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Post by space hardware on Aug 16, 2019 23:49:20 GMT 1
I keep reading this on here, "This is not Championship Manager". No, it isn't, but when most of us utter clowns can see what's wrong from a mile off, why can't Phil? Apparently he was involved in the thought process of recruiting Siewert back in January. If this is the case then he might have been well advised to flag up the DOF situation during the takeover. He can't have it all ways. Either he was involved or he wasn't. We might be able to see it but there’s feck all any of us can do in 2 months of being in CONTROL. He came out with all that bullshit about him, gave him £2.50 to spend in the summer and has now fired him. He doesn't really help himself, does he? |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 16, 2019 23:50:27 GMT 1
I agree on your first point. Stupid faceless sacking statement that creates more questions than answers. Why not wait until the weekend and manage it more professionally? Everything just seems cheap and amateurish at the moment. Like apointing a guy with zero senior experience while we were in the Premier League He claims to have been involved in the process behind that appointment though. Or does he? Probably not now. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 16, 2019 23:52:32 GMT 1
Like apointing a guy with zero senior experience while we were in the Premier League He claims to have been involved in the process behind that appointment though. Or does he? Probably not now. Probably trying to back him before realising we have a bunch of players who would rather throw him under a bus. Tough situation |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Aug 16, 2019 23:52:35 GMT 1
I put my two pennorth in on here when I saw his stupid initial first interview in the stupid PH Town shirt.-total blagger so far and still is surrendered by big doubts about his financial muscle and credibility.It all seems so strange to me and very sad.....Dean has to take some stick on this but given how ill he was and how much he has done for this club I find it hard to criticise him The choice of the next manager given the potential in the squad truly is the most defining moment for the clubs next few years . No comparison. Dean takes over when we’re desperate. Couldn’t get much lower. PH takes over after an incredible few years which had started seriously coming off the rails behind the scenes. More so than any of us realised. Oh and PH was Deans choice. And. Dean still has 25%. Yet it’s all PH’s fault after 2 months. You've got no clout with only 25%. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 16, 2019 23:53:35 GMT 1
No comparison. Dean takes over when we’re desperate. Couldn’t get much lower. PH takes over after an incredible few years which had started seriously coming off the rails behind the scenes. More so than any of us realised. Oh and PH was Deans choice. And. Dean still has 25%. Yet it’s all PH’s fault after 2 months. You've got no clout with only 25%. But you’re still happy to put your name on it. |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 16, 2019 23:53:43 GMT 1
He claims to have been involved in the process behind that appointment though. Or does he? Probably not now. Probably trying to back him before realising we have a bunch of players who would rather throw him under a bus. Tough situation But surely he'd know that the players were a bunch of shitehawks, if he'd really been involved since January? |
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Post by specialun on Aug 16, 2019 23:53:45 GMT 1
‘Give him a chance, he’s going to be a really good manager’ P Hodgkinson 15.07.19 1 month later - gone! A man of his word! What would you have done? Stick with him and wait till he comes good? Fuck my life I didn’t say that. My comments are about Hodgkinson’s actions in light of his own comments not mine! But 1. I wouldn’t have praised him so much in the first place 2. Whether I had done or not, I’d have given him some money to spend. I wouldn’t have sold £25m of players and loan our best player without s replacement and spent just £1m of the funds. I’d have reinvested in the team and ensure we had a left back and a replacement centre mid - I wouldn’t have thrown him under the bus! 3. If I had made a statement telling people to give him a chance I’d have given him more than 4 weeks! |
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Post by buckers on Aug 16, 2019 23:53:58 GMT 1
So we sacked Jan on Wednesday, but because he’d already picked the team for Friday we let him stay on. Had the statement for his sacking all written up pre match!
What. A. Farce.
The deadwood at this club needs cutting loose.
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Post by htfc1908 on Aug 16, 2019 23:54:04 GMT 1
Phil can't win on here can he? 'he's got to sack Jan!' so he sacks him then gets 'oh he's sacked him what a stunt!' I fucking give up, what a set of cretins on here!
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 16, 2019 23:56:08 GMT 1
Phil can't win on here can he? 'he's got to sack Jan!' so he sacks him then gets 'oh he's sacked him what a stunt!' I fucking give up, what a set of cretins on here! Absolutely. They think we should have blasted £20m on an incoherent transfer strategy. 😂😂😂 Having also witnessed the last 3 transfer windows. Brainless |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 16, 2019 23:58:01 GMT 1
Phil can't win on here can he? 'he's got to sack Jan!' so he sacks him then gets 'oh he's sacked him what a stunt!' I fucking give up, what a set of cretins on here! No, it's more the shit he came out with last month, before selling players and replacing them with lower league kids in the window, then sacking the guy he'd given unequivocal backing to for failing with the weakened team he gave him. Yes, Siewert was shit but he should been fired as soon as Phil could do it. The summer has been a fucking sham and it's on his watch. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 16, 2019 23:59:23 GMT 1
Phil can't win on here can he? 'he's got to sack Jan!' so he sacks him then gets 'oh he's sacked him what a stunt!' I fucking give up, what a set of cretins on here! No, it's more the shit he came out with last month, before selling players and replacing them with lower league kids in the window, then sacking the guy he'd given unequivocal backing to for failing with the weakened team he gave him. Yes, Siewert was shit but he should been fired as soon as Phil could do it. The summer has been a fucking sham and it's on his watch. Ok mate. I see your point of view. So until the day PH took over everything was looking rosy. Then PH came in and fecked it all up. The end |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 17, 2019 0:03:24 GMT 1
No, it's more the shit he came out with last month, before selling players and replacing them with lower league kids in the window, then sacking the guy he'd given unequivocal backing to for failing with the weakened team he gave him. Yes, Siewert was shit but he should been fired as soon as Phil could do it. The summer has been a fucking sham and it's on his watch. Ok mate. I see your point of view. So until the day PH took over everything was looking rosy. Then PH came in and fecked it all up. The end Got there in the end 😉, let's call it quits and shake hands on it |
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 17, 2019 0:03:35 GMT 1
No, it's more the shit he came out with last month, before selling players and replacing them with lower league kids in the window, then sacking the guy he'd given unequivocal backing to for failing with the weakened team he gave him. Yes, Siewert was shit but he should been fired as soon as Phil could do it. The summer has been a fucking sham and it's on his watch. Ok mate. I see your point of view. So until the day PH took over everything was looking rosy. Then PH came in and fecked it all up. The end Simple yes/no question please. Are you happy with the running of our football club? |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 17, 2019 0:07:46 GMT 1
Ok mate. I see your point of view. So until the day PH took over everything was looking rosy. Then PH came in and fecked it all up. The end Simple yes/no question please. Are you happy with the running of our football club? Not at all but I think it’s drastically unfair to judge PH on a few weeks where let’s face it we have been in a shambolic situation from decisions made long before his time and at a highly emotional time for fans who’ve seen (what is it) 4 wins in 50 odd games. |
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Post by specialun on Aug 17, 2019 0:09:12 GMT 1
Phil can't win on here can he? 'he's got to sack Jan!' so he sacks him then gets 'oh he's sacked him what a stunt!' I fucking give up, what a set of cretins on here! People are entitled to opinions... clearly not all will agree ... there isn’t one DATM view! If they differ with yours then they’re a cretin?! Show me someone who previously said Jan should be sacked now criticising Hodgkinson for sacking him? My position has been consistent since June 1. Team not good enough 2. Lack of investment 3. Jan thrown under bus 4. He’d be gone by October and replaced by Hudson I’ve never been a big fan of Jan but he was bound to fail after a disasterous summer transfer window The Board clearly at fault! |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 17, 2019 0:09:32 GMT 1
Ok mate. I see your point of view. So until the day PH took over everything was looking rosy. Then PH came in and fecked it all up. The end Got there in the end 😉, let's call it quits and shake hands on it I need sleep 👍🏼 |
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Post by specialun on Aug 17, 2019 0:11:51 GMT 1
Simple yes/no question please. Are you happy with the running of our football club? Not at all but I think it’s drastically unfair to judge PH on a few weeks where let’s face it we have been in a shambolic situation from decisions made long before his time and at a highly emotional time for fans who’ve seen (what is it) 4 wins in 50 odd games. He is however 100% responsible for his own actions / comments 1. Saying give the manager a chance and sacking him 4 games later 2. Selling £25m (and Mooy loan) and spending less than £1m on permanent signings He has to face up to that - can’t blame anyone else! |
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 17, 2019 0:19:11 GMT 1
Simple yes/no question please. Are you happy with the running of our football club? Not at all but I think it’s drastically unfair to judge PH on a few weeks where let’s face it we have been in a shambolic situation from decisions made long before his time and at a highly emotional time for fans who’ve seen (what is it) 4 wins in 50 odd games. I think we are on the same page then. I don't think anybody is suggesting that our current plight is solely the fault of PH. But he is our major shareholder at the moment and so he is in the firing line. Everything that he has handled seems shambolic. I desperately want it to work for him because he is in charge of my club. But all I see is piecemeal, reactive management and no real leadership. I accept that it is still very early days but he needs to grab our club by the collars, give it a big fucking shake and run it like a professional! |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 17, 2019 0:20:18 GMT 1
Not at all but I think it’s drastically unfair to judge PH on a few weeks where let’s face it we have been in a shambolic situation from decisions made long before his time and at a highly emotional time for fans who’ve seen (what is it) 4 wins in 50 odd games. He is however 100% responsible for his own actions / comments 1. Saying give the manager a chance and sacking him 4 games later 2. Selling £25m (and Mooy loan) and spending less than £1m on permanent signings He has to face up to that - can’t blame anyone else! 1. Trying to back him is not a crime. I’d argue the players have forced his hand here. 2. Neither is rushing out to blast ANOTHER £25m into the market having inherited zero in the form of a transfer strategy. You want more Mounie’s, Diakahabys and Mbenzas? I certainly don’t. So no one else to blame for either 1 or 2. You’re in dream world |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 17, 2019 0:24:50 GMT 1
Not at all but I think it’s drastically unfair to judge PH on a few weeks where let’s face it we have been in a shambolic situation from decisions made long before his time and at a highly emotional time for fans who’ve seen (what is it) 4 wins in 50 odd games. I think we are on the same page then. I don't think anybody is suggesting that our current plight is solely the fault of PH. But he is our major shareholder at the moment and so he is in the firing line. Everything that he has handled seems shambolic. I desperately want it to work for him because he is in charge of my club. But all I see is piecemeal, reactive management and no real leadership. I accept that it is still very early days but he needs to grab our club by the collars, give it a big fucking shake and run it like a professional! And I agree with you but i genuinely don’t think it’s fair to judge at least until end of season. He has been handed a shit storm |
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Post by Tiro on Aug 17, 2019 0:26:10 GMT 1
So we sacked Jan on Wednesday, but because he’d already picked the team for Friday we let him stay on. Had the statement for his sacking all written up pre match! What. A. Farce. The deadwood at this club needs cutting loose. No. None of the above. You reckon the statement we prepared was ‘no further comment at this time’? Get a grip. |
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 17, 2019 0:27:38 GMT 1
I think we are on the same page then. I don't think anybody is suggesting that our current plight is solely the fault of PH. But he is our major shareholder at the moment and so he is in the firing line. Everything that he has handled seems shambolic. I desperately want it to work for him because he is in charge of my club. But all I see is piecemeal, reactive management and no real leadership. I accept that it is still very early days but he needs to grab our club by the collars, give it a big fucking shake and run it like a professional! And I agree with you but i genuinely don’t think it’s fair to judge at least until end of season. He has been handed a shit storm Fair do's mate. I think we are both in the very concerned category of Town fans. Fingers crossed that our fortunes change soon. All the best! |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 17, 2019 0:28:52 GMT 1
So we sacked Jan on Wednesday, but because he’d already picked the team for Friday we let him stay on. Had the statement for his sacking all written up pre match! What. A. Farce. The deadwood at this club needs cutting loose. Credit where it’s due, if he was fired and given tonight as a reprieve, Siewert acted with consummate professionalism and his passion was evident on the touchline. |
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Post by ritchie on Aug 17, 2019 0:29:51 GMT 1
Simple yes/no question please. Are you happy with the running of our football club? Not at all but I think it’s drastically unfair to judge PH on a few weeks where let’s face it we have been in a shambolic situation from decisions made long before his time and at a highly emotional time for fans who’ve seen (what is it) 4 wins in 50 odd games. He had the power to sort it. If he wasnt willing to give him money, or time, he should have got rid months ago And 'incoherent transfer strategy'? This is the man who was in agreement with dean that they would handle it rather than a dof (bizarre decision). We(phil) have had months and months to plan for this august and it looks a shambles....of course he will get criticism...jans received much worse |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 17, 2019 0:31:15 GMT 1
Got there in the end 😉, let's call it quits and shake hands on it I need sleep 👍🏼 I can’t sleep |
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Post by buckers on Aug 17, 2019 0:32:08 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 0:38:55 GMT 1
So we sacked Jan on Wednesday, but because he’d already picked the team for Friday we let him stay on. Had the statement for his sacking all written up pre match! What. A. Farce. The deadwood at this club needs cutting loose. Credit where it’s due, if he was fired and given tonight as a reprieve, Siewert acted with consummate professionalism and his passion was evident on the touchline. Not the case. JS bought himself a last chance, but the outcome was the same. |
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Post by mrbluesky on Aug 17, 2019 0:43:41 GMT 1
PH has only been chairman 7 weeks , he has inherited one hell of a shit sandwich that is for sure and I for one hope he can indeed turn the shit sandwich in to fish , chips , gravy and mushy peas and then sprinkle on the old salt and vinegar to make it all taste better. I don’t know the fella but I bet he’s wondering  right now , he is a lifelong fan and that’s a definite fact , he would have been like a kid at Christmas on his first day at the club as I would have been if I would have got myself the chance to run the club I had supported all my life - trouble is `Santa had left him a bag of trouble , he didn’t ask for any of the toys in the bag , the jigsaw had pieces missing and the train set had no controller but he didn’t want to say anything so he told everyone he was happy and hoped he could make something good out of the situation. Back to reality , he did the right thing publicly supporting SIEWART but he also did the right thing getting rid quickly when he knew he was not the right man , that shows he is in tune with us all . Here’s to a bright future.....UTFT , forever |
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Post by Tiro on Aug 17, 2019 1:44:36 GMT 1
Would you? I ask you, why they didn’t break this earlier? That’s a scoop right? |
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right now , he is a lifelong fan and that’s a definite fact , he would have been like a kid at Christmas on his first day at the club as I would have been if I would have got myself the chance to run the club I had supported all my life - trouble is `Santa had left him a bag of trouble , he didn’t ask for any of the toys in the bag , the jigsaw had pieces missing and the train set had no controller but he didn’t want to say anything so he told everyone he was happy and hoped he could make something good out of the situation.