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Post by alex on Apr 28, 2019 13:41:57 GMT 1
Watching Villa V Dirty, this is prob' about as dramatic as it gets, credit to them for giving the goal. I've seen about 20 EPL games this season, it will be a massive test for us. It's gonna be a tough long slog kids.
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Post by impact on Apr 28, 2019 13:50:09 GMT 1
So the quality of the championship is what exactly?
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Post by royrace on Apr 28, 2019 13:53:22 GMT 1
From what I've seen both teams would beat town comfortably. Not brilliant football but well organised and effective.
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Post by space hardware on Apr 28, 2019 14:02:43 GMT 1
So the quality of the championship is what exactly? Shite |
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Post by terriers321 on Apr 28, 2019 14:08:26 GMT 1
From what I've seen both teams would beat town comfortably. Not brilliant football but well organised and effective. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards With our current set up I wouldn't fancy us to beat anyone in the championship in a one off at the moment. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 28, 2019 14:18:20 GMT 1
From what I've seen both teams would beat town comfortably. Not brilliant football but well organised and effective. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards With our current set up I wouldn't fancy us to beat anyone in the championship in a one off at the moment. So what, it's completely irrelevant. We aren't going to go into next season with the same squad, leaving better players out of the starting eleven nor hopefully with the mentality we have presently. Our team pre November/December would likely have beaten both, but again, irrelevant. This place is just daft. |
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Post by goalden on Apr 28, 2019 14:18:22 GMT 1
I’m the complete opposite. I see us with pretty much the same players that have already been promoted from that league with a few ‘lower PL/upper Championship players added + a few potential additions and we should do well.
I used to be worried about playing against good quality championship strikers but having watched us play world class strikers week in week out I now see players of a significantly lower ability. They might all score goals but they need three/four chances a game. And that is clear cut chances - not the half chances Mounié has been getting.
We keep saying that our players wouldn’t get in other PL teams but pretty much all our players would have played in either Leeds or Villa’s teams. And that includes LDP (at a push).
Yes the season has been tough, but you have got to enjoy the optimism of a close season. New division, new(ish) manager, new more-attacking playing style, new players, new memories.
Am I the only one loking forward to the new fixtures coming out?
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Apr 28, 2019 14:23:24 GMT 1
I’m the complete opposite. I see us with pretty much the same players that have already been promoted from that league with a few ‘lower PL/upper Championship players added + a few potential additions and we should do well. I used to be worried about playing against good quality championship strikers but having watched us play world class strikers week in week out I now see players of a significantly lower ability. They might all score goals but they need three/four chances a game. And that is clear cut chances - not the half chances Mounié has been getting. 3 goals from over 125 shots tells its own story. |
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Post by softboy on Apr 28, 2019 14:26:11 GMT 1
You really dont see us beating anyone in the Championship next season !!
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Post by goalden on Apr 28, 2019 14:26:23 GMT 1
[/quote]3 goals from over 125 shots tells
its own story. [/quote]
What stats are these?
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Post by impact on Apr 28, 2019 14:27:02 GMT 1
Championship defending is shite.
Villa's goal today against Leeds is a prime example. Adomah is allowed to run 40 yards round the entire team and only 1 player got close enough to attempt a tackle, and he even messed that up.
No idea what the keeper was doing that far out either.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Apr 28, 2019 14:31:23 GMT 1
3 goals from over 125 shots tells its own story. [/quote] What stats are these?[/quote] Brentford away 18 shots no goals Wigan home 36 shots 1 goal Wednesday home 28 shots 1 goal Sheff U home 17 shots no goals Villa home 27 shots 1 goal. Im agreeing with you, the standard is nowhere near. |
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Post by Melc on Apr 28, 2019 14:31:55 GMT 1
From what I've seen both teams would beat town comfortably. Not brilliant football but well organised and effective. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards With our current set up I wouldn't fancy us to beat anyone in the championship in a one off at the moment. I always thought before Wagner went that with a few tweaks to the current squad we could have been in a decent position. Now after 13 games we just seem to have lost everything what we had and where known for. If the stories of pending changes at the top are about to happen soon, then things could look different! |
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Post by terriers321 on Apr 28, 2019 14:46:38 GMT 1
With our current set up I wouldn't fancy us to beat anyone in the championship in a one off at the moment. So what, it's completely irrelevant. We aren't going to go I to next season with the same squad, leaving better players out of the starting eleven nor hopefully with the mentality we have presently. Our team pre November/December would likely have beaten both, but again, irrelevant. This place is just daft. It's a discussion forum. 99 percent of the talk is irrelevant. I never said we were going to lose every game next season ffs. Our pre December side did superbly against a shite Stoke in the cup though 👍 |
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Post by kes on Apr 28, 2019 14:56:21 GMT 1
Watching Burnley today. League one football with quality players. Never play out from the back. Always look to go long. They won't concede the type of goals we do faffing about with it with the keeper passing it out.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Apr 28, 2019 15:33:18 GMT 1
Can we sign Tyrone Mings... quality since loan move. Sorted out their shit defence
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 28, 2019 15:52:21 GMT 1
Do people honestly think we'd struggle to pick up results in the championship with Shindler, Kongolo, Bacuna, Mooy, Hogg, Grant, etc? Löwe, Smith, Kachunga & Prichard didn't exactly struggle the last time they were in the championship either.
The premier league is a completely different beast to the championship, do people not realise this?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 28, 2019 16:05:24 GMT 1
Do people honestly think we'd struggle to pick up results in the championship with Shindler, Kongolo, Bacuna, Mooy, Hogg, Grant, etc? Löwe, Smith, Kachunga & Prichard didn't exactly struggle the last time they were in the championship either. The premier league is a completely different beast to the championship, do people not realise this? I bet Stoke fans said the same last summer reeling off names like Afobe, Ince, Allen, Martins Indi, Butland, Etebo, Fletcher, Shawcross, Berahinho Its not as straight forward as just having decent players. They've got to want it too |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 28, 2019 16:31:59 GMT 1
if we use this seasons performances and this seasons team/squad, yes it would be really tough in the championship..
given that none of the above is relevant its a pointless discussion or to give an opinion on, there are far too many variables....
norwich may score a few next year but if they defend the same again they will let in a shitload, they will have some new defenders..
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 28, 2019 17:23:45 GMT 1
Do people honestly think we'd struggle to pick up results in the championship with Shindler, Kongolo, Bacuna, Mooy, Hogg, Grant, etc? Löwe, Smith, Kachunga & Prichard didn't exactly struggle the last time they were in the championship either. The premier league is a completely different beast to the championship, do people not realise this? Agree but all depends on whether these aforementioned players want to stay and play for Siewert. Impossible to be positive until we know what the squad looks like. |
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Post by explorer on Apr 28, 2019 17:52:53 GMT 1
Do people honestly think we'd struggle to pick up results in the championship with Shindler, Kongolo, Bacuna, Mooy, Hogg, Grant, etc? Löwe, Smith, Kachunga & Prichard didn't exactly struggle the last time they were in the championship either. The premier league is a completely different beast to the championship, do people not realise this? Agree but all depends on whether these aforementioned players want to stay and play for Siewert. Impossible to be positive until we know what the squad looks like. Therefore equally impossible to be negative, but it doesn’t stop the doom and gloom merchants letting us know how shite we’re going to be next season. |
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Post by H7 on Apr 28, 2019 18:25:14 GMT 1
Do people honestly think we'd struggle to pick up results in the championship with Shindler, Kongolo, Bacuna, Mooy, Hogg, Grant, etc? Löwe, Smith, Kachunga & Prichard didn't exactly struggle the last time they were in the championship either. The premier league is a completely different beast to the championship, do people not realise this? Exactly this, heard nonsense spouted such as this is the worst town team ever totally disregarding the quality of the opposition we are coming up against every week. Imagine thinking this squad is worse than when we were in league 2, league 1, struggling in the champ etc. Not saying that we will have a great year next year but we certainly will have better players than the majority of the champ, but its about how much they want it and how the manager gets them playing that will be the key factor. |
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Post by NewMill Terrier on Apr 28, 2019 18:35:57 GMT 1
Anyone who says the Championship standard is shit is wrong IMO. It's a very tough and competitive division and next season I believe it will be even tougher as I expect Fulham to a good side next year, Stoke will improve, Sheff Wed,Preston and Forrest will all be expecting to push for top 6 and Forrest could spend a fair bit this summer. Plus all the teams who don't go up via the play offs could push on again next season. I'd be happy for a top 10 finish and build from there.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 28, 2019 18:55:29 GMT 1
So what, it's completely irrelevant. We aren't going to go I to next season with the same squad, leaving better players out of the starting eleven nor hopefully with the mentality we have presently. Our team pre November/December would likely have beaten both, but again, irrelevant. This place is just daft. It's a discussion forum. 99 percent of the talk is irrelevant. I never said we were going to lose every game next season ffs. Our pre December side did superbly against a shite Stoke in the cup though 👍 I never said you did say they would lose every game. Anyway, it's irrelevant because you're talking about a theoretical situation that won't ever happen. Plus that side put out against Stoke wasn't remotely full strength either. |
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Post by terriers321 on Apr 28, 2019 19:13:39 GMT 1
It's a discussion forum. 99 percent of the talk is irrelevant. I never said we were going to lose every game next season ffs. Our pre December side did superbly against a shite Stoke in the cup though 👍 I never said you did say they would lose every game. Anyway, it's irrelevant because you're talking about a theoretical situation that won't ever happen. Plus that side put out against Stoke wasn't remotely full strength either. You didn't that was another poster, apologies. The whole forum is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. A wide spectrum of town fans spouting off different opinions that doesn't affect the club one iota. I was simply stating how bad I think we are at the moment as a team. I'm generally half positive for next season with the correct recruitment. |
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Post by ponteterrier on Apr 28, 2019 19:17:54 GMT 1
Short answer. The championship is shite, and we'll still struggle..
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Post by ram on Apr 29, 2019 11:01:22 GMT 1
From what I have seen,on Telly,of the championship sides {especially the ones going up} I find it hard to believe any of them will stay longer than we did,even with adding new players {have Sheffield U and Norwich got the brass to buy Prem class players?}
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Post by Torquayterrier on Apr 29, 2019 11:13:21 GMT 1
Norwich might do OK (ie avoid relegation), with Webber still there he might pick up some decent players for them over the summer without bankrupting them. I think Sheffield may have a bigger task. Of the expected playoff contenders maybe Villa have the infrastructure to stay up (just) if they got promoted, others would struggle like Cardiff have. I think whoever just avoids relegation from prem this season (Cardiff or Brighton) is in for another tough one next time.
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Post by foxtrot666 on Apr 29, 2019 11:30:46 GMT 1
Norwich are decent going forward but have conceded 56 goals, how many would they concede against the likes of Salah, Hazard and Aguero ? They will need to bring in some decent defenders to have a chance next season and as we all know they don't come cheap, 100 million couldn't keep Fulham up and I think they were better than Norwich and Sheff Utd.
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Post by royrace on Apr 29, 2019 12:29:15 GMT 1
The form of Stoke and Swansea this season who were both miles better last season that we have been this leads me to conclude it's gonna be difficult.
When you throw either Jan or another new manager into the mix and a massively disrupted squad, anything could happen.
The manager and recruitment is obviously key, get both right and top six is possible. Get either wrong and we could end up in a relegation fight.
The Championship is far from easy.
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