willo
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Post by willo on Aug 5, 2019 22:28:02 GMT 1
Oh well, there’s always next season.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 5, 2019 22:28:15 GMT 1
Town came down from the premier league with players who failed badly at almost every position ,and low and behold most of that same old shite was on the field tonight with most failing just as bad even at a low league level..
Can someone ask the manager what the f--ks going on
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Post by E4b on Aug 5, 2019 22:28:21 GMT 1
Derby didn’t need to get out of first gear tonight, didn’t need to break sweat. It was men against boys, fucking dire Makes me wonder how much shit Hamer would have got if he had gifted Lawrence the first goal in the manner our keeper did tonight! Firstly it was Elphick that fked up. The keeper did well with the punch but none of our players covered our own line. Elphick was pretty dire for the first 45 minutes. Nearly as dire as Bacuna. We looked a yard off the pace. When we went on the front foot we looked ok but once again with no end product at all. Still it's the first game of the season. Rather produce that dross now than later.
Keeper headed it to him and left himself in no mans land.
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Post by smax on Aug 5, 2019 22:29:09 GMT 1
Something wrong here. It’s hard to warm to jan. He talks to the press like he’s Mourhino . My guess is he talks to the players the same way. When Mooy can’t be arsed you know something is wrong.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 5, 2019 22:29:34 GMT 1
Derby didn’t need to get out of first gear tonight, didn’t need to break sweat. It was men against boys, fucking dire Makes me wonder how much shit Hamer would have got if he had gifted Lawrence the first goal in the manner our keeper did tonight! Just stop! Your attempt to look at anybody but Elphick re. blame for the first goal loses any shred of credibility in your argument! Grabara's top save from Waghorn would have probably been helped in by Hamer's paper wrists. I must have missed that one in the medical news? The paper transplant to replace the gelatine...
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 5, 2019 22:30:13 GMT 1
Who watches someone like Elphick and thinks it would be a good idea to sign him. He looks slower than Hudson did.
If we wanted a leader then we should have just got Hefele back to be cheerleader
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 5, 2019 22:30:36 GMT 1
Pretty fair summary to me! Schindler and Kachunga should have done better with their crucial chances and we lost by a single goal. We didn't deserve anything from the game. We may have missed chances, but we were quite clearly 2nd best. Opinions can obviously differ but if we'd have got a late equaliser I wouldn't have felt it was undeserved. Derby showed zero ambition in the second half but we still had 2 great chances and had one of those chances gone in we'd have been level and the team with the momentum.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 5, 2019 22:31:38 GMT 1
Haven’t read any comments on here yet but I didn’t see any positives whatsoever in that. Second best by a distance, shocking passing, weak in the tackle and weak in the head. Not one player can be pleased with their performance tonight, in fact, most of them were shocking. There still seems to be a malaise in the side. Where’s the fight, where’s the intelligence?
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Post by E4b on Aug 5, 2019 22:32:00 GMT 1
Derby didn’t need to get out of first gear tonight, didn’t need to break sweat. It was men against boys, fucking dire Makes me wonder how much shit Hamer would have got if he had gifted Lawrence the first goal in the manner our keeper did tonight! Just stop! Your attempt to look at anybody but Elphick re. blame for the first goal loses any shred of credibility in your argument! Grabara's top save from Waghorn would have probably been helped in by Hamer's paper wrists. Yes he did well to save that shot, he saved 1 out of 3 shots on target.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 5, 2019 22:32:43 GMT 1
Something wrong here. It’s hard to warm to jan. He talks to the press like he’s Mourhino . My guess is he talks to the players the same way. When Mooy can’t be arsed you know something is wrong. mooy is great in a holding midfield, however this 4-3-3 is imo too attacking for players of mooys (lack of) pace. Also, did anyone else notice we were playing zonal and not matching them man for man?
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Post by ponteterrier on Aug 5, 2019 22:33:06 GMT 1
Firstly it was Elphick that fked up. The keeper did well with the punch but none of our players covered our own line. Elphick was pretty dire for the first 45 minutes. Nearly as dire as Bacuna. We looked a yard off the pace. When we went on the front foot we looked ok but once again with no end product at all. Still it's the first game of the season. Rather produce that dross now than later.
Keeper headed it to him and left himself in no mans land. What situation are you talking about? If its about the first goal, that was a situation purely of Elphicks doing. He seemingly tried to be clever and he paid the the price for the balls up, or rather the club did. If he was wasn't sure about he the ball coming at him, he could have just headed out for the throw in, but he didn't.
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Post by space hardware on Aug 5, 2019 22:34:56 GMT 1
Apart from that he was immense 😂😂 You want to scapegoat Hogg what about the others then Mooy Bacuna Elphick Haderjonaj did they play better I don't give a fuck about the others, I was taking issue with someone describing Hogg's performance as "immense" when it clearly was nothing of the sort.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 5, 2019 22:35:13 GMT 1
Who watches someone like Elphick and thinks it would be a good idea to sign him. He looks slower than Hudson did. If we wanted a leader then we should have just got Hefele back to be cheerleader To be fair there was no sign of Elphick's culpability at all in preseason - Is it unfair/unwise to hope that it was just a single shocking debut. I have my fingers crossed
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Post by Htfc1987 on Aug 5, 2019 22:36:36 GMT 1
I don’t know what game some people watched but Hogg for me was crap today.
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Aug 5, 2019 22:36:42 GMT 1
Still wondering where the positive is in this response? If the most we can grasp is a 15 minute period at home, I fear for us. 3+ seasons we’ve been inept going forward, you would think we might concentrate on that. Flo is useless. Kongolo is a CB. Echo. Echo. Echoooo. Bloody inept going forward in a promotion season - give yer head a bloody good shake man! As for the poor crosses it would take an exceptional cross to pick out 1 Town man against 3 or 4 defenders - get more folk in the box and our crossing would immediately look different. That said I think Flo and Kongolo should look to attempt to beat their man on the inside and draw other defenders towards them rather than always swinging in it hopefully. Minus goal difference would suggest we were inept, yes.
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Post by E4b on Aug 5, 2019 22:37:30 GMT 1
Keeper headed it to him and left himself in no mans land. What situation are you talking about? If its about the first goal, that was a situation purely of Elphicks doing. He seemingly tried to be clever and he paid the the price for the balls up, or rather the club did. If he was wasn't sure about he the ball coming at him, he could have just headed out for the throw in, but he didn't. Yes Elphick made the initial mistake but what I am trying to get across here is that if Hamer had weakly committed himself, like this new keeper did, he would have been slaughtered for it. I really hope this keeper turns out to be a good one because we’re going to need him to play out of his skin with the joke of a defence we’ve got.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Aug 5, 2019 22:37:33 GMT 1
Who watches someone like Elphick and thinks it would be a good idea to sign him. He looks slower than Hudson did. If we wanted a leader then we should have just got Hefele back to be cheerleader Sometimes it is just a case of who is available/released/free
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 5, 2019 22:37:45 GMT 1
Who watches someone like Elphick and thinks it would be a good idea to sign him. He looks slower than Hudson did. If we wanted a leader then we should have just got Hefele back to be cheerleader To be fair there was no sign of Elphick's culpability at all in preseason - Is it unfair/unwise to hope that it was just a single shocking debut. I have my fingers crossed I don't think he's going to get any quicker. Waghorn is bang average at this level and gave Elphick a torrid time
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Post by arry11 on Aug 5, 2019 22:37:57 GMT 1
Just stop! Your attempt to look at anybody but Elphick re. blame for the first goal loses any shred of credibility in your argument! Grabara's top save from Waghorn would have probably been helped in by Hamer's paper wrists. Yes he did well to save that shot, he saved 1 out of 3 shots on target. A bit harsh on him not it fault on both goals if Elphick does his job we would not be talking about him
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Post by Bigcolquaner on Aug 5, 2019 22:38:24 GMT 1
Which is your favourite town attacking move? Is it:
A) the one where we pass out to Flo, back to Mooy, into Pritchard, back to Mooy, take 5 touches, out to Flo, and cross to the first man.
Or
B) .. That's it really.
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Post by space hardware on Aug 5, 2019 22:38:58 GMT 1
To be fair there was no sign of Elphick's culpability at all in preseason - Is it unfair/unwise to hope that it was just a single shocking debut. I have my fingers crossed I don't think he's going to get any quicker. Waghorn is bang average at this level and gave Elphick a torrid time I don't think Waghorn even qualifies as average at this level. Worrying.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Aug 5, 2019 22:39:01 GMT 1
Just stop! Your attempt to look at anybody but Elphick re. blame for the first goal loses any shred of credibility in your argument! Grabara's top save from Waghorn would have probably been helped in by Hamer's paper wrists. Yes he did well to save that shot, he saved 1 out of 3 shots on target. Stevie....get a grip. I think he was our best player.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 5, 2019 22:39:40 GMT 1
Elf phick is the new disco Kay, absolute shocker tonight, cost us both goals, points all the time.
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Post by E4b on Aug 5, 2019 22:39:52 GMT 1
Yes he did well to save that shot, he saved 1 out of 3 shots on target. A bit harsh on him not it fault on both goals if Elphick does his job we would not be talking about him I really hope he comes good.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 5, 2019 22:40:49 GMT 1
Bloody inept going forward in a promotion season - give yer head a bloody good shake man! As for the poor crosses it would take an exceptional cross to pick out 1 Town man against 3 or 4 defenders - get more folk in the box and our crossing would immediately look different. That said I think Flo and Kongolo should look to attempt to beat their man on the inside and draw other defenders towards them rather than always swinging in it hopefully. Minus goal difference would suggest we were inept, yes. Minus goal difference means we had several heavy defeats and yet still 25 wins, most by a single goal - which means my friend that you are talking out of your 'arris!
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Post by Stiggy on Aug 5, 2019 22:40:59 GMT 1
Firstly it was Elphick that fked up. The keeper did well with the punch but none of our players covered our own line. Elphick was pretty dire for the first 45 minutes. Nearly as dire as Bacuna. We looked a yard off the pace. When we went on the front foot we looked ok but once again with no end product at all. Still it's the first game of the season. Rather produce that dross now than later.
Keeper headed it to him and left himself in no mans land. Keeper was already in no mans land thanks to the Elphicks error, he had no option but to head it.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 5, 2019 22:41:18 GMT 1
Which is your favourite town attacking move? Is it: A) the one where we pass out to Flo, back to Mooy, into Pritchard, back to Mooy, take 5 touches, out to Flo, and cross to the first man. Or B) .. That's it really.
someone pass this onto the town management as it is spot on.
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Post by E4b on Aug 5, 2019 22:41:47 GMT 1
Yes he did well to save that shot, he saved 1 out of 3 shots on target. Stevie....get a grip. I think he was our best player. Pritchard was our only player tonight although Mooy pulled his finger out in second half.
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Post by ACW on Aug 5, 2019 22:42:01 GMT 1
Bloody inept going forward in a promotion season - give yer head a bloody good shake man! As for the poor crosses it would take an exceptional cross to pick out 1 Town man against 3 or 4 defenders - get more folk in the box and our crossing would immediately look different. That said I think Flo and Kongolo should look to attempt to beat their man on the inside and draw other defenders towards them rather than always swinging in it hopefully. Minus goal difference would suggest we were inept, yes. 25 league wins and 81 points suggests you're talking shite.
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Post by Bigcolquaner on Aug 5, 2019 22:43:04 GMT 1
Jan says we're taking the positives out of tonight. I presume he's talking about the hedges being cut around the stadium.
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