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Post by royrace on Aug 18, 2019 9:10:57 GMT 1
Based on no evidence whatsoever I called bullshit on that explanation. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards To be fair Roy, I suspect mids may actually be basing his theory on some evidence Well it's more or less word for word what was said at the q and a so maybe he is I still think it's bollocks. Fwiw I don't expect to be told the truth about lots of goings on at the club and as fans nor should we be. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 9:11:53 GMT 1
The story went that JS wanted Bell in the first place, but because he didn't want to leave his managing job with the Republic of Ireland at that time he went for his second choice in Winkler. PH asked JS in the summer was there anything he would like in order to improve the set up, JS still thought Colin Bell would make a better fit as his right hand man. This time he got his man. Not exactly fair on AW however it’s explained - no doubting in my mind that there’s double standards in terms of expecting loyalty for JS when he threw his assistant under the bus because he wanted CB all along It’s a dog eat dog business and JS also played that game IMO Ultimately it's a sorry tale from start to finish . 7 months that will be looked on in years to come with total embarrassment . "The Siewert era" . The era when the club shot itself in the foot. Who knows whether we will.come back from this act of folly
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 9:12:11 GMT 1
Did not Oggy say that HE had heard that win or lose against Fulham he was out. Nope
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 18, 2019 9:16:27 GMT 1
Not exactly fair on AW however it’s explained - no doubting in my mind that there’s double standards in terms of expecting loyalty for JS when he threw his assistant under the bus because he wanted CB all along It’s a dog eat dog business and JS also played that game IMO Ultimately it's a sorry tale from start to finish . 7 months that will be looked on in years to come with total embarrassment . "The Siewert era" . The era when the club shot itself in the foot. Who knows whether we will.come back from this act of folly We’ll bounce back eventually but I think most people have quickly had to readjust there expectations for the season Personally I was hoping for a top eight/ top ten finish (hoping for a tilt at the play offs). Now I’m expecting us to end about 16th to 18th (stay clear of the relegation scrap) ... a lot of change in just two weeks
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 9:17:43 GMT 1
To be fair Roy, I suspect mids may actually be basing his theory on some evidence Well it's more or less word for word what was said at the q and a so maybe he is I still think it's bollocks. Fwiw I don't expect to be told the truth about lots of goings on at the club and as fans nor should we be. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards I agree. We get fed bullshit from the club from time to time . We even got fed bullshit from .. gasp... Dean Hoyle from time to time . And you're right. We shouldn't be told everything, they have got a club to run and many people to keep happy and on side. The problem I have though Roy is that people start making up crap off the top of their heads. It feels like they are actively wanting to undermine and erode something which they would purport to like /love. Without any foundation but just based on uninformed guesswork I find that really really weird. But then again I do remember you saying woodlands fish n chips were better than compos ;-)
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 9:24:17 GMT 1
Ultimately it's a sorry tale from start to finish . 7 months that will be looked on in years to come with total embarrassment . "The Siewert era" . The era when the club shot itself in the foot. Who knows whether we will.come back from this act of folly We’ll bounce back eventually but I think most people have quickly had to readjust there expectations for the season Personally I was hoping for a top eight/ top ten finish (hoping for a tilt at the play offs). Now I’m expecting us to end about 16th to 18th (stay clear of the relegation scrap) ... a lot of change in just two weeks Me and otium had a discussion the other week on here. I argued that the recent past has caused so many mental scars and that it is these scars which could be our downfall . We have a top 10 squad talent wise. What we needed / need is someone who can heal the scars . Siewert came In in January and immediately fell out with a good proportion if the first team so, that, allied to his lack of experience, meant that maybe he wasn't ideally the man to lead us into this season. What a mess . We could easily go down if we don't get the right man in . It's hard to say who the right man is though
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 18, 2019 9:28:01 GMT 1
We’ll bounce back eventually but I think most people have quickly had to readjust there expectations for the season Personally I was hoping for a top eight/ top ten finish (hoping for a tilt at the play offs). Now I’m expecting us to end about 16th to 18th (stay clear of the relegation scrap) ... a lot of change in just two weeks Me and otium had a discussion the other week on here. I argued that the recent past has caused so many mental scars and that it is these scars which could be our downfall . We have a top 10 squad talent wise. What we needed / need is someone who can heal the scars . Siewert came In in January and immediately fell out with a good proportion if the first team so, that, allied to his lack of experience, meant that maybe he wasn't ideally the man to lead us into this season. What a mess . We could easily go down if we don't get the right man in . It's hard to say who the right man is though Agree if they find another JS we could really be in the brown stuff Personally they can’t go for a risk/ untested manager but rather someone who gives you a fair amount of confidence they can manage players and steady the ship On paper we have a first 11 to beat anyone but the second string is way short in the defensive and centre mid positions and that will hurt us once injuries and suspensions kick in in a couple of months
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 18, 2019 9:44:43 GMT 1
Not exactly fair on AW however it’s explained - no doubting in my mind that there’s double standards in terms of expecting loyalty for JS when he threw his assistant under the bus because he wanted CB all along It’s a dog eat dog business and JS also played that game IMO Ultimately it's a sorry tale from start to finish . 7 months that will be looked on in years to come with total embarrassment . "The Siewert era" . The era when the club shot itself in the foot. Who knows whether we will.come back from this act of folly Agree Ted, but if anything it should be known as the Rebbe era. The time when we wasted the opportunities the premier league provides by blowing tens of millions on poor signings.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 9:51:36 GMT 1
Ultimately it's a sorry tale from start to finish . 7 months that will be looked on in years to come with total embarrassment . "The Siewert era" . The era when the club shot itself in the foot. Who knows whether we will.come back from this act of folly Agree Ted, but if anything it should be known as the Rebbe era. The time when we wasted the opportunities the premier league provides by blowing tens of millions on poor signings. To an extent you are right yes. It was a terrible window for us . Awful . But at the beginning of December despite the window we were highly competitive in the premier league. It was a horrid December for us and obviously things were going on behind the scenes, something was happening with egos probably, something changed to persuade Wagner it wasn't for him . But what's happened since Jan came in has been off the scale to be honest. This time last year we were looking more solid in the premier league than we are now in the championship. It's astonishing really . So whoever's era it can be defined as it really has been a shit show . And it's a shit show which will take a lot of turning around. So we really do need to get behind the chairman . We don't have any choice really
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 18, 2019 9:55:13 GMT 1
Also Hudson spent a good couple of minutes trying to placate those couple of dickheads hurling abuse at JS from the front of the stand. He didn’t have to do that. And where the fuck where some stewards. Exactly! I know a couple of lads who got lifted for flicking wanker signs at the opposition fans and they have to see JR, sign the behaviour contract etc etc etc. Yet two blokes verbally and aggressively abuse our coach, banging on the dugout and the stewards just watch.
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Post by EatonRifles on Aug 18, 2019 9:55:39 GMT 1
Ultimately it's a sorry tale from start to finish . 7 months that will be looked on in years to come with total embarrassment . "The Siewert era" . The era when the club shot itself in the foot. Who knows whether we will.come back from this act of folly We’ll bounce back eventually but I think most people have quickly had to readjust there expectations for the season Personally I was hoping for a top eight/ top ten finish (hoping for a tilt at the play offs). Now I’m expecting us to end about 16th to 18th (stay clear of the relegation scrap) ... a lot of change in just two weeks I remember us dropping down the leagues in the ‘70’s and the Cowshed singing ‘Huddersfield Town will 🤬 rise again’ We’ll it happened, I saw my beloved club top the Premier League for a brief period, I’m 53 now and I don’t care if we end up another two divisions lower because those words I heard and sang along to will come true again, I’d like to think it’ll be at least once more within my lifetime.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 10:00:29 GMT 1
Also Hudson spent a good couple of minutes trying to placate those couple of dickheads hurling abuse at JS from the front of the stand. He didn’t have to do that. And where the fuck where some stewards. Exactly! I know a couple of lads who got lifted for flicking wanker signs at the opposition fans and they have to see JR, sign the behaviour contract etc etc etc. Yet two blokes verbally and aggressively abuse our coach, banging on the dugout and the stewards just watch. Did you see the wanker. Not sure what stage of the game it was . Got out of his seat . Sauntered about 40 yards towards the dugout. Gave the bench loads of verbals (as he was stood in front of our disabled fans who are trying to watch the game) then sauntered back to his seat. Vindicated no doubt by the thought that he's a footballing genius and the world wants to hear. If you're on here YOURE a WANKER
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 18, 2019 10:08:46 GMT 1
Also Hudson spent a good couple of minutes trying to placate those couple of dickheads hurling abuse at JS from the front of the stand. He didn’t have to do that. And where the fuck where some stewards. Exactly! I know a couple of lads who got lifted for flicking wanker signs at the opposition fans and they have to see JR, sign the behaviour contract etc etc etc. Yet two blokes verbally and aggressively abuse our coach, banging on the dugout and the stewards just watch. These people don't help at all. There's misguided passion and then there's getting off your seat, going to the dugout and carrying on for however long. That's just a twat looking for an excuse to act like a twat or a nutjob. I wouldn't get em to sign something, I'd ban em for a few games.
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 18, 2019 10:10:00 GMT 1
Exactly! I know a couple of lads who got lifted for flicking wanker signs at the opposition fans and they have to see JR, sign the behaviour contract etc etc etc. Yet two blokes verbally and aggressively abuse our coach, banging on the dugout and the stewards just watch. Did you see the wanker. Not sure what stage of the game it was . Got out of his seat . Sauntered about 40 yards towards the dugout. Gave the bench loads of verbals (as he was stood in front of our disabled fans who are trying to watch the game) then sauntered back to his seat. Vindicated no doubt by the thought that he's a footballing genius and the world wants to hear. If you're on here YOURE a WANKER Paid his £10.82 to watch the game so obviously gives him the right to say and do what he wants.
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Post by Merseyterrier on Aug 18, 2019 10:10:31 GMT 1
Well it's more or less word for word what was said at the q and a so maybe he is I still think it's bollocks. Fwiw I don't expect to be told the truth about lots of goings on at the club and as fans nor should we be. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards I agree. We get fed bullshit from the club from time to time . We even got fed bullshit from .. gasp... Dean Hoyle from time to time . And you're right. We shouldn't be told everything, they have got a club to run and many people to keep happy and on side. The problem I have though Roy is that people start making up crap off the top of their heads. It feels like they are actively wanting to undermine and erode something which they would purport to like /love. Without any foundation but just based on uninformed guesswork I find that really really weird. But then again I do remember you saying woodlands fish n chips were better than compos ;-) When Henry had it in 1970, he meant. Think it was still Parkhead chippy then too, before Compo was on telly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 13:37:54 GMT 1
I agree. We get fed bullshit from the club from time to time . We even got fed bullshit from .. gasp... Dean Hoyle from time to time . And you're right. We shouldn't be told everything, they have got a club to run and many people to keep happy and on side. The problem I have though Roy is that people start making up crap off the top of their heads. It feels like they are actively wanting to undermine and erode something which they would purport to like /love. Without any foundation but just based on uninformed guesswork I find that really really weird. But then again I do remember you saying woodlands fish n chips were better than compos ;-) When Henry had it in 1970, he meant. Think it was still Parkhead chippy then too, before Compo was on telly. both decent but scholes better
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 13:38:42 GMT 1
Jeez Positive have you been recently? I was very disappointed I have to say
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