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Post by ShortbreadPete on Jan 23, 2020 15:09:12 GMT 1
www.htafc.com/news/2020/january/the-vital-part-ppg-canalside-plays-at-town/PPG Canalside is made up of 168 members of staff; First Team staff, First Team players, Academy staff, Academy players, the Club’s Media and Marketing Department and operations staff like Groundsmen, Catering, Maintenance, Security and Cleaning. 168 - wow! That's in addition to staff at the ground itself. I wonder what the total wages are for: a) playing staff and b) non-playing staff? They must be eye watering
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Post by digs on Jan 23, 2020 15:40:12 GMT 1
Used to be a good club where you could get a pint before the game
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Post by Mecha Corte on Jan 23, 2020 15:48:12 GMT 1
I brought this up earlier in the season when the clamour for where's the money gone was in full swing, it's easy and I suppose logical to get caught up in the few highest earners with their 20/£30K a week but in addition to the 168 at PPG there's two shops, a ticket office, lottery / Blue & White plus countless part time match day staff, turnstiles, programmes, catering etc etc - a lot of them will be on minimum wage for a few hours a week but they all add up and the simple fact is your £250 for a season card doesn't go far with the numbers involved.
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Post by El Mel on Jan 23, 2020 15:50:04 GMT 1
Used to be a good club where you could get a pint before the game Not to mention an international bowling tournament. |
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Post by digs on Jan 23, 2020 15:56:42 GMT 1
Used to be a good club where you could get a pint before the game Not to mention an international bowling tournament. I'd forgotten all about winning the Canalside HTFC World Bowling Championship,in fact I think ill dig out the trophy from the shelf over my TV and have a look at it |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Jan 23, 2020 19:50:42 GMT 1
It doesn't surprise me one bit how many people are employed at the Canalside, you can see how clubs can easily get in to massive debt. I was a regular at the club before and after a game and loved the place. On one occasion when Dean Hoyle was doing a question and answers session, i always remember him saying to to one fan "do you realize how much it cost's to run a Premiership club" and the vast majority dont. Take Man City, they employ over 2,000 people on a match day and i believe at Spurs it's even more, it's not the days of the 60's/70's anymore it's crazy, every aspect of football has changed and changed for the worse as far as i am concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 1:30:54 GMT 1
Numbers creep up and this is why the Town shop has started charging for plastic bags. It’s not because they feel it’s the right thing to do, it’s because as an employer of over 250 permanent staff they were breaking the law by not doing so.
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Post by ginner on Jan 24, 2020 13:41:39 GMT 1
If you think about it 168 isnt too much when you consider that in the first team and academy set up inc coaches there is probably 100 there! So 68 between the rest for catering, cleaning ground staff and security.
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Post by Galpharmer on Jan 24, 2020 14:41:31 GMT 1
Start of the end of the Club how it was. Canalside was a real unique asset and brilliant for the fans. Along comes the greedy league and away go the fans. The players don’t want to mix, security, private players lounge, and now no access at all. Our USP gone. We’re just a business and a secret one at that. Communication gone, trust gone in many quarters. I wished more than anything that I’d get to see Town in the Premier League and now I wish I hadn’t. It’s killed it for me. No dreams anymore really, because what would going back to the greedy league bring except more shite? And don’t mention selling the soul to the Chinese for a year or so with that shit dog.
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Post by ben1987 on Jan 24, 2020 14:55:36 GMT 1
Start of the end of the Club how it was. Canalside was a real unique asset and brilliant for the fans. Along comes the greedy league and away go the fans. The players don’t want to mix, security, private players lounge, and now no access at all. Our USP gone. We’re just a business and a secret one at that. Communication gone, trust gone in many quarters. I wished more than anything that I’d get to see Town in the Premier League and now I wish I hadn’t. It’s killed it for me. No dreams anymore really, because what would going back to the greedy league bring except more shite? And don’t mention selling the soul to the Chinese for a year or so with that shit dog. Remember that Year of the Dog display they did as well? Cringe. I used to love canalside but when they started setting up bouncy castles and drinking with plastic pint cups I was done with it. |
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Post by rastrick32 on Jan 24, 2020 18:15:33 GMT 1
Start of the end of the Club how it was. Canalside was a real unique asset and brilliant for the fans. Along comes the greedy league and away go the fans. The players don’t want to mix, security, private players lounge, and now no access at all. Our USP gone. We’re just a business and a secret one at that. Communication gone, trust gone in many quarters. I wished more than anything that I’d get to see Town in the Premier League and now I wish I hadn’t. It’s killed it for me. No dreams anymore really, because what would going back to the greedy league bring except more shite? And don’t mention selling the soul to the Chinese for a year or so with that shit dog. Remember that Year of the Dog display they did as well? Cringe. I used to love canalside but when they started setting up bouncy castles and drinking with plastic pint cups I was done with it. Agreed. It is ludicrous to drink pints out of plastic cups on a bouncy castle. This isn't Crackerjack. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jan 24, 2020 18:16:55 GMT 1
Remember that Year of the Dog display they did as well? Cringe. I used to love canalside but when they started setting up bouncy castles and drinking with plastic pint cups I was done with it. Agreed. It is ludicrous to drink pints out of plastic cups on a bouncy castle. This isn't Crackerjack. Ben was having a sly look over his shoulder hoping Eddie waring and Stuart Hall were in attendance to sign him up |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jan 24, 2020 18:27:13 GMT 1
Remember that Year of the Dog display they did as well? Cringe. I used to love canalside but when they started setting up bouncy castles and drinking with plastic pint cups I was done with it. Agreed. It is ludicrous to drink pints out of plastic cups on a bouncy castle. This isn't Crackerjack. Yes but it is Friday! |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jan 24, 2020 21:28:50 GMT 1
Agreed. It is ludicrous to drink pints out of plastic cups on a bouncy castle. This isn't Crackerjack. Ben was having a sly look over his shoulder hoping Eddie waring and Stuart Hall were in attendance to sign him up Those were the days with Stuart Hall pissing himself every Friday night on Jeux sans frontiers. Shame he got done for kiddy fiddling. |
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Post by yappledapple on Jul 29, 2020 10:19:22 GMT 1
Small update from Mark Devlin...
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Post by Sio on Jul 29, 2020 10:26:12 GMT 1
The fact that this didn't happen is as big as any failure over the last few years.
How could the club/Hoyle be confident enough to release videos and statements about this happening, only to suddenly feel the need to unwind it? What are we left with - a new pitch?
The whole message was that a new facility would attract higher calibre players.
We really did completely give up didn't we.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 29, 2020 10:39:02 GMT 1
The fact that this didn't happen is as big as any failure over the last few years. How could the club/Hoyle be confident enough to release videos and statements about this happening, only to suddenly feel the need to unwind it? What are we left with - a new pitch? The whole message was that a new facility would attract higher calibre players. We really did completely give up didn't we. He's gone on to say its one of the best facilities in the country. It seems odd and I'm completely confused. - I know we said it was scaled back last summer as we no longer needed as much office space because the offices in the stadium had become vacant. Devlin says its finished imminently, but the kirklees planning site still shows the plans from March 19 and when I drove past recently the old building is still there, you can see the arch over the door from the road. Update very much required, and if it has been scaled back significantly where the fuck is that £20m that was reserved for it post Chelsea? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 10:41:19 GMT 1
The amount of fans who have their head up Hoyle's **** is embarrassing, he has absolutely killed this club this last 18 months and completely ruined his so called legacy (still was always and will always be down to Webber and Wagner our promotion for me), PPG is just another example.
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Post by Sio on Jul 29, 2020 10:51:14 GMT 1
The fact that this didn't happen is as big as any failure over the last few years. How could the club/Hoyle be confident enough to release videos and statements about this happening, only to suddenly feel the need to unwind it? What are we left with - a new pitch? The whole message was that a new facility would attract higher calibre players. We really did completely give up didn't we. He's gone on to say its one of the best facilities in the country. It seems odd and I'm completely confused. - I know we said it was scaled back last summer as we no longer needed as much office space because the offices in the stadium had become vacant. Devlin says its finished imminently, but the kirklees planning site still shows the plans from March 19 and when I drove past recently the old building is still there, you can see the arch over the door from the road. Update very much required, and if it has been scaled back significantly where the fuck is that £20m that was reserved for it post Chelsea?Probably in a former-owner's bank account |
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Post by Melc on Jul 29, 2020 10:58:52 GMT 1
The amount of fans who have their head up Hoyle's **** is embarrassing, he has absolutely killed this club this last 18 months and completely ruined his so called legacy (still was always and will always be down to Webber and Wagner our promotion for me), PPG is just another example. Looks like he has cleared the club out to me...... always thought at least we have something to show for our stint in the Premiership, unlike the wasted £50m + on s***e players! |
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Post by dewsburyborn on Jul 29, 2020 11:05:24 GMT 1
He's gone on to say its one of the best facilities in the country. It seems odd and I'm completely confused. - I know we said it was scaled back last summer as we no longer needed as much office space because the offices in the stadium had become vacant. Devlin says its finished imminently, but the kirklees planning site still shows the plans from March 19 and when I drove past recently the old building is still there, you can see the arch over the door from the road. Update very much required, and if it has been scaled back significantly where the fuck is that £20m that was reserved for it post Chelsea?Probably in a former-owner's bank account and it's all so un-fucking-necessary ... The oft trotted out line is 'it's not YOUR 50m' .... but how much money does one actually need..... There was a reported net worth of £350m after Card Factory. £50m into Town over the 10 years or so - still left £300m. Any decent investment manager would have made that £50m back over the 10 years. Near-death brings about a refocus - I know, I've had some of it - but the pulling in of the debt over such a short period has left us almost screwed. |
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jul 29, 2020 11:07:17 GMT 1
The fact that this didn't happen is as big as any failure over the last few years. How could the club/Hoyle be confident enough to release videos and statements about this happening, only to suddenly feel the need to unwind it? What are we left with - a new pitch? The whole message was that a new facility would attract higher calibre players. We really did completely give up didn't we. Who on earth would want town to spend £20m on someone else's facility |
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Post by I have a box full of hats on Jul 29, 2020 11:08:30 GMT 1
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 29, 2020 11:10:21 GMT 1
Probably in a former-owner's bank account and it's all so un-fucking-necessary ... The oft trotted out line is 'it's not YOUR 50m' .... but how much money does one actually need..... There was a reported net worth of £350m after Card Factory. £50m into Town over the 10 years or so - still left £300m. Any decent investment manager would have made that £50m back over the 10 years. Near-death brings about a refocus - I know, I've had some of it - but the pulling in of the debt over such a short period has left us almost screwed. First paragraph - none of your business really is it. Second paragraph - any decent investment manager wouldn’t be involved with a League One club that wasn’t really making money. Third paragraph - fair do’s |
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Post by jqhtfc on Jul 29, 2020 11:17:21 GMT 1
Just sums up the club really over the last few years promised a new 20m state of the art training facility if we stayed up or not as a legacy, ended up with a new pitch!!!
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 29, 2020 11:17:36 GMT 1
and it's all so un-fucking-necessary ... The oft trotted out line is 'it's not YOUR 50m' .... but how much money does one actually need..... There was a reported net worth of £350m after Card Factory. £50m into Town over the 10 years or so - still left £300m. Any decent investment manager would have made that £50m back over the 10 years. Near-death brings about a refocus - I know, I've had some of it - but the pulling in of the debt over such a short period has left us almost screwed. First paragraph - none of your business really is it. Second paragraph - any decent investment manager wouldn’t be involved with a League One club that wasn’t really making money.Third paragraph - fair do’s He meant Hoyle personally. Of course he'll have a financial advisor, he wont have millions sat in his current account. |
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Post by conman on Jul 29, 2020 11:18:54 GMT 1
Small update from Mark Devlin... It looks like a spireless bloody church.. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Jul 29, 2020 11:23:45 GMT 1
This is from just 11 months ago, after we had been relegated and the ownership change. No mention of things being "scaled back". The £20m upgrade of Huddersfield Town's PPG Canalside training ground is expected to get underway "very soon" after plans were approved by Kirklees today.
Josh Halliwell, a planning agent for the PPG Canalside project, told Kirklees Council's Strategic Planning Committee the club wanted to demolish the existing complex and replace it with a three-story state-of-the-art facility 'fairly swiftly'.link |
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Post by benhomly on Jul 29, 2020 11:32:45 GMT 1
There's a few pages left in this thread I think.
It seems to me that those that could have made a massive difference to this club with the opportunity that the PL gave us have proven to be totally inept at running a football club despite their obvious business nous. Anyone on here could have wasted this opportunity as spectacularly as Hoyle and his team have done and who knows some of us might have actually done a better job of it.
Canalside just proves it; we've accepted that we're extremely unlikely to return to the PL so we scaled back the development to reflect that. I always thought that they'd told us that the money would be invested in a PL facility to give us the edge for recruiting the best players once we did go back down. Seemingly not. Of course they'll blame it on Covid19 but I suspect the decisions were made long before that.
Thanks for the memories Town.
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Post by yappledapple on Jul 29, 2020 11:48:16 GMT 1
We could always wait for the video and actually see what they’ve done and then comment on something concrete!
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