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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 20:34:13 GMT 1
If unemployed Nigel Adkins has turned us down along with the cowleys there must be serious issues behind the scenes I turned it down too. I was never offered it but I still turned it down. |
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 5, 2019 20:38:25 GMT 1
bowyer is still in the running. pluss chopper harris and stendell at barnsley I s Chopper Harris still alive? |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 5, 2019 20:40:12 GMT 1
If unemployed Nigel Adkins has turned us down along with the cowleys there must be serious issues behind the scenes They went to look at the shocking town centre area first and lack of retail shopping and no marks and sparks, deal breaker ? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 5, 2019 20:44:25 GMT 1
Maynardblue says it’s not him and he hasn’t even been spoken to. Based on his reputation I think that means it’s unlikely to be Adkins. If he really hasn’t been spoken to then that’s a massive worry in itself imo. Its a shame because he would have been ok i think. We could certainly do a lot worse. Not sure what to think about the stories of Cowleys turning us down. Might have other clubs on their radar that they see as a better gig. But theyd be a huge gamble IMO anyway. Pretty similar to Nathan Jones when he moved from Luton to Stoke. Hed done a great job in the lower divisions, took Luton up as champs of L2 and was in the process of taking them up again the following season when Stoke took him. Not exactly gone well for Stoke since though! |
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Post by hthtafs on Sept 5, 2019 20:53:16 GMT 1
If unemployed Nigel Adkins has turned us down along with the cowleys there must be serious issues behind the scenes . So were you on the interview panel then mate? Sounds like nobody is on the interview panel ... a well run club would have contingency plans for a new manager in place prior to dismissing the previous one. We appear to be clueless, if we haven’t interviewed at least a couple of prospective candidates by now then that appearance is confirmed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 20:55:31 GMT 1
. So were you on the interview panel then mate? Sounds like nobody is on the interview panel ... a well run club would have contingency plans for a new manager in place prior to dismissing the previous one. We appear to be clueless, if we haven’t interviewed at least a couple of prospective candidates by now then that appearance is confirmed. Planning ahead is not in our DNA. Only time it has ever happened is when we brought Wagner in. |
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Post by Stiggy on Sept 5, 2019 21:05:37 GMT 1
Its a shame because he would have been ok i think. We could certainly do a lot worse. Not sure what to think about the stories of Cowleys turning us down. Might have other clubs on their radar that they see as a better gig. But theyd be a huge gamble IMO anyway. Pretty similar to Nathan Jones when he moved from Luton to Stoke. Hed done a great job in the lower divisions, took Luton up as champs of L2 and was in the process of taking them up again the following season when Stoke took him. Not exactly gone well for Stoke since though! I heard they accepted verbally then when Phil got involved it went belly up. So come on the who did you hear that off?? Let me guess someone in the pub. F*ck off. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 5, 2019 21:09:09 GMT 1
Its a shame because he would have been ok i think. We could certainly do a lot worse. Not sure what to think about the stories of Cowleys turning us down. Might have other clubs on their radar that they see as a better gig. But theyd be a huge gamble IMO anyway. Pretty similar to Nathan Jones when he moved from Luton to Stoke. Hed done a great job in the lower divisions, took Luton up as champs of L2 and was in the process of taking them up again the following season when Stoke took him. Not exactly gone well for Stoke since though! I heard they accepted verbally then when Phil got involved it went belly up. Who told you ? Saource ? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 21:11:14 GMT 1
If he turns it down and the public stuff going about, then I genuinely give up. Something must be very wrong behind closed doors.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 5, 2019 21:16:43 GMT 1
So let’s say we get a manager, he does ok and steadies the titanic, will you still be worried we didn’t speak to Mr Adkins? Stupid question that. Valid that the dof may not fancy him though, you always assume working together they get on but the opposite may be the case. Imo he was a standout candidate and I would have thought both sides would/should be keen to talk at least. Just hope we’re not trying to be clever again, recent business has proved we’re pretty far from being clever when it comes to recruitment. It wasn’t a stupid question, which you didn’t answer. I don’t get what you are trying to say really, other than the usual assumptions, as people do. You said it’s a massive worry if we haven’t spoken to him (which you don’t know), why would you be so worried if the club have decided not to talk to him? What makes you think you know better than the board? Its not personal at you mate but every single thread is just absolute shite, people thinking they know best, what we should do etc. People are entitled to an opinion but when it’s always presumptuous, ill informed crap and sly digs at the club then it just becomes tiresome. |
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Sept 5, 2019 21:26:45 GMT 1
I heard they accepted verbally then when Phil got involved it went belly up. So come on the who did you hear that off?? Let me guess someone in the pub. F*ck off. I think he was joking. |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 5, 2019 21:31:09 GMT 1
Stupid question that. Valid that the dof may not fancy him though, you always assume working together they get on but the opposite may be the case. Imo he was a standout candidate and I would have thought both sides would/should be keen to talk at least. Just hope we’re not trying to be clever again, recent business has proved we’re pretty far from being clever when it comes to recruitment. It wasn’t a stupid question, which you didn’t answer. I don’t get what you are trying to say really, other than the usual assumptions, as people do. You said it’s a massive worry if we haven’t spoken to him (which you don’t know), why would you be so worried if the club have decided not to talk to him? What makes you think you know better than the board? Its not personal at you mate but every single thread is just absolute shite, people thinking they know best, what we should do etc. People are entitled to an opinion but when it’s always presumptuous, ill informed crap and sly digs at the club then it just becomes tiresome. It looks a pretty silly question to me. I would expect that if the new manager (whoever gets the gig) manages to steady the ship, nobody will give a flying fuck who else was rejected. Right now though, the ship ain't steady, and Nigel Adkins does seem like a very strong candidate to take over at a club in our position - so at the moment, IF Adkins hasn't been spoken to then that is confusing, to say the least. |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 5, 2019 21:33:28 GMT 1
People are saying he's a journeyman manager? Please explain? Adkins has managed 6 clubs in 26 years Journeyman means that he's competent, but not outstanding. It's not a reference to how many employers he's worked for. |
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Post by royrace on Sept 5, 2019 22:38:24 GMT 1
Stupid question that. Valid that the dof may not fancy him though, you always assume working together they get on but the opposite may be the case. Imo he was a standout candidate and I would have thought both sides would/should be keen to talk at least. Just hope we’re not trying to be clever again, recent business has proved we’re pretty far from being clever when it comes to recruitment. It wasn’t a stupid question, which you didn’t answer. I don’t get what you are trying to say really, other than the usual assumptions, as people do. You said it’s a massive worry if we haven’t spoken to him (which you don’t know), why would you be so worried if the club have decided not to talk to him? What makes you think you know better than the board? Its not personal at you mate but every single thread is just absolute shite, people thinking they know best, what we should do etc. People are entitled to an opinion but when it’s always presumptuous, ill informed crap and sly digs at the club then it just becomes tiresome. Tiresome is putting forward an opinion in a post then having someone come along and quiz you on every aspect and insinuate it's presumptuous, ill informed crap and you're just having a cheap dig at the club. Been going on since the slide started and guess what it turns out people on here were right to be concerned. If you don't agree that's great but why not just say so and put forward a good counter argument like the other poster did. Personally I find it a worry if we haven't even spoken to Adkins because he is a high calibre coach at this level, I don't think that's particularly controversial. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 5, 2019 22:41:10 GMT 1
If unemployed Nigel Adkins has turned us down along with the cowleys there must be serious issues behind the scenes They went to look at the shocking town centre area first and lack of retail shopping and no marks and sparks, deal breaker ? Aren't they about 40 years too young to use M&S |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 5, 2019 22:56:54 GMT 1
They went to look at the shocking town centre area first and lack of retail shopping and no marks and sparks, deal breaker ? Aren't they about 40 years too young to use M&S Even Adkins is... |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 5, 2019 23:01:45 GMT 1
bowyer is still in the running. pluss chopper harris and stendell at barnsley I s Chopper Harris still alive? Ron turned it down apparently. |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 5, 2019 23:03:17 GMT 1
They went to look at the shocking town centre area first and lack of retail shopping and no marks and sparks, deal breaker ? Aren't they about 40 years too young to use M&S Nick loves his blue harbour jeans and polo shirt come matchday |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 0:13:51 GMT 1
Sounds like nobody is on the interview panel ... a well run club would have contingency plans for a new manager in place prior to dismissing the previous one. We appear to be clueless, if we haven’t interviewed at least a couple of prospective candidates by now then that appearance is confirmed. Planning ahead is not in our DNA. Only time it has ever happened is when we brought Wagner in. Also Siewert, that went well. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 6, 2019 0:18:35 GMT 1
Planning ahead is not in our DNA. Only time it has ever happened is when we brought Wagner in. Also Siewert, that went well. Tracked him for 3 years don’t you know!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 0:28:01 GMT 1
Also Siewert, that went well. Tracked him for 3 years don’t you know!!! I know, sometimes pre planning doesn't work out the say you want. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 1:33:08 GMT 1
If he turns it down and the public stuff going about, then I genuinely give up. Something must be very wrong behind closed doors. Can I point out that both the Examiner and maybardblue (a very reliable poster with inside knowledge) have said he has not been offered the job. It was false reporting by WYS. So he has not turned it down anymore than I have. |
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Post by Mecha Corte on Sept 6, 2019 7:46:13 GMT 1
If unemployed Nigel Adkins has turned us down along with the cowleys there must be serious issues behind the scenes They went to look at the shocking town centre area first and lack of retail shopping and no marks and sparks, deal breaker ? I'm not from Huddersfield but I believe the town centre is on its arse, 20 years ago Dewsbury lost its M&S and that was the start of a slow lingering death, even the once famous market is now a waste of space. The reason I'm replying to you though Nick is I've seen your waste of money comments in the Canalside thread, you also state the town is dead, if that's true then surely it makes more sense to have state of the art training facilities? Players, Coaches, Managers etc will all be influenced by them, remember LDP slated the toilets and parking while he was here, it's easy as a fan to mock that attitude but it's what the club are up against with modern day players, so players are happy to train here and they can keep their other half happy by shopping in Leeds, Manchester , York and Sheffield all within a short drive in their Range Rover cars, we also have Summer Wine country on the doorstep which helps. The people with the biggest problem are Kirklees Council, Dewsbury town centre is to all intents finished ( I live there ), if it's main town, Huddersfield goes the same way then what ? Most of KMC tax payers aren't on football players wages and don't have the freedoms that disposable income brings, there is hope, Wakefield and Bury are doing OK, Lincoln where the Cowley brothers seem so happy has a nice town centre, and Adkins' last club, Hull the town centre is much improved. All these places have unpleasant districts around them I know but so does everywhere else. |
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Post by runner76 on Sept 6, 2019 8:03:52 GMT 1
They went to look at the shocking town centre area first and lack of retail shopping and no marks and sparks, deal breaker ? I'm not from Huddersfield but I believe the town centre is on its arse, 20 years ago Dewsbury lost its M&S and that was the start of a slow lingering death, even the once famous market is now a waste of space. The reason I'm replying to you though Nick is I've seen your waste of money comments in the Canalside thread, you also state the town is dead, if that's true then surely it makes more sense to have state of the art training facilities? Players, Coaches, Managers etc will all be influenced by them, remember LDP slated the toilets and parking while he was here, it's easy as a fan to mock that attitude but it's what the club are up against with modern day players, so players are happy to train here and they can keep their other half happy by shopping in Leeds, Manchester , York and Sheffield all within a short drive in their Range Rover cars, we also have Summer Wine country on the doorstep which helps. The people with the biggest problem are Kirklees Council, Dewsbury town centre is to all intents finished ( I live there ), if it's main town, Huddersfield goes the same way then what ? Most of KMC tax payers aren't on football players wages and don't have the freedoms that disposable income brings, there is hope, Wakefield and Bury are doing OK, Lincoln where the Cowley brothers seem so happy has a nice town centre, and Adkins' last club, Hull the town centre is much improved. All these places have unpleasant districts around them I know but so does everywhere else. Any Town players and managers could easily live in Summer Wine Country, as you say. Who wouldn’t find that attractive?  ? That’s a selling point on its own. |
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Post by terrier70 on Sept 6, 2019 8:24:42 GMT 1
Its a shame because he would have been ok i think. We could certainly do a lot worse. Not sure what to think about the stories of Cowleys turning us down. Might have other clubs on their radar that they see as a better gig. But theyd be a huge gamble IMO anyway. Pretty similar to Nathan Jones when he moved from Luton to Stoke. Hed done a great job in the lower divisions, took Luton up as champs of L2 and was in the process of taking them up again the following season when Stoke took him. Not exactly gone well for Stoke since though! I heard they accepted verbally then when Phil got involved it went belly up. Come on then, your big enough to post that, be big enough to reveal your source! If not delete the post |
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Post by htfc1908 on Sept 6, 2019 8:27:39 GMT 1
I heard they accepted verbally then when Phil got involved it went belly up. Come on then, your big enough to post that, be big enough to reveal your source! If not delete the post Voices in his head that's his source! |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 6, 2019 9:34:16 GMT 1
I'm not from Huddersfield but I believe the town centre is on its arse, 20 years ago Dewsbury lost its M&S and that was the start of a slow lingering death, even the once famous market is now a waste of space. The reason I'm replying to you though Nick is I've seen your waste of money comments in the Canalside thread, you also state the town is dead, if that's true then surely it makes more sense to have state of the art training facilities? Players, Coaches, Managers etc will all be influenced by them, remember LDP slated the toilets and parking while he was here, it's easy as a fan to mock that attitude but it's what the club are up against with modern day players, so players are happy to train here and they can keep their other half happy by shopping in Leeds, Manchester , York and Sheffield all within a short drive in their Range Rover cars, we also have Summer Wine country on the doorstep which helps. The people with the biggest problem are Kirklees Council, Dewsbury town centre is to all intents finished ( I live there ), if it's main town, Huddersfield goes the same way then what ? Most of KMC tax payers aren't on football players wages and don't have the freedoms that disposable income brings, there is hope, Wakefield and Bury are doing OK, Lincoln where the Cowley brothers seem so happy has a nice town centre, and Adkins' last club, Hull the town centre is much improved. All these places have unpleasant districts around them I know but so does everywhere else. Any Town players and managers could easily live in Summer Wine Country, as you say. Who wouldn’t find that attractive? ? That’s a selling point on its own. I don't think footballers want to live in some rustic backwater with weird neighbours. Posh suburbs with big villas for them. Last of the summer wine was shite as well. |
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Post by Mecha Corte on Sept 6, 2019 9:52:31 GMT 1
Any Town players and managers could easily live in Summer Wine Country, as you say. Who wouldn’t find that attractive? ? That’s a selling point on its own. I don't think footballers want to live in some rustic backwater with weird neighbours. Posh suburbs with big villas for them. Last of the summer wine was shite as well. That all may be true but it's still an attractive location to spend an afternoon with your family, like wise with Howarth, I wouldn't go to Bradford but we do go to Howarth. However the point I was making is the training facilities will help attract players, it's then down to the club to sell the area or all the places close by to appeal to their families. |
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Post by yellowbelly on Sept 6, 2019 10:08:59 GMT 1
I don't think footballers want to live in some rustic backwater with weird neighbours. Posh suburbs with big villas for them. Last of the summer wine was shite as well. That all may be true but it's still an attractive location to spend an afternoon with your family, like wise with Howarth, I wouldn't go to Bradford but we do go to Howarth. However the point I was making is the training facilities will help attract players, it's then down to the club to sell the area or all the places close by to appeal to their families. I prefer Haworth myself |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 6, 2019 10:15:28 GMT 1
Calderdale and caldervalley is the in place !
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? That’s a selling point on its own.