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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 15, 2019 14:06:17 GMT 1
It says something when our left back was our most dangerous attacker, but we've got to play Kongolo in central defence. Elphick & Schindler are like a static version of the Chuckle Brothers.
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Post by Armchair Pundit on Sept 15, 2019 14:06:44 GMT 1
Didn't think we deserved to lose that let alone by 2. Same old story really. Anyway, for me: Grabara 6 Flo 5 Schindler 6 Elphick 6 Kongolo 8 O'Brien 9 Hogg 6 Chalobah 7 Diakhaby 6 Grant 7 Campbell 7 My scores grabara 5 Flo 2 Elphick 4 Schindler 5 Kongolo 7 Hogg 4 Chalobah 6 O’Brien 6 Diakhaby 4 Grant 5 Campbell 6 Bacuna 4 Mbemza 4 Mounie 4 |
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Sept 15, 2019 14:07:34 GMT 1
Didn't think we deserved to lose that let alone by 2. Same old story really. Anyway, for me: Grabara 6 Flo 5 Schindler 6 Elphick 6 Kongolo 8 O'Brien 9 Hogg 6 Chalobah 7 Diakhaby 6 Grant 7 Campbell 7 Agree there were some better performances from individuals but still as a team Weds were comfortably in control of that game and deserved the win. I can't think of many decisive contributions O'Brien made, a 9 out of 10 for me should be a match winner. |
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Post by C.H on Sept 15, 2019 14:07:36 GMT 1
They must be wishing they’d stayed in Lincoln. 0-2 fair result, could have been more. The players aren’t good enough, I don’t think any manager could turn this shower of shite around. Why more money??? If Hudds go down get to have a go in league one where Lincoln are |
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Post by stanton1969 on Sept 15, 2019 14:09:07 GMT 1
Controversial.....Hogg is a problem. Slows us down, doesn't add ant value at all going forwards. Most of the others were shite though.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Sept 15, 2019 14:09:20 GMT 1
Defence from now on RB - Bacuna CB - Kongolo CB - Schindler LB - Brown And we need to find a creative midfielder or play Pritchard in there. Agree on bringing Brown back and the need for a decent creator, but Bacuna would be an even greater liability than Flo at right back. No discipline and very error prone, the worst possible traits for a defender. |
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Post by space hardware on Sept 15, 2019 14:10:01 GMT 1
Last season was the kind that can set a club back years. It'll take a massive turnaround to halt this slide now.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 15, 2019 14:10:47 GMT 1
Need some big wins in the next few weeks. Defensively poor. Too slow in the build up, players look to have no belief. Stick together folks, bumpy ride ahead but we've been here before... UTT!!! Really Columbo ? I probably am more Columbo than Poirot. Scruffy bastard, couldn't be arsed about preening my tache... |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 15, 2019 14:10:59 GMT 1
I think there was an improvement of sorts. Better passing in the middle, more movement, more options, Campbell looking busy, Trevor was good, Kongolo decent coming forward. But the whole team is built on a frankly dire back line that wilts under the slightest pressure. What has happened to Schindler? He's listless. After three days I think you can see something. Massive job, but doable. You can definely see something after less than a week. Good runs, good movement and good passing. Our possession high, passes loads higher but without it all being across the back. They were limited to chances (unfortunately took them though) There's definitely something new being tried. However the back is soft as shit. Schindler just isn't good enough at the moment and sadly needs to be dropped. We have no shape still, it's been the problem all season. We lose all shape and have players wandering around out of position, then we lose the ball and we are all over the place. Good managers should fix that quickly. I would drop Schindler. Flo. Elphick. Kongolo. Brown. Kachunga. Chabola. Diakhaby. Bacuna. Campbell. Grant. |
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Post by impact on Sept 15, 2019 14:11:05 GMT 1
Controversial.....Hogg is a problem. Slows us down, doesn't add ant value at all going forwards. Most of the others were shite though. He's the holding midfielder. We should have creative mids in front of him to do that. We don't have any. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 15, 2019 14:12:13 GMT 1
Controversial.....Hogg is a problem. Slows us down, doesn't add ant value at all going forwards. Most of the others were shite though. He's the holding midfielder. We should have creative mids in front of him to do that. We don't have any. Id play chalobah in the DM role. |
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Post by impact on Sept 15, 2019 14:13:57 GMT 1
He's the holding midfielder. We should have creative mids in front of him to do that. We don't have any. Id play chalobah in the DM role. Then who in front? We have the exact same issue then. We just don't have any creativity. |
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Post by Jack on Sept 15, 2019 14:15:33 GMT 1
I think there was an improvement of sorts. Better passing in the middle, more movement, more options, Campbell looking busy, Trevor was good, Kongolo decent coming forward. But the whole team is built on a frankly dire back line that wilts under the slightest pressure. What has happened to Schindler? He's listless. After three days I think you can see something. Massive job, but doable. I'm not quite sure you were trying to be funny there. But you were. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 15, 2019 14:20:19 GMT 1
Schindler and Elphick both terrible today. Bullied by Fletcher
Kongolo in the first half was dire apart from a couple of good runs forward. How can an £18 million player struggle to control a slow ball and look so unsure when passing it down the line. He's never a left back and should never have been put back there. Shocking decision from Cowley and they clearly ignored Hudson's advice who has said many times that Kongolo is a centre half
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Post by impact on Sept 15, 2019 14:23:16 GMT 1
Schindler and Elphick both terrible today. Bullied by Fletcher Kongolo in the first half was dire apart from a couple of good runs forward. How can an £18 million player struggle to control a slow ball and look so unsure when passing it down the line. He's never a left back and should never have been put back there. Shocking decision from Cowley and they clearly ignored Hudson's advice who has said many times that Kongolo is a centre half Schindler coped better than Elphick. He is so clearly past it it's unreal, and he doesn't have the positioning sense or sense of danger to make up for his total lack of pace. |
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Post by ACW on Sept 15, 2019 14:23:25 GMT 1
Schindler and Elphick both terrible today. Bullied by Fletcher Kongolo in the first half was dire apart from a couple of good runs forward. How can an £18 million player struggle to control a slow ball and look so unsure when passing it down the line. He's never a left back and should never have been put back there. Shocking decision from Cowley and they clearly ignored Hudson's advice who has said many times that Kongolo is a centre half And I don't see what Brown has done wrong either. |
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Post by linson on Sept 15, 2019 14:23:56 GMT 1
I think I'd want to try
Bacuna Schindler Stankovic Kongolo
O'Brien Chalobah Pritchard
Campbell Grant Diakhaby
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Post by PellonTerrier on Sept 15, 2019 14:24:45 GMT 1
Team for West Brom
Grab
Anyone else
Elphick
Kongolo
Brown
Chalobah
Bacuna
O' Brien
Grant
Campbell
Mounie
Diakhaby Mbenza and Pritch for on the bench if we see a specific weakness or area we can hurt them
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Post by digs on Sept 15, 2019 14:26:26 GMT 1
Last season is done. Get over it! Can you tell the players that while your at it.. no let's just pretend it's only 7 games in and it will be fine |
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Post by PellonTerrier on Sept 15, 2019 14:26:40 GMT 1
I think Elphick game is affected badly by Flo he always looks completely unsure where he is and has one eye on covering for him.
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Post by sonny on Sept 15, 2019 14:27:19 GMT 1
Well, if the new management team were under any illusions about the scale of their task then that should have got rid of them. The level of ineptitude was truly shocking. Not one player worth keeping apart from Chalobah. Mind you, playing Kongolo and Grant out of position was not the brightest idea. Perhaps when the Cowleys have their conversation with the tea lady she might mention it.
Such a shame they couldn't have taken over before the window closed. Nothing to be done with these players other than get rid. As they say, if the people can't change, then change the people. Bold statements needed. Dropping the tragic Schindler and the repeatedly useless Hogg might be a start.
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Post by linson on Sept 15, 2019 14:27:45 GMT 1
Didn't think we deserved to lose that let alone by 2. Same old story really. Anyway, for me: Grabara 4 Flo 3 Schindler 5 Elphick 1 Kongolo 3 O'Brien 4 Hogg 3 Chalobah 6 Diakhaby 1 Grant 4 Campbell 6 Thats mine. I assume you're a WUM. Possession - Home 62% Away 38% Shots - Home 9 Away 13 Shots on Target - Home 6 Away 4 Corners - Home 3 Away 3 Fouls - Home 8 Away 14 Yes mate, I'm a WUM.  Anyway, read these stats and continue to pretend there are no positives. If our players genuinely had those ratings how do the stats reflect that? |
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Post by impact on Sept 15, 2019 14:28:12 GMT 1
Thats mine. I assume you're a WUM. Possession - Home 62% Away 38% Shots - Home 9 Away 13 Shots on Target - Home 6 Away 4 Corners - Home 3 Away 3 Fouls - Home 8 Away 14 Yes mate, I'm a WUM. Anyway, read these stats and continue to pretend there are no positives. If our players genuinely had those ratings how do the stats reflect that? If you're not a WUM, you're deluded. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 15, 2019 14:28:17 GMT 1
Schindler and Elphick both terrible today. Bullied by Fletcher Kongolo in the first half was dire apart from a couple of good runs forward. How can an £18 million player struggle to control a slow ball and look so unsure when passing it down the line. He's never a left back and should never have been put back there. Shocking decision from Cowley and they clearly ignored Hudson's advice who has said many times that Kongolo is a centre half What a load of rubbish. Kongolo was our best player in the first half! |
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Post by Floyds on Sept 15, 2019 14:28:26 GMT 1
It’s been said countless times but we need to see what we can do in the free agents market. Too many issues all over the pitch and if we wait until January we’ll be adrift, writing off the season and hoping to “win a few games” in League One next season.
Pep couldn’t sort this shower out.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 15, 2019 14:29:24 GMT 1
Schindler and Elphick both terrible today. Bullied by Fletcher Kongolo in the first half was dire apart from a couple of good runs forward. How can an £18 million player struggle to control a slow ball and look so unsure when passing it down the line. He's never a left back and should never have been put back there. Shocking decision from Cowley and they clearly ignored Hudson's advice who has said many times that Kongolo is a centre half What a load of rubbish. Kongolo was our best player in the first half! Despite constantly giving the ball away when on the touchline and letting the ball roll under his foot. He killed the momentum constantly with daft errors He had a couple of great runs though but that doesn't mean you judt forget all the errors before it |
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Post by impact on Sept 15, 2019 14:30:08 GMT 1
Schindler and Elphick both terrible today. Bullied by Fletcher Kongolo in the first half was dire apart from a couple of good runs forward. How can an £18 million player struggle to control a slow ball and look so unsure when passing it down the line. He's never a left back and should never have been put back there. Shocking decision from Cowley and they clearly ignored Hudson's advice who has said many times that Kongolo is a centre half What a load of rubbish. Kongolo was our best player in the first half! You what? He created a chance but apart from that he was poor. Misplaced passes, caught out of position, no threat from the flank. |
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Post by stanton1969 on Sept 15, 2019 14:32:07 GMT 1
I think there was an improvement of sorts. Better passing in the middle, more movement, more options, Campbell looking busy, Trevor was good, Kongolo decent coming forward. But the whole team is built on a frankly dire back line that wilts under the slightest pressure. What has happened to Schindler? He's listless. After three days I think you can see something. Massive job, but doable. You can definely see something after less than a week. Good runs, good movement and good passing. Our possession high, passes loads higher but without it all being across the back. They were limited to chances (unfortunately took them though) There's definitely something new being tried. However the back is soft as shit. Schindler just isn't good enough at the moment and sadly needs to be dropped. We have no shape still, it's been the problem all season. We lose all shape and have players wandering around out of position, then we lose the ball and we are all over the place. Good managers should fix that quickly. I would drop Schindler. Flo. Elphick. Kongolo. Brown. Kachunga. Chabola. Diakhaby. Bacuna. Campbell. Grant. No Flo for me. Simply awful. Stank for Elphick. He's (Elphick) awful as well. The Diakbenza experiment is a total failure. Move on and ship em out. Pritchard needs to start. He's not our worst player. Campbell and Grant will get goals with the right 8 players behind them. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 14:32:58 GMT 1
Get Duhaney, J.Brown, Koroma, R.Brown all involved either in the team or as subs,replace Flo with Duhaney, get Kongolo at centre half, leave Elphick at Canalside in a locker and drop Flo off at the airport.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 15, 2019 14:33:50 GMT 1
What a load of rubbish. Kongolo was our best player in the first half! Despite constantly giving the ball away when on the touchline and letting the ball roll under his foot. He killed the momentum constantly with daft errors He had a couple of great runs though but that doesn't mean you judt forget all the errors before it He let one ball run under his foot. The lack of movement from others down the left were the cause of what appeared to be aimless balls. Kongolo was both our best forward and defender. I'd change you username if I were you to somebody who was genuinely shite, such as Hadergjonaj, Elphick, Schindler or Diakhaby. |
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