The day the club gave up

[dugnet]

Aug 8, 2019 15:14:32 GMT 1 otium (EPBS) said:

"No limits"..."Believe"..."Terrier identity".
Going up was a fluke.
The club struggled to adapt.
One only has to look at how inept we were with signings, shirt production and delivery and hospitality.
OK, a huge step up and Sean himself said he was on a "steep learning curve".
Sponsors got in cheaply, players were signed loosely and backroom staff were out of their depth.
It needed a couple of faces who had been there and done it.
2 years in the Prem should have created a stronger core structure....it seems it was built on sand.
Staying up is easier than going up. Preparing for going up is a damn sight easier after you have just come down (the yo-yo effect).
Another poor season and it will all have been like rice sack with a hole in it.
Now is/was the time. It may never come around again.
I will always love the club, i would go if we were non-league....i "believe" whatever.

Now we haven't always agreed but that is, sadly, accurate (I would only argue that going up was hard earned and worked for, but definitely unlikely).

[alex]

Reporter, 'well Swiss Phil, how does it feel to be the new owner of HTFC?'

Swiss Phil, ' Owing HTFC is like making love to a beautiful woman. First you tell the fans how great they are, you tell them how long you have fancied HTFC, and how much you love it. Then you promise them every thing, woo them and charm them. Then you F*ck it and take all its money'.

[specialun]

Aug 8, 2019 12:29:13 GMT 1 johnnyx said:

I remember coming back on the train from Chelsea thinking this is it, we have made it. Dean had said at a Q & A that if we stayed up we had a real chance to take the club forward. We needed 2 or 3 real quality players and there was no reason why we couldn't stay up with ease. So what happened, the Chairman, Manager and players thought how the hell did we do that, we'll never do that again. 
I honestly don't think they meant to give up, they just did. 
When they brought out "A moment in time" my mate said "that means that the club thinks that the first year in the prem was something that is never likely to happen again". He was spot on, and the attitude of the club from then on has proved him right.
But why did it need to be?
Could the club be forgiven for not preparing for promotion - yes.
Could the club be forgiven for not preparing to stay up - maybe but not really.
Can the club be forgiven for not preparing for the championship - emphatically no.
Recruitment of players and senior staff has been the downfall, we have replaced the best we have had i my lifetime with chancers;
Dean Hoyle - Swiss Phil ( Apologies if you've not seen the Fast Show)
David Wagner - The PE Teacher
Christoph Bhuler - Some guy who's taught netball to a reasonable level
I hope i'm proved wrong and we show some fight and ambition, but i can't see it. #We had limits

Football decisions by the club have been poor since Stuart Webber left

6 months to appoint Sporting Directors (3 times) who last 6 months (the last 2)

Last season we needed 2 real quality attacking players

We spent a net £5m and a loan fee to improve the worst attacking options in the league a ridiculous

I expected more than a small mentality from the Board

We had the chance of a lifetime and choked

The negative, pessimistic, scared approach resulted in relegation... and this shambles now

Wagner overachieved 3 seasons (I include to the end of November this season) and the Board believed the extraordinary was the ordinary

I want to understand

We ran a sale process and sold it to a man who is Hoyle’s mate

Hoyle’s mate who makes clear he didn’t approach the club, Hoyle approached him - Who make big statements with nothing to suppprt it

I’d like to understand how many parties were approached, how many put in offers and what the basis of the offers

Did the statutory directors of the club meet their statutory duties in the sale

What are the terms of the sale

Why Hoyle has a security charge

Which Pure businesses are the successful / profitable companies Hodgkinson refers to

Why the owner of a legal firm did not know the rule about you participants betting in football

Why did the fit and proper test take as long as it did

Then this year

Fans on here deluded with positivity thinking we’d be near the top 6 (beyond me)

We sign players from german 4-8th tier, league 2 and conference

We say 1 in 1 out ... then we sell £20m of players and spend feck all

We needed a left back and centre mid - We sell our best player

Sorry loan him (?!?) - We won’t fire sale....

You can’t believe a word this new owner says

Not a shock to lose him so where is the replacement

Does Hoyle seriously think this is the best option for us?

Board of Directors - How the heck have you managed to screw this up so ridiculously badly?!

[drewden]

After reading a lot of posts, and different threads, the consensus is that the club is going down the pan.

There is no jigsaw to make a picture, the pieces are in a mess, I was being still confident after the defeat, but the more my instincts kick in, the more I am dreading something disastrous is happening behind the scenes.

Really hope not, things do not seem to be flowing as they should be.

[Million Dollar Babies]

I think you'll find the day the club gave up was when Wagner wrote off the first two games of last season publicly and set the tone for the next 12 months

[terriers321]

Aug 8, 2019 13:57:02 GMT 1 Jack said:

I still maintain that the turning point (on the pitch at least) was the Mounie sending off when we were leading vs Brighton.

I maintain we got relegated because we were consistently shit.