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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 21:42:07 GMT 1
Maybe he needs resting and the experienced keeper giving a few games as it is now a relegation fight. In an ideal world (one where we have viable goalkeeping alternatives) we would protect him during his obvious downturn in form.
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 4, 2021 21:52:02 GMT 1
Agreed, he annoyed the sh*8te out of me at times with the lack of a final ball but that was like Platini compared to some that have followed and as described he put in some hard yards in a hard-working team. VLP from 2016/17 would WALK into our current team. I respect your opinion but disagree, mate. The major part of DW's downfall was putting trust players like VLP. That's why he dropped off a cliff as a manager with Town then Schalke. If VLP was so good in 2017, why is he so awful now? It's not like he's old or injured. I wasn’t a big VLP fan. But one of reasons we are in our current state is our dreadful attempts to replace him. God knows what is cost in transfers and wages. But even on the day he left he was still our best option on the wing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 21:53:53 GMT 1
I respect your opinion but disagree, mate. The major part of DW's downfall was putting trust players like VLP. That's why he dropped off a cliff as a manager with Town then Schalke. If VLP was so good in 2017, why is he so awful now? It's not like he's old or injured. I wasn’t a big VLP fan. But one of reasons we are in our current state is our dreadful attempts to replace him. God knows what is cost in transfers and wages. But even on the day he left he was still our best option on the wing That's laughable with what Mbenza has shown since.
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 4, 2021 21:54:41 GMT 1
I think he'd disagree, he thinks Scoffers playing well 🤔 He's obviously not playing well, but the weight of blame from Town fans on him for our recent poor run is disproportionate, IMO... especially when some admit to not even watching the games! His confidence has gone, he needs taking out of the firing line for his own good. The opposition know, atm, all they need to do is throw high balls into the 6 yard box and he'll be rooted to his line (or stood behind it). He may come good eventually but he's costing us atm.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 21:58:42 GMT 1
He's obviously not playing well, but the weight of blame from Town fans on him for our recent poor run is disproportionate, IMO... especially when some admit to not even watching the games! His confidence has gone, he needs taking out of the firing line for his own good. The opposition know, atm, all they need to do is throw high balls into the 6 yard box and he'll be rooted to his line (or stood behind it). He may come good eventually but he's costing us atm. That's what comes with the territory when you 'play the kids'. I'm much more comfortable seasoning Schofield with the prospect of going down than I am scratching at survival with Keough and Holmes.
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 4, 2021 21:58:42 GMT 1
I wasn’t a big VLP fan. But one of reasons we are in our current state is our dreadful attempts to replace him. God knows what is cost in transfers and wages. But even on the day he left he was still our best option on the wing That's laughable with what Mbenza has shown since. No it’s not laughable. Mbenza has played for about 3 months. When VLP left the day we played Luton away , IM was an absolute joke
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 4, 2021 22:00:32 GMT 1
His confidence has gone, he needs taking out of the firing line for his own good. The opposition know, atm, all they need to do is throw high balls into the 6 yard box and he'll be rooted to his line (or stood behind it). He may come good eventually but he's costing us atm. That's what comes with the territory when you 'play the kids'. I'm much more comfortable seasoning Schofield with the prospect of going down than I am scratching at survival with Keough and Holmes. I don't particularly want to see any of the 3 of them play
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 22:00:40 GMT 1
That's laughable with what Mbenza has shown since. No it’s not laughable. Mbenza has played for about 3 months. When VLP left the day we played Luton away , IM was an absolute joke You've picked the wrong game for an argument in favour of VLP. He was a fucking disgrace that day knowing he was on his way to Belgrade.
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 4, 2021 22:03:43 GMT 1
No it’s not laughable. Mbenza has played for about 3 months. When VLP left the day we played Luton away , IM was an absolute joke You've picked the wrong game for an argument in favour of VLP. He was a fucking disgrace that day knowing he was on his way to Belgrade. I didn’t say he played well ffs. I said he was our best winger. Mbenza couldn’t even get a place on the bench. And his mate was getting game time but was so bad it was embarrassing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 22:07:42 GMT 1
You've picked the wrong game for an argument in favour of VLP. He was a fucking disgrace that day knowing he was on his way to Belgrade. I didn’t say he played well ffs. I said he was our best winger. Mbenza couldn’t even get a place on the bench. And his mate was getting game time but was so bad it was embarrassing His mate? Not sure who you mean. Could you elaborate?
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 4, 2021 22:09:45 GMT 1
I didn’t say he played well ffs. I said he was our best winger. Mbenza couldn’t even get a place on the bench. And his mate was getting game time but was so bad it was embarrassing His mate? Not sure who you mean. Could you elaborate? Diakhaby Another 10m spunked trying to replace Rajiv
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 22:12:46 GMT 1
His mate? Not sure who you mean. Could you elaborate? Diakhaby Another 10m spunked trying to replace Rajiv What makes you think Diakhaby was Mbenza's mate? Mbenza has proven to be a talented footballer at the 2nd tier level. Diakhaby has offered nothing at all and VLP falls somewhere in the middle of those two.
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 4, 2021 22:19:14 GMT 1
Diakhaby Another 10m spunked trying to replace Rajiv What makes you think Diakhaby was Mbenza's mate? Mbenza has proven to be a talented footballer at the 2nd tier level. Diakhaby has offered nothing at all and VLP falls somewhere in the middle of those two. You realise we’ve been in the second tier for nearly two seasons now. Mbenza at least has been contributing this season. Last season he was absolutely shocking, as he was in the PL when he was brought in to replace Rajiv. But like I said even right up to the day Rajiv left he was playing most weeks because the players we tried to replace him with were useless
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Post by Amigo on Mar 4, 2021 22:35:03 GMT 1
Diakhaby Another 10m spunked trying to replace Rajiv What makes you think Diakhaby was Mbenza's mate? Mbenza has proven to be a talented footballer at the 2nd tier level. Diakhaby has offered nothing at all and VLP falls somewhere in the middle of those two. You've had a shocker on here regarding VLP, I'd imagine he's not waved back to you or signed an autograph or something considering you said you were thankful how his career is turning out and that he was your most hated player in the last 10 years.
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Post by lesgirondins on Mar 5, 2021 11:47:50 GMT 1
Back to the subject matter in hand, I’d say he’s more Eastwood than Smithies.
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Post by stinkypete on Mar 5, 2021 12:15:57 GMT 1
Weak, poor distribution, positionally all over the place, won’t leave his goaline (in fact seems to end up behind it quite a lot), doesn’t appear very vocal causing panic amongst our very fragile defence and in general simply not good enough and don’t think he ever will be at this level. Fear for him tonight, could get embarrassing for him if he starts trying to claim aerial balls with his feet again. Needs dropping and loaning out next season even if we’re in league One as he’ll be too weak for that league.
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Post by dm on Mar 5, 2021 12:50:27 GMT 1
Weak, poor distribution, positionally all over the place, won’t leave his goaline (in fact seems to end up behind it quite a lot), doesn’t appear very vocal causing panic amongst our very fragile defence and in general simply not good enough and don’t think he ever will be at this level. Fear for him tonight, could get embarrassing for him if he starts trying to claim aerial balls with his feet again. Needs dropping and loaning out next season even if we’re in league One as he’ll be too weak for that league. 21 years old.
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Post by lesgirondins on Mar 5, 2021 13:25:56 GMT 1
At 21 Smithies was an established top notch keeper with over 100apps under his belt. Sadly no comparison.
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Post by runner76 on Mar 5, 2021 13:35:25 GMT 1
Definitely would keep him out this game let one more experienced take over. At least if we lose it won’t dent his confidence
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Post by dm on Mar 5, 2021 14:43:05 GMT 1
At 21 Smithies was an established top notch keeper with over 100apps under his belt. Sadly no comparison. So a lot more (albeit in League One) than the 20 Championship that Schofield has played. Keepers don't peak til about 30 so thats the point about him being 21. Not an irrelevant comparison to former players - Smithies is one of the best keepers in the Championship now.
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Post by stinkypete on Mar 5, 2021 16:30:37 GMT 1
Weak, poor distribution, positionally all over the place, won’t leave his goaline (in fact seems to end up behind it quite a lot), doesn’t appear very vocal causing panic amongst our very fragile defence and in general simply not good enough and don’t think he ever will be at this level. Fear for him tonight, could get embarrassing for him if he starts trying to claim aerial balls with his feet again. Needs dropping and loaning out next season even if we’re in league One as he’ll be too weak for that league. 21 years old. Needs to seriously bulk up and his positional sense is shocking and something that should come naturally. Just not going to be a competent championship keeper IMO
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 17:56:39 GMT 1
Needs to seriously bulk up and his positional sense is shocking and something that should come naturally. Just not going to be a competent championship keeper IMO How is his positional sense shocking? He is young and learning behind a defence which changes regularly and he is just becoming another DATM scapegoat. Do you really think either of our other keepers would be better?
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Post by positive plus + pompous on Mar 5, 2021 18:30:13 GMT 1
If schofield costs us another goal tonight is there any chance our local journalists might dare to ask where the new keeper is ?
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Post by drumriggend on Mar 5, 2021 18:36:31 GMT 1
Needs to seriously bulk up and his positional sense is shocking and something that should come naturally. Just not going to be a competent championship keeper IMO How is his positional sense shocking? He is young and learning behind a defence which changes regularly and he is just becoming another DATM scapegoat. Do you really think either of our other keepers would be better? He’s clueless bro.. He’s costing us a goal every game.. He’s frightened of the ball.. Doesn’t know where his goal line is.. His youth shouldn’t mask the fact that he’s nowhere near being good enough.. 🐶
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Mar 5, 2021 18:41:07 GMT 1
Needs to seriously bulk up and his positional sense is shocking and something that should come naturally. Just not going to be a competent championship keeper IMO How is his positional sense shocking? He is young and learning behind a defence which changes regularly and he is just becoming another DATM scapegoat. Do you really think either of our other keepers would be better?& herein lies the problem... it must have been incredibly hard to come up with 2 GKs who are not good enough to displace a youngster who is so obviously struggling
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 5, 2021 18:47:11 GMT 1
How is his positional sense shocking? He is young and learning behind a defence which changes regularly and he is just becoming another DATM scapegoat. Do you really think either of our other keepers would be better?& herein lies the problem... it must have been incredibly hard to come up with 2 GKs who are not good enough to displace a youngster who is so obviously struggling But if anyone can Town can
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Post by digs on Mar 5, 2021 18:49:14 GMT 1
He frightens me to death when the balls played backed to him,he steps back from it like its a big ball of shit coming at him,he needs to learn to play it a bit quicker
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 5, 2021 19:04:45 GMT 1
Weak, poor distribution, positionally all over the place, won’t leave his goaline (in fact seems to end up behind it quite a lot), doesn’t appear very vocal causing panic amongst our very fragile defence and in general simply not good enough and don’t think he ever will be at this level. Fear for him tonight, could get embarrassing for him if he starts trying to claim aerial balls with his feet again. Needs dropping and loaning out next season even if we’re in league One as he’ll be too weak for that league. I think his distribution is decent, he’s able to use both feet with reasonable success aswell. His issue appears to be nerves based, there is no way you get to his age and play regularly for England being as suspect as he’s looked recently on crosses/positioning. Hopefully he gets himself off social media and puts in some better performances and starts to believe in himself a bit more. II think there’s a very good keeper in there but constant criticism from us is the last thing he needs.
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 5, 2021 19:30:59 GMT 1
At 21 Smithies was an established top notch keeper with over 100apps under his belt. Sadly no comparison. So a lot more (albeit in League One) than the 20 Championship that Schofield has played. Keepers don't peak til about 30 so thats the point about him being 21. Not an irrelevant comparison to former players - Smithies is one of the best keepers in the Championship now. Smithies. One of the best keepers in the B team league I’m afraid
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Post by stinkypete on Mar 5, 2021 20:14:01 GMT 1
Needs to seriously bulk up and his positional sense is shocking and something that should come naturally. Just not going to be a competent championship keeper IMO How is his positional sense shocking? He is young and learning behind a defence which changes regularly and he is just becoming another DATM scapegoat. Do you really think either of our other keepers would be better? Did you not see Swansea’s goal? Don’t care about his age, he’s 21 not 16! He needs to let his defence know he’s there and be in control. Don’t know if our other keepers are better, but that’s the sad state of our football club at the moment if Schofield is the best we have. Hope he proves me wrong.
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