As with above please read what I have written. I have NO issue with him recouping his loans. What is questionable in my opinion is why the deal he structured was the best option for the club? Why was PH (formed the jury is out, there are positives and negatives) the right man? What was the long term vision.
As for transfers you seem to think my issue is with money, it isn't. I completely agree that money is no guarantee of success in the transfer market, both in fees and wages. My issue, as above, the solid structure of responsibility appeared to be completely abandoned after Webber left. Moss did a decent job but then left. After then it seemed that looking from the outside our approach was haphazard and entirely random. Had we a plan, as we appear to be working towards now, such as (and I'm just using this as an example) Norwich ie controlled investment with an eye to a sustainable long term view (which would appear to be what you are advocating) then we would have all understood better. There was no obvious long term plan and worse than that we wasted a position of relative strength.
So for the, final, avoidance of doubt my issue is about having a vision, plan and communication strategy that would have kept the fans informed and on side. I don't think many would disagree that it is pretty unequivocal that this is what happened.
It's not a case of kicking a good man who has given so much to our club. It is certainly not a case of saying he should essentially donate his hard earned cash to HTAFC. It is however a case of saying we could have done much better. I have posted before that good people make mistakes and DH is certainly not immune to this observation.
no one is immune dugnet and dean I'm sure will know that. I just feel we have to move on because I'm sure yiu will agree we have plenty of work to do.one thing I am sure about there is no lack of determination by the club in there efforts to get the club through this difficult time
I agree we need to move on and I am encouraged we have a plan and I am more than prepared to give the club the time it needs.
I doubt that the debate will end until most see some progress. There will always be people who take opposing views on this subject, when the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. My frustration is largely borne from the fact, until Devlin did, no one has said "we've made mistakes, but we've learned from them".
I understand those who defend DH but equally I totally understand those are more critical.
As you say it's indeed time to move on, but as I say, above until we see that progress on the pitch it's a debate that won't go away. Let's be honest people still refer to Shankly not being supported, so it's always likely to be seen as a defining part of our history.
Post by houllierspal on Aug 8, 2020 16:30:46 GMT 1
Promotion was in the main unexpected and therefore before we had the chance to put an adequate off field structure in place, leaving a lot of the major decisions with DH. This, plus his health issues, IMO played a huge part in our demise, an illness like that doesn’t happen overnight and would develop in the background gradually and over a period of time and may well have clouded his judgement on major decisions. Would have been great if it had lasted longer but time to appreciate what we had, forgive and forget, and move on to the next chapter and get fully behind the club again.