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Post by Amigo on Feb 17, 2020 23:07:20 GMT 1
I can't agree with the Pritchard hatred. Him and Kongolo signings were what kept us up in 2018. WBA away game says it all. We were 11th in the Premier League when Pritchard joined. Kongolo did play a big part, Pritchard did not.
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Post by benhomly on Feb 17, 2020 23:08:09 GMT 1
1 goal, 1 assist and that kept us up ? His and Kongolo's performances did. Must’ve blinked and missed that. Could’ve sworn I went to most matches that season as well
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Post by impact on Feb 17, 2020 23:10:03 GMT 1
I can't agree with the Pritchard hatred. Him and Kongolo signings were what kept us up in 2018. WBA away game says it all. We were 11th in the Premier League when Pritchard joined. Kongolo did play a big part, Pritchard did not. We were 11th in the Premier League when Kongolo joined. What a strange argument.
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Post by impact on Feb 17, 2020 23:11:36 GMT 1
I can't agree with the Pritchard hatred. Him and Kongolo signings were what kept us up in 2018. WBA away game says it all. 1 goal, 1 assist and that kept us up ? Given we just stayed up, and he made match winning contributions against both Bounremouth and WBA, then yes. A goal and 2 assists in the equivalent of 11 games after stepping up a level in a side which barely scored isn't bad at all.
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Post by benhomly on Feb 17, 2020 23:13:54 GMT 1
1 goal, 1 assist and that kept us up ? Given we just stayed up, and he made match winning contributions against both Bounremouth and WBA, then yes. On that argument then so did Ince, so did Depoitre, so did Lossl etc etc
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Post by impact on Feb 17, 2020 23:15:38 GMT 1
Given we just stayed up, and he made match winning contributions against both Bounremouth and WBA, then yes. On that argument then so did Ince, so did Depoitre, so did Lossl etc etc Correct, they all did. What's your point?
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Post by benhomly on Feb 17, 2020 23:18:02 GMT 1
On that argument then so did Ince, so did Depoitre, so did Lossl etc etc Correct, they all did. What's your point? The point is the inference is that Pritchard and Kongolo kept us up, no one else. Thought that was obvious
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Post by impact on Feb 17, 2020 23:20:36 GMT 1
Correct, they all did. What's your point? The point is the inference is that Pritchard and Kongolo kept us up, no one else. Thought that was obvious Nowhere has he said they were the only players who contributed. But those 2 players who were signed in January played a big part in keeping us up. Without them I don't think we'd have stayed up. I think that was the obvious point.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 17, 2020 23:21:30 GMT 1
1 goal, 1 assist and that kept us up ? Given we just stayed up, and he made match winning contributions against both Bounremouth and WBA, then yes. A goal and 2 assists in the equivalent of 11 games after stepping up a level in a side which barely scored isn't bad at all. Without his contribution to those 2 games we'd have drawn at WBA and beaten Baldmuff 3-1, that's 2 points dropped and we stayed up by more than that. Which was his 2nd assist that season ?
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 17, 2020 23:22:57 GMT 1
The point is the inference is that Pritchard and Kongolo kept us up, no one else. Thought that was obvious Nowhere has he said they were the only players who contributed. But those 2 players who were signed in January played a big part in keeping us up. Without them I don't think we'd have stayed up. I think that was the obvious point. Kongolo maybe, Pritchard 🤔 can't really see that.
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Post by benhomly on Feb 17, 2020 23:24:09 GMT 1
The point is the inference is that Pritchard and Kongolo kept us up, no one else. Thought that was obvious Nowhere has he said they were the only players who contributed. But those 2 players who were signed in January played a big part in keeping us up. Without them I don't think we'd have stayed up. I think that was the obvious point. ‘Him and Kongolo signings were what kept us up in 2018’ gives a different interpretation to you than it does to me. Clearly.
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 17, 2020 23:25:09 GMT 1
Given we just stayed up, and he made match winning contributions against both Bounremouth and WBA, then yes. A goal and 2 assists in the equivalent of 11 games after stepping up a level in a side which barely scored isn't bad at all. Without his contribution to those 2 games we'd have drawn at WBA and beaten Baldmuff 3-1, that's 2 points dropped and we stayed up by more than that. Which was his 2nd assist that season ? How simplistic. We were a better team once TK and AP joined.
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 17, 2020 23:26:47 GMT 1
Nowhere has he said they were the only players who contributed. But those 2 players who were signed in January played a big part in keeping us up. Without them I don't think we'd have stayed up. I think that was the obvious point. ‘Him and Kongolo signings were what kept us up in 2018’ gives a different interpretation to you than it does to me. Clearly. They both played a big part Ben. Would you disagree?
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Post by impact on Feb 17, 2020 23:26:57 GMT 1
Given we just stayed up, and he made match winning contributions against both Bounremouth and WBA, then yes. A goal and 2 assists in the equivalent of 11 games after stepping up a level in a side which barely scored isn't bad at all. Without his contribution to those 2 games we'd have drawn at WBA and beaten Baldmuff 3-1, that's 2 points dropped and we stayed up by more than that. Which was his 2nd assist that season ? That Bournemouth game which he ran. But as said before, how ridiculously simplistic of you.
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Post by impact on Feb 17, 2020 23:29:21 GMT 1
Nowhere has he said they were the only players who contributed. But those 2 players who were signed in January played a big part in keeping us up. Without them I don't think we'd have stayed up. I think that was the obvious point. ‘Him and Kongolo signings were what kept us up in 2018’ gives a different interpretation to you than it does to me. Clearly. Exactly, the signings. 2 players who played a lot of games for us in the 2nd half of that season and who both played a big part in keeping us up. We were a better team after we signed them. And as I said, I don't think we'd have stayed up without signing them.
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Post by benhomly on Feb 17, 2020 23:30:45 GMT 1
‘Him and Kongolo signings were what kept us up in 2018’ gives a different interpretation to you than it does to me. Clearly. They both played a big part Ben. Would you disagree? Kongolo played a big part, Pritchard played a part. So did the whole squad, would you disagree?
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Post by Amigo on Feb 18, 2020 1:19:07 GMT 1
‘Him and Kongolo signings were what kept us up in 2018’ gives a different interpretation to you than it does to me. Clearly. Exactly, the signings. 2 players who played a lot of games for us in the 2nd half of that season and who both played a big part in keeping us up. We were a better team after we signed them. And as I said, I don't think we'd have stayed up without signing them. We got 1.09 points per game before they signed. We got 0.81 points per game after they signed. But we were a better side when we weren't picking up as many points... makes perfect sense.
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Post by impact on Feb 18, 2020 1:30:49 GMT 1
Exactly, the signings. 2 players who played a lot of games for us in the 2nd half of that season and who both played a big part in keeping us up. We were a better team after we signed them. And as I said, I don't think we'd have stayed up without signing them. We got 1.09 points per game before they signed. We got 0.81 points per game after they signed. But we were a better side when we weren't picking up as many points... makes perfect sense. Jesus Christ. Lee Clark had a higher points per game than David Wagner. Obviously he's the better manager.
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Post by Amigo on Feb 18, 2020 3:23:50 GMT 1
We got 1.09 points per game before they signed. We got 0.81 points per game after they signed. But we were a better side when we weren't picking up as many points... makes perfect sense. Jesus Christ. Lee Clark had a higher points per game than David Wagner. Obviously he's the better manager. Bizarre analogy. Clark managed us in League 1 with a comparatively large budget. Wagner managed us in the Championship and Premier League both with a comparatively very small budget. My stats were based on the same season.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 18, 2020 11:38:18 GMT 1
Exactly, the signings. 2 players who played a lot of games for us in the 2nd half of that season and who both played a big part in keeping us up. We were a better team after we signed them. And as I said, I don't think we'd have stayed up without signing them. We got 1.09 points per game before they signed. We got 0.81 points per game after they signed. But we were a better side when we weren't picking up as many points... makes perfect sense. Don't make it simplistic, he doesn't like it simplistic 😉
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Post by royrace on Feb 18, 2020 14:42:55 GMT 1
Goals and direct assist stats, seems to be all some care about on here! If Messi had played a couple of games for Town in the PL but didn't manage a goal or a direct assist he'd be labelled shit too! Pritchard improved the team when brought in and was one of our best players week in week out alongside Mooy (he was shit too according to some geniuses on here, not enough goals or assists probably ).
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Post by Amigo on Feb 18, 2020 15:47:23 GMT 1
Goals and direct assist stats, seems to be all some care about on here! If Messi had played a couple of games for Town in the PL but didn't manage a goal or a direct assist he'd be labelled shit too! Pritchard improved the team when brought in and was one of our best players week in week out alongside Mooy (he was shit too according to some geniuses on here, not enough goals or assists probably ). For an attacking player those sort of stats are important and we're not talking about a couple of games, it's a full seasons worth of games where he's contributed pretty much nothing. Despite the fact they should never be mentioned in the same sentence, it wasn't Mooy's job to get goals or assists they were a bonus from his role but he still outperformed Pritchard in that aspect. Pritchard didn't improve us, our results didn't get better and our performances didn't get better.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Feb 18, 2020 15:51:55 GMT 1
Can the Cowleys convince him it's only a pimple and kick his arse out onto the pitch, or are we better off without him?
If I had a cyst and refused to work I'd get laughed out the office and onto the dole queue. He's got medical clearence to play hasn't he? What is his problem?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 16:41:20 GMT 1
Can the Cowleys convince him it's only a pimple and kick his arse out onto the pitch, or are we better off without him? If I had a cyst and refused to work I'd get laughed out the office and onto the dole queue. He's got medical clearence to play hasn't he? What is his problem? None of your business I’m afraid. Danny Cowley said, “He is gritting his teeth, and good on him, he's willing to put his body on the line for the team and for the club, I give him full respect for that. He has trained consistently, which has been good, but the process has to be gradual because we want to try to get him to a place where physically and mentally he feels good to be able to play at his best”So despite earlier messages on his readiness, it appears he likely hasn’t got the all clear on being fit enough to be selected as part of the squad yet, and they’re carefully managing that process.
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Post by Amigo on Feb 18, 2020 17:13:51 GMT 1
Can the Cowleys convince him it's only a pimple and kick his arse out onto the pitch, or are we better off without him? If I had a cyst and refused to work I'd get laughed out the office and onto the dole queue. He's got medical clearence to play hasn't he? What is his problem? None of your business I’m afraid. Danny Cowley said, “He is gritting his teeth, and good on him, he's willing to put his body on the line for the team and for the club, I give him full respect for that. He has trained consistently, which has been good, but the process has to be gradual because we want to try to get him to a place where physically and mentally he feels good to be able to play at his best”So despite earlier messages on his readiness, it appears he likely hasn’t got the all clear on being fit enough to be selected as part of the squad yet, and they’re carefully managing that process. Sounds to me like he's not performing in training to the level he (Pritchard) wants to be at, problem is if he's wanting to perform to the level he thinks he's capable of and has performed at previously it's going to be a long wait. It's been nearly 5 years since he was at his peak and maybe this time out and injury has taken that level away from him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 17:26:02 GMT 1
Why is everyone so bothered about fastracking him into the team?
Whether he was good 5 years ago or not he has been truely woeful for town and I won't accept anyhting otherwise. A 10 is there for goals and assists. He offers neither.
We have ESR who I'm sure will be onto bigger and birghter things next season.
We have O Brien as an option who has already scored two great goals this season and has a great game last week at 10.
We have Bacuna who when he turns up (Which is more that AP) can score and assist.
I would have all 3 ahead of AP> I'd have a front two ahead of playing AP. I'd play Grant at 10 ahead of Pritchard.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 18, 2020 17:39:27 GMT 1
Can the Cowleys convince him it's only a pimple and kick his arse out onto the pitch, or are we better off without him? If I had a cyst and refused to work I'd get laughed out the office and onto the dole queue. He's got medical clearence to play hasn't he? What is his problem? Would a cyst affect your ability to do your office job to the extent that it might on a professional footballer?
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Post by Headless Chicken on Feb 18, 2020 18:29:28 GMT 1
Goals and direct assist stats, seems to be all some care about on here! If Messi had played a couple of games for Town in the PL but didn't manage a goal or a direct assist he'd be labelled shit too! Pritchard improved the team when brought in and was one of our best players week in week out alongside Mooy (he was shit too according to some geniuses on here, not enough goals or assists probably ). Do not put Pritchard in even the same stratosphere as Mooy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 19:45:51 GMT 1
We are not missing him so let's just live with it
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Feb 18, 2020 20:27:31 GMT 1
I always thought football was a team game. I must have been getting it wrong all these years. My world has just collapsed and i am off for a lie down. Jesus Wept.
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