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Post by mickydombat on Jul 20, 2020 19:18:05 GMT 1
Time he also left after identifying all the duds we signed,Goodbye Josh and take that cocky Callum with you, Bye.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Jul 20, 2020 19:26:12 GMT 1
Bloody hell, “Poco loco” is going to have a lot of jobs to do when he gets here from Thorp Arch. There’ll be nobody left.
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Post by huddersfc on Jul 20, 2020 19:28:16 GMT 1
I am stunned he is still here. Whoever had any hand or say in the scouting and transfer of Sobhi, Diakhaby and Mbenza want removing from the football club, and probably football altogether. If Josh Marsh is included in that he needs to go.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jul 20, 2020 19:28:30 GMT 1
Time he also left after identifying all the duds we signed,Goodbye Josh and take that cocky Callum with you, Bye. I know who Josh ( the internet kid ) is. Who is cocky Callum?
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Post by specialun on Jul 20, 2020 19:38:19 GMT 1
Sorry you need to call him by his name
The Excellent Head of Recruitment Josh Marsh who oversaw the Summer 19 transfer window acquisition of German division 4-8 defender, league 2 midfielder, conference striker etc
Albeit I have sympathy with him with those given the £2 our very successful businessman Chairman Phil gave him to spend at Lidl
As Chairman Phil said in Aug-19: “Equally, our excellent head of recruitment Josh Marsh will continue to be a key member of the behind-the-scenes team at the club, as he has been all summer.”
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Jul 20, 2020 19:41:42 GMT 1
Yes I agree Stop stealing a living Mr Marsh and leave our club
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Post by impact on Jul 20, 2020 19:42:33 GMT 1
No one knows what his job actually entails yet loads of people are calling for his head. Makes sense.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jul 20, 2020 19:46:53 GMT 1
No one knows what his job actually entails yet loads of people are calling for his head. Makes sense. "Head of Recruitment" seems pretty self explanatory to me
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Post by specialun on Jul 20, 2020 19:47:50 GMT 1
No one knows what his job actually entails yet loads of people are calling for his head. Makes sense. Head of Recruitment Per Chairman Phil and per his LinkedIn I’d say fairly clear....
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 20, 2020 19:48:39 GMT 1
One thing is for sure, the scouting and recruitment team needs to improve as this is not going to be the remit of the new man, unlike it was with the Cowleys.
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Post by royrace on Jul 20, 2020 19:56:31 GMT 1
Teflon Don
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Post by alexdire on Jul 20, 2020 20:22:25 GMT 1
I bet he'll be gone soon. If you're having a clear out, might as well get rid of the lot.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jul 20, 2020 20:31:20 GMT 1
Who?!!
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 20, 2020 20:32:23 GMT 1
Mascots have also been sacked. Looks like a major clear out.
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Post by alexdire on Jul 20, 2020 20:33:08 GMT 1
At this stage the head of recruitment.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jul 20, 2020 20:36:45 GMT 1
Years of bringing people in who we have scouted and recruited... Best player we've bought is toffollo who the Cowley's wanted.
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Post by ben1987 on Jul 20, 2020 20:38:39 GMT 1
Mascots have also been sacked. Looks like a major clear out. I wish you and Tilly all the best for the future.
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Post by Wingman on Jul 20, 2020 20:42:12 GMT 1
Terry and Tilly have gone?
That’s it. In all my 30+ years of watching a Town I’ve NEVER been so angry and ashamed.
🐶😄
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Post by rothwellterrier on Jul 20, 2020 20:43:03 GMT 1
Mascots have also been sacked. Looks like a major clear out. I wish you and Tilly all the best for the future. Tilly’s “gardening leave” was short lived but it seems to have paid off link
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Post by k1man999 on Jul 20, 2020 20:43:56 GMT 1
Years of bringing people in who we have scouted and recruited... Best player we've bought is toffollo who the Cowley's wanted. Bet he's happy came as part of the cowleys grand plan if they stay championship bet they come in for him or he asks t go.
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Post by impact on Jul 20, 2020 20:45:33 GMT 1
No one knows what his job actually entails yet loads of people are calling for his head. Makes sense. "Head of Recruitment" seems pretty self explanatory to me Not really. Does he just compile a list of players? Does he recommend any? How is the shortlist decided? At what point do they go and watch players? Is he the one that goes and watches them? Where does the DoF/Head of Football Operations sit with it all? He could come back and say I don't think x is a good player, but if the manager wants him what happens, for example? I remember everyone questioning what Webber did and saying he should go, then suddenly he's the best thing that's ever happened to the club and we can't cope without the role.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 20, 2020 20:47:58 GMT 1
Years of bringing people in who we have scouted and recruited... Best player we've bought is toffollo who the Cowley's wanted. And he's poor when it comes to actually defending
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Post by Champers on Jul 20, 2020 21:30:04 GMT 1
I expect Josh Marsh is absolutely living the dream. Six figure salary to play Football Manager on his laptop for 12 hours a day and write down all the players who play well against him.
I genuinely don't think this is far from the truth of the situation.
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Post by Mav on Jul 20, 2020 22:28:38 GMT 1
Fred and Nelly will remain in their respective posts ..... thankfully.
God bless ‘em.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jul 20, 2020 22:41:33 GMT 1
Terry and Tilly have gone? That’s it. In all my 30+ years of watching a Town I’ve NEVER been so angry and ashamed. 🐶😄 Seems a bit ruff. What had they done wrong?
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jul 20, 2020 22:45:43 GMT 1
"Head of Recruitment" seems pretty self explanatory to me Not really. Does he just compile a list of players? Does he recommend any? How is the shortlist decided? At what point do they go and watch players? Is he the one that goes and watches them? Where does the DoF/Head of Football Operations sit with it all? He could come back and say I don't think x is a good player, but if the manager wants him what happens, for example? I remember everyone questioning what Webber did and saying he should go, then suddenly he's the best thing that's ever happened to the club and we can't cope without the role. My assumption would be: Director of Football (or equivalent) oversees all off-field footballing operations. This includes the recruitment of staff and players, which is more directly overseen by Josh Marsh. Marsh will have a team of data analysts and scouts working for him who analyse teams and players, attend games etc. and report back to him. He, along with Bromby and the management team decide on the players they would like to approach. Marsh then initiates and coordinates the negotiations. He's probably nothing more than a glorified Head Scout. To be honest I am far from convinced that his role is necessary at all, and I'm certainly not convinced that he's the right man for the it given our signings over recent years. I highly doubt he made the final call on any of them, but it's his team who will have been responsible for identifying these players, shortlisting them and presenting the data & reports that has supported them ultimately being signed.
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Post by royrace on Jul 20, 2020 23:41:32 GMT 1
Not really. Does he just compile a list of players? Does he recommend any? How is the shortlist decided? At what point do they go and watch players? Is he the one that goes and watches them? Where does the DoF/Head of Football Operations sit with it all? He could come back and say I don't think x is a good player, but if the manager wants him what happens, for example? I remember everyone questioning what Webber did and saying he should go, then suddenly he's the best thing that's ever happened to the club and we can't cope without the role. My assumption would be: Director of Football (or equivalent) oversees all off-field footballing operations. This includes the recruitment of staff and players, which is more directly overseen by Josh Marsh. Marsh will have a team of data analysts and scouts working for him who analyse teams and players, attend games etc. and report back to him. He, along with Bromby and the management team decide on the players they would like to approach. Marsh then initiates and coordinates the negotiations. He's probably nothing more than a glorified Head Scout. To be honest I am far from convinced that his role is necessary at all, and I'm certainly not convinced that he's the right man for the it given our signings over recent years. I highly doubt he made the final call on any of them, but it's his team who will have been responsible for identifying these players, shortlisting them and presenting the data & reports that has supported them ultimately being signed. I always assumed it would be more of an admin role. I suspect they’re all in it together, in the football forum, and that’s why nobody has ever really wanted to admit failings or do anything about it. The whole of the board seem to have been involved for the last couple of seasons. Gone we’ll hasn’t it
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Post by ldotm on Jul 20, 2020 23:48:41 GMT 1
Not really. Does he just compile a list of players? Does he recommend any? How is the shortlist decided? At what point do they go and watch players? Is he the one that goes and watches them? Where does the DoF/Head of Football Operations sit with it all? He could come back and say I don't think x is a good player, but if the manager wants him what happens, for example? I remember everyone questioning what Webber did and saying he should go, then suddenly he's the best thing that's ever happened to the club and we can't cope without the role. My assumption would be: Director of Football (or equivalent) oversees all off-field footballing operations. This includes the recruitment of staff and players, which is more directly overseen by Josh Marsh. Marsh will have a team of data analysts and scouts working for him who analyse teams and players, attend games etc. and report back to him. He, along with Bromby and the management team decide on the players they would like to approach. Marsh then initiates and coordinates the negotiations. He's probably nothing more than a glorified Head Scout. To be honest I am far from convinced that his role is necessary at all, and I'm certainly not convinced that he's the right man for the it given our signings over recent years. I highly doubt he made the final call on any of them, but it's his team who will have been responsible for identifying these players, shortlisting them and presenting the data & reports that has supported them ultimately being signed. You’re pretty spot on with your assumption. His role is to identify players, it’s then down to DoF/Manager to have a much more detailed discussion on whether they fit the criteria. I know an agent who has dealt with Marsh and said he’s a decent guy and has very little say in the grand scheme of things. His only real control was post Webber before we’d got a DoF in. That being said, he has to take some responsibility on the pool of players he will be putting forward. But let’s face it, if he was really pulling the strings and accountable for a lot of it, he’d have gone ages ago. It’s no hidden secret that our recruitment has been a shambles for a while but Marsh is still here for a reason.
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Post by jqhtfc on Jul 20, 2020 23:49:18 GMT 1
For me unless the department has had a re think under bromby and Devlin it doesn’t matter who’s in charge it won’t work! if we do want to shop abroad again and look in the foreign markets then great can be cheaper and some gems to be found, but are actually watching these players or going on video analysis like we did with mbenza and that other clown because that worked really well!
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Post by boooothy on Jul 20, 2020 23:57:45 GMT 1
For me unless the department has had a re think under bromby and Devlin it doesn’t matter who’s in charge it won’t work! if we do want to shop abroad again and look in the foreign markets then great can be cheaper and some gems to be found, but are actually watching these players or going on video analysis like we did with mbenza and that other clown because that worked really well! Exactly! For this whole head coach not manager thing to work there has to be football geek in the background who knows everything about thousands of players with contacts. Not Bromby, fifa boy and danny schofield (who is clearly the one who has won Phil’s ear and trust)
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