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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 20, 2019 8:01:39 GMT 1
Rose needs to get off his high horse.
What about Latinos and Arabs? Or does he just want to single out one particular group and treat them differently to all others?
If he can name 15 BME managers currently out of work that can do a better job then name them.
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Post by wetherbyt on May 20, 2019 8:14:09 GMT 1
Danny, he lost his job because he won 3 out of 23.. not because he is black, because he ran out of ideas, so , are chairmen not allowed to sack black managers now ? Danny... This is a none issue, but you want it make it one.... WHY ? ........ he lost his job because he did.... like Powell did with us....... Stop dragging up race..because all this does is make you look racist against the white man...
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 8:32:20 GMT 1
"They need the big clubs. Why not the England manager's job?” Great shout Chantelle... “Sorry Gareth you’re relieved of your England manager duties because Sol Campbell, that bloke who just started managing 7 months ago, or maybe Emile as a starter job, deserve a go at it” Maybe I’m naive but the best managers get the jobs. Hughton and Moore will walk into new jobs within the next few months. The likes of Powell, who has been proven to be useless for several lower league clubs for years now, will wait longer. You’re right Danny the numbers don’t lie and win % rates is one of the first stats these chairmen will look at. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 20, 2019 9:06:15 GMT 1
Theres a few numbers that never seem to get a mention when the topic of black managers comes up.
Like that almost 2/3rds of clubs have actually had at least one black manager .
That of those, barely any have had any success. Chris Hughtons the obvious stand out and although currently sacked he will soon get another job.
But in the same way it is with white managers, if you flunk out in your first job, you are unlikely to get a second one.
That so many manager jobs in this country are taken by foreigners,so theres a lack of opportunity for English/ British managers altogether, never mind specifically black english managers.
Sol gets brought up a lot in the discussion and why he had to drop to such a low level to get a chance.
I think in his particular case its because he has a reputation throughout the game as being 'weird' and difficult to work with.
Stories about him abound, such as Peter Crouch's story of how at Pompey he insisted in the club masseur working on him alone for ages after training and matches when many of his team mates needed it more, and any team mate who complained being given the line " You can have him work on you when you have 70 caps for England'.
Basically most people in the game think hes an utter bellend and him being a great player back in the day doesn't make people want to work with him now.
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Post by Macduff on May 20, 2019 9:14:44 GMT 1
Danny, he lost his job because he won 3 out of 23.. not because he is black, because he ran out of ideas, so , are chairmen not allowed to sack black managers now ? Danny... This is a none issue, but you want it make it one.... WHY ? ........ he lost his job because he did.... like Powell did with us....... Stop dragging up race..because all this does is make you look racist against the white man... Erm nowhere does he say Hughton was sacked because he was black. Try reading the actual words. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 9:45:34 GMT 1
🤣🤣 Maybe what Chantelle doesn’t realise is that her husband only has his Level 2 badge, so of course there’s not much opportunity for him to work in the pro game!! Level 3 (UEFA B) is expected for Centres of Excellence and Academies. Level 4 is needed to be a manager/coach in the professional game. and the Level 5 for the EPL positions. Level 2 gets you into Football In The Community type roles...and I’m sure Emile would have a great chance of getting one of these if he applied? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 20, 2019 9:54:40 GMT 1
maybe black managers have different problems with a squad of mainly black/ethnic players?? never any mention of that side of it..
we all say it because its true, the town manager could be any race or creed as long as he can get 11 players to frame week in week out..
the 'foreign' manager syndrome went out of the window a long time ago so the black manager who is british is not an issue, Sol has started well..
the more black managers we have the more they will get sacked, its a job with some turnover.....
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Post by ram on May 20, 2019 10:04:46 GMT 1
It's same with the ladies.If you are good enough you will get job. All those complaining obviously are not. Plenty of women in top jobs.Prime minister being a good example.Top cop is a woman etc.,etc., get the qualifications,you get the jobs, its the same for everyone.
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Post by k1man999 on May 20, 2019 10:17:05 GMT 1
Let's tell city n spurs they have t sack pep n poch n put in Powell and sol Campbell. I'm sure they would be a kick off from sterling, rose ET Al saying they are not good enough their trainings crap etc.
On the flip side why aren't good white English managers/ coaches etc getting top jobs instead of overseas coaches.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 10:20:02 GMT 1
Its not about skin colour, they have to be good enough....end of story.
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Post by ACW on May 20, 2019 10:30:06 GMT 1
Considering the large numbers of black players, there is obviously an issue with so few of them becoming managers/coaches, etc. I suspect there are many reasons for this, and the fight must continue to ensure they have equality of opportunity. Barriers must be overcome, and it would be good to see more black players - and others from all ethnic backgrounds - become managers/coaches, and be judged on their abilities, not their skin colour.
That said, it does black managers, and those aspiring to be managers, no good when certain commentators play the 'race card' whenever one loses their job. Most managers - of all creeds and colours - lose their jobs. It comes with the territory. Some may think Huyton has been treated harshly, but there are plenty of managers who have lost their jobs in similar circumstances. I personally think his sacking is a little harsh, but I understand the reasons why, and I don't think race comes into it. The chairman has obviously decided Huyton has taken the club as far a he can, and that is a reasonable stance whether you agree or not. There is certainly no suggestion he has lost his job because of the colour of his skin. He is obviously a very good manager, and I would be surprised if he doesn't get another job very quickly. I think he will be in demand.
It is important to ensure equality of opportunity for all aspiring managers, black or otherwise, and we definately need to address under-representation of some groups. That said, bringing up race where there is no need does no one any good. We need to concentrate our efforts on giving opportunities to those who deserve them, not bleating on about race every time a black manager is sacked (unless there is clear reason to do so). These commentators are just undermining the cause they proclaim to champion.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 20, 2019 10:51:19 GMT 1
Its not about skin colour, they have to be good enough....end of story. Exactly. No one moans there aren’t enough English born players in the team when the team is doing well. |
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Post by Bojaj Horseman on May 20, 2019 11:02:01 GMT 1
Everyone considered Sol Campbell entitled for wanting to be hired at a decent level as a manager when he first started trying to about 10 years ago. Got his break this season, and pulled Macclesfield out of near certain relegation.
Compare that to his younger England team mates. Gerrard- hired straight to Rangers, Lampard- hired straight to Derby County, Terry- hired straight to Aston Villa as assistant with clear designs on the manager role. These are all within a couple of years of retirement at most. Maybe Campbell had a point?
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 20, 2019 11:12:35 GMT 1
Everyone considered Sol Campbell entitled for wanting to be hired at a decent level as a manager when he first started trying to about 10 years ago. Got his break this season, and pulled Macclesfield out of near certain relegation. Compare that to his younger England team mates. Gerrard- hired straight to Rangers, Lampard- hired straight to Derby County, Terry- hired straight to Aston Villa as assistant with clear designs on the manager role. These are all within a couple of years of retirement at most. Maybe Campbell had a point? It's true that some play the race card, and they then don't help everyone else at all. However, it's no worse than the usual suspects who are up in arms on the other side of the fence. A lot of the time they aren't debating the specific case, rather the high level facts. Those who always get their knickers in a twist when this is brought up might not be prejudicial themselves, but there is still definitely a passive prejudice that sees some people perceive certain demographics in a worse light (e.g. black players are good athletes, but not bright enough to be captain or manager). If you don't believe that, read some of Otium's posts! |
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Post by Tiro on May 20, 2019 11:44:43 GMT 1
Everyone considered Sol Campbell entitled for wanting to be hired at a decent level as a manager when he first started trying to about 10 years ago. Got his break this season, and pulled Macclesfield out of near certain relegation. Compare that to his younger England team mates. Gerrard- hired straight to Rangers, Lampard- hired straight to Derby County, Terry- hired straight to Aston Villa as assistant with clear designs on the manager role. These are all within a couple of years of retirement at most. Maybe Campbell had a point? But maybe it was Campbell's character, his eccentricity, arrogance and vulnerability, and rapid demise of his career that preceded him and limited his opportunities? Its been hard to take him seriously at times (Similar can be said of Tony Adams, somebody 'born to lead). I refer to events pre and post retirement, events such as, to list a few: - walking off the pitch and out of the ground at half-time during a game against West Ham, - talks of taking acting classes; - disappearing from Notts County after one game (and the ream of poor excuses that followed); - his outspoken politics; and - his bid to become Mayor of London. Whilst I also feel the Gerrard's, Lampard's and Terry's of this world do take opportunities from those perhaps more deserving who didn't have such illustrious playing careers, I do think that its was Campbell's arrogance and at times aggressiveness (see his campaign for 'Operation Black Vote') to assert himself that worked against him. Gerrard and co are media darlings who didn't involve themselves with much outside of the footballing stratosphere, they are dedicated to football - they 'play the game' and have not indicated they are disillusioned or bitten the hand that has fed them. They are not controversial. This is very different to being a player: you can perform yet not love the sport, your aspirations will be matched by your level. Yet as chairman, it is much more difficult to gift someone far more control and unmitigated exposure to the media - especially if you have concerns over their commitment and/or their temperament. Perhaps if Campbell did a little soul searching and was less keen to blame his race as the issue, he may have seen more opportunities sooner. I include a great deal of opinion and speculate of course, however one mans foray into management shouldn't be used a test-case for whether BAME persons are good managers. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 11:49:02 GMT 1
Everyone considered Sol Campbell entitled for wanting to be hired at a decent level as a manager when he first started trying to about 10 years ago. Got his break this season, and pulled Macclesfield out of near certain relegation. Compare that to his younger England team mates. Gerrard- hired straight to Rangers, Lampard- hired straight to Derby County, Terry- hired straight to Aston Villa as assistant with clear designs on the manager role. These are all within a couple of years of retirement at most. Maybe Campbell had a point? The sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions. Paul Scholes is the same age as Sol and a similar level of player for club and country. Like Sol he’s also been busy doing other stuff since retiring from playing, and only got his first chance this year, at the same level that Sol has started at...despite having some experience at Man Utd supporting Ryan Giggs on his coaching CV. Maybe the lack of high level opportunities for red haired people should be investigated...I can only think of Sean Dyche. Maybe Burnley are scared to sack him in case they’re lambasted? |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 20, 2019 12:01:51 GMT 1
Everyone considered Sol Campbell entitled for wanting to be hired at a decent level as a manager when he first started trying to about 10 years ago. Got his break this season, and pulled Macclesfield out of near certain relegation. Compare that to his younger England team mates. Gerrard- hired straight to Rangers, Lampard- hired straight to Derby County, Terry- hired straight to Aston Villa as assistant with clear designs on the manager role. These are all within a couple of years of retirement at most. Maybe Campbell had a point? But maybe it was Campbell's character, his eccentricity, arrogance and vulnerability, and rapid demise of his career that preceded him and limited his opportunities? Its been hard to take him seriously at times (Similar can be said of Tony Adams, somebody 'born to lead). I refer to events pre and post retirement, events such as, to list a few: - walking off the pitch and out of the ground at half-time during a game against West Ham, - talks of taking acting classes; - disappearing from Notts County after one game (and the ream of poor excuses that followed); - his outspoken politics; and - his bid to become Mayor of London. Whilst I also feel the Gerrard's, Lampard's and Terry's of this world do take opportunities from those perhaps more deserving who didn't have such illustrious playing careers, I do think that its was Campbell's arrogance and at times aggressiveness (see his campaign for 'Operation Black Vote') to assert himself that worked against him. Gerrard and co are media darlings who didn't involve themselves with much outside of the footballing stratosphere, they are dedicated to football - they 'play the game' and have not indicated they are disillusioned or bitten the hand that has fed them. They are not controversial. This is very different to being a player: you can perform yet not love the sport, your aspirations will be matched by your level. Yet as chairman, it is much more difficult to gift someone far more control and unmitigated exposure to the media - especially if you have concerns over their commitment and/or their temperament. Perhaps if Campbell did a little soul searching and was less keen to blame his race as the issue, he may have seen more opportunities sooner. I include a great deal of opinion and speculate of course, however one mans foray into management shouldn't be used a test-case for whether BAME persons are good managers. You've mentioned a couple of points I was going to make, mainly his very public political aspirations. He won't have realised what an impact that will have had on the decision making process for any jobs he applied for. Black Mgrs are under represented in the game, but that'll continue to be the case if every bit of the minutiae is pounced upon by the media. As others have said, it needs to start focusing on ability and not the baggage an appointment will bring. |
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Post by stevie143 on May 20, 2019 12:41:32 GMT 1
Its not about skin colour, they have to be good enough....end of story. Exactly. If Cardiff had sacked Warnock, would Age Concern be complaining it's anti pensioner? |
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Post by 28901 on May 20, 2019 12:46:42 GMT 1
Everyone considered Sol Campbell entitled for wanting to be hired at a decent level as a manager when he first started trying to about 10 years ago. Got his break this season, and pulled Macclesfield out of near certain relegation. Compare that to his younger England team mates. Gerrard- hired straight to Rangers, Lampard- hired straight to Derby County, Terry- hired straight to Aston Villa as assistant with clear designs on the manager role. These are all within a couple of years of retirement at most. Maybe Campbell had a point? But maybe it was Campbell's character, his eccentricity, arrogance and vulnerability, and rapid demise of his career that preceded him and limited his opportunities? Its been hard to take him seriously at times (Similar can be said of Tony Adams, somebody 'born to lead). I refer to events pre and post retirement, events such as, to list a few: - walking off the pitch and out of the ground at half-time during a game against West Ham, - talks of taking acting classes; - disappearing from Notts County after one game (and the ream of poor excuses that followed); - his outspoken politics; and - his bid to become Mayor of London. Whilst I also feel the Gerrard's, Lampard's and Terry's of this world do take opportunities from those perhaps more deserving who didn't have such illustrious playing careers, I do think that its was Campbell's arrogance and at times aggressiveness (see his campaign for 'Operation Black Vote') to assert himself that worked against him. Gerrard and co are media darlings who didn't involve themselves with much outside of the footballing stratosphere, they are dedicated to football - they 'play the game' and have not indicated they are disillusioned or bitten the hand that has fed them. They are not controversial. This is very different to being a player: you can perform yet not love the sport, your aspirations will be matched by your level. Yet as chairman, it is much more difficult to gift someone far more control and unmitigated exposure to the media - especially if you have concerns over their commitment and/or their temperament. Perhaps if Campbell did a little soul searching and was less keen to blame his race as the issue, he may have seen more opportunities sooner. I include a great deal of opinion and speculate of course, however one mans foray into management shouldn't be used a test-case for whether BAME persons are good managers.
Anyone talking of 'taking acting lessons' should never be employed ever again in any capacity.
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Post by Bojaj Horseman on May 20, 2019 12:54:50 GMT 1
Everyone considered Sol Campbell entitled for wanting to be hired at a decent level as a manager when he first started trying to about 10 years ago. Got his break this season, and pulled Macclesfield out of near certain relegation. Compare that to his younger England team mates. Gerrard- hired straight to Rangers, Lampard- hired straight to Derby County, Terry- hired straight to Aston Villa as assistant with clear designs on the manager role. These are all within a couple of years of retirement at most. Maybe Campbell had a point? But maybe it was Campbell's character, his eccentricity, arrogance and vulnerability, and rapid demise of his career that preceded him and limited his opportunities? Its been hard to take him seriously at times (Similar can be said of Tony Adams, somebody 'born to lead). I refer to events pre and post retirement, events such as, to list a few: - walking off the pitch and out of the ground at half-time during a game against West Ham, - talks of taking acting classes; - disappearing from Notts County after one game (and the ream of poor excuses that followed); - his outspoken politics; and - his bid to become Mayor of London. Whilst I also feel the Gerrard's, Lampard's and Terry's of this world do take opportunities from those perhaps more deserving who didn't have such illustrious playing careers, I do think that its was Campbell's arrogance and at times aggressiveness (see his campaign for 'Operation Black Vote') to assert himself that worked against him. Gerrard and co are media darlings who didn't involve themselves with much outside of the footballing stratosphere, they are dedicated to football - they 'play the game' and have not indicated they are disillusioned or bitten the hand that has fed them. They are not controversial. This is very different to being a player: you can perform yet not love the sport, your aspirations will be matched by your level. Yet as chairman, it is much more difficult to gift someone far more control and unmitigated exposure to the media - especially if you have concerns over their commitment and/or their temperament. Perhaps if Campbell did a little soul searching and was less keen to blame his race as the issue, he may have seen more opportunities sooner. I include a great deal of opinion and speculate of course, however one mans foray into management shouldn't be used a test-case for whether BAME persons are good managers. Campbell is definitely a character. There are some way more charismatic and outspoken players who made the transition to manager more easily than Campbell did however. Joey Barton walked into a job. If roles were reversed in the Ousmane Dabo incident, nobody would touch Dabo with a barge pole. Paolo di Canio's absolutely chaotic reputation and openly fascist politics precede him, yet he was also able to walk into a job. While we're on politics, Lampard has come out to bat for the tories on a few occasions without it scaring anyone off. So I'm not sure if I buy that as a reason Campbell didn't get into a job earlier, although I can see why it was brought up. |
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Post by Tiro on May 20, 2019 13:35:23 GMT 1
But maybe it was Campbell's character, his eccentricity, arrogance and vulnerability, and rapid demise of his career that preceded him and limited his opportunities? Its been hard to take him seriously at times (Similar can be said of Tony Adams, somebody 'born to lead). I refer to events pre and post retirement, events such as, to list a few: - walking off the pitch and out of the ground at half-time during a game against West Ham, - talks of taking acting classes; - disappearing from Notts County after one game (and the ream of poor excuses that followed); - his outspoken politics; and - his bid to become Mayor of London. Whilst I also feel the Gerrard's, Lampard's and Terry's of this world do take opportunities from those perhaps more deserving who didn't have such illustrious playing careers, I do think that its was Campbell's arrogance and at times aggressiveness (see his campaign for 'Operation Black Vote') to assert himself that worked against him. Gerrard and co are media darlings who didn't involve themselves with much outside of the footballing stratosphere, they are dedicated to football - they 'play the game' and have not indicated they are disillusioned or bitten the hand that has fed them. They are not controversial. This is very different to being a player: you can perform yet not love the sport, your aspirations will be matched by your level. Yet as chairman, it is much more difficult to gift someone far more control and unmitigated exposure to the media - especially if you have concerns over their commitment and/or their temperament. Perhaps if Campbell did a little soul searching and was less keen to blame his race as the issue, he may have seen more opportunities sooner. I include a great deal of opinion and speculate of course, however one mans foray into management shouldn't be used a test-case for whether BAME persons are good managers. Campbell is definitely a character. There are some way more charismatic and outspoken players who made the transition to manager more easily than Campbell did however. Joey Barton walked into a job. If roles were reversed in the Ousmane Dabo incident, nobody would touch Dabo with a barge pole. Paolo di Canio's absolutely chaotic reputation and openly fascist politics precede him, yet he was also able to walk into a job. While we're on politics, Lampard has come out to bat for the tories on a few occasions without it scaring anyone off. So I'm not sure if I buy that as a reason Campbell didn't get into a job earlier, although I can see why it was brought up. I'm not saying that having an open political affiliation automatically discounts you from consideration, and I am aware that some less than savoury individuals have made the transition into management sooner (I will refrain from saying easier as I don't know anything about Campbell's opportunities). But I don't think this enough to suggest racial bias in this instance. You do however raise a valid point: charisma gets you further in football. Add that to Campbell's melting pot and I think there's a very valid argument as to why he maybe didn't succeed earlier. I think we have to be honest however and accept that racism does exist in football, this season amongst others has highlighted this amongst fans. And post Brexit, there has been a spike in documented racially aggravated cases. So its not difficult to accept that the odds are that there are racist persons in positions of power and that they exist in football. But just like fans, this doesn't mean that every person of power is racist and therefore I don't believe that the majority of clubs are racist to the extent that will not employ a BAME manager. FYI - it is my opinion that Vincent Kompany will never have this issue. Though he may turn out to be a shit manager. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 20, 2019 13:47:09 GMT 1
Two years back there were 7 black/mixed race managers. 7 from 92 clubs so thats 8%.
Considering black and mixed race make up 5.5% of the population they were over-represented.
People see what they want to see.
No-one says anything when all 8 finalists in the 100 metres are black.
A non-story.
Wasn't Hope powell the England manager?
Will Danny Rose support Chinese managers seeing as there are not any?
Pathetic.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 20, 2019 13:59:10 GMT 1
Campbell is definitely a character. There are some way more charismatic and outspoken players who made the transition to manager more easily than Campbell did however. Joey Barton walked into a job. If roles were reversed in the Ousmane Dabo incident, nobody would touch Dabo with a barge pole. Paolo di Canio's absolutely chaotic reputation and openly fascist politics precede him, yet he was also able to walk into a job. While we're on politics, Lampard has come out to bat for the tories on a few occasions without it scaring anyone off. So I'm not sure if I buy that as a reason Campbell didn't get into a job earlier, although I can see why it was brought up. I'm not saying that having an open political affiliation automatically discounts you from consideration, and I am aware that some less than savoury individuals have made the transition into management sooner (I will refrain from saying easier as I don't know anything about Campbell's opportunities). But I don't think this enough to suggest racial bias in this instance. You do however raise a valid point: charisma gets you further in football. Add that to Campbell's melting pot and I think there's a very valid argument as to why he maybe didn't succeed earlier. I think we have to be honest however and accept that racism does exist in football, this season amongst others has highlighted this amongst fans. And Brexit has shown us that racism is on the rise in society. So its not difficult to accept that the odds are that there are racist persons in positions of power and that they exist in football. But just like fans, this doesn't mean that every person of power is racist and therefore I don't believe that the majority of clubs are racist to the extent that will not employ a BAME manager. FYI - it is my opinion that Vincent Kompany will never have this issue. Though he may turn out to be a shit manager. Has it? You dropped that in like its a fact. How has brexit shown that? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 20, 2019 14:01:00 GMT 1
Its always been there. Its just given some folk the confidence to liberate their "inner Moseley"
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Post by Captainslapper on May 20, 2019 14:04:22 GMT 1
Its always been there. Its just given some folk the confidence to liberate their "inner Moseley" Of course its always been there. In every race and section of society. |
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Post by Bojaj Horseman on May 20, 2019 14:57:26 GMT 1
Two years back there were 7 black/mixed race managers. 7 from 92 clubs so thats 8%. Considering black and mixed race make up 5.5% of the population they were over-represented. People see what they want to see. No-one says anything when all 8 finalists in the 100 metres are black. A non-story. Wasn't Hope powell the England manager? Will Danny Rose support Chinese managers seeing as there are not any? Pathetic. General population statistics aren't relevant here as the black population of the UK is over-represented in playing football, but under-represented in managing. When's the two professions are so interlinked it's obviously going to be looked into. Wrt 100 metre races, do you think there's a secret cabal of white blokes who can do it in 9 seconds? If not, it's simply a case of the 8 fastest runners being black with nothing else to it. I don't know enough about women's football to say anything about Hope Powell, although I suspect you don't either given your previous posts on the subject. What other roles do you think Danny Rose should've assumed when he decided to speak? |
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Post by hd2 on May 20, 2019 15:57:31 GMT 1
Does Chantelle basically say he hasn’t applied for jobs and then wonders why he hasn’t got any of these jobs he’s not applied for?  And and also states ‘if more roles were open to BAME candidates.’ Surely every role is open to everyone who’s suitably qualified. Without applying though her husband and anyone else who doesn’t apply ain’t gunna get the job.  |
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Post by Tinpot on May 20, 2019 16:21:50 GMT 1
But maybe it was Campbell's character, his eccentricity, arrogance and vulnerability, and rapid demise of his career that preceded him and limited his opportunities? Its been hard to take him seriously at times (Similar can be said of Tony Adams, somebody 'born to lead). I refer to events pre and post retirement, events such as, to list a few: - walking off the pitch and out of the ground at half-time during a game against West Ham, - talks of taking acting classes; - disappearing from Notts County after one game (and the ream of poor excuses that followed); - his outspoken politics; and - his bid to become Mayor of London. Whilst I also feel the Gerrard's, Lampard's and Terry's of this world do take opportunities from those perhaps more deserving who didn't have such illustrious playing careers, I do think that its was Campbell's arrogance and at times aggressiveness (see his campaign for 'Operation Black Vote') to assert himself that worked against him. Gerrard and co are media darlings who didn't involve themselves with much outside of the footballing stratosphere, they are dedicated to football - they 'play the game' and have not indicated they are disillusioned or bitten the hand that has fed them. They are not controversial. This is very different to being a player: you can perform yet not love the sport, your aspirations will be matched by your level. Yet as chairman, it is much more difficult to gift someone far more control and unmitigated exposure to the media - especially if you have concerns over their commitment and/or their temperament. Perhaps if Campbell did a little soul searching and was less keen to blame his race as the issue, he may have seen more opportunities sooner. I include a great deal of opinion and speculate of course, however one mans foray into management shouldn't be used a test-case for whether BAME persons are good managers.
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