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Post by artysid on Jan 25, 2021 11:21:26 GMT 1
Surely these are going to be a hard sale even to the diehards, before we're certain the ground will be open next season.
Will fans who've had a gap in their season ticket purchase due to the pandemic lose the away points they've built up?
If not is that fair to those who di purchase a season ticket this season?
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Post by impact on Jan 25, 2021 11:33:42 GMT 1
I really don't think away points is going to matter for a long time. I can't think of a recent game in the championship where anyone who wanted a ticket couldn't get one. I think you'd have to go back to St James' park in the promotion season.
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Post by daveswithy1982 on Jan 25, 2021 11:35:31 GMT 1
I think crowds in stadiums will go down enormously after this pandemic! Season tickets are going to be incredibly difficult to shift! Some people have rightly realised that going to football isn't as important as it used to be and have found other things to do on a saturday or a cold tuesday night.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 25, 2021 11:40:04 GMT 1
I think crowds in stadiums will go down enormously after this pandemic! Season tickets are going to be incredibly difficult to shift! Some people have rightly realised that going to football isn't as important as it used to be and have found other things to do on a saturday or a cold tuesday night. Like what? Nothing is open.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 11:49:42 GMT 1
I think crowds in stadiums will go down enormously after this pandemic! Season tickets are going to be incredibly difficult to shift! Some people have rightly realised that going to football isn't as important as it used to be and have found other things to do on a saturday or a cold tuesday night. Like what? Nothing is open. I'll tell you summat, I've had that many cans in the open air (on walks, on benches, sitting by the river) over the past year that I think I might be swapping watching Town to hanging about in Parish church gardens (pigeon park).
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Post by drewden on Jan 25, 2021 11:52:16 GMT 1
Surely these are going to be a hard sale even to the diehards, before we're certain the ground will be open next season. Will fans who've had a gap in their season ticket purchase due to the pandemic lose the away points they've built up? If not is that fair to those who di purchase a season ticket this season? Clubs are going to have a massive rethink on how income is generated, do a lot of supporters not renew, and buy on a game by game scenario where the club will do cheap tickets to get income, its going to piss off season ticket holders. In my post in another thread, just wonder if grounds will just do a pay on the day.
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Post by 28901 on Jan 25, 2021 12:01:54 GMT 1
I think crowds in stadiums will go down enormously after this pandemic! Season tickets are going to be incredibly difficult to shift! Some people have rightly realised that going to football isn't as important as it used to be and have found other things to do on a saturday or a cold tuesday night. Like what? Nothing is open. Fuckin unbelievable. If you prefer lying on your bed staring into space on a Saturday afternoon then fair enough.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 25, 2021 12:12:29 GMT 1
Is there any way grounds arent going to be open next season?
If we're still living under the restrictions that stop it by August, then the world will be so screwed football wont be much of an issue anyway and i doubt therell be many clubs left!
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jan 25, 2021 12:18:06 GMT 1
Blimey. The Philately industry must be bracing itself for a massive boom - football fan’s preferring to stop at home than going to a match. Watching on a screen is absolutely no substitute for going to a game.
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Post by Camel Grabber on Jan 25, 2021 12:23:24 GMT 1
Blimey. The Philately industry must be bracing itself for a massive boom - football fan’s preferring to stop at home than going to a match. Watching on a screen is absolutely no substitute for going to a game. It is if we can only go to a game with our 2 person support bubble and you cant go for a few drinks before. Imagine going to a game, sitting in a mask in the freezing cold without a beer. Give me ifollow and a box of beer in the warmth anyday
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Post by birchencliffe on Jan 25, 2021 12:35:31 GMT 1
Blimey. The Philately industry must be bracing itself for a massive boom - football fan’s preferring to stop at home than going to a match. Watching on a screen is absolutely no substitute for going to a game. If it was under the old conditions i would be inclined to agree. Conditions similar to the ones applied for the Bournemouth game sound woeful. Add to the mix power hungry stewards queue here...mask on....wash hands ...sit down ..kneel down ..stand up ...dont sing...no ..put your hand down you cant go to the toilet... i would sooner switch the food blender on at 3 pm and present my bollocks to it.
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Post by crux on Jan 25, 2021 12:41:27 GMT 1
I hope the grounds are open in August, I've just about had enough of only watching on a TV screen - and so has my wife. She didn't realise I swore so much, or that Town had so many players whose first names were 'Fucking Hell' 😂.
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Post by detox on Jan 25, 2021 12:53:39 GMT 1
I don't know how all the clubs are surviving,non have gone under yet but surely this can't be far off. You sense when one goes it'll be like dominos and dozens will go.
never mind buying a SC, you might not have a club to support. I haven't seen any recent articles on how precarious clubs are but this time of year they usually rely on a chunk of SC sales to boost their coffers. That isn't going to happen this time.
I fear the worst for clubs outside the PL and without massively wealthy owners...
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Post by slackjaw on Jan 25, 2021 12:56:06 GMT 1
Can’t see anyone being in ground next season the virus isn’t going anywhere and the government are absolutely terrified of it. The thought of 20,000 all sat together in one place is more enough to scare them in to banning it. Apparently the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or passing it on so the nhs will still need protecting probably for years to come. The constant threat of lockdown will always be here so why buy a ticket for something you’re unlikely to be able to attend? The government have already proved they couldn’t care less about business going under,football clubs are just another thing that us peasants do so it isn’t high priority for them.
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Post by artysid on Jan 25, 2021 13:04:57 GMT 1
I really don't think away points is going to matter for a long time. I can't think of a recent game in the championship where anyone who wanted a ticket couldn't get one. I think you'd have to go back to St James' park in the promotion season. Your probably right, but they're still going to have to scrap it or explain the criteria IMO
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jan 25, 2021 13:06:38 GMT 1
I think those assuming that when crowds are allowed back in they will be able to continue watching iFollow may be in for a shock. Unless I’m wrong, isn’t this possible at the moment only due to a relaxation of the broadcasting agreement which will end once we are back in?
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Post by artysid on Jan 25, 2021 13:06:53 GMT 1
Is there any way grounds arent going to be open next season? If we're still living under the restrictions that stop it by August, then the world will be so screwed football wont be much of an issue anyway and i doubt therell be many clubs left! Even if you're right Slapps I suspect it's going to be difficult to tempt people with earlybird offers. IMO most people will wait and see.
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Post by daveswithy1982 on Jan 25, 2021 13:08:14 GMT 1
I think crowds in stadiums will go down enormously after this pandemic! Season tickets are going to be incredibly difficult to shift! Some people have rightly realised that going to football isn't as important as it used to be and have found other things to do on a saturday or a cold tuesday night. Like what? Nothing is open. I've got kids so spending more time with them at the weekends - going walking, bike riding and other family things!
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jan 25, 2021 13:08:58 GMT 1
Blimey. The Philately industry must be bracing itself for a massive boom - football fan’s preferring to stop at home than going to a match. Watching on a screen is absolutely no substitute for going to a game. If it was under the old conditions i would be inclined to agree. Conditions similar to the ones applied for the Bournemouth game sound woeful. Add to the mix power hungry stewards queue here...mask on....wash hands ...sit down ..kneel down ..stand up ...dont sing...no ..put your hand down you cant go to the toilet... i would sooner switch the food blender on at 3 pm and present my bollocks to it. Agree with that Birchencliffe - that’s an argument I hadn’t considered. It wouldn’t be a pleasant atmosphere at all using your example.
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Post by joburgjon on Jan 25, 2021 13:11:52 GMT 1
Can’t see anyone being in ground next season the virus isn’t going anywhere and the government are absolutely terrified of it. The thought of 20,000 all sat together in one place is more enough to scare them in to banning it. Apparently the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or passing it on so the nhs will still need protecting probably for years to come. The constant threat of lockdown will always be here so why buy a ticket for something you’re unlikely to be able to attend? The government have already proved they couldn’t care less about business going under,football clubs are just another thing that us peasants do so it isn’t high priority for them. I think it'll be dramatically reduced capacities next season, with loads of restrictions in place around entering and leaving the stadium, toilet access, refreshments sales etc etc. I can imagine our capacity being reduced to about 8,000, potentially with no away fans
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Post by birchencliffe on Jan 25, 2021 13:14:59 GMT 1
If it was under the old conditions i would be inclined to agree. Conditions similar to the ones applied for the Bournemouth game sound woeful. Add to the mix power hungry stewards queue here...mask on....wash hands ...sit down ..kneel down ..stand up ...dont sing...no ..put your hand down you cant go to the toilet... i would sooner switch the food blender on at 3 pm and present my bollocks to it. Agree with that Birchencliffe - that’s an argument I hadn’t considered. It wouldn’t be a pleasant atmosphere at all using your example. They went into it a little bit on RL it didnt sound great and then at the end of the game they remained sat until instructed to leave by stewards..no running in the corridors ,,,divebombing or heavy petting.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jan 25, 2021 13:17:10 GMT 1
Agree with that Birchencliffe - that’s an argument I hadn’t considered. It wouldn’t be a pleasant atmosphere at all using your example. They went into it a little bit on RL it didnt sound great and then at the end of the game they remained sat until instructed to leave by stewards..no running in the corridors ,,,divebombing or heavy petting. No divebombing? That’s it then, I’m not going until we can get back without restrictions!
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Post by slackjaw on Jan 25, 2021 13:20:27 GMT 1
Can’t see anyone being in ground next season the virus isn’t going anywhere and the government are absolutely terrified of it. The thought of 20,000 all sat together in one place is more enough to scare them in to banning it. Apparently the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or passing it on so the nhs will still need protecting probably for years to come. The constant threat of lockdown will always be here so why buy a ticket for something you’re unlikely to be able to attend? The government have already proved they couldn’t care less about business going under,football clubs are just another thing that us peasants do so it isn’t high priority for them. I think it'll be dramatically reduced capacities next season, with loads of restrictions in place around entering and leaving the stadium, toilet access, refreshments sales etc etc. I can imagine our capacity being reduced to about 8,000, potentially with no away fans I hope you’re right I really do as at least that will be some money going into the club. However I just don’t see it at the moment the government don’t seem to care about anything other than protecting the nhs and the backlog of patients on waiting coupled with the virus still circulating in the population means that these restrictions are here to stay. Yes maybe some relaxation in the summer but come the winter rinse and repeat!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 13:42:24 GMT 1
Is there any way grounds arent going to be open next season? If we're still living under the restrictions that stop it by August, then the world will be so screwed football wont be much of an issue anyway and i doubt therell be many clubs left! Even if you're right Slapps I suspect it's going to be difficult to tempt people with earlybird offers. IMO most people will wait and see. Yup. Like a lot of folk probably did this season too, but moreso. I know I renewed like about 2 days before this season started...kind of hoped might get to 4 or 5 games at the back end of the season but prepared to fork out what is over the odds for just the iFollow coverage for one season (but not two). I'd suspect next season there'll be lots of need to encourage pay on the day supporters.
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Post by canterburyterrier on Jan 25, 2021 13:49:10 GMT 1
Can’t see anyone being in ground next season the virus isn’t going anywhere and the government are absolutely terrified of it. The thought of 20,000 all sat together in one place is more enough to scare them in to banning it. Apparently the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or passing it on so the nhs will still need protecting probably for years to come. The constant threat of lockdown will always be here so why buy a ticket for something you’re unlikely to be able to attend? The government have already proved they couldn’t care less about business going under,football clubs are just another thing that us peasants do so it isn’t high priority for them. The vaccine stops you being ill, you can not stop someone catching it - only produce antibodies that can fight the virus. My understanding is that at the moment it is not known if having the vaccine reduces the infection enough to stop you becoming a spreader. At some point we are going to have to go back to living our lives. This requires people to be vaccinated (this reduces the risk of serious infection) and invest in the NHS so it can cope. Those of us that are still in work because we work from home or have been furloughed but still have a job to go to will be paying higher taxes for years to come.
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 25, 2021 13:50:12 GMT 1
I think it'll be dramatically reduced capacities next season, with loads of restrictions in place around entering and leaving the stadium, toilet access, refreshments sales etc etc. I can imagine our capacity being reduced to about 8,000, potentially with no away fans I hope you’re right I really do as at least that will be some money going into the club. However I just don’t see it at the moment the government don’t seem to care about anything other than protecting the nhs and the backlog of patients on waiting coupled with the virus still circulating in the population means that these restrictions are here to stay. Yes maybe some relaxation in the summer but come the winter rinse and repeat! Jesus. What a depressing couple of offers. It’s about time folk got back to living. Life isn’t about ‘being safe’. If the nhs can’t cope then it needs start getting some more nurses and hospitals as we need to get on with our lives
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Post by 28901 on Jan 25, 2021 13:58:13 GMT 1
Can’t see anyone being in ground next season the virus isn’t going anywhere and the government are absolutely terrified of it. The thought of 20,000 all sat together in one place is more enough to scare them in to banning it. Apparently the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or passing it on so the nhs will still need protecting probably for years to come. The constant threat of lockdown will always be here so why buy a ticket for something you’re unlikely to be able to attend? The government have already proved they couldn’t care less about business going under,football clubs are just another thing that us peasants do so it isn’t high priority for them. If the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it or passing it on what on earth is the point of it?
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Post by ambryboy on Jan 25, 2021 13:58:34 GMT 1
I hope you’re right I really do as at least that will be some money going into the club. However I just don’t see it at the moment the government don’t seem to care about anything other than protecting the nhs and the backlog of patients on waiting coupled with the virus still circulating in the population means that these restrictions are here to stay. Yes maybe some relaxation in the summer but come the winter rinse and repeat! Jesus. What a depressing couple of offers. It’s about time folk got back to living. Life isn’t about ‘being safe’.
If the nhs can’t cope then it needs start getting some more nurses and hospitals as we need to get on with our lives[/b] Couldn't agree more. We've lived with 'flu for eons and will continue to do so but sadly some people will perish, Covid needs to be treated the same once the numbers are manageable.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jan 25, 2021 13:58:35 GMT 1
I hope you’re right I really do as at least that will be some money going into the club. However I just don’t see it at the moment the government don’t seem to care about anything other than protecting the nhs and the backlog of patients on waiting coupled with the virus still circulating in the population means that these restrictions are here to stay. Yes maybe some relaxation in the summer but come the winter rinse and repeat! Jesus. What a depressing couple of offers. It’s about time folk got back to living. Life isn’t about ‘being safe’. If the nhs can’t cope then it needs start getting some more nurses and hospitals as we need to get on with our lives Agree. It’s got to the point where I don’t watch the news. Doom and Gloom wherever you look and whatever you read. When the time comes, people who don’t feel “safe” don’t have to go to football.
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Post by drewden on Jan 25, 2021 14:02:37 GMT 1
I don't know how all the clubs are surviving,non have gone under yet but surely this can't be far off. You sense when one goes it'll be like dominos and dozens will go. never mind buying a SC, you might not have a club to support. I haven't seen any recent articles on how precarious clubs are but this time of year they usually rely on a chunk of SC sales to boost their coffers. That isn't going to happen this time. I fear the worst for clubs outside the PL and without massively wealthy owners... Maybe it will bring some of the players out of their little bubble, to realisation how the supporters pay their wages.
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