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Post by turbo2 on Jul 29, 2020 11:54:31 GMT 1
The decision to stop canalside being a community club was the start of the fall for me.
It would have been very easy on match days to isolate the players sufficiently.
The thought that players sign on for a club due to these type of facilities is just utter nonsense
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Post by Sio on Jul 29, 2020 11:57:30 GMT 1
The decision to stop canalside being a community club was the start of the fall for me. It would have been very easy on match days to isolate the players sufficiently. The thought that players sign on for a club due to these type of facilities is just utter nonsense I don't think it's that odd. Personally, the facilities of a new workplace would be on my list of things to consider before taking a job there. Where the company is based, and how they present themselves, says a lot about their ambition, standards etc. Of course, for a footballer this will be lower in the list than wages. |
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Post by zoso on Jul 29, 2020 11:58:16 GMT 1
We could always wait for the video and actually see what they’ve done and then comment on something concrete! What? And potentially disprove all the rumours and gossip? Why would anyone do that?  |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 29, 2020 11:59:11 GMT 1
The decision to stop canalside being a community club was the start of the fall for me. It would have been very easy on match days to isolate the players sufficiently. The thought that players sign on for a club due to these type of facilities is just utter nonsense Then you're greatly mislead |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 12:06:56 GMT 1
I bet the video reveals a new carpet, they’ll have moved the bandits and restocked the pickled eggs on the bar.
Or, it will be a Colonel Kurtz style kingdom with Dean Hoyle sat on a massive thrown, sacrificing non-renewing season ticket holders.
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Post by benhomly on Jul 29, 2020 12:07:57 GMT 1
We could always wait for the video and actually see what they’ve done and then comment on something concrete! What? And potentially disprove all the rumours and gossip? Why would anyone do that? People are reacting to a statement by Mark Devlin that the original plan was scaled back due to relegation from the PL. If he's guilty of spreading rumours and gossip then he's just another piss poor appointment by the club  |
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Post by jqhtfc on Jul 29, 2020 12:12:12 GMT 1
We could always wait for the video and actually see what they’ve done and then comment on something concrete! What? And potentially disprove all the rumours and gossip? Why would anyone do that? What rumours and gossip what they said they were going to do hasn’t been done despite having the green light to go ahead with it. As others have said as soon as we went down they decided to scale back meaning we got a new pitch and not the state of art facility they said they would be doing. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Jul 29, 2020 12:13:59 GMT 1
The fact that this didn't happen is as big as any failure over the last few years. How could the club/Hoyle be confident enough to release videos and statements about this happening, only to suddenly feel the need to unwind it? What are we left with - a new pitch? The whole message was that a new facility would attract higher calibre players. We really did completely give up didn't we. Twenty one million quid ring-fenced and sorted. Canalside happening. Or not. Just part of the shite that we've been fed since we got to the greedy league. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 29, 2020 12:15:26 GMT 1
First paragraph - none of your business really is it. Second paragraph - any decent investment manager wouldn’t be involved with a League One club that wasn’t really making money.Third paragraph - fair do’s He meant Hoyle personally. Of course he'll have a financial advisor, he wont have millions sat in his current account. I know he meant Hoyle. My point was, how can you make the money back on a business model that loses money? The poster highlighted that a ‘decent investment manager’ should have already made the money back. That is just impossible in this business at this level. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 29, 2020 12:21:51 GMT 1
He meant Hoyle personally. Of course he'll have a financial advisor, he wont have millions sat in his current account. I know he meant Hoyle. My point was, how can you make the money back on a business model that loses money? The poster highlighted that a ‘decent investment manager’ should have already made the money back. That is just impossible in this business at this level. I think you are still missing his point. Hoyle has hypothetical £350m. He spends £50m over the course of 10 years. His remaining funds will have grown to recoup that £50m spend (at least) if managed properly by "decent investment manager" or financial advisor over that timescale, so that he's above where he started even with the £50m outlay. Nothing to do with HTFC the business losing money. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Jul 29, 2020 12:27:22 GMT 1
So, what we’re saying is sometime last September they rang Kevin McCloud and told him he wasn’t needed but did he have Dion Dublin’s phone number |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 29, 2020 12:35:49 GMT 1
So, what we’re saying is sometime last September they rang Kevin McCloud and told him he wasn’t needed but did he have Dion Dublin’s phone number "Stairs going up to the bedrooms" |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 12:37:19 GMT 1
The fact that this didn't happen is as big as any failure over the last few years. How could the club/Hoyle be confident enough to release videos and statements about this happening, only to suddenly feel the need to unwind it? What are we left with - a new pitch? The whole message was that a new facility would attract higher calibre players. We really did completely give up didn't we. no they didnt give up. wait till you see the improvements overall before spouting off. the training ground his and will have some very good facilities to match most in the championship and academy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 12:43:23 GMT 1
Maybe PH figured there was no point him paying £20m to do up DH’s vanity project?
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 29, 2020 12:44:11 GMT 1
I know he meant Hoyle. My point was, how can you make the money back on a business model that loses money? The poster highlighted that a ‘decent investment manager’ should have already made the money back. That is just impossible in this business at this level. I think you are still missing his point. Hoyle has hypothetical £350m. He spends £50m over the course of 10 years. His remaining funds will have grown to recoup that £50m spend (at least) if managed properly by "decent investment manager" or financial advisor over that timescale, so that he's above where he started even with the £50m outlay. Nothing to do with HTFC the business losing money. His funds away from HTFC are totally irrelevant. If his other ventures had made a loss should he then have stripped the club to recoup losses from other business? No. What he personally has, has nothing to do with what he put in and takes out of the club. If he put in £50 million he is entitled to take out £50 million, even if he is a billionaire. The actual amount per year being paid back is an issue and is leaving us with an absolute mountain to climb, if true (I have no idea). |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 29, 2020 12:44:17 GMT 1
The fact that this didn't happen is as big as any failure over the last few years. How could the club/Hoyle be confident enough to release videos and statements about this happening, only to suddenly feel the need to unwind it? What are we left with - a new pitch? The whole message was that a new facility would attract higher calibre players. We really did completely give up didn't we. no they didnt give up. wait till you see the improvements overall before spouting off. the training ground his and will have some very good facilities to match most in the championship and academy. Have you seen them in your capacity as a proper football man? |
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Post by Sio on Jul 29, 2020 12:50:26 GMT 1
The fact that this didn't happen is as big as any failure over the last few years. How could the club/Hoyle be confident enough to release videos and statements about this happening, only to suddenly feel the need to unwind it? What are we left with - a new pitch? The whole message was that a new facility would attract higher calibre players. We really did completely give up didn't we. no they didnt give up. wait till you see the improvements overall before spouting off. the training ground his and will have some very good facilities to match most in the championship and academy. The fact that the original building still exists gives me a very strong feeling that you're clutching here. Very happy to be proved wrong. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Jul 29, 2020 12:55:36 GMT 1
The fact that this didn't happen is as big as any failure over the last few years. How could the club/Hoyle be confident enough to release videos and statements about this happening, only to suddenly feel the need to unwind it? What are we left with - a new pitch? The whole message was that a new facility would attract higher calibre players. We really did completely give up didn't we. no they didnt give up. wait till you see the improvements overall before spouting off. the training ground his and will have some very good facilities to match most in the championship and academy. Matching most in the Championship wasn't the promise. The money was there and it was being done. I don't see how relegation stops that? |
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Post by rastrick32 on Jul 29, 2020 13:25:08 GMT 1
I adore Dion Dublin.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 14:44:49 GMT 1
no they didnt give up. wait till you see the improvements overall before spouting off. the training ground his and will have some very good facilities to match most in the championship and academy. Have you seen them in your capacity as a proper football man? saw what had been done before lockdown as for your last five words yes because compared to your knowledge its a non contest but don't get upset lad theres time to learn! utt |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 29, 2020 14:47:48 GMT 1
Have you seen them in your capacity as a proper football man? saw what had been done before lockdown as for your last five words yes because compared to your knowledge its a non contest but don't get upset lad theres time to learn! utt LETS WAIT AND SEE if I can learn enough to be on your level. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 14:55:12 GMT 1
saw what had been done before lockdown as for your last five words yes because compared to your knowledge its a non contest but don't get upset lad theres time to learn! utt LETS WAIT AND SEE if I can learn enough to be on your level. we never stop learning and I include myself but I'm sure you will give it a good go ! keep well and posting your better than some on here and utt. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jul 29, 2020 15:57:44 GMT 1
Wasn't canal side originally owned by the club?
So we owned a team, staff and pretty much canalside but no stadium.
Dean signed canalside over to himself didn't he?
So we just own a team and staff now?
Dean's took out all his original investment... What's he paid for canalside? What's the position with canalside? Who's paying for the works?
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Post by benhomly on Jul 29, 2020 16:13:30 GMT 1
Wasn't canal side originally owned by the club? So we owned a team, staff and pretty much canalside but no stadium. Dean signed canalside over to himself didn't he? So we just own a team and staff now? Dean's took out all his original investment... What's he paid for canalside? What's the position with canalside? Who's paying for the works? He owns some of that as well I believe  He likes his tat does our Deano |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 16:28:08 GMT 1
no they didnt give up. wait till you see the improvements overall before spouting off. the training ground his and will have some very good facilities to match most in the championship and academy. The fact that the original building still exists gives me a very strong feeling that you're clutching here. Very happy to be proved wrong. its behind the main building that a lot of developing has been done and im not clutching at sraws neither hopefully all will be revealed |
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Post by townrwe on Jul 29, 2020 16:45:20 GMT 1
So the excuse for not investing 21 million pound during our premier league time was it was to be used on canalside. So we didnt spend it on players and wages to survive I.e We have accounted for all the money, Now we are in the championship the 21 million put aside and not used during a premier league survival fight?  ? is fucking where? It was part of Big Phils this is where all the money has gone speech in the cinema.... 60 odd million on players and wages and 21 on canalside. So it boils back down to another simple question.... Where has the money gone? Even if canalside costs 10 million, what happened to the other 11 that was accounted for in Phil's speech? Im expecting a bumper transfer window with 11M plus sloshing around. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 17:47:56 GMT 1
Jesus wept
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Jul 29, 2020 17:58:16 GMT 1
The lawn & the big fucking gate at the entrance looks fabulous.
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Post by htfc1908 on Jul 29, 2020 18:23:24 GMT 1
I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but wouldn't it have been great to have spent some of the Premier League money on making Kirklees council and the Giants an offer they couldn't refuse for their shares in the JSS instead of foreign mercenaries then tie it along with Canalside to the ownership of Huddersfield Town.
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Post by El Mel on Jul 29, 2020 18:57:01 GMT 1
You'll all realise one day, we're a Bradford City, just with a better kit.
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He likes his tat does our Deano 
? is fucking where? It was part of Big Phils this is where all the money has gone speech in the cinema.... 60 odd million on players and wages and 21 on canalside. 
