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Post by Camel Grabber on Jan 25, 2021 14:06:38 GMT 1
Jesus. What a depressing couple of offers. It’s about time folk got back to living. Life isn’t about ‘being safe’.
If the nhs can’t cope then it needs start getting some more nurses and hospitals as we need to get on with our lives[/b] Couldn't agree more. We've lived with 'flu for eons and will continue to do so but sadly some people will perish, Covid needs to be treated the same once the numbers are manageable.[/quote] Everyday we put ourselves at risk. Could get hit by a bus. Could end up in a car crash. Could end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. Many things can happen to any of us everytime we leave the house. Yes, the virus is deadly, but how long can they lock us inside for? People should now be able to make their own choice, if I want to go for a pint, I have made that decision to put myself at risk.
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Post by drewden on Jan 25, 2021 14:19:46 GMT 1
I am 66 in March, and one thing I will not be getting is this jab, only voted once in my life and that was to come out of Europe, I do not and never have trust in our government.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jan 25, 2021 14:36:42 GMT 1
I am 66 in March, and one thing I will not be getting is this jab, only voted once in my life and that was to come out of Europe, I do not and never have trust in our government. Words fail me. ...apart from those, obvs!
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 25, 2021 14:37:44 GMT 1
Can’t see anyone being in ground next season the virus isn’t going anywhere and the government are absolutely terrified of it. The thought of 20,000 all sat together in one place is more enough to scare them in to banning it. Apparently the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or passing it on so the nhs will still need protecting probably for years to come. The constant threat of lockdown will always be here so why buy a ticket for something you’re unlikely to be able to attend? The government have already proved they couldn’t care less about business going under,football clubs are just another thing that us peasants do so it isn’t high priority for them. Heard of the furlough scheme,, the SESS grants 1-4,,,,business property grants,,,delayed taxation deadlines...and so on and the debts these have wracked up? Sooner or later, covid will be an annual jab for the most vulnerable and the world will carry on around that. Endless lockdowns isnt a viable option.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 25, 2021 14:40:31 GMT 1
I am 66 in March, and one thing I will not be getting is this jab, only voted once in my life andthat was to come out of Europe, I do not and never have trust in our government. I strongly believe everybody has and should have that choice but we really would be in trouble if everyone said the same. Do those who don’t have the jab rely on others having it. Becomes a bit like those who chose not to participate in a war, relying on the brave ?
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 25, 2021 14:41:34 GMT 1
Jesus. What a depressing couple of offers. It’s about time folk got back to living. Life isn’t about ‘being safe’. If the nhs can’t cope then it needs start getting some more nurses and hospitals as we need to get on with our lives Agree. It’s got to the point where I don’t watch the news. Doom and Gloom wherever you look and whatever you read. When the time comes, people who don’t feel “safe” don’t have to go to football. The doom and gloom of our media is absolutely disgraceful. Why don’t they go out and start showing what an amazing job we’re doing with the vaccination program. Not that I’m a fan and won’t be having it myself, but having volunteered and worked in the snow for almost 11 hours the other Saturday, every single person who came for the jab were delighted to be having it in the hope they could ‘get on with life’
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 25, 2021 14:42:26 GMT 1
I am 66 in March, and one thing I will not be getting is this jab, only voted once in my life and that was to come out of Europe, I do not and never have trust in our government. That’s worked out really well so far.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jan 25, 2021 14:42:44 GMT 1
I am 66 in March, and one thing I will not be getting is this jab, only voted once in my life and that was to come out of Europe, I do not and never have trust in our government. Would you be happy refusing a place in ICU if you got the virus and became very ill?
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jan 25, 2021 14:43:32 GMT 1
Can’t see anyone being in ground next season the virus isn’t going anywhere and the government are absolutely terrified of it. The thought of 20,000 all sat together in one place is more enough to scare them in to banning it. Apparently the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or passing it on so the nhs will still need protecting probably for years to come. The constant threat of lockdown will always be here so why buy a ticket for something you’re unlikely to be able to attend? The government have already proved they couldn’t care less about business going under,football clubs are just another thing that us peasants do so it isn’t high priority for them. If the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it or passing it on what on earth is the point of it? Stops you dying
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 25, 2021 14:46:06 GMT 1
I am 66 in March, and one thing I will not be getting is this jab, only voted once in my life and that was to come out of Europe, I do not and never have trust in our government. Would you be happy refusing a place in ICU if you got the virus and became very ill? He doesn’t trust the government so surely he wouldn’t trust to be treated by the government run nhs, he will be going private.
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Post by 28901 on Jan 25, 2021 15:01:17 GMT 1
If the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it or passing it on what on earth is the point of it? Stops you dying Well that's the first I've heard. Where is this information? When hour vaccinated you are immune you dont get a different lesser version. That's what a vaccine is isn't it?
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jan 25, 2021 15:06:49 GMT 1
Well that's the first I've heard. Where is this information? When hour vaccinated you are immune you dont get a different lesser version. That's what a vaccine is isn't it? That's the first you've heard of the vaccine stopping you from dying?
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Post by wigster on Jan 25, 2021 15:16:01 GMT 1
I am 66 in March, and one thing I will not be getting is this jab, only voted once in my life and that was to come out of Europe, I do not and never have trust in our government. Because you live in this country you have choices about nearly everything. It's therefore your choice whether you have the jab or not. In spite of me considering you so wrong for not getting the jab I hope you don't get it. More importantly I hope you never give it to anybody else because of, for me, an extremely misguided decision. What on earth has it got to do with trust in this government
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Post by wigster on Jan 25, 2021 15:16:56 GMT 1
Well that's the first I've heard. Where is this information? When hour vaccinated you are immune you dont get a different lesser version. That's what a vaccine is isn't it? NO !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 15:20:25 GMT 1
Well that's the first I've heard. Where is this information? When hour vaccinated you are immune you dont get a different lesser version. That's what a vaccine is isn't it? No. That would be a sterilising immunity vaccine. Obviously that would be better, but if you don't have that (we don't) - then the second best thing is that the risk of adverse symptoms can be massively reduced by a vaccine. Flu vaccines similarly are not sterilising immunity vaccines, they simply mean you're less likely to suffer symptoms - and if everyone who is LIKELY to suffer is vaccinated to that level, then does it really matter that the disease itself is not wiped out? I think we can probably get used to coronavirus vaccines being dished out to over 50's or over 60's or whatever forever more, similar to how the flu vaccines now are...but people younger than 50?? Total waste of money and effort.
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Post by 28901 on Jan 25, 2021 15:54:22 GMT 1
Well that's the first I've heard. Where is this information? When hour vaccinated you are immune you dont get a different lesser version. That's what a vaccine is isn't it? That's the first you've heard of the vaccine stopping you from dying? No, that is the first I've heard about still spreading and people still getting it. However if you don't get ill then its like any other minor respiratory illness. You don't stop in for fear of getting a cold, well I don't. To be honest I obey all the lockdown rules just to prevent the spread to vulnerable or elderly people, and keep the hospital admissions down. Personally I would be quite happy to take the risk.
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Post by artysid on Jan 25, 2021 18:14:51 GMT 1
So getting back to season ticket sales
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jan 25, 2021 18:22:38 GMT 1
I can't see how they can market them at the moment. They must need to plan for several eventualities.
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Post by drewden on Jan 25, 2021 19:12:48 GMT 1
I am 66 in March, and one thing I will not be getting is this jab, only voted once in my life andthat was to come out of Europe, I do not and never have trust in our government. I strongly believe everybody has and should have that choice but we really would be in trouble if everyone said the same. Do those who don’t have the jab rely on others having it. Becomes a bit like those who chose not to participate in a war, relying on the brave ? Good job I am a brave person, served 2 tours of N Ireland in the 70s to defend the weak, looks like I am being brave again not having the jab.
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Post by terrier1970 on Jan 25, 2021 19:32:50 GMT 1
I am 66 in March, and one thing I will not be getting is this jab, only voted once in my life and that was to come out of Europe, I do not and never have trust in our government. Would you be happy refusing a place in ICU if you got the virus and became very ill? What's this a paid up member of QAnon What a bloody hero - of course he'd take up the offer of free medical care - and at the same point put those caring for him at risk, put more pressure on the system that's caring for all, which ultimately could inadvertently cause the unfortunate demise of others. But you go ahead refuse the jab - but do the right thing - if you catch it - stay home and suffer - don't come calling on others to help you out.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 25, 2021 19:44:01 GMT 1
I strongly believe everybody has and should have that choice but we really would be in trouble if everyone said the same. Do those who don’t have the jab rely on others having it. Becomes a bit like those who chose not to participate in a war, relying on the brave ? Good job I am a brave person, served 2 tours of N Ireland in the 70s to defend the weak, looks like I am being brave again not having the jab. No
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Post by drewden on Jan 25, 2021 19:47:44 GMT 1
Would you be happy refusing a place in ICU if you got the virus and became very ill? What's this a paid up member of QAnon What a bloody hero - of course he'd take up the offer of free medical care - and at the same point put those caring for him at risk, put more pressure on the system that's caring for all, which ultimately could inadvertently cause the unfortunate demise of others. But you go ahead refuse the jab - but do the right thing - if you catch it - stay home and suffer - don't come calling on others to help you out. Whats your view on druggies, alcoholics, obesity, should they not call on others to help them out, self inflicted and all that.
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Post by slackjaw on Jan 25, 2021 19:51:52 GMT 1
Can’t see anyone being in ground next season the virus isn’t going anywhere and the government are absolutely terrified of it. The thought of 20,000 all sat together in one place is more enough to scare them in to banning it. Apparently the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or passing it on so the nhs will still need protecting probably for years to come. The constant threat of lockdown will always be here so why buy a ticket for something you’re unlikely to be able to attend? The government have already proved they couldn’t care less about business going under,football clubs are just another thing that us peasants do so it isn’t high priority for them. Heard of the furlough scheme,, the SESS grants 1-4,,,,business property grants,,,delayed taxation deadlines...and so on and the debts these have wracked up? Sooner or later, covid will be an annual jab for the most vulnerable and the world will carry on around that. Endless lockdowns isnt a viable option. Yes I’ve heard of it and it keeps being extended which should tell you everything you need to know.If at some point it ends what will happen to all those currently on furlough will they be re employed and carry on like nothing happened,I hope so but time will tell. Endless lockdown isn’t an option but remember it was three weeks to flatten the curve 10 months ago.We won’t just flick a switch and return to the stadium in our thousands. 650,000 job losses in hospitality alone many of which will be small independent businesses furlough,grants,delayed tax didn’t do much for them. Anyway I really do hope you’re right and will be more than happy to end up with egg on face if you are.
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Post by reverendstarbuck on Jan 25, 2021 20:09:00 GMT 1
What's this a paid up member of QAnon What a bloody hero - of course he'd take up the offer of free medical care - and at the same point put those caring for him at risk, put more pressure on the system that's caring for all, which ultimately could inadvertently cause the unfortunate demise of others. But you go ahead refuse the jab - but do the right thing - if you catch it - stay home and suffer - don't come calling on others to help you out. Whats your view on druggies, alcoholics, obesity, should they not call on others to help them out, self inflicted and all that. You think people choose to become drug addicts, choose to become alcoholics, choose to become obese....? I despair.
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Post by terrier1970 on Jan 25, 2021 20:50:36 GMT 1
I strongly believe everybody has and should have that choice but we really would be in trouble if everyone said the same. Do those who don’t have the jab rely on others having it. Becomes a bit like those who chose not to participate in a war, relying on the brave ? Good job I am a brave person, served 2 tours of N Ireland in the 70s to defend the weak, looks like I am being brave again not having the jab. Tours of Ireland to defend the weak ? Fighting for a Government you don't trust - hypocrisy in the extreme
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Post by Galpharmer on Jan 25, 2021 21:09:31 GMT 1
They're waiting till they've got the Lukas Jutkiewicz signing done, so he can be on the promo posters.
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Post by deo1 on Jan 26, 2021 10:57:46 GMT 1
Would you be happy refusing a place in ICU if you got the virus and became very ill? What's this a paid up member of QAnon What a bloody hero - of course he'd take up the offer of free medical care - and at the same point put those caring for him at risk, put more pressure on the system that's caring for all, which ultimately could inadvertently cause the unfortunate demise of others. But you go ahead refuse the jab - but do the right thing - if you catch it - stay home and suffer - don't come calling on others to help you out. It’s not free medical care as we pay our national insurance and taxes to support it through our wages. My big worry is that the Tory’s keep spouting about protecting the NHS and in a year or two start blaming the general public for not protecting it and using that as an excuse to privatise the NHS, something that they’ve been wanting to do for years when in government!!! As for season ticket sales next season I won’t be buying again going off the shambles of iFollow and Tuesday away games being classed as a Saturday if we’re still not allowed in the ground!!!
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 26, 2021 11:41:41 GMT 1
I don't know how all the clubs are surviving,non have gone under yet but surely this can't be far off. You sense when one goes it'll be like dominos and dozens will go. never mind buying a SC, you might not have a club to support. I haven't seen any recent articles on how precarious clubs are but this time of year they usually rely on a chunk of SC sales to boost their coffers. That isn't going to happen this time. I fear the worst for clubs outside the PL and without massively wealthy owners... Maybe it will bring some of the players out of their little bubble, to realisation how the supporters pay their wages. Except they don't, and haven't done for years. Player wages are paid by TV revenue, sponsorship deals and wealthy chairmen. The money accrued through the gate/SC sales is a piteously small amount in the vast majority of club cases.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 26, 2021 11:44:40 GMT 1
Surely these are going to be a hard sale even to the diehards, before we're certain the ground will be open next season. Will fans who've had a gap in their season ticket purchase due to the pandemic lose the away points they've built up? If not is that fair to those who di purchase a season ticket this season? Im not being funny but you are kind of stating the obvious. Of course it will be a tough sale. Away points are pointless. The usuals on here will have a moan about how the club go about it all...sat in their grundies hoping the club somehow fuck up.
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Post by orinoco on Jan 26, 2021 12:50:59 GMT 1
Season ticket prices will be increased. Price was frozen for those who bought this season. Your seat may be still reserved but will cost you 30/40 quid more if did not buy a season ticket for 20/21. Maybe this thread should be moved to covid?
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