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Post by E4b on Aug 11, 2019 13:30:58 GMT 1
Danny Ward or Colin Quaner Chips? Come on, make your choice! I'll go for the neither option ta . Think we all know what you really mean 😉
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 11, 2019 13:53:02 GMT 1
I'll go for the neither option ta . Think we all know what you really mean 😉 That I don't rate either particularly highly? Yeah well spotted sherlock
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Post by willo on Aug 11, 2019 14:08:07 GMT 1
Slightly disappointed that we conceded so late but would have taken 1-1 before kick off. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next two games. The Carabao Cup is hardly a priority but I hope Siewert goes for it. Dean always talked about the importance of a cup run for the finances of the club but, while I wouldn’t say this is an easy win or one we should take for granted, it could be a way to get a much needed win on the board. Hopefully, it will give the team a bit of confidence for the Fulham game but Siewert needs two wins as welll. It seems like an awful long time since we managed to bump beyond the 2nd round of the League (Carabao) Cup and we’re due an upturn in fortune. Whilst not a priority, I want & expect us to beat Lincoln although anything is possible with us presently & there could easily be an upset coming our way. A defeat in whatever manner will only hasten Jan closer to the exit door.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 11, 2019 14:11:29 GMT 1
Slightly disappointed that we conceded so late but would have taken 1-1 before kick off. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next two games. The Carabao Cup is hardly a priority but I hope Siewert goes for it. Dean always talked about the importance of a cup run for the finances of the club but, while I wouldn’t say this is an easy win or one we should take for granted, it could be a way to get a much needed win on the board. Hopefully, it will give the team a bit of confidence for the Fulham game but Siewert needs two wins as welll. It seems like an awful long time since we managed to bump beyond the 2nd round of the League (Carabao) Cup and we’re due an upturn in fortune. Whilst not a priority, I want & expect us to beat Lincoln although anything is possible with us presently & there could easily be an upset coming our way. A defeat in whatever manner will only hasten Jan closer to the exit door. Really ! Top of league one Thank god i wont be watching
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Post by E4b on Aug 11, 2019 14:17:10 GMT 1
Think we all know what you really mean 😉 That I don't rate either particularly highly? Yeah well spotted sherlock Come on, just be honest Chip, no need to be embarrassed about it, we can all get it wrong sometimes can’t we? How’s your old pal Matmour doing these days? Is he at Real Madrid now?
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Post by willo on Aug 11, 2019 14:52:40 GMT 1
It seems like an awful long time since we managed to bump beyond the 2nd round of the League (Carabao) Cup and we’re due an upturn in fortune. Whilst not a priority, I want & expect us to beat Lincoln although anything is possible with us presently & there could easily be an upset coming our way. A defeat in whatever manner will only hasten Jan closer to the exit door. Really ! Top of league one Thank god i wont be watching Ok Nick, maybe I wrote more in hope of a win than anything else but outside of Reading, Lincoln City at home is our best chance of a win, at least on paper.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 11, 2019 16:02:16 GMT 1
At the game yesterday there were a group of old town fans who clearly weren't happy with anyone who voiced their concerns or even sang 'there's only one Dean Hoyle' as this was seen to be against Phil. References to premier league fans and that they should Fxck off etc. Later they were singing Jan siewerts blue & white army...
Half of them were shit faced so hopefully they watch the game today and see how shit we were in the second half in particular.
I really don't understand why people get so angry just because others have a different opinion.
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Post by tvor on Aug 11, 2019 16:06:44 GMT 1
Slightly disappointed that we conceded so late but would have taken 1-1 before kick off. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next two games. The Carabao Cup is hardly a priority but I hope Siewert goes for it. Dean always talked about the importance of a cup run for the finances of the club but, while I wouldn’t say this is an easy win or one we should take for granted, it could be a way to get a much needed win on the board. Hopefully, it will give the team a bit of confidence for the Fulham game but Siewert needs two wins as welll. It seems like an awful long time since we managed to bump beyond the 2nd round of the League (Carabao) Cup and we’re due an upturn in fortune. Whilst not a priority, I want & expect us to beat Lincoln although anything is possible with us presently & there could easily be an upset coming our way. A defeat in whatever manner will only hasten Jan closer to the exit door. Agree with all that. I hate the phrase ‘must win’ cos in the bigger scheme of things (league table respectability) this isn’t for the club. For Jan it probably is.
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Post by Giggity on Aug 11, 2019 16:16:51 GMT 1
Am I the only one that thinks we didnt play too bad today?? A draw away is always a good one and QPR are a good side! The players are clearly massively low on confidence so all in all not a bad result. We have no given right to beat anyone. It's a very tough league. There was a promising spell of about 15min in the 2nd half where we looked mildly threatening I thought, but apart from that we presented very little. However, those that are claiming we were 'outclassed' or 'played off the Park' by QPR have clearly had a few too many shandies today. They were average at best and that isn't even up for debate. I am interested to know what 15 minute spell that was. I can't even remember a promising 15 second spell.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 11, 2019 16:24:09 GMT 1
Am I the only one that thinks we didnt play too bad today?? A draw away is always a good one and QPR are a good side! The players are clearly massively low on confidence so all in all not a bad result. We have no given right to beat anyone. It's a very tough league. No, you are not the only one. We were not as bad as some are making out. Let the drama queens crack on.
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Post by linson on Aug 11, 2019 16:27:43 GMT 1
I missed most of the game yesterday, however I did catch the moment Quaner came on... It sounded like booin, anyone at the game know why?
We seem to permanently play with 9 men. Let's face it, none of our wingers seem to do anything.
We need to be sensible with Diakhaby, he is our Walcott - a sprinting headless chicken. Bring him on with 15 minutes to go to run at tired defences is the only real option.
I just don't understand what RVLP and Sobhi have done to have been given such a cold shoulder in the face of such abject failures we have in Quaner Kachunga and Diakhaby.
Mbenza should be getting more game time, I've had enough of watchin Diakhaby Kachunga and Quaner already.
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Post by canterburyterrier on Aug 11, 2019 17:06:42 GMT 1
I missed most of the game yesterday, however I did catch the moment Quaner came on... It sounded like booin, anyone at the game know why? We seem to permanently play with 9 men. Let's face it, none of our wingers seem to do anything. We need to be sensible with Diakhaby, he is our Walcott - a sprinting headless chicken. Bring him on with 15 minutes to go to run at tired defences is the only real option. I just don't understand what RVLP and Sobhi have done to have been given such a cold shoulder in the face of such abject failures we have in Quaner Kachunga and Diakhaby. Mbenza should be getting more game time, I've had enough of watchin Diakhaby Kachunga and Quaner already. Diakhaby took his time going off. QPR fans wanted him to get a move on. He appeared to walk the width of the pitch in contravention of the new substitution rule. Not sure who they were angriest with Diakhaby or the referee.
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Post by detox on Aug 11, 2019 17:37:00 GMT 1
we still seem to be playing subbuteo football, ie only the guy with the ball is moving...this standstill passing is tedious and i thought we were going to be more dynamic this season....maybe in a week or two but do the lads (and us) need a win, and soon...
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Post by lorddriffield on Aug 11, 2019 19:05:05 GMT 1
The game's over. Closure. Move on. Breathe. The future starts here and now. Forward comrades!
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 11, 2019 22:35:15 GMT 1
One thing is for sure no one at the club can question the support the team got at QPR. All clapped off at the end, singing throughout.
The fans have been brilliant through a nightmare last 12 months... Over to the club and manager now to sort things out.
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Post by melbourneterrier on Aug 11, 2019 22:48:11 GMT 1
I thought we did quite well in that first half. Bacuna and Pritchard with a couple of decent long range shots. Some good link up play. O'Brien did alright on debut.
Second half was more of a struggle to watch, however they could only score off a set piece (mind you, we could only score from a pen). Not sure what Quaner was doing then either, he went for the ball but missed completely. Draw is a fair result on that performance, and I don't fully understand the doom and gloom on here over it.
Onwards we go
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Post by bleaklow on Aug 11, 2019 23:24:12 GMT 1
I was sitting in the South Africa Road stand with QPR supporters. At half-time I thought we'd a good chance of winning. But after we scored the penalty, we gave the opposition the freedom of the borough by allowing them to attack at will down the right wing. Pressing high was there non, and we sat back which was a disgrace. We signed Charlton's best player, yet they're 5 points ahead of us after two games, and we've scored zilch goals from open play with players who have Premier League experience compared with Charlton's who've just come up from League 1. What does that tell us about our management? And Diakhaby hasn't a clue how to defend or how to close people down.
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Post by greyarea on Aug 12, 2019 0:57:27 GMT 1
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Post by greyarea on Aug 12, 2019 2:34:45 GMT 1
After rewatching the 1st half. I Find myself agreeing with Steven Chicken of the examiner: defensively Town looked organised and solid. Elphick, Schindler and Kongolo (when needed) took care of Hugill, while we broke well on the counter. After 30mins Town pushed up and took control of the game. Things changed after Bacuna's injury. In truth the game was 50/50. The link between the 4-3 defensive block and the attacking 3 counter players need work. Onto the 2nd half.
Onto the 2nd half.
Interesting that the Town goal 47mins, goes Garabara to Elphick to Haderjonaj to Grant with a beautiful touch to pick Kachunga in on goal resulting in a penalty. Really quite dynamic.
Town were strong and creative for the nwxt 5 mins but then began to sit back too much and invite pressure on. I agree with Steven Chicken from the Examiner; the lack of cohesion between the centre 3 and the defensive 4 was leading to this.
(EDIT-picking up the final 20mins as fell asleep)
Kachunga on for Bacuna definitely led to Pritchard coming central and town playing a forma 4231. Town also not having much control from about 75 mins, QPR just lobbing forward bombs in.
They got lucky with the free kick being given and Hall had the run on Quaner. Mistake by Collin.
Final 10 mins was what you'd expect the home side trying to force an opening but not much quality to it, Town looked pretty solid still, gave a few corners away but it was preventing Hugill coming in on headers. Town not too much cohesion when having the ball, mainly long goal kicks and a bit sloppy in possession although Kachunga had a nice drive into QPR's box.
Final thoughts:
Much against the views on the board and elsewhere, on 2nd watching Flo Hadergjonaj had a very solid and decent game. a few misplaced passes but decent overall.
Towns shape and defending were good, looking to step up to cut out passing options rather than high pressing. There was decent communication and spacing between players. It looked organised (surprising to many I know). Huddersfield hold a shape and then 'fight' for a ball as it enter s trigger zone. This is just past halfway. We just messed up defending 1 corner
Downsides: How the centre 3 support the attacking 3 on breaks needs work. All that interplay is not happening at present. I am going to use the cliche of build the foundations first then the walls and finally the roof.
On 2nd viewing it was an even contest, a good away point, with plenty to work to develop the attacking support play needing priority.
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 12, 2019 7:16:10 GMT 1
After rewatching the 1st half. I Find myself agreeing with Steven Chicken of the examiner: defensively Town looked organised and solid. Elphick, Schindler and Kongolo (when needed) took care of Hugill, while we broke well on the counter. After 30mins Town pushed up and took control of the game. Things changed after Bacuna's injury. In truth the game was 50/50. The link between the 4-3 defensive block and the attacking 3 counter players need work. Onto the 2nd half. Onto the 2nd half. Interesting that the Town goal 47mins, goes Garabara to Elphick to Haderjonaj to Grant with a beautiful touch to pick Kachunga in on goal resulting in a penalty. Really quite dynamic. Town were strong and creative for the nwxt 5 mins but then began to sit back too much and invite pressure on. I agree with Steven Chicken from the Examiner; the lack of cohesion between the centre 3 and the defensive 4 was leading to this. Thanks, saves me having to go through the pain. Like the new guy at the Examiner. I actually read the Town links online again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 8:02:49 GMT 1
At the game yesterday there were a group of old town fans who clearly weren't happy with anyone who voiced their concerns or even sang 'there's only one Dean Hoyle' as this was seen to be against Phil. References to premier league fans and that they should Fxck off etc. Later they were singing Jan siewerts blue & white army... Half of them were shit faced so hopefully they watch the game today and see how shit we were in the second half in particular. I really don't understand why people get so angry just because others have a different opinion. I was far from 'shit faced' and wasn't with that group, but at a time when the club, which obviously includes Siewert and Hodgkinson has asked for and need our support more than ever you don't get why they got upset? I must add i'm not angry at all, just embarrassed at the seeming lack of support by what I consider a vocal minority at the game. I don't need to watch that second half again I know what happened.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 12, 2019 9:04:41 GMT 1
That’s the type of utter crap we have to put up with on here. 5 shots on target yet you claim a man of ours would let in 6 Yep. Even Hamer's not so shit that he could let in 6 goals in from 5 shots. Ooh I don't know..............🤣
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Post by atowninessex on Aug 13, 2019 8:12:50 GMT 1
has anyone seen a replay of diakhaby booking in the first minute , should it have been a pen or was a booking correct couldn't tell from the other end of the pitch !
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 13, 2019 8:27:37 GMT 1
has anyone seen a replay of diakhaby booking in the first minute , should it have been a pen or was a booking correct couldn't tell from the other end of the pitch ! Booking was correct, he dived.
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