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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 20:02:23 GMT 1
Had an excellent scoring record at Colchester. Looked a decent player.
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Post by jqhtfc on Dec 3, 2019 21:03:51 GMT 1
Probably because we’re skint! Someone please explain to me how we are skint. Is it wages? Is it the new ownership deal? Approx 40 million parachute payment for year one followed by 35 mil and 15 mil for years 2 and 3 and we’re skint!! Maybe I’m being a bit thick or maybe I’ve missed an explanation on here.... Does my nut in. According to Phil the parachute money has pretty much all been taken up! Deals for players spread out over 3 years plus wages etc
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Post by midlander on Dec 3, 2019 21:08:19 GMT 1
Szmodics always looked to be a very good player in the final third, certainly above Lg2 Level quality-wise. Bristol City clearly don't see him as'top end Championship' ready atm. A loan deal would make sense to see if he can buy into the club and the Cowleys ethic. Could certainly rotate with Pritchard, or play from wide right in a 4-3-3
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Post by nicovaesen on Dec 3, 2019 21:26:28 GMT 1
So we’ve spent all the money then? Does that mean we are back to where we started pre Wagner days? Championship relegation fodder?
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Post by willo on Dec 3, 2019 21:31:14 GMT 1
Someone please explain to me how we are skint. Is it wages? Is it the new ownership deal? Approx 40 million parachute payment for year one followed by 35 mil and 15 mil for years 2 and 3 and we’re skint!! Maybe I’m being a bit thick or maybe I’ve missed an explanation on here.... Does my nut in. According to Phil the parachute money has pretty much all been taken up! Deals for players spread out over 3 years plus wages etc I just about swallow the reasons for our lack of money but then part of me refuses to accept we can be skint after 2 years in the greedy league. Really, where has it all gone? I just don’t buy it. Sorry. And if it is properly true, hell have we squandered some cash!
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 3, 2019 21:36:55 GMT 1
I Thought this had been done to death
The parachute payments are effectively being used to pay back Dean Hoyle his 50+ million loan
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Post by loumacari on Dec 3, 2019 21:44:10 GMT 1
I Thought this had been done to death The parachute payments are effectively being used to pay back Dean Hoyle his 50+ million loan In other words, Phil gets a debt free club for not very much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 21:47:15 GMT 1
I Thought this had been done to death The parachute payments are effectively being used to pay back Dean Hoyle his 50+ million loan How much parachute money do we get over the three years?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 3, 2019 21:52:33 GMT 1
I Thought this had been done to death The parachute payments are effectively being used to pay back Dean Hoyle his 50+ million loan How much parachute money do we get over the three years? Enough to pay back Dean plus a bit of change to pay a bunch of wasters ridiculous money until we can bin them off
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Post by Ross83 on Dec 3, 2019 22:01:06 GMT 1
FFS can't help but feel pissed off and completely underwhelmed at the prospect of loaning a player who can't get in a team we should be challenging alongside.
Fucking ridiculous planning and recruitment, albeit with some asshole primadonas thrown in to fuck us over some more, past and present.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 22:07:45 GMT 1
How much parachute money do we get over the three years? Enough to pay back Dean plus a bit of change to pay a bunch of wasters ridiculous money until we can bin them off In other words, assuming you're right about Dean receiving his full payout from said parachute payments that leaves about £40 million. Can't see the 'wasters' taking all that.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 3, 2019 22:08:58 GMT 1
Szmodics always looked to be a very good player in the final third, certainly above Lg2 Level quality-wise. Bristol City clearly don't see him as'top end Championship' ready atm. A loan deal would make sense to see if he can buy into the club and the Cowleys ethic. Could certainly rotate with Pritchard, or play from wide right in a 4-3-3 It could be lazy journalism after people watched that BT documentary on the Cowleys from 2018 when they won league two and were micd up for the last game against Colchester. Their pre match meetings were full of praise for Colchester and how they should have been promoted easily with the quality of players in their squad Or there could actually be something in it
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Post by space hardware on Dec 3, 2019 22:46:52 GMT 1
This time last year we were a Premier League club with a half decent chance of consolidating there.
Now we're looking at signing players from fucking Peterborough and Fleetwood to help us stave off relegation to division 3.
Brilliant.
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Post by nicovaesen on Dec 3, 2019 22:50:35 GMT 1
This time last year we were a Premier League club with a half decent chance of consolidating there. Now we're looking at signing players from fucking Peterborough and Fleetwood to help us stave off relegation to division 3. Brilliant. That makes me depressed
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 3, 2019 22:54:19 GMT 1
Enough to pay back Dean plus a bit of change to pay a bunch of wasters ridiculous money until we can bin them off In other words, assuming you're right about Dean receiving his full payout from said parachute payments that leaves about £40 million. Can't see the 'wasters' taking all that. I fail to see how we can be skint. Even if most of the parachute payments were heading to Dean, we still received over 20 million in the summer and we're due some nice windfalls shortly for Mooy, Grant and potentially O'Brien. Plus we'll get some money in for Kongolo, Mounie, Mbenza and Diakhaby although it'll be a fraction of what we paid for them We should be in a strong position to put together a good side over the next two windows
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Post by Maynardblue on Dec 3, 2019 22:56:14 GMT 1
FFS can't help but feel pissed off and completely underwhelmed at the prospect of loaning a player who can't get in a team we should be challenging alongside. Fucking ridiculous planning and recruitment, albeit with some asshole primadonas thrown in to fuck us over some more, past and present. Calm down. No interest in smodzics. Loans will be premier league
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Post by Maynardblue on Dec 3, 2019 22:57:24 GMT 1
And we aren't skint.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 22:59:47 GMT 1
In other words, assuming you're right about Dean receiving his full payout from said parachute payments that leaves about £40 million. Can't see the 'wasters' taking all that. I fail to see how we can be skint. Even if most of the parachute payments were heading to Dean, we still received over 20 million in the summer and we're due some nice windfalls shortly for Mooy, Grant and potentially O'Brien. Plus we'll get some money in for Kongolo, Mounie, Mbenza and Diakhaby although it'll be a fraction of what we paid for them We should be in a strong position to put together a good side over the next two windows I don't believe the club are that naive they'll reveal our true financial state.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 0:37:07 GMT 1
It suits us all to broadcast we’re skint. What the hell to folk expect, PH to say ‘it’s nonsense, we’re minted!’?
Keep your toys in the pram and wait to see what plays out. What happened to patience, enjoying the ride and taking the rough with the smooth?
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Post by Ross83 on Dec 4, 2019 8:22:12 GMT 1
FFS can't help but feel pissed off and completely underwhelmed at the prospect of loaning a player who can't get in a team we should be challenging alongside. Fucking ridiculous planning and recruitment, albeit with some asshole primadonas thrown in to fuck us over some more, past and present. Calm down. No interest in smodzics. Loans will be premier league Music to my ears, thanks for putting mine and a lot of others mind at ease 😁
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Post by htfcfcfc on Dec 4, 2019 11:23:14 GMT 1
I can’t believe we’re skint but the fact that we will be unable to shift any of our big signings for close to what we’ve paid for them means we’re not going to see the full benefit of what should have set us up for decades. Only Mooy is likely to pay out and he’s pushing 30 so unlikely will be much more than we paid for him
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 13:05:31 GMT 1
Probably because we’re skint! Someone please explain to me how we are skint. Is it wages? Is it the new ownership deal? Approx 40 million parachute payment for year one followed by 35 mil and 15 mil for years 2 and 3 and we’re skint!! Maybe I’m being a bit thick or maybe I’ve missed an explanation on here.... Does my nut in. Parachutes are to pay for your EPL contracts so you don’t collapse whilst transitioning. We’re a Championship club with turnover around £15m is the new reality that the club has to adapt to.
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Post by terriers321 on Dec 4, 2019 13:46:33 GMT 1
I can’t believe we’re skint but the fact that we will be unable to shift any of our big signings for close to what we’ve paid for them means we’re not going to see the full benefit of what should have set us up for decades. Only Mooy is likely to pay out and he’s pushing 30 so unlikely will be much more than we paid for him I dont get all these players who supposedly have a stinking attitude either. One or two maybe but including last seasons players we had a team worth that had been labelled dossers. Surely its beneficial for a move for them to be playing as well as they can or at least putting effort in. Maybe they're just shite and our scouts/recruitment team need a bullet.
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Post by Mav on Dec 4, 2019 13:57:08 GMT 1
Someone please explain to me how we are skint. Is it wages? Is it the new ownership deal? Approx 40 million parachute payment for year one followed by 35 mil and 15 mil for years 2 and 3 and we’re skint!! Maybe I’m being a bit thick or maybe I’ve missed an explanation on here.... Does my nut in. Parachutes are to pay for your EPL contracts so you don’t collapse whilst transitioning. We’re a Championship club with turnover around £15m is the new reality that the club has to adapt to. It’s OK mate .... just seen Maynards post.
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Post by Uddersfield on Dec 5, 2019 17:22:31 GMT 1
Just recalled Redmonds-Green, Demeaco Duhaney, Scott High and Ben Jackson all from their loans.. First team chance? Or better loans for them in place?
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Post by Terry Jacko on Dec 5, 2019 17:29:05 GMT 1
Just recalled Redmonds-Green, Demeaco Duhaney, Scott High and Ben Jackson all from their loans.. First team chance? Or better loans for them in place? Not sure how much you can read into it but all four have decent comments about them on Twitter, we need the full back options definitely at the moment.
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Post by crux on Dec 5, 2019 17:36:38 GMT 1
Just recalled Redmonds-Green, Demeaco Duhaney, Scott High and Ben Jackson all from their loans.. First team chance? Or better loans for them in place? Not sure how much you can read into it but all four have decent comments about them on Twitter, we need the full back options definitely at the moment. I think we'd probably want to assess their improvement (or not) and then look to loan them out at a higher level. But I also suspect they may be used to pad out the first team squad and bench until we get through to the transfer window. We could see those about to leave the club no longer appearing on the bench for the rest of this month.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 17:40:30 GMT 1
Just recalled Redmonds-Green, Demeaco Duhaney, Scott High and Ben Jackson all from their loans.. First team chance? Or better loans for them in place? Not sure how much you can read into it but all four have decent comments about them on Twitter, we need the full back options definitely at the moment. You would not terminate productive loans early unless they were to be used in the squad.
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 5, 2019 17:55:57 GMT 1
Just recalled Redmonds-Green, Demeaco Duhaney, Scott High and Ben Jackson all from their loans.. First team chance? Or better loans for them in place? If it was better loans, I'd expect them to stay at their clubs until the end of this month.
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Post by Terry Jacko on Dec 5, 2019 17:57:45 GMT 1
Between the four of them they cover both full back positions, centre back and centre mid, exactly where we have been hit recently.
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