£50000 fine

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Sept 5, 2019 23:46:03 GMT 1 Ginger Ogre said:

Sept 5, 2019 23:39:40 GMT 1 shawsie said:

I thought the same then as I do know....it was a joke, a stunt, something to give long suffering fans a bit of a laugh....and god forbid if that's a bit at ourselves eh!!!
When did we all get so bloody precious?!
We've moaned for years that we are deemed an unfashionable dour club ignored by worldwide media and when we break the mould that's wrong as well.
I appreciate others may take a different view but paddy power are irreverent and a bit different-I'd far rather have them involved than a Chinese gaming entity I've never heard of before and am unlikely to do so again.

Its not funny though is it? We've been fined £50K for it.

It's come out the Chairman wanted to back out of it. The man is a CEO of a legal firm but didn't have time to take legal advice, so instead tried to rope an FA OFFICIAL into the whole saga to cover his back once he knew he/we had fucked up and would be punished.

Fans dont care though because we trended in Twitter for a while and had our name splashed all over.

Well who is laughing now? Paddy Power that's who. They've had, in fact still are getting publicity out of all this while we are left looking like utter mugs who haven't a fucking clue what we are doing and are £50K lighter for the whole experience.

You really believe Paddy Power won't cover the fine?

[Ginger Ogre]

Sept 5, 2019 23:53:06 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

Sept 5, 2019 23:46:03 GMT 1 Ginger Ogre said:

Its not funny though is it? We've been fined £50K for it.

It's come out the Chairman wanted to back out of it. The man is a CEO of a legal firm but didn't have time to take legal advice, so instead tried to rope an FA OFFICIAL into the whole saga to cover his back once he knew he/we had fucked up and would be punished.

Fans dont care though because we trended in Twitter for a while and had our name splashed all over.

Well who is laughing now? Paddy Power that's who. They've had, in fact still are getting publicity out of all this while we are left looking like utter mugs who haven't a fucking clue what we are doing and are £50K lighter for the whole experience.

You really believe Paddy Power won't cover the fine?

Why should they? They haven't done anything wrong. I certainly wouldn't if I was them.

Even if they do, Huddersfield Town still look very silly in all this, and sometimes reputation is worth more than a few quid.

Imagine being a potential new manager and reading all this. Hardly likely to make you want to come work for Phil is it?

We're a joke from top to bottom at the moment, and it's heartbreaking to see after all the effort of the previous 10 years

[Frankiesleftpeg]

Sept 5, 2019 23:53:06 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

Sept 5, 2019 23:46:03 GMT 1 Ginger Ogre said:

Its not funny though is it? We've been fined £50K for it.

It's come out the Chairman wanted to back out of it. The man is a CEO of a legal firm but didn't have time to take legal advice, so instead tried to rope an FA OFFICIAL into the whole saga to cover his back once he knew he/we had fucked up and would be punished.

Fans dont care though because we trended in Twitter for a while and had our name splashed all over.

Well who is laughing now? Paddy Power that's who. They've had, in fact still are getting publicity out of all this while we are left looking like utter mugs who haven't a fucking clue what we are doing and are £50K lighter for the whole experience.

You really believe Paddy Power won't cover the fine?

Its not just the fine though, we've been warned as to our future conduct and it won't have gone unnoticed that this is Phil's second offence in a short period of time.

The FA don't need any encouragement when it comes to trumping up a charge no matter how trivial.

[shawsie]

Sept 5, 2019 23:46:03 GMT 1 Ginger Ogre said:

Sept 5, 2019 23:39:40 GMT 1 shawsie said:

I thought the same then as I do know....it was a joke, a stunt, something to give long suffering fans a bit of a laugh....and god forbid if that's a bit at ourselves eh!!!
When did we all get so bloody precious?!
We've moaned for years that we are deemed an unfashionable dour club ignored by worldwide media and when we break the mould that's wrong as well.
I appreciate others may take a different view but paddy power are irreverent and a bit different-I'd far rather have them involved than a Chinese gaming entity I've never heard of before and am unlikely to do so again.

Its not funny though is it? We've been fined £50K for it.

It's come out the Chairman wanted to back out of it. The man is a CEO of a legal firm but didn't have time to take legal advice, so instead tried to rope an FA OFFICIAL into the whole saga to cover his back once he knew he/we had fucked up and would be punished.

Fans dont care though because we trended in Twitter for a while and had our name splashed all over.

Well who is laughing now? Paddy Power that's who. They've had, in fact still are getting publicity out of all this while we are left looking like utter mugs who haven't a fucking clue what we are doing and are £50K lighter for the whole experience.

I'm not going to comment on the chairmans actions - he makes his own decisions and as I said I respect other opinions.
I dont think it would have created much furore today though had the people paid to represent the club on the field not made such an utter fucking mess of the start to our season.
It's easy blaming paddy power, hodgkinson, rebbe, hoyle et al but the reason we are all so fed up is down to the ineptitude over a long period of coaches and players who have made pain frying ones genitals seem more attractive than a town home game!

[Captainslapper]

Sept 5, 2019 23:43:18 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

Sept 5, 2019 23:32:27 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

I don;t think laughing at ourselves is the issue here or what fans think of the spoof shirt stunt.
Plenty of fans were happy to do that and laugh along with the PP stunt. The videos were certainly funny.
But at the same time plenty of fans are a bit fed up of being 'the joke' after such a horrendous season last time.
Perhaps immediately after one of the, if not THE, most emphatic relegations in the club's history, wasn't the time for such hilarious japes.

Either way, the real issue now is we've made ourselves look a ridiculous joke now by apparently stating that we tried to get out of the prank by pleading to the ref to ban the shirt.
Then, wrongly it seems, went through with it because the sponsor was going to sue us.

I mean, we couldn;t really make ourselves look more amateurish and incompetent could we?

If that was Leeds or the chickens we'd all be pissing ourselves at them.

Its gone a bit beyond just releasing a spoof shirt now.

It was a bit of fun at our own expense that made a few Bob. Handled poorly in hindsight but it had not been done before so we have an excuse. The fine is fucking ludicrous for all the reasons already given.
The players failing to meet the requirements of their wage packets is another issue.
The constant finding fault with anything said or done by the club or not said or done or even a fucking rumour has become fucking juvenile and fucking tedious.
Vote with your feet if you really can't stand it anymore. That's all who seemingly revel in the tough time and want certain people to fail and think abuse is fucking acceptable because they bought a 250 quid season card.
They can fuck off for me.

You lashing out a bit at me but not really reading what Im saying.

I wasn;t a fan of the stunt ( id probably fall into the bracket of 'not in the mood' just now ) but it was what it was and we ended up with a fine looking shirt ( bought one and i don't usuallly ), and charity did well out of it, so fine at the end of the day.

What im not happy with is the utterly incompetent fools we now look with todays revelations about trying, and failing, to get out of the stunt at the time.

A lot of the criticism and cynicism aimed at the club, PH in particular, at the moment is way OTT and stinks of deluded entitlement IMO, but at the same time things like this are just embarrassing.
Seems such a long time since we were in the news for something actually positive in some way.

[galpharm2400]

Sept 6, 2019 0:13:26 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Sept 5, 2019 23:43:18 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

It was a bit of fun at our own expense that made a few Bob. Handled poorly in hindsight but it had not been done before so we have an excuse. The fine is fucking ludicrous for all the reasons already given.
The players failing to meet the requirements of their wage packets is another issue.
The constant finding fault with anything said or done by the club or not said or done or even a fucking rumour has become fucking juvenile and fucking tedious.
Vote with your feet if you really can't stand it anymore. That's all who seemingly revel in the tough time and want certain people to fail and think abuse is fucking acceptable because they bought a 250 quid season card.
They can fuck off for me.

You lashing out a bit at me but not really reading what Im saying.

I wasn;t a fan of the stunt ( id probably fall into the bracket of 'not in the mood' just now ) but it was what it was and we ended up with a fine looking shirt ( bought one and i don't usuallly ), and charity did well out of it, so fine at the end of the day.

What im not happy with is the utterly incompetent fools we now look with todays revelations about trying, and failing, to get out of the stunt at the time.

A lot of the criticism and cynicism aimed at the club, PH in particular, at the moment is way OTT and stinks of deluded entitlement IMO, but at the same time things like this are just embarrassing.
Seems such a long time since we were in the news for something actually positive in some way.

Not aimed at anyone personally in particular, if you read the posts from various individuals it's merely smart arse comments which

[galpharm2400]

The reality of football is that if 'reputation and integrity' really meant anything much then a lot of clubs would never be able to attract another player and there would simply not be the queues of managers lining up to take them over.
Ffs clubs on their arse after years of bad management and being filled with players taking much, much more out than they ever put in, still find someone who thinks they can make a buck.
Silly shirt stunt was merely made 'bad timing' by a shit start from the playing staff.
Over reaction is becoming stupid on here and elsewhere.

[Captainslapper]

Sept 6, 2019 8:55:10 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

The reality of football is that if 'reputation and integrity' really meant anything much then a lot of clubs would never be able to attract another player and there would simply not be the queues of managers lining up to take them over.
Ffs clubs on their arse after years of bad management and being filled with players taking much, much more out than they ever put in, still find someone who thinks they can make a buck.
Silly shirt stunt was merely made 'bad timing' by a shit start from the playing staff.
Over reaction is becoming stupid on here and elsewhere.

...AND following on from what turned into a pretty humiliating season where we went down like a brick in a pond. Lets not forget that.

Not great timing, but Id agree the stunt in itself made no negative difference to anything in the end, certainly not when it comes to attracting players etc

but yesterdays explanations of what went on re- trying to get out of it, is just another in what seems a pretty long list of cack-handed, naive, mistake-ridden examples of how the clubs been run lately.
Don't think its in any way an over-reaction to say that.

Having a reputation of being amateurishly run COULD actually have a negative effect on things that matter.

[Ginger Ogre]

Sept 6, 2019 0:07:37 GMT 1 shawsie said:

I'm not going to comment on the chairmans actions - he makes his own decisions and as I said I respect other opinions.
I dont think it would have created much furore today though had the people paid to represent the club on the field not made such an utter fucking mess of the start to our season.
It's easy blaming paddy power, hodgkinson, rebbe, hoyle et al but the reason we are all so fed up is down to the ineptitude over a long period of coaches and players who have made pain frying ones genitals seem more attractive than a town home game!

You must have a comment on how the Chairman handled all this though, yes he is his own man and makes the decisions but those decisions represent Huddersfield Town as a whole and thus effect how the club is seen from the outside looking in.

You're probably right in regards to the outcry from fans. If we were doing well people would turn a blind eye,but the fact is we aren't, and this is just another fuck up in a long line of fuck ups. It's not good and doesn't help.

It's easy to blame the people who you mention, because they ARE to blame. They are the ones that have employed said coaches, allowed them to buy said players. If you're at the top of any organisation you are ultimately responsible for anything below you. The club as a whole has been underperforming for a long tine and that down to more than the Coaching staff and the players.

[galpharm2400]

Sept 6, 2019 9:16:02 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Sept 6, 2019 8:55:10 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

The reality of football is that if 'reputation and integrity' really meant anything much then a lot of clubs would never be able to attract another player and there would simply not be the queues of managers lining up to take them over.
Ffs clubs on their arse after years of bad management and being filled with players taking much, much more out than they ever put in, still find someone who thinks they can make a buck.
Silly shirt stunt was merely made 'bad timing' by a shit start from the playing staff.
Over reaction is becoming stupid on here and elsewhere.

...AND following on from what turned into a pretty humiliating season where we went down like a brick in a pond. Lets not forget that.

Not great timing, but Id agree the stunt in itself made no negative difference to anything in the end, certainly not when it comes to attracting players etc

but yesterdays explanations of what went on re- trying to get out of it, is just another in what seems a pretty long list of cack-handed, naive, mistake-ridden examples of how the clubs been run lately.
Don't think its in any way an over-reaction to say that.

Having a reputation of being amateurishly run COULD actually have a negative effect on things that matter.

Nobody expected or could forsee Wagner falling out with other senior staff that he actually wanted and wished to be here. Nobody expected him to change his ta tactical plan a week before kick off thereby rendering two fairly pricey acquisitions null and void and nobody in November expected the team to begin a total melt down in performance and application.
We were aware to some degree that Dave had been touting himself since promotion but Dean having to remind him of the opportunity he had been given and the language he had used to get players to come here etc was a little disturbing.
Fast forward to the end of a really poor season in results but worse were the actual performances and it was clear that everyone expected a good number of our 'better players' to leave for good money, it never happened and it ruined any plan to revamp and start over.
Lots of errors but some definitely unforseen circumstances have aligned to make it a difficult time, although I understand a new board will be announced and a few surprises are coming.
Timing is not confined to good comedy, ours has been bad recently but often wasn't anyone in particulars fault.,?
The players are definitely as guilty as anyone else and I am not a supporter of the idea that you only work hard or well for certain people because anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows that your next move up or on will not be helped if you get shitty and wrap your hand in when the going gets tough or does not go your way.
Players here have a chance to impress either a new manager or other clubs for a move, doing neither is cutting off your own nose, I am hoping they are not that daft.

[fran]

The FA’s written reasons included a statement from the referee Martin Coy, who said Huddersfield’s chairman, Phil Hodgkinson, had asked him to ban the kit, which “could then potentially be good publicity and part of the advertising campaign”. Coy said he was “uncomfortable with this and felt it was not my place to ban the kit”. Another clusterfuck from potless Phil

Read more: downatthemac.proboards.com/thread/112981/huddersfield-fined-000-sponsorship-stunt#ixzz5yjpk41T3

[Deleted]

Sept 6, 2019 11:15:15 GMT 1 fran said:

The FA’s written reasons included a statement from the referee Martin Coy, who said Huddersfield’s chairman, Phil Hodgkinson, had asked him to ban the kit, which “could then potentially be good publicity and part of the advertising campaign”. Coy said he was “uncomfortable with this and felt it was not my place to ban the kit”. Another clusterfuck from potless Phil

Read more: downatthemac.proboards.com/thread/112981/huddersfield-fined-000-sponsorship-stunt#ixzz5yjpk41T3

In other news there's a large iceberg threatening shipping in the atlantic.

[artysid]

I read the comments re the fine being bigger than Clubs whose fans sang racist chants, but,

The Boards of those Clubs didn't intentionally encourage their fans to sing racist chants, whereas our Board intentionally planned the sash saga.

Also, if true, I don't understand why we needed the ref to ban them if we didn't really want the players to play with them on. Couldn't we just have asked them to take them off just before the game started?

[Venezuelan Pete]

Sept 6, 2019 12:11:09 GMT 1 artysid said:

I read the comments re the fine being bigger than Clubs whose fans sang racist chants, but,

The Boards of those Clubs didn't intentionally encourage their fans to sing racist chants, whereas our Board intentionally planned the sash saga.

Also, if true, I don't understand why we needed the ref to ban them if we didn't really want the players to play with them on. Couldn't we just have asked them to take them off just before the game started?

Because having the ref ban them would have created more of a marketable story.

[sandgrounder]

Ref banning would also have meant lesser FA charge.

The whole PR stunt hasn’t reflected well on the club and the statement doesn’t, specifically refs comments, don’t reflect well on Phil.

How can we enter into a sponsorship agreement that breaches FA rules is beyond me as they provide template agreements.

crazy and very indicative of where we are at. Sad 

[artysid]

Sept 6, 2019 12:31:42 GMT 1 Venezuelan Pete said:

Sept 6, 2019 12:11:09 GMT 1 artysid said:

I read the comments re the fine being bigger than Clubs whose fans sang racist chants, but,

The Boards of those Clubs didn't intentionally encourage their fans to sing racist chants, whereas our Board intentionally planned the sash saga.

Also, if true, I don't understand why we needed the ref to ban them if we didn't really want the players to play with them on. Couldn't we just have asked them to take them off just before the game started?

Because having the ref ban them would have created more of a marketable story.

I appreciate that, but once the ref had made it clear he wasn't going to be part of our little escapade, surely their was still time to tell the players to take them off?

[Captainslapper]

Sept 6, 2019 10:23:19 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

Sept 6, 2019 9:16:02 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

...AND following on from what turned into a pretty humiliating season where we went down like a brick in a pond. Lets not forget that.

Not great timing, but Id agree the stunt in itself made no negative difference to anything in the end, certainly not when it comes to attracting players etc

but yesterdays explanations of what went on re- trying to get out of it, is just another in what seems a pretty long list of cack-handed, naive, mistake-ridden examples of how the clubs been run lately.
Don't think its in any way an over-reaction to say that.

Having a reputation of being amateurishly run COULD actually have a negative effect on things that matter.

Nobody expected or could forsee Wagner falling out with other senior staff that he actually wanted and wished to be here. Nobody expected him to change his ta tactical plan a week before kick off thereby rendering two fairly pricey acquisitions null and void and nobody in November expected the team to begin a total melt down in performance and application.
We were aware to some degree that Dave had been touting himself since promotion but Dean having to remind him of the opportunity he had been given and the language he had used to get players to come here etc was a little disturbing.
Fast forward to the end of a really poor season in results but worse were the actual performances and it was clear that everyone expected a good number of our 'better players' to leave for good money, it never happened and it ruined any plan to revamp and start over.
Lots of errors but some definitely unforseen circumstances have aligned to make it a difficult time, although I understand a new board will be announced and a few surprises are coming.
Timing is not confined to good comedy, ours has been bad recently but often wasn't anyone in particulars fault.,?
The players are definitely as guilty as anyone else and I am not a supporter of the idea that you only work hard or well for certain people because anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows that your next move up or on will not be helped if you get shitty and wrap your hand in when the going gets tough or does not go your way.
Players here have a chance to impress either a new manager or other clubs for a move, doing neither is cutting off your own nose, I am hoping they are not that daft.

No excuse for the players for either their woeful showing this season or down-tooling last.
Some things are of course beyond the clubs control.

But in the last year or so, we've had -
Another lousy DOF being appointed, failing miserably and being sacked.
The Siewart miserable failure ( we watched him for 3 years apparently.. what exactly did he do in those 3 years to warrant getting the job? )
Paying Barnsley compensation for Winkler then sacking him soon after.
The whole club badge fiasco.
The whole pub-level shirt quality mess.
The Mbenza farce ( and various other signings where we had our pants pulled down).
Going into a vital window with no DOF.

Then add on this humiliating, cack handed, PP episode, where the club has effectively dropped its pants and run round the football world with a rose stuck up its arse at the whim of a sponsor, for an extra £10.

If youre winning, you can largely brush all this aside, but when youre on a run of 4 wins in something like 58 games, it really doesn;t look great.
Weve been a joke on the pitch and a joke off it.

[Venezuelan Pete]

Sept 6, 2019 14:24:39 GMT 1 artysid said:

Sept 6, 2019 12:31:42 GMT 1 Venezuelan Pete said:

Because having the ref ban them would have created more of a marketable story.

I appreciate that, but once the ref had made it clear he wasn't going to be part of our little escapade, surely their was still time to tell the players to take them off?

According to reports, we'd been threatened with legal action (presumably by Paddy Power) if we didn't wear them / attempt to wear them. Hardly a great footing to start our commercial relationship with a sponsor!

[Porrohman]

Sept 5, 2019 23:53:06 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

Sept 5, 2019 23:46:03 GMT 1 Ginger Ogre said:

Its not funny though is it? We've been fined £50K for it.

It's come out the Chairman wanted to back out of it. The man is a CEO of a legal firm but didn't have time to take legal advice, so instead tried to rope an FA OFFICIAL into the whole saga to cover his back once he knew he/we had fucked up and would be punished.

Fans dont care though because we trended in Twitter for a while and had our name splashed all over.

Well who is laughing now? Paddy Power that's who. They've had, in fact still are getting publicity out of all this while we are left looking like utter mugs who haven't a fucking clue what we are doing and are £50K lighter for the whole experience.

You really believe Paddy Power won't cover the fine?

Fairly sure they paid the £70,000 fine Bendtner got for wearing PP boxers at the WC a few years back

[toffeecat]

This really is all pathetic. The circus music is really playing now. And potless is the ring master. Where’s the professionalism?

[Deleted]

Sept 6, 2019 15:09:30 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Sept 5, 2019 23:53:06 GMT 1 @jameshudd72 said:

You really believe Paddy Power won't cover the fine?

Fairly sure they paid the £70,000 fine Bendtner got for wearing PP boxers at the WC a few years back

Pretty sure Paddy Power will come out with something similar when they figure the time is right.

Paddy Power pick up the tab.

[hasta el pueblo]

[Deleted]

Sept 6, 2019 15:15:04 GMT 1 toffeecat said:

This really is all pathetic. The circus music is really playing now. And potless is the ring master. Where’s the professionalism?

I thought he was the tightrope walker............

Not much professionalism, but plenty of clowns.

[Deleted]

Sept 5, 2019 19:36:46 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Sept 5, 2019 18:30:42 GMT 1 Malvern Tom (WAHLS) said:

Listen at the whimps on here. It is/was the club's decision...... The club will pay it...... Maybe the PP company will. Club business, not the fans. UTT

Just a shame we didn't just put something racist on the sash instead, the fine would be much lower 🤬

To be fair weren’t Leeds fined 4x as much because one of their employees, wearing Leeds branded clothing, was hanging about on public property outside the Derby training ground?

[stanton1969]

Sept 5, 2019 22:12:39 GMT 1 HuddsTerrier said:

Sept 5, 2019 21:12:13 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

At the time I was "Meh" and we got a great shirt out of it so who cares. But either we knew we were flouting 50ks worth of rules and did it anyway or we were so naive we didn't know we were doing it

Either way it makes us look a bit shite

Agree total shit show

According to this sky article - www.skysports.com/football/news/11740/11802917/huddersfield-fined-50000-over-paddy-power-shirt-stunt-but-wanted-kit-banned-by-referee - the FA contacted Town ahead of the Rochdale game and said if they wore the kit they’d face a charge.

According to the ref

“the FA had informed HTFC by phone call that it would be a breach of their regulations. “

and the ref is quoted as saying

“ recommend they followed the rules and advice from the FA“

They still then wore the kit

Towns defence apparently was they could get sued. However the contract had some standard boiler plate clause meaning they couldn’t but it seems Town collectively failed to pick up on that clause ahead of the Rochdale game

Is it not the case that if we'd just said we wouldn't wear the kit (having been warned) then there would have been no story (stunt) whatsoever. Getting the ref to tell us not to wear it would have created just enough of a story. The getting sued bit is just a bot of leverage IMHO and probably not true.

Anyway, another £50k for PP to pay for the shirt and their logo having been on the BBC website for days (again) probably looke slike pretty good value to them. That's aside from the story being on Sky, social media, etc. Good value guerilla advertising for PP. That's why I suspect they will have paid the fine, or included an amount in the overall original deal to cover this eventuality.

[hthtafs]

Chairman who owns a legal firm and doesn’t seek legal advice says it all doesn’t it!

[htfcterrier83]

Sept 5, 2019 21:41:20 GMT 1 Hank Hill said:

Reckon they've had this queued up for a while.

Fined more for wearing the wrong clothes than having the wrong social values.

[Captainslapper]

As said by someone else, whilst the offence is obviously worse, Im not sure its a fair comparison.
Millwall FC weren't chanting racist abuse. If some of their support chooses to, theres not much they can do about it accept ban them, which presumably they do if they are identified.
Whereas Huddersfield Town FC were the ones guilty of breaking the rules in our case. Knowingly so and despite warnings.

[town1907]

Sept 7, 2019 11:55:20 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

As said by someone else, whilst the offence is obviously worse, Im not sure its a fair comparison.
Millwall FC weren't chanting racist abuse. If some of their support chooses to, theres not much they can do about it accept ban them, which presumably they do if they are identified.
Whereas Huddersfield Town FC were the ones guilty of breaking the rules in our case. Knowingly so and despite warnings.

Likely to be a similar cost when everything is taken into account.

www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11803591/explained-why-fa-fined-millwall-less-for-racism-than-huddersfield-for-kit

[conman]

Sept 6, 2019 14:31:52 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Sept 6, 2019 10:23:19 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

Nobody expected or could forsee Wagner falling out with other senior staff that he actually wanted and wished to be here. Nobody expected him to change his ta tactical plan a week before kick off thereby rendering two fairly pricey acquisitions null and void and nobody in November expected the team to begin a total melt down in performance and application.
We were aware to some degree that Dave had been touting himself since promotion but Dean having to remind him of the opportunity he had been given and the language he had used to get players to come here etc was a little disturbing.
Fast forward to the end of a really poor season in results but worse were the actual performances and it was clear that everyone expected a good number of our 'better players' to leave for good money, it never happened and it ruined any plan to revamp and start over.
Lots of errors but some definitely unforseen circumstances have aligned to make it a difficult time, although I understand a new board will be announced and a few surprises are coming.
Timing is not confined to good comedy, ours has been bad recently but often wasn't anyone in particulars fault.,?
The players are definitely as guilty as anyone else and I am not a supporter of the idea that you only work hard or well for certain people because anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows that your next move up or on will not be helped if you get shitty and wrap your hand in when the going gets tough or does not go your way.
Players here have a chance to impress either a new manager or other clubs for a move, doing neither is cutting off your own nose, I am hoping they are not that daft.

No excuse for the players for either their woeful showing this season or down-tooling last.
Some things are of course beyond the clubs control.

But in the last year or so, we've had -
Another lousy DOF being appointed, failing miserably and being sacked.
The Siewart miserable failure ( we watched him for 3 years apparently.. what exactly did he do in those 3 years to warrant getting the job? )
Paying Barnsley compensation for Winkler then sacking him soon after.
The whole club badge fiasco.
The whole pub-level shirt quality mess.
The Mbenza farce ( and various other signings where we had our pants pulled down).
Going into a vital window with no DOF.

Then add on this humiliating, cack handed, PP episode, where the club has effectively dropped its pants and run round the football world with a rose stuck up its arse at the whim of a sponsor, for an extra £10.

If youre winning, you can largely brush all this aside, but when youre on a run of 4 wins in something like 58 games, it really doesn;t look great.
Weve been a joke on the pitch and a joke off it.

Excellent post but hey it could be worse, ok maybe not..