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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 7, 2018 19:39:50 GMT 1
“A dead weight” . What an absolute bell
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Post by WirralTerrier on Nov 7, 2018 19:46:57 GMT 1
Imagine we paid 20 million for him in the summer i think we might have all thought money well spent? I wouldn’t. He is an interesting talking point. I have often said I probably do use him as a bit of a scapegoat at times. Il pick up on his mistakes where as some other players I’m not so harsh on. That’s more so in reaction to people who think he’s a lot better than he actually is. But come on. If we signed a random 20 million central midfielder from the French league for instance. And he had put in like for like performances that Billing has done you would honestly think that would of been money well spent? Pull the other one. I would no doubt. He offers so much. He doesn't get as much praise as say Hogg as he doesnt appear to have as higher work rate as him but if you look at his stats, interceptions, distance covered, tackles etc he's our best performer. Tackles and interception hes above anyone. So he offers a lot defensively. Going forward he is our most effective probably more so than mooy, passing range brilliant, technically very good, rarely gives it away now and often has the most passes in our team. Also has the best ability of our squad for long range shots, hit the woodwork twice, offers a goal threat and has scored a goal in a very poor goalscoring team and gives us our long throws which we've become very reliant on. So all in all, he's become the focal point of our team and in my opinion one of the first names on the team sheet.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 19:49:25 GMT 1
“A dead weight” . What an absolute bell Dumb bell would be more apt.
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 7, 2018 21:36:32 GMT 1
Palace we caught cold....they were worth a draw and did not score for 7 matches. Billing average. Newcastle were worth a draw...another early game with nothing in it. Billing bang average. Bournemouth...deserved but never a 4-1. Billing came on for Mooy 11 minutes left to defend the lead. Watford ...a deserved win with a 96th min goal. Billing on for 13 minutes at the end...another top show that no-one saw. Fulham. You wont see a poorer permforance away this season. Billing less than average. So he has started in 3 wins. I was at 4 of those games. One sometimes has to look a little more closely. When we beat Man Utd 3-0 on Boxing Day and Billing is man-of-the-match with a brace i might take note......until then he is dead weight. Youre like a driver who takes a wrong turn... but just keeps on going regardless thinking eventually he'll get where he wants to go. You gave your views on a young player a few years ago. Nothing wrong with that, we all do it. But you got it hopelessly wrong mate. Don't be ashamed, we all do that too. You need to just accept it, swallow your pride and be a man about it.
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Post by haveitback on Nov 7, 2018 21:53:45 GMT 1
Billing a few years ago showed promise in spells of games, I myself was frustrated at his lack of effort at times forgetting just how young he was back then and still is, My god though he's made me eat humble pie with some of my previous comments, The lad this season and last has been brilliant for me, A driving force in the midfield in a team who has tried yes not got just rewards but Billing imo has been quality and iam sure despite some of the stick he gets on here from others, Should he be available on the transfer market most if not all of the lower 10 prem teams would look at signing him, I would go as far to say that even some of the bigger clubs might even take a punt with age and development on his side.
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Post by tockyterrier on Nov 8, 2018 0:24:50 GMT 1
I am seriously beginning to think Otium is getting Billing mixed up with another player.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 8, 2018 0:45:15 GMT 1
Palace we caught cold....they were worth a draw and did not score for 7 matches. Billing average. Newcastle were worth a draw...another early game with nothing in it. Billing bang average. Bournemouth...deserved but never a 4-1. Billing came on for Mooy 11 minutes left to defend the lead. Watford ...a deserved win with a 96th min goal. Billing on for 13 minutes at the end...another top show that no-one saw. Fulham. You wont see a poorer permforance away this season. Billing less than average. So he has started in 3 wins. I was at 4 of those games. One sometimes has to look a little more closely. When we beat Man Utd 3-0 on Boxing Day and Billing is man-of-the-match with a brace i might take note......until then he is dead weight. Youre like a driver who takes a wrong turn... but just keeps on going regardless thinking eventually he'll get where he wants to go. You gave your views on a young player a few years ago. Nothing wrong with that, we all do it. But you got it hopelessly wrong mate. Don't be ashamed, we all do that too. You need to just accept it, swallow your pride and be a man about it. Like the L&&ds fans top after 7 last year and this year i say "it is a long road". When he is an established Prem player, an international, a respected footy player then come back. I WILL be man enough. Never been wrong yet....dont anticipate it with Billing. Half the posters on here were pro Gobern...and Scannell...they were wrong.
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Post by pdhtafc on Nov 8, 2018 1:07:53 GMT 1
Youre like a driver who takes a wrong turn... but just keeps on going regardless thinking eventually he'll get where he wants to go. You gave your views on a young player a few years ago. Nothing wrong with that, we all do it. But you got it hopelessly wrong mate. Don't be ashamed, we all do that too. You need to just accept it, swallow your pride and be a man about it. Like the L&&ds fans top after 7 last year and this year i say "it is a long road". When he is an established Prem player, an international, a respected footy player then come back. I WILL be man enough. Never been wrong yet....dont anticipate it with Billing. Half the posters on here were pro Gobern...and Scannell...they were wrong. FFS, drop it. It's obvious you know NOTHING about the game of football. Do us all a favour and STFU.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 10:22:37 GMT 1
Youre like a driver who takes a wrong turn... but just keeps on going regardless thinking eventually he'll get where he wants to go. You gave your views on a young player a few years ago. Nothing wrong with that, we all do it. But you got it hopelessly wrong mate. Don't be ashamed, we all do that too. You need to just accept it, swallow your pride and be a man about it. Like the L&&ds fans top after 7 last year and this year i say "it is a long road". When he is an established Prem player, an international, a respected footy player then come back. I WILL be man enough. Never been wrong yet....dont anticipate it with Billing. Half the posters on here were pro Gobern...and Scannell...they were wrong. Would you not agree that you are rather moving the goalposts from your original assessment of Billing (potential as a youngster of 16/17 but has gone backwards and will never progress to the top level and will eventually end up at Bury).
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 8, 2018 11:12:56 GMT 1
Youre like a driver who takes a wrong turn... but just keeps on going regardless thinking eventually he'll get where he wants to go. You gave your views on a young player a few years ago. Nothing wrong with that, we all do it. But you got it hopelessly wrong mate. Don't be ashamed, we all do that too. You need to just accept it, swallow your pride and be a man about it. Like the L&&ds fans top after 7 last year and this year i say "it is a long road". When he is an established Prem player, an international, a respected footy player then come back. I WILL be man enough. Never been wrong yet....dont anticipate it with Billing. Half the posters on here were pro Gobern...and Scannell...they were wrong. He's first choice in a PL team, he plays international football in his age group (and has one of the top 5 players in the PL playing in his position for the open age national team) and appears to have the respect of fellow players and pundits. 🤔
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Post by townatheart on Nov 8, 2018 12:05:51 GMT 1
Like the L&&ds fans top after 7 last year and this year i say "it is a long road". When he is an established Prem player, an international, a respected footy player then come back. I WILL be man enough. Never been wrong yet....dont anticipate it with Billing. Half the posters on here were pro Gobern...and Scannell...they were wrong. He's first choice in a PL team, he plays international football in his age group (and has one of the top 5 players in the PL playing in his position for the open age national team) and appears to have the respect of fellow players and pundits. 🤔 That may be true, but do they know as much as Oti? Does anyone know as much?
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Post by herby57 on Nov 8, 2018 12:09:21 GMT 1
Palace we caught cold....they were worth a draw and did not score for 7 matches. Billing average. Newcastle were worth a draw...another early game with nothing in it. Billing bang average. Bournemouth...deserved but never a 4-1. Billing came on for Mooy 11 minutes left to defend the lead. Watford ...a deserved win with a 96th min goal. Billing on for 13 minutes at the end...another top show that no-one saw. Fulham. You wont see a poorer permforance away this season. Billing less than average. So he has started in 3 wins. I was at 4 of those games. One sometimes has to look a little more closely. When we beat Man Utd 3-0 on Boxing Day and Billing is man-of-the-match with a brace i might take note......until then he is dead weight. You give your appraisal of Billings performances as "average" but even with your inflated ego this is pure self aggrandizement. Your opinion doesn't matter one iota but it's put across as though a) you know what you're talking about, and b) it's the empirical truth. The fact is, he's holding down a first team place at a Premier League club and most unbiased observers can see why.
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Post by joburgjon on Nov 8, 2018 12:16:17 GMT 1
Why do people even respond to anything Otium posts......He's not even a Town fan, never has been. He's just a sad guy trying to wind everyone up.....Sadly he's doing it to a lot of you.
Stop responding to the plank and he will eventually go away
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Post by zoso on Nov 8, 2018 12:38:44 GMT 1
He's first choice in a PL team, he plays international football in his age group (and has one of the top 5 players in the PL playing in his position for the open age national team) and appears to have the respect of fellow players and pundits. 🤔 That may be true, but do they know as much as Oti? Does anyone know as much? Hell no!!!
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 8, 2018 12:42:41 GMT 1
He's first choice in a PL team, he plays international football in his age group (and has one of the top 5 players in the PL playing in his position for the open age national team) and appears to have the respect of fellow players and pundits. 🤔 That may be true, but do they know as much as Oti? Does anyone know as much? It doesn't matter, he'll change the boundaries like he did with the wins. He said 2, the answer was 5 and all of a sudden those 5 wins weren't against good enough opposition 😉
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 8, 2018 12:57:04 GMT 1
Surely anyone who thinks they’ve never been wrong about anything instantly marks themselves down as a complete bellend.
Otium is now a caricature of his once amusing and occasionally insightful self, sadly.
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Nov 8, 2018 13:06:07 GMT 1
A name change while keeping his last three letters to tedium may be in order.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 8, 2018 13:25:23 GMT 1
This is going to be exciting - looking forward to Oti's responses when he finally lands at whichever country he's visiting this week/today... It's all good fun, you get an insight into the mind of a genius on here. You'd pay for that wisdom in many other places...
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 8, 2018 13:54:59 GMT 1
Like the L&&ds fans top after 7 last year and this year i say "it is a long road". When he is an established Prem player, an international, a respected footy player then come back. I WILL be man enough. Never been wrong yet....dont anticipate it with Billing. Half the posters on here were pro Gobern...and Scannell...they were wrong. FFS, drop it. It's obvious you know NOTHING about the game of football. Do us all a favour and STFU. Nothing added there fella...just noise and abuse.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 8, 2018 14:15:17 GMT 1
Like the L&&ds fans top after 7 last year and this year i say "it is a long road". When he is an established Prem player, an international, a respected footy player then come back. I WILL be man enough. Never been wrong yet....dont anticipate it with Billing. Half the posters on here were pro Gobern...and Scannell...they were wrong. He's first choice in a PL team, he plays international football in his age group (and has one of the top 5 players in the PL playing in his position for the open age national team) and appears to have the respect of fellow players and pundits. 🤔 Is he first choice or is he just having a run? His age group is adult by the way. Which players and pundits? Everyone quotes the positive stats but no-one mentions the poor stats, giving away fouls, bookings, lack of goals. Lets have a look at these top 20 stats a few have thrown about this season. Goals, no. Assists, no. Passes, no. Shots, no. Through balls, no. Crosses, no. Tackles 6th. Blocks 15th. Clearances, no. Headed clearances, no. His second best ranking is joint 4th...on the bookings list. On the tackle list he is almost matched by that top tackler....Mooy. Watford have four players in the top 20. What is a block...getting hit by the ball? 3rd in hitting the woodwork though, his best ranking...thats great.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 8, 2018 14:17:43 GMT 1
This is going to be exciting - looking forward to Oti's responses when he finally lands at whichever country he's visiting this week/today... It's all good fun, you get an insight into the mind of a genius on here. You'd pay for that wisdom in many other places... Napoleon said that "genius is being average whilst all around you are crazy". Loads of loons on here that think Billing is top class.
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Post by ben1987 on Nov 8, 2018 14:29:58 GMT 1
Please make it stop.
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Post by Macjinx on Nov 8, 2018 14:39:49 GMT 1
Well Ben according to the admin action log we look to be getting a week off from “me me me, Billing Billing Billing, Moslems Moslems Moslems”.
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 8, 2018 14:47:16 GMT 1
He's first choice in a PL team, he plays international football in his age group (and has one of the top 5 players in the PL playing in his position for the open age national team) and appears to have the respect of fellow players and pundits. 🤔 Is he first choice or is he just having a run? His age group is adult by the way. Which players and pundits? Everyone quotes the positive stats but no-one mentions the poor stats, giving away fouls, bookings, lack of goals. Lets have a look at these top 20 stats a few have thrown about this season. Goals, no. Assists, no. Passes, no. Shots, no. Through balls, no. Crosses, no. Tackles 6th. Blocks 15th. Clearances, no. Headed clearances, no. His second best ranking is joint 4th...on the bookings list. On the tackle list he is almost matched by that top tackler....Mooy. Watford have four players in the top 20. What is a block...getting hit by the ball? 3rd in hitting the woodwork though, his best ranking...thats great. Why do negative stats count but positive ones don't ? Why are you trying to do down one of our own players, the only one to come through the ranks and represent us at the highest level for over 45 years ? It seems a strange way to go about things just because you're too pig-headed to admit you might be mistaken. Would you like to list the Town players who've consistently out performed him this season ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 14:47:25 GMT 1
He's first choice in a PL team, he plays international football in his age group (and has one of the top 5 players in the PL playing in his position for the open age national team) and appears to have the respect of fellow players and pundits. 🤔 Is he first choice or is he just having a run? His age group is adult by the way. Which players and pundits? Everyone quotes the positive stats but no-one mentions the poor stats, giving away fouls, bookings, lack of goals. Lets have a look at these top 20 stats a few have thrown about this season. Goals, no. Assists, no. Passes, no. Shots, no. Through balls, no. Crosses, no. Tackles 6th. Blocks 15th. Clearances, no. Headed clearances, no. His second best ranking is joint 4th...on the bookings list. On the tackle list he is almost matched by that top tackler....Mooy. Watford have four players in the top 20. What is a block...getting hit by the ball? 3rd in hitting the woodwork though, his best ranking...thats great. Goals, no? Wrong. Again.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Nov 8, 2018 14:49:41 GMT 1
No point quoting someone who is banned. Shame really. He adds a certain colour to the board.
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 8, 2018 14:51:50 GMT 1
No point quoting someone who is banned. Shame really. He adds a certain colour to the board. Didn't know he was banned when I replied
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Post by drumriggend on Nov 8, 2018 14:51:54 GMT 1
The Otium bullying?? I agree.. Leave the poor lad alone.. He's fully entitled to come on ere and talk bollox.. Just like me... I disagree wi most of his posts.. But I still read em.. #Guilty pleasure.. Crack on oti. Don't let the buggers grind you down🤡
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 8, 2018 14:54:30 GMT 1
No point quoting someone who is banned. Shame really. He adds a certain colour to the board. Shame it’s “horse dung brown”
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Post by terrier70 on Nov 8, 2018 14:54:30 GMT 1
If only football was played just using stats alone
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