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Post by Terrier Ramone on Dec 31, 2020 3:07:29 GMT 1
No, my ideal would be Lossl on loan, Hamer no 2 & Schofield out on loan. If no GK comes in I'd have Schofield no 1 but would not be confident about it. Lol. I’d find another sport if I were you What the fuck do you know?
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 31, 2020 8:47:03 GMT 1
Hard to say how Schofield will turn out, but we may have solved our goalkeeping problem which has dogged us for a number of years. I viewed it as the most important signing, but we seem to have let it go under the radar - a bit like picking the school team - anybody will do so the fat lad goes between the sticks. A good goalkeeper could save you ten points a season... Schofield certainly saved us two of those on Tuesday.
You could also say that he's made great saves on the line in preceding matches which many other keepers wouldn't get near. He also nearly saved their goal, it just squeezed through the only space available between Sarr and Schofield's chest. The thing was he was down for it... he has great reactions.
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 31, 2020 12:50:32 GMT 1
Hamer is out of contract in the summer and won't be here next season. As good as he's been he's also not going to be the difference between us finishing 8th or 16th. In a season where we are fairly confident that we won't be involved in a relegation fight, now is 100% the time to give Schofield the game time he needs to make mistakes and learn from them without the worry of major consequences. Already he looks to be growing in confidence in terms of commanding his box and becoming more vocal, there were a couple of occasions last night where you could see him scream for his defender to leave it for him. I agree 100% with what you say about Schofield but do you know something I don't about Hamer?
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Post by Camel Grabber on Dec 31, 2020 13:03:37 GMT 1
I'm going to buck the trend here & I desperately hope he proves me wrong now but as fantastic a shot stopper as he is (& no matter what anyone says, if there's a better save made in England this season than his last night, I'd be surprised) I think he lacks confidence/strength to command his area & let's face it, we are in a league where set pieces are vital. I'm certainly not ruling him out & I believe he will develop into a terrific GK but, currently, he is not (IMO) a safe enough option to be our no 1. Darlows last night was better V Salah
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Post by dm on Dec 31, 2020 13:08:58 GMT 1
Hamer is out of contract in the summer and won't be here next season. As good as he's been he's also not going to be the difference between us finishing 8th or 16th. In a season where we are fairly confident that we won't be involved in a relegation fight, now is 100% the time to give Schofield the game time he needs to make mistakes and learn from them without the worry of major consequences. Already he looks to be growing in confidence in terms of commanding his box and becoming more vocal, there were a couple of occasions last night where you could see him scream for his defender to leave it for him. I agree 100% with what you say about Schofield but do you know something I don't about Hamer? He's 33, contract expiring (he was a PL player when it was signed), he's not as good as Ryan Schofield/isn't going to get any better, has been improved but was coming from a really low level - aka he's been improved but even so, isn't great. All reasons for him to not be at Town beyond this seasons.
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 31, 2020 13:42:35 GMT 1
I agree 100% with what you say about Schofield but do you know something I don't about Hamer? He's 33, contract expiring (he was a PL player when it was signed), he's not as good as Ryan Schofield/isn't going to get any better, has been improved but was coming from a really low level - aka he's been improved but even so, isn't great. All reasons for him to not be at Town beyond this seasons. 33 isn't that old for a keeper. I'd say that a squad needs 3 keepers, so if he and Pereira leave in the summer (& I'd be surprised if the latter was still here next season) they will both need replacing. As long as his wage demands aren't unreasonable he's perfectly adequate back-up/competition for a young lad still learning his trade.
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Post by turbo2 on Dec 31, 2020 14:30:00 GMT 1
Lol. I’d find another sport if I were you What the fuck do you know? A lot more than you First of all why the chuff in the current climate would we offer to pay the wages of lossl. 11k sc holders money would probably just about cover his wages. Secondly Ryan is showing exactly what everyone knew. He’s a top prospect. Why would a club of our size not want to play a hone grown kid who is such a good prospect? Thirdly the much maligned hamer has shown he can actually perform at a reasonable level. So why would we need another keeper??
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Dec 31, 2020 15:30:14 GMT 1
What the fuck do you know? A lot more than you First of all why the chuff in the current climate would we offer to pay the wages of lossl. 11k sc holders money would probably just about cover his wages. Secondly Ryan is showing exactly what everyone knew. He’s a top prospect. Why would a club of our size not want to play a hone grown kid who is such a good prospect? Thirdly the much maligned hamer has shown he can actually perform at a reasonable level. So why would we need another keeper?? I don't for one minute think we are safe from being dragged into a relegation battle, what business we do in this window will be crucial. Our squad is already at breaking point, we cannot continue to pick the same team every game & bring next to noone on. For that reason, I can see why someone might think that the GK position is the last we need to look at, however, IMO, while both GKs have performed better than expected so far, neither fill me with confidence right now, Schofield is rooted to his line & Hamer just seems to be a mistake waiting to happen. I reckon that with Lossl in goal (I'm banking him on playing for very little of his normal wage due to being desperate to make the Euros at the end of the season) we would have enough to stay clear of a relegation fight. All a matter of opinion obviously but my opinion is just as valuable as yours, to say I need to find a different sport is both ridiculous & just wrong.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Dec 31, 2020 16:18:52 GMT 1
A lot more than you First of all why the chuff in the current climate would we offer to pay the wages of lossl. 11k sc holders money would probably just about cover his wages. Secondly Ryan is showing exactly what everyone knew. He’s a top prospect. Why would a club of our size not want to play a hone grown kid who is such a good prospect? Thirdly the much maligned hamer has shown he can actually perform at a reasonable level. So why would we need another keeper?? I don't for one minute think we are safe from being dragged into a relegation battle, what business we do in this window will be crucial. Our squad is already at breaking point, we cannot continue to pick the same team every game & bring next to noone on. For that reason, I can see why someone might think that the GK position is the last we need to look at, however, IMO, while both GKs have performed better than expected so far, neither fill me with confidence right now, Schofield is rooted to his line & Hamer just seems to be a mistake waiting to happen. I reckon that with Lossl in goal (I'm banking him on playing for very little of his normal wage due to being desperate to make the Euros at the end of the season) we would have enough to stay clear of a relegation fight. All a matter of opinion obviously but my opinion is just as valuable as yours, to say I need to find a different sport is both ridiculous & just wrong. Problem with this debate is that both of you are right. It will be very interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks.
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Post by turbo2 on Dec 31, 2020 16:22:58 GMT 1
A lot more than you First of all why the chuff in the current climate would we offer to pay the wages of lossl. 11k sc holders money would probably just about cover his wages. Secondly Ryan is showing exactly what everyone knew. He’s a top prospect. Why would a club of our size not want to play a hone grown kid who is such a good prospect? Thirdly the much maligned hamer has shown he can actually perform at a reasonable level. So why would we need another keeper?? I don't for one minute think we are safe from being dragged into a relegation battle, what business we do in this window will be crucial. Our squad is already at breaking point, we cannot continue to pick the same team every game & bring next to noone on. For that reason, I can see why someone might think that the GK position is the last we need to look at, however, IMO, while both GKs have performed better than expected so far, neither fill me with confidence right now, Schofield is rooted to his line & Hamer just seems to be a mistake waiting to happen. I reckon that with Lossl in goal (I'm banking him on playing for very little of his normal wage due to being desperate to make the Euros at the end of the season) we would have enough to stay clear of a relegation fight. All a matter of opinion obviously but my opinion is just as valuable as yours, to say I need to find a different sport is both ridiculous & just wrong. I’m not super confident we won’t get dragged back into a relegation scrap. And I agree the squad is paper thin. But the last position I’m worried about is the goalkeeper. Striker and centre half are much more of a concern
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Post by drumriggend on Jan 2, 2021 19:37:25 GMT 1
Made some good saves again but..
He’s very static and rooted to his line..
Needs to be more assertive on set pieces..
Come out and clear the danger..
1st goal today his fault not reg..
We were screaming “keeper “ when the ball was in mid air..
Young lad but needs to learn..
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 2, 2021 19:54:22 GMT 1
Made some good saves again but.. He’s very static and rooted to his line.. Needs to be more assertive on set pieces.. Come out and clear the danger.. 1st goal today his fault not reg.. We were screaming “keeper “ when the ball was in mid air.. Young lad but needs to learn.. 🙌 Bro Bit fookin harsh Ball lands 5 yards outside the box. REG needed to be stronger. I do agree he tends to stay on his line though. Will always get these type of errors with young kids. At the moment it seems every error gets punished
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Post by drumriggend on Mar 3, 2021 0:05:02 GMT 1
Made some good saves again but.. He’s very static and rooted to his line.. Needs to be more assertive on set pieces.. Come out and clear the danger.. 1st goal today his fault not reg.. We were screaming “keeper “ when the ball was in mid air.. Young lad but needs to learn.. 🙌 Bump..
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Post by drumriggend on Mar 3, 2021 0:09:50 GMT 1
Not being funny but why couldn’t Carlos see this lad isn’t good enough??
He’s like a neurotic frank spencer..
A yard behind the goal line when the ball goes in..
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Post by runner76 on Mar 3, 2021 0:11:04 GMT 1
Why hasn’t the new lad been given a chance? He’s much more experienced??....
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Post by Amigo on Mar 3, 2021 0:23:34 GMT 1
Don't like to slate a young lad trying to make his way in the game but it isn't going well at the moment. Needs taking out of the firing line for me. The corner should have been his and a simple catch but he's so hesitant/reluctant/even scared to try to claim anything it leaves us in a world of trouble if the ball gets swung inside our 6 yard box. You want your keeper to command his area nevermind his 6 yard box.
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Post by Tinpot on Mar 3, 2021 0:32:08 GMT 1
Looked great, then fucked up vs Watford and his weakness on crosses has been exposed and he's not looking a patch on the player he was a couple of months ago.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 3, 2021 0:50:26 GMT 1
Don't like to slate a young lad trying to make his way in the game but it isn't going well at the moment. Needs taking out of the firing line for me. The corner should have been his and a simple catch but he's so hesitant/reluctant/even scared to try to claim anything it leaves us in a world of trouble if the ball gets swung inside our 6 yard box. You want your keeper to command his area nevermind his 6 yard box. I agree. I feel sorry for him. But tonight is the latest example that proves he’s just not good enough ( hopefully at the moment) He just stays rooted to his line or worse, stands behind his line waiting for someone to shoot. The action is ahead of him and sometimes all it needs is for him to come out and dive on top of the ball and he just won’t do it.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 3, 2021 0:53:39 GMT 1
The lad isn't ready for being a regular Championship keeper.
If the other two keepers can't get a look in ahead of a rookie having a mare then what the fuck are the transfer committee doing??
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Post by KiwiPom on Mar 3, 2021 1:00:11 GMT 1
Bolton had a similar problem with a crap keeper so the goalkeeping coach took over and now it's going well. Maybe Clements or Bennett should get their boots and gloves on?
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Post by space hardware on Mar 3, 2021 1:01:17 GMT 1
The lad isn't ready for being a regular Championship keeper. If the other two keepers can't get a look in ahead of a rookie having a mare then what the fuck are the transfer committee doing?? We got rid of a shit keeper to save on wages, leaving us a young keeper who was behind him in the pecking order and two joke loanees. Sums the club up.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 3, 2021 1:04:51 GMT 1
The lad isn't ready for being a regular Championship keeper. If the other two keepers can't get a look in ahead of a rookie having a mare then what the fuck are the transfer committee doing?? We got rid of a shit keeper to save on wages, leaving us a young keeper who was behind him in the pecking order and two joke loanees. Sums the club up. Leutwiler must be absolutely shite if he can't get a game ahead of Schofield who's clearly not ready.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 3, 2021 7:35:05 GMT 1
We got rid of a shit keeper to save on wages, leaving us a young keeper who was behind him in the pecking order and two joke loanees. Sums the club up. Leutwiler must be absolutely shite if he can't get a game ahead of Schofield who's clearly not ready. He was released by Fleetwood so it was pretty obvious we hadn't signed the next Buffon
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Post by k1man999 on Mar 3, 2021 7:54:58 GMT 1
What do our keeping coaches teach them. There in probably lies a big issue too. Apart from lossll can't remember a keeper coming out for crosses on a regular basis at town.
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Post by iangreaves on Mar 3, 2021 8:07:14 GMT 1
We got rid of a shit keeper to save on wages, leaving us a young keeper who was behind him in the pecking order and two joke loanees. Sums the club up. Leutwiler must be absolutely shite if he can't get a game ahead of Schofield who's clearly not ready. He can't even get past Pereira onto the bench.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Mar 3, 2021 8:09:07 GMT 1
when schofield forgot he could pick it up last night and tried to play football. oh dear oh dear.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Mar 3, 2021 8:14:05 GMT 1
It staggers me that we can't find ourselves a decent goalkeeper, they used to be ten a penny. One of Jacko's first signings, Nico Vaesen, cost us peanuts and didn't do too badly. We've had Steve Francis, Steve Harper on loan, our own Alex Smithies, Danny Ward etc..
Now we struggle to find the next Tim Clarke..
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 3, 2021 8:21:52 GMT 1
I feel for the lad. I can see that he has a long way to go, but I can't see how he could have done anything any different with their goal last night.
I also recall a time when Smithies was getting similar criticism.
Give the guy a break hey?
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Mar 3, 2021 8:30:05 GMT 1
Leutwiler must be absolutely shite if he can't get a game ahead of Schofield who's clearly not ready. He was released by Fleetwood so it was pretty obvious we hadn't signed the next Buffon Buffoon changed for accuracy 🤣
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Post by shawsie on Mar 3, 2021 8:37:22 GMT 1
It staggers me that we can't find ourselves a decent goalkeeper, they used to be ten a penny. One of Jacko's first signings, Nico Vaesen, cost us peanuts and didn't do too badly. We've had Steve Francis, Steve Harper on loan, our own Alex Smithies, Danny Ward etc.. Now we struggle to find the next Tim Clarke.. More importantly we dont seem to have a plan. Schofields not ready......as such surely we needed a stop gap who is or someone who can really help him develop? As it is we have a gk from man u who is known to fans of previous clubs as poppadom hands and in his admittedly limited game time was way short and a lad released by fleetwood brought in on a short term deal who nobody has ever seen - strange.
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