jim59
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Post by jim59 on Mar 9, 2019 17:56:41 GMT 1
The point I am t Yong to make is that they lost their way under Wagner who lost his way . There should have been at least some pick up in effort levels with the new manager effect. This just has not happened. "...t Yong....." Says it all, really.
So my point Is invalid because of a spelling error?
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Post by detox on Mar 9, 2019 17:56:42 GMT 1
so sad to see it end like this, but when you do what we didn't do in summer - it was inevitable. This season is 100% doiwn to summer recruitment. The fans have been sh*t on this season...
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Mar 9, 2019 17:56:43 GMT 1
Next game let’s just do dizzy penalties with the players, have them have a rummage in Gemma’s box and then give the opposition the 3 points and we can all go home early. Would be more entertaining too
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 9, 2019 17:56:56 GMT 1
Cant even score - or even get close to scoring one fucking goal at home. Against a team who have lost the last 9 away
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Post by k1man999 on Mar 9, 2019 17:57:29 GMT 1
Newcastle 2-0 down and now 3-2 up. Fight - spirit - character - whatever cliche you want. And a manager with know how and tactics
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Post by Ibiza Town on Mar 9, 2019 17:58:46 GMT 1
Do they look motivated to you? Just as motivated as they did under wagner Disagree with this. There were many problems under Wagner, mainly due to our total lack of attacking ability, but motivation wasn't a problem. Today was a total mess. Players not interested, but its hardly surprising, there was no plan, no system no strategy. Its hard to be motivated when you dont know what the fuck you're supposed to be doing
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Post by impact on Mar 9, 2019 17:58:57 GMT 1
Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
Our best player is stuck on the left wing, we had a centre mid at right back and the 1 player who actually looks to get in behind sat on the bench.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 9, 2019 18:00:53 GMT 1
So will Grant start instead of Mounie next game ? If he doesn’t then we have to ask what Siewart is seeing that we aren’t.
Rather see the kids thrown in now..
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Mar 9, 2019 18:01:10 GMT 1
Sounds like going out on my bike was the right decision today
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Post by gymroidspump on Mar 9, 2019 18:01:20 GMT 1
Echoing an earlier comment I dont reckon this manager has it. Whilst we can accept lack of quality they look totally disinterested. Totally unacceptable the manager is not motivating them. Wagner could only get 5 wins out of this team in over 40 odd games. Maybe just maybe the quality of the team and the desire/motivation just isn't good enough for the level we are playing at. Or maybe let's just sack him and try another manager until the end of the season just to confirm it. So either Wagner wasn't good enough or we didn't spend enough money. Which is it? Or both? Wage cap of what, £50k a week? Say we can't sack off the shite and have to pay them that for the next 2 years and can't bring anyone in, then what? We end up in the same scenario as if we actually spent big. Would have been better to actually go for it and spend some real cash and see where we end up. Wouldn't be where we are now in betting. Total fuck up of a season. Tight arses cost controlling, doing it on the cheap. Tossers
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Post by stanton1969 on Mar 9, 2019 18:01:47 GMT 1
And to think I was berated for saying the team was being picked by throwing darts at panini stickers a couple of weeks ago. I saw that line up today and thought the same thing. It just made no sense whatsoever.
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Mar 9, 2019 18:02:46 GMT 1
So will Grant start instead of Mounie next game ? If he doesn’t then we have to ask what Siewart is seeing that we aren’t. Rather see the kids thrown in now.. I agree I would rather any young lad who plays well given a chance. It’s not like it could be any more depressing than it is now. Atleast it would give them experience and show some of the first teamers what it is to try
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Post by sonny on Mar 9, 2019 18:03:06 GMT 1
Doesn't look as though Siewert is getting any respect from seasoned professionals. Just another of the terrible management decisions made this season. He will start next season as damaged goods.
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Post by rantinray on Mar 9, 2019 18:03:39 GMT 1
The honest truth is that this team will struggle in the Championship. No goals equals no points. I blame Wagner and whoever bought the players we got for the last two seasons. In fact goals have been a problem for a very long time. Just look back in history and see the goals for count.
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Macduff
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Post by Macduff on Mar 9, 2019 18:03:43 GMT 1
Very predictable. Build up always too slow, lack of movement up front can't help. At the moment not one of our players appears capable of causing the opposition any concern. Final ball mostly laughable. We're incapable of hurting the opposition, other than mistimed tackles. The defending for the 2 goals was local league standard. JS needs to think about his starting 11 for next season, and keep playing those who might well be in it. Doesn't look like Billing will be included. I still have blind faith that it will always be better next game. I should know better after 60 years. Hey ho. UTT
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Mar 9, 2019 18:03:52 GMT 1
Actually any Town Ladies player who wants a game is welcome too
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Post by dm on Mar 9, 2019 18:08:41 GMT 1
Can anybody tell me what Kachunga excels at?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 18:08:47 GMT 1
"...t Yong....." Says it all, really.
So my point Is invalid because of a spelling error?
No. I just thought you summed up the current situation perfectly....:-)
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Post by impact on Mar 9, 2019 18:08:50 GMT 1
Sick to death of Pritchard throwing himself to ground at the slightest bit of contact. Just don't see what he brings to the team either. Always looks busy without actually doing much effective at all Other teams do it and get fouls. Case and point, Fraser all day. We get booted and get nothing.
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Post by impact on Mar 9, 2019 18:10:20 GMT 1
No one will ever convince me Durm is a decent footballer Our best player by a distance 1st half.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 9, 2019 18:10:23 GMT 1
I know our squad is shit but how have Cardiff got 28 points compared to our 14 ? Our lack of attacking intent this season has been off the scale... what happened to:
We are not here to say hello No limits We will not sleep walk into relegation.
Sorry but I am so fxcked off today.. totally embarrassing.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Mar 9, 2019 18:10:39 GMT 1
I don't think its a lack of respect, its more that theres a lot of players in that team who know he won't be here next season so can't be arsed. Also, the same with a lot of fans, have been settling for below par performances under DW and JS has come in, rocked the boat a bit and they don't like that.
However, definitely can't stick up for the team selection today.
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Post by canterburyterrier on Mar 9, 2019 18:11:12 GMT 1
Wagner could only get 5 wins out of this team in over 40 odd games. Maybe just maybe the quality of the team and the desire/motivation just isn't good enough for the level we are playing at. Or maybe let's just sack him and try another manager until the end of the season just to confirm it. So either Wagner wasn't good enough or we didn't spend enough money. Which is it? Or both? Wage cap of what, £50k a week? Say we can't sack off the shite and have to pay them that for the next 2 years and can't bring anyone in, then what? We end up in the same scenario as if we actually spent big. Would have been better to actually go for it and spend some real cash and see where we end up. Wouldn't be where we are now in betting. Total fuck up of a season. Tight arses cost controlling, doing it on the cheap. TossersWe aren't rich, Dean Hoyle isn't rich for a football owner. He has chosen to run the football club he owns the way he wants to. To call him a tosser after all the money he has invested when he didn't need to invest anything is absolutely ridiculous. Things haven't worked out the way any of us would have wanted but we will have a football team to watch next year without going into debt. Fulham have spent over £100 million this year in transfer fees and perhaps the same again in salaries and pay offs for managers - they are going down with us. Spending money doesn't guarantee success.
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Post by crux on Mar 9, 2019 18:12:08 GMT 1
That was a new low in an abysmal season. You weren't at Craven Cottage then! Nothing can be worse than that game. At least we looked to get forward today, we did bugger all when we got there bit we did get there. At Fulham we camped in our own half until the 90th minute when we gave them the winner.
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Post by impact on Mar 9, 2019 18:13:07 GMT 1
No top manager could have done anything with this lot as big Sam said Wagner should have relegation stamped all over his CV as always a case to mix the rough with the smooth Totally agree. Wagner has taken us down. Nobody else. Utter bollocks. If it was all Wagner's fault then Jan would have turned it around in some very winnable games. The fact he hasn't come close to looking like it tells you everything. The squad right now is a joke. And that's the board's fault.
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Post by Moooooy on Mar 9, 2019 18:13:34 GMT 1
0-2 flattered us massively. No shots on goal, no chances. Tactics? I don’t know how we were setup to play. Really poor from management to players. Siewert has come in at a bad time but I thought we would have an indication as to how he wants to play by now.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Mar 9, 2019 18:14:35 GMT 1
This is a total blame game " EXCEPT FOR THE FANS "
Hoyle = Underfunded investment in quality at this level mainly this season thus getting nothing more than we deserved Wagner = Dreadful summer recruitement ,and relegation needs to be STAMPED on his CV as only fair to take the rough with the smooth Jan = His chance will come next season providing Hoyle gives him some money to buy quality The fans = This club does not deserve these wonderful fans
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Post by gymroidspump on Mar 9, 2019 18:15:44 GMT 1
So either Wagner wasn't good enough or we didn't spend enough money. Which is it? Or both? Wage cap of what, £50k a week? Say we can't sack off the shite and have to pay them that for the next 2 years and can't bring anyone in, then what? We end up in the same scenario as if we actually spent big. Would have been better to actually go for it and spend some real cash and see where we end up. Wouldn't be where we are now in betting. Total fuck up of a season. Tight arses cost controlling, doing it on the cheap. TossersWe aren't rich, Dean Hoyle isn't rich for a football owner. He has chosen to run the football club he owns the way he wants to. To call him a tosser after all the money he has invested when he didn't need to invest anything is absolutely ridiculous. Things haven't worked out the way any of us would have wanted but we will have a football team to watch next year without going into debt. Fulham have spent over £100 million this year in transfer fees and perhaps the same again in salaries and pay offs for managers - they are going down with us. Spending money doesn't guarantee success. I forgot you're all Hoyle's mates on here. When's he inviting you over for dinner? Oh, yeah, wait, he's not. Did I say Dean Hoyle is a tosser? This season was done on the cheap and we're rock bottom. Deservedly so. Had we spent what Fulham did where would we be? We'll never know, mate. Feels like we had spokespeople constantly playing down Huddersfield Town. We know who we are, where know where we've come from, little terrier snapping at the ankles of the big dogs. Embarrassing.
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Post by gymroidspump on Mar 9, 2019 18:18:25 GMT 1
Totally agree. Wagner has taken us down. Nobody else. Utter bollocks. If it was all Wagner's fault then Jan would have turned it around in some very winnable games. The fact he hasn't come close to looking like it tells you everything. The squad right now is a joke. And that's the board's fault. So someone willing to blame Hoyle? Careful, you'll get pelters! The entire club fucked this up from Hoyle down
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Post by Ibiza Town on Mar 9, 2019 18:18:48 GMT 1
This is a total blame game " EXCEPT FOR THE FANS " Hoyle = Underfunded investment in quality at this level mainly this season thus getting nothing more than we deserved Wagner = Dreadful summer recruitement ,and relegation needs to be STAMPED on his CV as only fair to take the rough with the smooth Jan = His chance will come next season providing Hoyle gives him some money to buy quality The fans = This club does not deserve these wonderful fans you referring to the wonderful fans who slag off an owner who took us from League 1 to Premier league using 50 mil of his own money?
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