators won't care two hoots about UK football fans when millions purchase digital tickets overseas. Whether there is enough to replace the champions league money for the big 6 I'm not sure right now but eventually there will...... the epl is now following Europe with the same clubs winning everything only we have 5 or 6 competing and most countries have 3 max. It's inevitable that something will happen surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 22:57:57 GMT 1
A European Super League isn't inevitable, the backlash it would cause from tens of millions of fans who aren't allied to each country's participants would be massive. Imagine United, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal cutting their domestic ties for a Super League and the tv companies asking the fans of the clubs left in a weakened domestic league to cough up big tv subscriptions to watch the deserters play in their new league. It'd be like the next door neighbour you can't stand shitting on your front room carpet and then demanding that you wipe their arse. I for one won't be reaching for the Andrex when the turd hits the shagpile I understand your point....but the tv companies won't be the broadcasters here and the streaming operators won't care two hoots about UK football fans when millions purchase digital tickets overseas. Whether there is enough to replace the champions league money for the big 6 I'm not sure right now but eventually there will...... the epl is now following Europe with the same clubs winning everything only we have 5 or 6 competing and most countries have 3 max. It's inevitable that something will happen surely? It doesn't matter which country you are talking about the domestic fans not allied to the teams who've left won't subsidise it. Think of the uproar caused when Man U pulled out of the FA Cup years ago and times that by 1000. The other side of it is the teams who would be considered big enough to join are used to winning thngs on a regular basis. Loads suddenly become just another mid table club in a European League likely to be dominated by 4 or 5 clubs. It's not happening. |
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Post by The-Crab on Nov 2, 2018 0:25:38 GMT 1
I honestly don't think one fan of the top 6 would want a super league, it will never happen Since when was it a matter for fans? Clubs change shirt colour, move city! Only 5% of income in the Prem is ticket sales. Empty stadium and double TV income...easy choice for the club. Never underestimate greed. Be good for F.C Manchester Teams would be playing in half-empty stadiums once the novelty wore off, which would be great for the lower league teams around them. TV companies certainly wouldn't pay more for that than they do for the premier league. Been talk of it for years and not a sniff, not happening. |
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Post by impact on Nov 2, 2018 0:34:50 GMT 1
Since when was it a matter for fans? Clubs change shirt colour, move city! Only 5% of income in the Prem is ticket sales. Empty stadium and double TV income...easy choice for the club. Never underestimate greed. Be good for F.C Manchester Teams would be playing in half-empty stadiums once the novelty wore off, which would be great for the lower league teams around them. TV companies certainly wouldn't pay more for that than they do for the premier league. Been talk of it for years and not a sniff, not happening. So you're saying Man Utd would fill their stadium against Huddersfield but not Real Madrid because the novelty had worn off? I don't quite get the logic. |
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Post by The-Crab on Nov 3, 2018 11:55:21 GMT 1
Be good for F.C Manchester Teams would be playing in half-empty stadiums once the novelty wore off, which would be great for the lower league teams around them. TV companies certainly wouldn't pay more for that than they do for the premier league. Been talk of it for years and not a sniff, not happening. So you're saying Man Utd would fill their stadium against Huddersfield but not Real Madrid because the novelty had worn off? I don't quite get the logic. Not just talking about United, they probably have the fan base to survive but if teams like Arsenal were chosen they can't even fill their stadium at the minute. Also, fans who would soon get bored/skint with travelling. Away crowds would be near non existent creating a crap atmosphere. Playing Real Madrid in a one-off champion league game builds excitement, playing these teams kind of teams week in and week out would soon get v boring. If you asked a United fan 12 months down the line if they would rather play against Liverpool this week or PSG, I am pretty sure what the answer would be. In fact, right from the get-go. Firstly there is no real rivalry, you aren't going to get a Man Utd v Liverpool atmosphere, a spurs v arsenal, a Real v Barca, teams that have years of history and rivalry is what gets people excited, not playing teams you have no real care for. As a fan I could not think of anything that would bore me more and I would turn to a different local team than be part of it. Never going to happn. |
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Post by scoffsablue on Nov 3, 2018 13:01:54 GMT 1
Anyone got any decent tips for the coming season for any league? Ive gone for 3 x singles...3 x doubles and a treble on WBA, Burton Albion and Lincoln City to win their respective divisions...as a covering bet I've also thrown Sunderland at 3/1 in to the same instead of Burton...Prices WBA 8/1...Burton Albion 25/1...and Lincoln City 8/1...pays 2106/1 and with Sunderland in pays 324/1  Bet still rolling...here's hoping  |
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Post by Bilo the Bantam on Nov 3, 2018 13:27:29 GMT 1
Championship relegation treble: Rotherham, Ipswich and Reading. £5 returns £505. Good call, but probably all three unlikely. Not checked the odds but Bolton and Wigan must be up there with the favourites to go down ... November and all three in bottom four. Would have taken that. |
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Post by workshyfop on Nov 3, 2018 14:37:38 GMT 1
Good call, but probably all three unlikely. Not checked the odds but Bolton and Wigan must be up there with the favourites to go down ... November and all three in bottom four. Would have taken that. Great punting Bilo! So far anyway. I still think Bolton will struggle. Some of the teams that went up are doing surprisingly well. Blackburn are flying and Wigan mid-table with an easy home game tomorrow  |
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on May 26, 2019 18:01:34 GMT 1
Aug 1, 2018 at 11:42pm Chumlee said:
I can't see a safer bet this season than Sunderland getting promotion. That really surprises me . The expectation levels will be huge . They will be everybodys Cup final . All their good players are either gone or desperate to get out . They have a rookie Scots manager who has signed a number of Scots players and lower league journeymen . And there has been a toxic atmosphere for ages . Oh and now they have David Brent as a chairman . Time will tell I suppose Yes but League One is very weak this season. Let's pick this up again 6 weeks into the season and one of us will no doubt have egg all over his face. Well Chips, it looks like I'm the one with egg all over my face! |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 26, 2019 18:15:02 GMT 1
Aug 1, 2018 at 11:42pm Chumlee said: I can't see a safer bet this season than Sunderland getting promotion. Yes but League One is very weak this season. Let's pick this up again 6 weeks into the season and one of us will no doubt have egg all over his face. Well Chips, it looks like I'm the one with egg all over my face! No mate I don't think so . Props to you for digging it up .. They had a pretty good season all in all I reckon . When a team gets into a negative spiral with characters who buckle it can be difficult to reverse . As we are going to find out next season |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 19:25:32 GMT 1
You can sell Sheffield United's points at 65.5. They only got 69 last year with the incredible first half of the season they had. Wouldn't be surprised if they ended up in the low 50's and realistically how many could they get? aged right well this one |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 19:27:47 GMT 1
Lay Town at 6/5...2.2. Then when they hit 9/5....2.8 you can greenout/cash out. If they win either of the first two games you have made 50%. Lose the first two and the odds will be the same virtually. At some point they will trade at 9/5 Liverpool for the Prem 4/1 Bournemouth bottom 25/1...Hills. Burnley relegated 4/1 Brum relegated 7/1 Wolves relegated 9/1 Bournemouth relegated 9/2 Salford 21/10 Lay L**ds not to be promoted 7/2 Accrington top half 7/2 Town above Bournemouth 2/1 Super Betting Man strikes again......some of them are belters, how much you lose then? |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 26, 2019 19:36:54 GMT 1
Lay Town at 6/5...2.2. Then when they hit 9/5....2.8 you can greenout/cash out. If they win either of the first two games you have made 50%. Lose the first two and the odds will be the same virtually. At some point they will trade at 9/5 Liverpool for the Prem 4/1 Bournemouth bottom 25/1...Hills. Burnley relegated 4/1 Brum relegated 7/1 Wolves relegated 9/1 Bournemouth relegated 9/2 Salford 21/10 Lay L**ds not to be promoted 7/2 Accrington top half 7/2 Town above Bournemouth 2/1 Super Betting Man strikes again......some of them are belters, how much you lose then? The only one of them where i had a decent bet was Liverpool...and i traded out months back. Will not have bet £100 on that lot combined...they are fun bets. Won £42k last season, £97k the season before, about £30k up since November....won a smidgin today. How about a couple of screenshots showing £30k winners? Want to meet and i show you? £1000 says its true. Go pull some wings from flies. |
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Post by impact on May 26, 2019 19:40:02 GMT 1
Super Betting Man strikes again......some of them are belters, how much you lose then? The only one of them where i had a decent bet was Liverpool...and i traded out months back. Will not have bet £100 on that lot combined...they are fun bets. Won £42k last season, £97k the season before, about £30k up since November....won a smidgin today. How about a couple of screenshots showing £30k winners? Want to meet and i show you? £1000 says its true. Go pull some wings from flies. How about you just post those screenshots? |
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Post by rastrick32 on May 26, 2019 19:49:23 GMT 1
The only one of them where i had a decent bet was Liverpool...and i traded out months back. Will not have bet £100 on that lot combined...they are fun bets. Won £42k last season, £97k the season before, about £30k up since November....won a smidgin today. How about a couple of screenshots showing £30k winners? Want to meet and i show you? £1000 says its true. Go pull some wings from flies. How about you just post those screenshots? It is more probable that I will post some cumshots and I'm a virgin with erectile issues who doesn't know how to post pictures. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 19:51:45 GMT 1
Super Betting Man strikes again......some of them are belters, how much you lose then? The only one of them where i had a decent bet was Liverpool...and i traded out months back. Will not have bet £100 on that lot combined...they are fun bets. Won £42k last season, £97k the season before, about £30k up since November....won a smidgin today. How about a couple of screenshots showing £30k winners? Want to meet and i show you? £1000 says its true. Go pull some wings from flies. Yeah crack on show me. Just 95% of the bets you post on here or have posted, are utter dog in fairness. Yes you go on about your cashing out etc. Imagine as a normal bet, like the average joe does, they are and were dreadful, especially going off your points system. |
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Post by The-Crab on May 26, 2019 20:11:15 GMT 1
Super Betting Man strikes again......some of them are belters, how much you lose then? The only one of them where i had a decent bet was Liverpool...and i traded out months back. Will not have bet £100 on that lot combined...they are fun bets. Won £42k last season, £97k the season before, about £30k up since November....won a smidgin today. How about a couple of screenshots showing £30k winners? Want to meet and i show you? £1000 says its true. Go pull some wings from flies. Otium I have been betting for 30+ years and you can't win a fiver without them banning you now so those figures are pure fantasy and if they weren't it makes you look very odd to go around bragging about them |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 26, 2019 20:30:35 GMT 1
The only one of them where i had a decent bet was Liverpool...and i traded out months back. Will not have bet £100 on that lot combined...they are fun bets. Won £42k last season, £97k the season before, about £30k up since November....won a smidgin today. How about a couple of screenshots showing £30k winners? Want to meet and i show you? £1000 says its true. Go pull some wings from flies. How about you just post those screenshots? 1. I dont know how. 2. What...and give the game away? |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 26, 2019 20:32:56 GMT 1
The only one of them where i had a decent bet was Liverpool...and i traded out months back. Will not have bet £100 on that lot combined...they are fun bets. Won £42k last season, £97k the season before, about £30k up since November....won a smidgin today. How about a couple of screenshots showing £30k winners? Want to meet and i show you? £1000 says its true. Go pull some wings from flies. Yeah crack on show me. Just 95% of the bets you post on here or have posted, are utter dog in fairness. Yes you go on about your cashing out etc. Imagine as a normal bet, like the average joe does, they are and were dreadful, especially going off your points system. Go back to when i first posted on here 10 years back....gave 9 great winning tips from 10. I was asked to leave the biggest tipping site in the UK as i was that good i was pissing everyone off. Goodnight spezial school. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 26, 2019 20:36:56 GMT 1
The only one of them where i had a decent bet was Liverpool...and i traded out months back. Will not have bet £100 on that lot combined...they are fun bets. Won £42k last season, £97k the season before, about £30k up since November....won a smidgin today. How about a couple of screenshots showing £30k winners? Want to meet and i show you? £1000 says its true. Go pull some wings from flies. Yeah crack on show me. Just 95% of the bets you post on here or have posted, are utter dog in fairness. Yes you go on about your cashing out etc. Imagine as a normal bet, like the average joe does, they are and were dreadful, especially going off your points system. OK. First home game. If my account does not show £20k profit in the previous six months you win. If i dont show you two winning screen shots for £50k in the last year you win. You got a grand snot-rag? I simply wont have silly keyboard warriors telling me what i have or have not done. I bet 10 large today and more.....shrunken balls wont help you. If you dont like my posts fair enough...thats a different matter...but dont post untruths. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 26, 2019 20:37:59 GMT 1
I must have washing my hair that day you tipped up 9/10
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 26, 2019 20:40:13 GMT 1
The only one of them where i had a decent bet was Liverpool...and i traded out months back. Will not have bet £100 on that lot combined...they are fun bets. Won £42k last season, £97k the season before, about £30k up since November....won a smidgin today. How about a couple of screenshots showing £30k winners? Want to meet and i show you? £1000 says its true. Go pull some wings from flies. Otium I have been betting for 30+ years and you can't win a fiver without them banning you now so those figures are pure fantasy and if they weren't it makes you look very odd to go around bragging about them You also want to meet and have a grand on? Banned regularly. |
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