Personally, I can't believe he's managed to make this explanation stick. Hennessey claims he did not know what a Nazi salute was and the panel commented, 'Improbable as that may seem to those of us of an older generation...' Hennessey is 32 years old, that's one year older than me. Now I'm not saying I have authority to speak on behalf of the "younger generation," and I'm sure this will only come as a shock to those that were on the panel, but it is also totally improbable that anyone of 32 does not know what a Nazi salute is. What did he do in history class at school? He can't have just studied the Tudors the whole time! Even the most ignorant of my peers know what a Nazi salute is - in fact I'd argue it's the most ignorant that are the most likely to crack it out and so maybe his defence of ignorance should have been evidence enough?
Personally, I can't believe he's managed to make this explanation stick. Hennessey claims he did not know what a Nazi salute was and the panel commented, 'Improbable as that may seem to those of us of an older generation...' Hennessey is 32 years old, that's one year older than me. Now I'm not saying I have authority to speak on behalf of the "younger generation," and I'm sure this will only come as a shock to those that were on the panel, but it is also totally improbable that anyone of 32 does not know what a Nazi salute is. What did he do in history class at school? He can't have just studied the Tudors the whole time! Even the most ignorant of my peers know what a Nazi salute is - in fact I'd argue it's the most ignorant that are the most likely to crack it out and so maybe his defence of ignorance should have been evidence enough?
Hennessey said he "waved and shouted at the person taking the picture to get on with it" and "put my hand over my mouth to make the sound carry". 😂 The world’s gone mental. We’re meant to believe that and he’s not heard of Nazis.
Personally, I can't believe he's managed to make this explanation stick. Hennessey claims he did not know what a Nazi salute was and the panel commented, 'Improbable as that may seem to those of us of an older generation...' Hennessey is 32 years old, that's one year older than me. Now I'm not saying I have authority to speak on behalf of the "younger generation," and I'm sure this will only come as a shock to those that were on the panel, but it is also totally improbable that anyone of 32 does not know what a Nazi salute is. What did he do in history class at school? He can't have just studied the Tudors the whole time! Even the most ignorant of my peers know what a Nazi salute is - in fact I'd argue it's the most ignorant that are the most likely to crack it out and so maybe his defence of ignorance should have been evidence enough?
Hennessey said he "waved and shouted at the person taking the picture to get on with it" and "put my hand over my mouth to make the sound carry". 😂 The world’s gone mental. We’re meant to believe that and he’s not heard of Nazis.
Wasn't the chap taking the photo German too? Hmmmmm.
He could have simply apologised and explained it away with a well worded statement about banter going too far. He isn't the first to mock the Germans with the salute...John Cleese springs straight to mind, and even Prince Harry got involved in a bit of ill-thought out Nazi glorifying fancy dress. Instead he's just come out of it looking like a lying knob.
The FA come off just as badly, if not worse for swallowing that pile of horse shit.
Post by cissystrutt74 on Apr 17, 2019 9:34:55 GMT 1
Careers, relationships and livlihoods are now routinely ruined by tweets sent years before. He's trying to protect his career and sticking you am in the air like John cleese or father Ted does not make him a ticket holding member of the SS.
This is just the usual media witch hunt to label some one a racist.
Move on. There's worse than this bolloxks happening out there!
Careers, relationships and livlihoods are now routinely ruined by tweets sent years before. He's trying to protect his career and sticking you am in the air like John cleese or father Ted does not make him a ticket holding member of the SS.
This is just the usual media witch hunt to label some one a racist.
Move on. There's worse than this bolloxks happening out there!
True. I know a lad who got sacked because somebody dredged up a racist Facebook post he'd made when he was 12 years old.
I cannot look at this from any angle that does not point to this being complete and utter fucking bollocks.
Of course he's heard of Nazis.
Of course he knows what a Nazi salute is.
But what exactly has he done wrong here? Why is it so bad to take the piss out of Nazis?
It's just one of those ones where a footballer in the public eye is initially taken to task for just being a bit distasteful or rude. It wouldn't have been a news story at all if he didn't firstly come up with the 'I was waving at a friend while covering my mouth' excuse, and definitely wouldn't be back in now if he didn't pretend he'd never seen a nazi salute before
The first / only defence of the modern top level professional footballer when cornered. Plead ignorance. They are so cosseted in their day to day lives, they rarely have to engage with the real world. Just watch any premier squad getting off the coach on arrival at a match. All wearing headphones, dead-eyed and hardly ever acknowledging the presence of the fans. Little wonder that so many go off the rails at the end of their careers. In my humble opinion, their on the field performances would benefit from a more enlightened encouragement to lift their heads from the grass occasionally and engage with the world. I believe the clubs, PFA, FA, Premier league and all the other monolithic bureaucracies with their snouts in the trough should take responsibility for the nurturing of the whole individual, not just the footballer. There are many notable exceptions in the modern game - Salah, Kompany and, latterly, Sterling, who have learned that their exalted position in society can be used generously, not selfishly. Just my opinion.
Well, at least I know what you're talking about here...
I'm glad you do. I'm sat here wondering if I should regret dropping history in Yr9.
The bodies of Mussolini and his girlfriend Clara Petacci were suspended upside down - although not from lamp-posts - in the Piazzale Loreto and then cut down and mutilated by the populace. Women urinated on Petacci's body.
He doesn't know about Hitler and the Nazi's? I can only assume he watches Bargain Hunt and Flog It and not Yesterday on his 54" Flatscreen.
If it is true that he doesn't know then that is alarming and bizarre.
I would be too embarrassed to try and get away with it by pretending I've not heard of Hitler, I mean just think about it for a minute, a 32 year old man and I didn't know what a Nazi salute was, plus covering his mouth to make his voice louder was just a weird coincidence that that's what muppets do to indicate a Hitler style tach when going Sieg Hiel. You couldn't make it up. Yet again the football authorities need to hang their heads in shame. I trust Palace will now ensure that all their employees are given some education to avoid a further embarrassing incident like this in the future. Also, will any fans who now accidentally do a Hitler impression at a game will avoid punishment as it was through ignorance rather than malice.
I'm glad you do. I'm sat here wondering if I should regret dropping history in Yr9.
The bodies of Mussolini and his girlfriend Clara Petacci were suspended upside down - although not from lamp-posts - in the Piazzale Loreto and then cut down and mutilated by the populace. Women urinated on Petacci's body.
Yet another storm in a teacup. There's one nearly every day in this crazy PC World.
There can't be many people on here who at some point in the dim and distant haven't done a Hitler salute while holding two fingers under their nose to mimic a stupid tach. I'd like to think that 99.9% of the time it was silly school boy stuff, Ministry of Silly Walks and all that, I know it's not PC but if it's not done with malice and it's not aimed at a Jewish target it's not much of a hate crime, is it ? To me the story is him doing it, being photographed then the ridiculous explanation to try and get out of it, all he had to do was apologise, I didn't mean any harm, end of story but this way it becomes a news story and he comes out of as either a liar or mentally subnormal.
He doesn't know about Hitler and the Nazi's? I can only assume he watches Bargain Hunt and Flog It and not Yesterday on his 54" Flatscreen.
If it is true that he doesn't know then that is alarming and bizarre.
I would be too embarrassed to try and get away with it by pretending I've not heard of Hitler, I mean just think about it for a minute, a 32 year old man and I didn't know what a Nazi salute was, plus covering his mouth to make his voice louder was just a weird coincidence that that's what muppets do to indicate a Hitler style tach when going Sieg Hiel. You couldn't make it up. Yet again the football authorities need to hang their heads in shame. I trust Palace will now ensure that all their employees are given some education to avoid a further embarrassing incident like this in the future. Also, will any fans who now accidentally do a Hitler impression at a game will avoid punishment as it was through ignorance rather than malice.
I am constantly suprised, possibly dismayed about what younger people know and have absolutely no knowledge about.. The calls for Education seem to have come recently from areas where their own use of language/signalling has been probably worse in context than those they demand be 'educated'..The education required seems to be needed on the 'other side'??
I do wonder if I was one of a few people who were educated in the horrors comitted by all sides in wars and ended up with a reasonably balanced view of what was 'required and necessary' and what was punitive and revenge based???
A great many younger people think Churchill is an insurance dog and Mrs Thatcher was a caricature of something but they dont actually know what???
One 11 year old knew about Dresden in some detail but was unable to give anything other than the words 'The Blitz' on the bombing of London, she was not sure what 'Blitz' really meant but could describe the effects of the firestorm in Dresden??
Education can be as skewed as those teaching it or those deciding what is taught and how its taught??? as it ever was.......dont rely on someone else educating or being educated??
I'm glad you do. I'm sat here wondering if I should regret dropping history in Yr9.
The bodies of Mussolini and his girlfriend Clara Petacci were suspended upside down - although not from lamp-posts - in the Piazzale Loreto and then cut down and mutilated by the populace. Women urinated on Petacci's body.
The bodies of Mussolini and his girlfriend Clara Petacci were suspended upside down - although not from lamp-posts - in the Piazzale Loreto and then cut down and mutilated by the populace. Women urinated on Petacci's body.