Amigo
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Post by Amigo on Jun 29, 2020 13:26:27 GMT 1
It was a clear red. Clearly ran back and took the player out with no intent whatsoever of getting the ball. Appalling decision for any player to make, let alone a substitute who's been on the pitch nowhere near as long as others. Doesn't have a position. Can't pass simple balls, or long balls. Doesn't know where to stand. Tries dribbling when he should pass, tries passing when he should dribble. I keep getting the 6 assists and 6 goals thrown in my face but fuck knows how he's got those! Not sure he'll be here next season whatever league we're in. **cue the Bacuna overhead kick to keep us in the division!! I think he's got those assists and goals because he's the only midfielder we have that shows any sort of intent when he's got the ball. Pritchard walks in circles until he loses it and gets praised by most despite producing absolutely nothing since he got here from the most creative and free role we have.
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Bacuna
Jun 29, 2020 15:39:41 GMT 1
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Post by Pozza on Jun 29, 2020 15:39:41 GMT 1
Has the right ability. Doesn't have the right attitude.
Simple as that really.
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Post by dugnet on Jun 29, 2020 15:43:55 GMT 1
The thing for me was that the "challenge" he put in was a metaphor for our current mindset i.e. frustrated, lacking thought, self pitying and a little bit desperate.
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Post by clayts on Jun 29, 2020 16:09:53 GMT 1
Has the right ability. Doesn't have the right attitude. Simple as that really. You was refreshing on the podcast yesterday pal, only one of the panel that was willing to state their opinion without worrying about what the club thought. It's a shame the others sat on the fence, obviously not wanting to piss off the club as they appear to be well in with certain people down there these days.
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Bacuna
Jun 29, 2020 17:32:54 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 29, 2020 17:32:54 GMT 1
Has the right ability. Doesn't have the right attitude. Simple as that really. It's a start, most of the others haven't the ability or the attitude
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Bacuna
Aug 15, 2020 20:27:52 GMT 1
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 15, 2020 20:27:52 GMT 1
Anyone seen his new haircut?
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 15, 2020 20:35:07 GMT 1
Anyone seen his new haircut? Yeah. Would have looked good when we had the Vileda shirt
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 15, 2020 20:40:16 GMT 1
Anyone seen his new haircut? Yeah, and so fuckin what?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 20:50:07 GMT 1
Has the right ability. Doesn't have the right attitude. Simple as that really. It's a start, most of the others haven't the ability or the attitude go way LAD what do you know about there attitude?
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 15, 2020 21:47:58 GMT 1
It's a start, most of the others haven't the ability or the attitude go way LAD what do you know about there attitude? Well done, O proper football man, it's only taken 6 weeks from my post which was written because I was pissed off at the stick the most talented player we've got was getting. BTW it's go away, lad shouldn't be in capitals, and it's their not there.
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Bacuna
Aug 15, 2020 22:42:07 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 22:42:07 GMT 1
go way LAD what do you know about there attitude? Well done, O proper football man, it's only taken 6 weeks from my post which was written because I was pissed off at the stick the most talented player we've got was getting. BTW it's go away, lad shouldn't be in capitals, and it's their not there. thank you
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Post by space hardware on Aug 16, 2020 0:48:27 GMT 1
Anyone seen his new haircut? Yeah, and so fuckin what? Headless, have you been on the sauce early again? 😁😁
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 18:03:35 GMT 1
Anyone seen his new haircut? Yeah. Would have looked good when we had the Vileda shirt Who do you think is unveiling the third kit... 👀
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 17, 2020 20:30:32 GMT 1
Anyone seen his new haircut? Yeah. Would have looked good when we had the Vileda shirt Called it
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 4, 2020 19:59:37 GMT 1
Steve Chicken Nailing What's Been Apparent for a few months unfortunately
"At 23 years old, Bacuna is still just about on the cusp of being forgivingly described as a “young player”. With that in mind we have cut him quite a lot of slack in the past – particularly as when he has been good, he’s generally been sensational. Some of his goals last year were enormously important to the side.
Bacuna looked much happier in the second half here when he was permitted to push into the final line of attack, but over his 78 minutes on the pitch he offered very little – bordering on nothing, in fact.
According to stats from Whoscored.com, Bacuna creating no shooting chances for others and gave the ball away more often than any of Town’s starters; only 17 of his 28 passes found their man, and unsurprisingly a few of those were those irritating back-heels and flicks to nobody. He also failed to make a single successful tackle or interception, nor did he win a single aerial duel.
We have described Corberan’s tactics as Cruyffian, and as a manager the Dutch legend infamously had more time than perhaps was advisable for maverick players in his sides as he looked to encourage moments of individual brilliance.
The other modern pillar of Dutch football philosophy, Louis van Gaal, played a similar system to Cruyff but in a diametrically opposite way, insisting his players eschew any pursuit of individual glory in the name of the collective.
On this form, Bacuna simply does not offer enough of either of those things: he is neither brilliant often enough that his attempts at the spectacular are worth indulging, nor fundamentally sound enough that the rest of the team gets very much out of him in the moments he does decide to keep things simpler.
It is very difficult to see a place for Bacuna in the starting line-up when the rest of the squad is fully fit, and that’s not great. But it’s also increasingly difficult to make the argument that he should be starting over the talented-but-raw Matty Daly or the limited-but-effortful Ben Jackson. So where does that leave him?
I still think there is a player in Juninho Bacuna somewhere and he could well go on to play top-flight European football somewhere. But four managers in a row and countless different tactical systems are yet to get the best out of him with any consistency at Huddersfield Town.
Is it time for them to write his project off as a failure and cut their losses? Sadly, I think ideally, yes. But I really hope I’m wrong. He really is brilliant on his day…but those days just aren’t coming anywhere near often enough."
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Post by hypotenuse on Oct 4, 2020 20:02:44 GMT 1
I think Bacuna is our most talented player BUT Steve Chicken has called it right in his examiner piece as quoted by Eddy Boy.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 4, 2020 20:06:45 GMT 1
It’s a shame but I completely agree with the Chicken report.
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Bacuna
Oct 4, 2020 20:50:04 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 4, 2020 20:50:04 GMT 1
Yep, let's play fucking Pritchard instead. Fuck off Chicken, shit journo that thinks he's witty, he's only interested in advertising his frigging podcasts
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Bacuna
Oct 4, 2020 20:58:34 GMT 1
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 4, 2020 20:58:34 GMT 1
Yep, let's play fucking Pritchard instead. Fuck off Chicken, shit journo that thinks he's witty, he's only interested in advertising his frigging podcasts Tbh mate I think you've worked yourself into such an entrenched position that no matter what he does (or doesn't do) from now on you will be advocating he stays in the team. All town fans would love it if he could snap out and fulfill his sizeable potential. But maybe that won't happen and how long can you carry him? The merits of Pritchard are neither her nor there when discussing Bacuna but I should imagine chicken probably thinks it would be in our best interests if he was shipped out too
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Bacuna
Oct 4, 2020 21:02:46 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 4, 2020 21:02:46 GMT 1
Yep, let's play fucking Pritchard instead. Fuck off Chicken, shit journo that thinks he's witty, he's only interested in advertising his frigging podcasts Tbh mate I think you've worked yourself into such an entrenched position that no matter what he does (or doesn't do) from now on you will be advocating he stays in the team. All town fans would love it if he could snap out and fulfill his sizeable potential. But maybe that won't happen and how long can you carry him? The merits of Pritchard are neither her nor there when discussing Bacuna but I should imagine chicken probably thinks it would be in our best interests if he was shipped out too In the same Examiner piece Chicken laments that Pritchard didn't play yesterday, I'm also sick of reading his pieces where he obviously thinks he's some kind of wit. I think he's slightly less of a prick than Welton
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Bacuna
Oct 4, 2020 21:05:49 GMT 1
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 4, 2020 21:05:49 GMT 1
Tbh mate I think you've worked yourself into such an entrenched position that no matter what he does (or doesn't do) from now on you will be advocating he stays in the team. All town fans would love it if he could snap out and fulfill his sizeable potential. But maybe that won't happen and how long can you carry him? The merits of Pritchard are neither her nor there when discussing Bacuna but I should imagine chicken probably thinks it would be in our best interests if he was shipped out too In the same Examiner piece Chicken laments that Pritchard didn't play yesterday, I'm also sick of reading his pieces where he obviously thinks he's some kind of wit. I think he's slightly less of a prick than Welton Ok you're entitled to your opinion.. I felt Pritchard did pretty well against Forest. I found Bacuna disappointing though I know some folk who thought he did well. I thought he was piss poor yesterday though granted I didn't watch the full 90
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Bacuna
Oct 4, 2020 21:06:49 GMT 1
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Post by jrguk1976 on Oct 4, 2020 21:06:49 GMT 1
Bacuna seemed to have a good spell of games for us when he was coming of the bench he seemed to be a game changer and scored a few goals showed lots of potential
Since he got a place in the starting line up he hasn’t been the same player.
He’s had plenty of chances but hasn’t shown enough to be a starter in our team.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 4, 2020 21:11:58 GMT 1
Once O'Brien is back i think we will see Bacuna moved in to one of the wide forward positions
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Post by htfcfcfc on Oct 4, 2020 21:12:25 GMT 1
Steve Chicken Nailing What's Been Apparent for a few months unfortunately "At 23 years old, Bacuna is still just about on the cusp of being forgivingly described as a “young player”. With that in mind we have cut him quite a lot of slack in the past – particularly as when he has been good, he’s generally been sensational. Some of his goals last year were enormously important to the side. Bacuna looked much happier in the second half here when he was permitted to push into the final line of attack, but over his 78 minutes on the pitch he offered very little – bordering on nothing, in fact. According to stats from Whoscored.com, Bacuna creating no shooting chances for others and gave the ball away more often than any of Town’s starters; only 17 of his 28 passes found their man, and unsurprisingly a few of those were those irritating back-heels and flicks to nobody. He also failed to make a single successful tackle or interception, nor did he win a single aerial duel. We have described Corberan’s tactics as Cruyffian, and as a manager the Dutch legend infamously had more time than perhaps was advisable for maverick players in his sides as he looked to encourage moments of individual brilliance. The other modern pillar of Dutch football philosophy, Louis van Gaal, played a similar system to Cruyff but in a diametrically opposite way, insisting his players eschew any pursuit of individual glory in the name of the collective. On this form, Bacuna simply does not offer enough of either of those things: he is neither brilliant often enough that his attempts at the spectacular are worth indulging, nor fundamentally sound enough that the rest of the team gets very much out of him in the moments he does decide to keep things simpler. It is very difficult to see a place for Bacuna in the starting line-up when the rest of the squad is fully fit, and that’s not great. But it’s also increasingly difficult to make the argument that he should be starting over the talented-but-raw Matty Daly or the limited-but-effortful Ben Jackson. So where does that leave him? I still think there is a player in Juninho Bacuna somewhere and he could well go on to play top-flight European football somewhere. But four managers in a row and countless different tactical systems are yet to get the best out of him with any consistency at Huddersfield Town. Is it time for them to write his project off as a failure and cut their losses? Sadly, I think ideally, yes. But I really hope I’m wrong. He really is brilliant on his day…but those days just aren’t coming anywhere near often enough." Only one thing I disagree with here. Cowleys did get the best out of him when they used him off the bench. Seems his only use to us as a super sub. He’d certainly be on the bench for me next week. When stats are bad you like to see positive body language, not seeing that.
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Bacuna
Oct 4, 2020 21:21:29 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 4, 2020 21:21:29 GMT 1
In the same Examiner piece Chicken laments that Pritchard didn't play yesterday, I'm also sick of reading his pieces where he obviously thinks he's some kind of wit. I think he's slightly less of a prick than Welton Ok you're entitled to your opinion.. I felt Pritchard did pretty well against Forest. I found Bacuna disappointing though I know some folk who thought he did well. I thought he was piss poor yesterday though granted I didn't watch the full 90 All I've seen is the 15 min Sky highlights. I'm going on what Bacuna has given Town over the previous 2 seasons against what Pritchard has given Town over 3 seasons
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 4, 2020 21:26:31 GMT 1
Ok you're entitled to your opinion.. I felt Pritchard did pretty well against Forest. I found Bacuna disappointing though I know some folk who thought he did well. I thought he was piss poor yesterday though granted I didn't watch the full 90 All I've seen is the 15 min Sky highlights. I'm going on what Bacuna has given Town over the previous 2 seasons against what Pritchard has given Town over 3 seasons For me if we are talking about Bacuna we talk about Bacuna. And same re Pritchard. Feels a bit like catshit and dogshit have a row about which is shittier
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Oct 4, 2020 21:27:51 GMT 1
Ok you're entitled to your opinion.. I felt Pritchard did pretty well against Forest. I found Bacuna disappointing though I know some folk who thought he did well. I thought he was piss poor yesterday though granted I didn't watch the full 90 All I've seen is the 15 min Sky highlights. I'm going on what Bacuna has given Town over the previous 2 seasons against what Pritchard has given Town over 3 seasons Thing is it's about the here and now
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Bacuna
Oct 4, 2020 21:29:07 GMT 1
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 4, 2020 21:29:07 GMT 1
In the same Examiner piece Chicken laments that Pritchard didn't play yesterday, I'm also sick of reading his pieces where he obviously thinks he's some kind of wit. I think he's slightly less of a prick than Welton Ok you're entitled to your opinion.. I felt Pritchard did pretty well against Forest. I found Bacuna disappointing though I know some folk who thought he did well. I thought he was piss poor yesterday though granted I didn't watch the full 90 I watched the full game and Bacuna was very poor. Re Pritchard , I totally agree that he’s not delivered but maybe he’s now responding to the new coach?? The amount of injuries we are getting though there is never any chance of continuity.
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 4, 2020 21:31:12 GMT 1
He's frustrating as hell. There's a player in there, I'm sure of it but the question is how long are we going to wait, and is he going to fulfil his potential here?
Still worth keeping as an option off the bench just because sometimes he CAN produce a bit of magic, but I think he's going to be one of those players that we look at in a few years time, playing at a good level somewhere else & wonder what might have been.
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Post by tobbyg on Oct 4, 2020 21:36:56 GMT 1
I’d like to see that flick and spin trick he did against Rotherham again, think he even elbowed the guy in the face at the same time. Seems harsh to be judging him yet so early this season, I’d have expected that kind of scrutiny after 15-20 games. Hopefully he reads it and bags a brace as a nice fuck you to Chicken.
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