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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Dec 8, 2019 10:27:08 GMT 1
If you want to think that then good on you but I’m sure I heard scum singing about us today. Anyway like I said last season on here the season isn’t over and anything can happen and we could fall apart again. My god, your support arnt half a set of deluded fools. If you do go up this season. It's your biggest achievement in two decades. Look at the clubs and the size and stature of some of them that have got to the premiership in the last 20 years. Some of them numerous times. Kind of puts into perspective where you are at as a club. Especially when your own supporters like to put you on a par with the likes of Man Utd, City, Chelsea etc. And for some bizarre reason your supporters dont contemplate relegation if you go up either. Judging by your support yesterday you will be better suited to the premiership anyway. Very flat, mellow, Prawn sandwich esque. they were singing we hadn't won anything, yet we have won playoff final trophies something that l..ds always seem to bottle for some reason. anyhoo i wish them good fortune. they will need it because if they think they are the best team in this division they will be in for another harsh awakening and soon. their support knew thats why they were so subdued. imagine a makeshift team like ours giving them a scare.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 8, 2019 10:27:44 GMT 1
Not seen it mentioned on here but Togs sign off after the game 🤣👏👏👏👏👏 Everyone had gone home by then.
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Post by bigtruck on Dec 8, 2019 10:27:55 GMT 1
Not seen it mentioned on here but Togs sign off after the game 🤣👏👏👏👏👏 Got to love Tog. His opening gambit of not sure why we haven’t played for 2 years was just as good as the see you next year 😉
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Post by sapphireblue on Dec 8, 2019 10:29:46 GMT 1
Not seen it mentioned on here but Togs sign off after the game 🤣👏👏👏👏👏 If correct it is a shame . Don't think he was "signing off" apart from the game itself. It was the "safe journey to the Leeds fans and we'll see you all next season" that amused.
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Post by hthtafs on Dec 8, 2019 10:53:52 GMT 1
A lot to be pleased about yesterday, a fully motivated side who I’m told, reduced the top of the table side to arguably their most laboured performance of the season. Looking at things objectively, the better side won the game, however with a player like Hernandez, yesterday’s side, showing that type of passion will be playing championship football next season.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Dec 8, 2019 10:55:05 GMT 1
If correct it is a shame . Don't think he was "signing off" apart from the game itself. It was the " safe journey to the Leeds fans and we'll see you all next season" that amused. That is very good.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 8, 2019 10:58:58 GMT 1
If correct it is a shame . Don't think he was "signing off" apart from the game itself. It was the "safe journey to the Leeds fans and we'll see you all next season" that amused. Unfortunately I was half way up Leeds Road.
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Post by hypotenuse on Dec 8, 2019 11:05:05 GMT 1
Reflecting on the game, I am very proud of the performance yesterday. Despite the decimation of the team due to injuries, suspension and ‘unavailability’, everyone gave their all for the team. On another day, with the chances made, we get a much better result. Leeds scored a wonder goal which could hardly be described as a chance and a good team goal for the second but made few clear chances. We missed some sitters. What a shame that Grant had a stinker yesterday. One or two of our players yesterday found the physicality of the Championship but still played a part (eg Koroma who set up two great chances) but there were two standout performances for me - Stankovic who looked every inch a Premier League player (probably won’t make it due to lack of pace) with great control, effortlessly out-muscling Leeds players and passing beautifully and the only reason he wasn’t MoM being a terrific performance from Bacuna who is premier league standard, has good feet superb delivery from set paces and a confidence that scares teams. The Cowley’s sent out a message to the owners yesterday regarding the January transfer window - let us hope the club listen.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Dec 8, 2019 11:09:04 GMT 1
Poor game generally, very bitty. Both pressed well breaking up any cohesion. Hogg...woeful...so many poor and stray passes. Still brilliant at blaming others straight after though. 5 star. Kachunga continues to steal a living and the photos he has of Wagner in a compromising position must have been doctored to include the Cowleys. Koroma and Duhaney were lost. Stankovic...as useless on the ball as Zanka. Mounie and Bacuna ineffectual. Considering we had so many changes and so many off the pace its surprising how much we were in the game. L**ds...nothing special. Thougth Alioski was cute...a good little player. Oh dear Oti. Think you get a fair bit of unfair stick on here from time to time but you’ve had a mare there. Hogg, we all know his frailties in playing the ball but still the best ball winner we have; Kach, gives 100pc every game but his goal stats are woeful; Koroma & Duhaney are young lads with fewer than 10 games for Town between them, give them a chance; Stankovic, composed and reads the game well and one of two players Wagner absolutely wanted when he came. Would agree he can get bullied at times so needs to toughen up; Mounie better today, certainly first half but his future lies elsewhere; Bacuna is now a mainstay in the team and keeps improving, certainly wouldn’t be getting shot of him. Don’t forget, Koroma and Duhaney were only playing due to injuries to others and Flo was playing out of position. Given this, thought we did ok today and as you admit, leeds were nothing special. Will agree with you on Alioski though, been impressed with him for some time. About 70 minutes in Hogg gave it away 3 times in a minute...always 10 yards passes to someone with a man up their arse. Guess who he blamed? It needed a big step up from Bacuna...he was largely invisible...could turn in to a top player though. He could have been sent off twice in a minute...pushed a guy in to the hoardings then stamped on another in frustration...both missed by the officials. Stankovic does not get games because he is slow on the ball...not saying he had a bad game at all but he will never be a mainstay of our team. 20 appearances in 3.5 years...ask yourself why. Kachunga will be released and will retire...my prediction. We did OK considering the changes but we lost at home by two goals to an average side....what does that tell you about us.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 8, 2019 11:10:58 GMT 1
Reflecting on the game, I am very proud of the performance yesterday. Despite the decimation of the team due to injuries, suspension and ‘unavailability’, everyone gave their all for the team. On another day, with the chances made, we get a much better result. Leeds scored a wonder goal which could hardly be described as a chance and a good team goal for the second but made few clear chances. We missed some sitters. What a shame that Grant had a stinker yesterday. One or two of our players yesterday found the physicality of the Championship but still played a part (eg Koroma who set up two great chances) but there were two standout performances for me - Stankovic who looked every inch a Premier League player (probably won’t make it due to lack of pace) with great control, effortlessly out-muscling Leeds players and passing beautifully and the only reason he wasn’t MoM being a terrific performance from Bacuna who is premier league standard, has good feet superb delivery from set paces and a confidence that scares teams. The Cowley’s sent out a message to the owners yesterday regarding the January transfer window - let us hope the club listen. Those 2 free kicks near the end were superbly delivered. Unfortunately on the odd occasion we put a decent ball in no one gets on the end of them. Except Kachunga unfortunately.
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Post by ant83 on Dec 8, 2019 11:23:05 GMT 1
their support knew thats why they were so subdued. imagine a makeshift team like ours giving them a scare. haha Leeds didn’t even play with a recognised centre half yesterday. Two fullbacks at centre back, our best centre half playing in midfield, our Captain out injured and our best player, and probably best midfielder in the whole league, out suspended. Our bench was nearly all u23s. And we were the away team. But yeah sure, you were makeshift.
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Post by willo on Dec 8, 2019 12:38:49 GMT 1
Oh dear Oti. Think you get a fair bit of unfair stick on here from time to time but you’ve had a mare there. Hogg, we all know his frailties in playing the ball but still the best ball winner we have; Kach, gives 100pc every game but his goal stats are woeful; Koroma & Duhaney are young lads with fewer than 10 games for Town between them, give them a chance; Stankovic, composed and reads the game well and one of two players Wagner absolutely wanted when he came. Would agree he can get bullied at times so needs to toughen up; Mounie better today, certainly first half but his future lies elsewhere; Bacuna is now a mainstay in the team and keeps improving, certainly wouldn’t be getting shot of him. Don’t forget, Koroma and Duhaney were only playing due to injuries to others and Flo was playing out of position. Given this, thought we did ok today and as you admit, leeds were nothing special. Will agree with you on Alioski though, been impressed with him for some time. About 70 minutes in Hogg gave it away 3 times in a minute...always 10 yards passes to someone with a man up their arse. Guess who he blamed? It needed a big step up from Bacuna...he was largely invisible...could turn in to a top player though. He could have been sent off twice in a minute...pushed a guy in to the hoardings then stamped on another in frustration...both missed by the officials. Stankovic does not get games because he is slow on the ball...not saying he had a bad game at all but he will never be a mainstay of our team. 20 appearances in 3.5 years...ask yourself why. Kachunga will be released and will retire...my prediction. We did OK considering the changes but we lost at home by two goals to an average side....what does that tell you about us. Just think you’re concentrating on all the negatives. Stank has missed a season of football due a bad injury whilst away on international duty and then found himself behind Zanka in the pecking order hence little game time. We have not replaced Mooy and so have little attacking guile, hopefully this will be addressed in January. Leeds have Hernandez and a player like that can be the difference on the day. Again, just think you need to be a little more realistic with your expectation levels right now. We will improve under the Cowleys, give it 2/3 transfer windows and some time mate.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 8, 2019 13:07:20 GMT 1
Oh dear Oti. Think you get a fair bit of unfair stick on here from time to time but you’ve had a mare there. Hogg, we all know his frailties in playing the ball but still the best ball winner we have; Kach, gives 100pc every game but his goal stats are woeful; Koroma & Duhaney are young lads with fewer than 10 games for Town between them, give them a chance; Stankovic, composed and reads the game well and one of two players Wagner absolutely wanted when he came. Would agree he can get bullied at times so needs to toughen up; Mounie better today, certainly first half but his future lies elsewhere; Bacuna is now a mainstay in the team and keeps improving, certainly wouldn’t be getting shot of him. Don’t forget, Koroma and Duhaney were only playing due to injuries to others and Flo was playing out of position. Given this, thought we did ok today and as you admit, leeds were nothing special. Will agree with you on Alioski though, been impressed with him for some time. About 70 minutes in Hogg gave it away 3 times in a minute...always 10 yards passes to someone with a man up their arse. Guess who he blamed? It needed a big step up from Bacuna...he was largely invisible...could turn in to a top player though. He could have been sent off twice in a minute...pushed a guy in to the hoardings then stamped on another in frustration...both missed by the officials. Stankovic does not get games because he is slow on the ball...not saying he had a bad game at all but he will never be a mainstay of our team. 20 appearances in 3.5 years...ask yourself why. Kachunga will be released and will retire...my prediction. We did OK considering the changes but we lost at home by two goals to an average side....what does that tell you about us. That twat he pushed into the hoardings was trying to get the ball to stop us taking a throw, he had no business being there and deserved everything he got.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 8, 2019 13:13:39 GMT 1
About 70 minutes in Hogg gave it away 3 times in a minute...always 10 yards passes to someone with a man up their arse. Guess who he blamed? It needed a big step up from Bacuna...he was largely invisible...could turn in to a top player though. He could have been sent off twice in a minute...pushed a guy in to the hoardings then stamped on another in frustration...both missed by the officials. Stankovic does not get games because he is slow on the ball...not saying he had a bad game at all but he will never be a mainstay of our team. 20 appearances in 3.5 years...ask yourself why. Kachunga will be released and will retire...my prediction. We did OK considering the changes but we lost at home by two goals to an average side....what does that tell you about us. That twat he pushed into the hoardings was trying to get the ball to stop us taking a throw, he had no business being there and deserved everything he got. Funny when he did that. It was right in front of the linesman too. Mind you that twat missed everything else
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Post by Malvern Tom (WAHLS) on Dec 8, 2019 14:38:49 GMT 1
Nobody sees you as a cup final, you arrogant deluded fool. You're not special and you're no better than any of the other 71 teams in the football league. You might actually make it up this time around, but if so you'll do it on merit not because you're a "big club". We’re top of the league we’re top of the league we’re Leeds United we’re top of the league Mind the gap No you're not.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Dec 8, 2019 18:09:46 GMT 1
About 70 minutes in Hogg gave it away 3 times in a minute...always 10 yards passes to someone with a man up their arse. Guess who he blamed? It needed a big step up from Bacuna...he was largely invisible...could turn in to a top player though. He could have been sent off twice in a minute...pushed a guy in to the hoardings then stamped on another in frustration...both missed by the officials. Stankovic does not get games because he is slow on the ball...not saying he had a bad game at all but he will never be a mainstay of our team. 20 appearances in 3.5 years...ask yourself why. Kachunga will be released and will retire...my prediction. We did OK considering the changes but we lost at home by two goals to an average side....what does that tell you about us. Just think you’re concentrating on all the negatives. Stank has missed a season of football due a bad injury whilst away on international duty and then found himself behind Zanka in the pecking order hence little game time. We have not replaced Mooy and so have little attacking guile, hopefully this will be addressed in January. Leeds have Hernandez and a player like that can be the difference on the day. Again, just think you need to be a little more realistic with your expectation levels right now. We will improve under the Cowleys, give it 2/3 transfer windows and some time mate. I don't think my expectations are too high Willo….I have seen 2 home wins in 40 matches attended!! We have spaffed £220 mill and sit one place above relegation....that's simply nowhere near good enough. Apart from Hull 3-0 (a game we could have lost by the way) I have not been present when we scored 3 since Palace away. That's shocking. Even the Cowleys were picking Elphick ahead of Stank...he is not good enough with the ball at this level. Defending is only part of the game. Little attacking guile? Well you wont have with strikers that don't shoot and one with a single goal in two years. Our squad would not win Division 1 ...I am certain of it and to say we were in the Prem recently that is appalling.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Dec 8, 2019 18:11:29 GMT 1
About 70 minutes in Hogg gave it away 3 times in a minute...always 10 yards passes to someone with a man up their arse. Guess who he blamed? It needed a big step up from Bacuna...he was largely invisible...could turn in to a top player though. He could have been sent off twice in a minute...pushed a guy in to the hoardings then stamped on another in frustration...both missed by the officials. Stankovic does not get games because he is slow on the ball...not saying he had a bad game at all but he will never be a mainstay of our team. 20 appearances in 3.5 years...ask yourself why. Kachunga will be released and will retire...my prediction. We did OK considering the changes but we lost at home by two goals to an average side....what does that tell you about us. That twat he pushed into the hoardings was trying to get the ball to stop us taking a throw, he had no business being there and deserved everything he got. Not the point...it was a sending off. I don't care if he had grabbed the ball and run out of the stadium with it....Bacuna is a silly hot-head and he will cost us more points through it...mark my words.
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Post by workshyfop on Dec 8, 2019 18:29:12 GMT 1
Oh dear Oti. Think you get a fair bit of unfair stick on here from time to time but you’ve had a mare there. Hogg, we all know his frailties in playing the ball but still the best ball winner we have; Kach, gives 100pc every game but his goal stats are woeful; Koroma & Duhaney are young lads with fewer than 10 games for Town between them, give them a chance; Stankovic, composed and reads the game well and one of two players Wagner absolutely wanted when he came. Would agree he can get bullied at times so needs to toughen up; Mounie better today, certainly first half but his future lies elsewhere; Bacuna is now a mainstay in the team and keeps improving, certainly wouldn’t be getting shot of him. Don’t forget, Koroma and Duhaney were only playing due to injuries to others and Flo was playing out of position. Given this, thought we did ok today and as you admit, leeds were nothing special. Will agree with you on Alioski though, been impressed with him for some time. About 70 minutes in Hogg gave it away 3 times in a minute...always 10 yards passes to someone with a man up their arse. Guess who he blamed? It needed a big step up from Bacuna...he was largely invisible...could turn in to a top player though. He could have been sent off twice in a minute...pushed a guy in to the hoardings then stamped on another in frustration...both missed by the officials. Stankovic does not get games because he is slow on the ball...not saying he had a bad game at all but he will never be a mainstay of our team. 20 appearances in 3.5 years...ask yourself why. Kachunga will be released and will retire...my prediction. We did OK considering the changes but we lost at home by two goals to an average side....what does that tell you about us. Kachunga won’t retire at 27/28 I wouldn’t imagine. One of his better games yesterday, which probably says it all. Back to the German lower divisions (maybe 2. Bundesliga if he’s lucky). Stankovic probably had his best game in a Town shirt, so let’s hope he can push on and fill some of the potential Wagner had spotted. Grant was shocking unfortunately, poor touch and would be surprised if he got a big move at this stage in his career. He’s a work in progress, but with the Cowleys’ coaching he could get there. Same with Bacuna, loads of ability if he can channel it, keep working and improving. Flo did ok for once, until he gets in a position to cross and then he’s woeful and I fear the experiment to turn him into a winger is doomed from the off. Some glimpses of the future from the young lads, who did well enough in the circumstances.
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 8, 2019 21:07:31 GMT 1
The only possible justification I can see for this comment is you're trying to make your Billing to Bury comment the second most stupid thing ever posted on Down At The Mac. He frightens the life out of me with it at his feet....just occasionally he sets off and I always fear him tripping over it. No close control and slow to move it. The worst natural footballer today...not saying the worst footballer. Have you considered (injury aside) why he has 20 appearance in well over 3 years? Firstly, how can you say "injuries aside". They are the main reason for the lack of appearances. You should also remember that over his time here, Centre Back has hardly been our biggest issue. Ahead of him have been two record signings, a Danish international and THE cult hero of recent times. Was it ever likely he'd find it easy to force his way in the team? Stankovic clearly has weaknesses. I think he lacks pace and before the the last three home games I would have had concerns over his ability to cope with the physical aspect of his role (but the way he stood up to Juktiewicz, Baston & Bamford has possibly allayed those fears). However to suggest he's not good on the ball is just WRONG. Have a pop over to the Stankovic thread and see what your fellow fans think. To a (virtual) man they're praising how comfortable he is on the ball. .....but hey ho you've never been wrong about a player have you Oti?
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Post by space hardware on Dec 8, 2019 21:17:56 GMT 1
That twat he pushed into the hoardings was trying to get the ball to stop us taking a throw, he had no business being there and deserved everything he got. Funny when he did that. It was right in front of the linesman too. Mind you that twat missed everything else That bell end on the Kilner side? He was beyond inept.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Dec 8, 2019 21:31:30 GMT 1
Remember Bamford missed two easy ones as well. I remember a header in the second half that he totally misjudged but which was the other? He also had perfectly good goal chalked off. My mate watched on SKY and replays showed that the offside decision was wrong - the goal should have stood. But, yes - he's a Grade 1 Tw@ of the First Order who inexplicably also avoided a booking despite endless niggling.
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Post by tockyterrier on Dec 8, 2019 21:32:47 GMT 1
Other than duck for the first goal and miss an absolute sitter again, I thought Kachunga had a good game today. He worked his bollocks off and had plenty of those runs up the field that people used to rave about VLP making. Problem is, he's inherited VLP's traits when he gets anywhere near the opposition box. I know I'm like a broken record but which runs ? He never attempted to go past Alioski. The only run I can remember he had about 3 days to pass to Bacuna who was away down the wing but held on that long that Berardi slid in front of him and he did his Tom Daley impersonation and somehow got him booked. Honestly I'm confused in that a few people have said he played well (on here, everyone I spoke to in the pub thought he was dire and 2 who left just before the end thought I was joking when I said he got the sponsors MoM), I thought he did his usual run about a lot but not actually tackle anyone or stop the pass. He cleared a Leeds attack in our box in the second half but I just thought he was anonymous for most of the game. I don't want to slate him but what did I miss ? The header from Kachunga from four yards out. (which wasn't straight at the keeper, it was to his right and he stuck a hand out. (& Sky pundits said he did everything right). Was started by him picking the ball up on half way, running through the middle, winning a 2 tackles and pushing it wide to Koroma before getting to the middle to meet koroma's cross
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Post by space hardware on Dec 8, 2019 21:33:05 GMT 1
I remember a header in the second half that he totally misjudged but which was the other? He also had perfectly good goal chalked off. My mate watched on SKY and replays showed that the offside decision was wrong - the goal should have stood. But, yes - he's a Grade 1 Tw@ of the First Order who inexplicably also avoided a booking despite endless niggling. What was annoying was the number of "final warnings" he had from the ref, yet still avoided a booking.
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Post by tockyterrier on Dec 8, 2019 21:38:42 GMT 1
I remember a header in the second half that he totally misjudged but which was the other? He also had perfectly good goal chalked off. My mate watched on SKY and replays showed that the offside decision was wrong - the goal should have stood. But, yes - he's a Grade 1 Tw@ of the First Order who inexplicably also avoided a booking despite endless niggling. The guy who crossed it wasn't off side, but Bamford was in an offside position when it was passed forwards to the guy who crossed to him. It was the same phase of play and whilst I can't keep up with the rules on it anymore, to me, it should have been offside.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 21:46:12 GMT 1
I remember a header in the second half that he totally misjudged but which was the other? He also had perfectly good goal chalked off. My mate watched on SKY and replays showed that the offside decision was wrong - the goal should have stood. But, yes - he's a Grade 1 Tw@ of the First Order who inexplicably also avoided a booking despite endless niggling. Wondered about that at the time, when the ball was played through for his onside colleague Bamford was central in an offside position. When the ball is played to Bamford he is now in an onside position. My initial thought was maybe because it could be argued he gained an unfair advantage by being in an offside position initially it was ruled out. Bloody offside should be offside for me! Tockyterrier you swine! Beat me to it.
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Post by rphyorks on Dec 8, 2019 21:52:38 GMT 1
its good to know that we are now regarded as the yids cup final game, 67 pages on WACCOE and still accumulating they have even created 2 new emojis for us townies when we invade their forum
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Post by 28901 on Dec 8, 2019 22:59:27 GMT 1
Funny when he did that. It was right in front of the linesman too. Mind you that twat missed everything else That bell end on the Kilner side? He was beyond inept. Utter clown ..I'm sat in line with penalty area
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Post by space hardware on Dec 8, 2019 23:07:18 GMT 1
That bell end on the Kilner side? He was beyond inept. Utter clown ..I'm sat in line with penalty area FM end? The bloke couldn't keep up with play, missed half a dozen offsides and at least three occasions where they ran the ball out for a goal kick.
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Post by bouncer on Dec 8, 2019 23:26:12 GMT 1
That bell end on the Kilner side? He was beyond inept. Utter clown ..I'm sat in line with penalty area . The top ones yours , the second one is for new trialists to the site
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Post by 28901 on Dec 8, 2019 23:28:00 GMT 1
Utter clown ..I'm sat in line with penalty area FM end? The bloke couldn't keep up with play, missed half a dozen offsides and at least three occasions where they ran the ball out for a goal kick. That's the one. We let him know. And we have that nutty guy who comes down just before half time and abuses all linesman on that side in no uncertain terms in a very loud voice. My teenage daughter and her cousin find him hilarious, which he is. I have to pretend not to hear sometimes.
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