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Post by thrice on Feb 13, 2021 19:58:45 GMT 1
The state of our fitness is increasingly worrying, especially for a side in a real fight for survival now.
Aside from every bugger being injured those that do cross the white line are consistently being over run, out worked & second best in terms of endeavour to their opposite numbers.
The coaching staff own that one & it is unforgivable for me.
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Post by alexdire on Feb 13, 2021 20:01:53 GMT 1
Step back and look at reality. Town 8 games without a win with the following games coming up: Middlesbrough V Huddersfield Town Huddersfield Town V Swansea City Derby County V Huddersfield Town Preston North End V Huddersfield Town I can see Town losing all of these games with the possible exception of Derby (where we might get a draw or possibly win) No manager stays in a job if he has gone 12 games without a win. Corberan is gone. It is just a matter of when. We were “relegated” before getting draws against Man City and Chelsea. We were “relegated” before beating West Brom. Strange things happen in football. Like the strange thing of continuing with the tactic of playing out from the back. Given we've conceded 10+ goals from it and the players are incapable of carrying it out.
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Post by goodbet on Feb 13, 2021 20:22:50 GMT 1
I thought we were down this season before we played a league game. The squad was thin with no goals in it and the injuries have not helped but we have not backed the coach and we are higher that I thought we would be and that is down to our coach.
Has he the where with all to get us out of this mess, I don't know and I guess he doesn't know either.
I will not be voting.
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Post by andyeastleake on Feb 13, 2021 20:27:21 GMT 1
Grant and Mounie - the two top scorers - for two. How many goals have we lost from our team and not replaced? ESR as well. I'll give you ESR. Grant had switched off and Mounie post Crystal Palace away wasn't a patch on what Campbell has done since he signed for Town. Mooksville, you're a really good poster... ...but you really can't mean that?
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 13, 2021 20:29:59 GMT 1
I'll give you ESR. Grant had switched off and Mounie post Crystal Palace away wasn't a patch on what Campbell has done since he signed for Town. That's good of you. Grant still scored 19 league goals last season and Mounie also scored more than Campbell has this season (8 versus 5). How can you disregard losing 27 league goals from Grant and Mounie? That genuinely astounds me. 27 goals lost from the team and it's not been weakened? I fuckin' give up! Yeah but Campbell runs around a lot and is far better at kicking people and falling over
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 20:32:51 GMT 1
It seems an easy excuse to blame the squad and injuries, but I feel it genuinely applies here. I just can't see how anyone at all could come in and do better with this current group. Carlos has shown lots of positive signs - plenty more than the Cowleys did, who had a superior squad. I feel it'd be a mistake to let him go so soon. The problem lies higher up. the players let him themselves and the club down badly in the seccond half end of those wanting him out were singing is praises eary on in the season and quite rightly but hypocrites in numberes on here. carlos hasz to stay up or down but we are in a real battle but not down yet although the drama quenns are out in force again
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Post by specialun on Feb 13, 2021 20:33:16 GMT 1
I don't think jesus christ himself could turn this lot around.and he did miracle's for fun ☹️ As weak a squad Carlos has... Jesus Christ might play players in their correct positions Its not asking Carlos to turn water into wine
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Post by specialun on Feb 13, 2021 20:34:22 GMT 1
The state of our fitness is increasingly worrying, especially for a side in a real fight for survival now. Aside from every bugger being injured those that do cross the white line are consistently being over run, out worked & second best in terms of endeavour to their opposite numbers. The coaching staff own that one & it is unforgivable for me. And a marked deterioration from early months when it seemed we built up fitness gradually and looked fitter than most
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Post by ACW on Feb 13, 2021 20:36:11 GMT 1
That's good of you. Grant still scored 19 league goals last season and Mounie also scored more than Campbell has this season (8 versus 5). How can you disregard losing 27 league goals from Grant and Mounie? That genuinely astounds me. 27 goals lost from the team and it's not been weakened? I fuckin' give up! Yeah but Campbell runs around a lot and is far better at kicking people and falling over Seriously though, I actually think when he stays on his feet, Campbell's all round game is better than that of Grant or Mounie. He gives away stupid freekicks, but he can hold the ball up and bring others into the play. The problem is that for all their faults, Grant and Mounie scored lots of goals. We haven't replaced them. Nowhere near. Even if we'd replaced half their goal output we'd be thinking about challenging for the play offs, not worrying about relegation to League One.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 20:37:58 GMT 1
It seems an easy excuse to blame the squad and injuries, but I feel it genuinely applies here. I just can't see how anyone at all could come in and do better with this current group. Carlos has shown lots of positive signs - plenty more than the Cowleys did, who had a superior squad. I feel it'd be a mistake to let him go so soon. The problem lies higher up. the players let him themselves and the club down badly in the seccond half end of those wanting him out were swinging is praises eary on in the season and quite rightly but hypocrites in numberes ion here. carlos hasz to stay up or down but we are in a real battle but not doqwn nyet although the drama quenns are out in force again Are you pissed?
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Feb 13, 2021 20:40:20 GMT 1
I would love to know what Carlos promised he would/could deliver & what he needed to be given to achieve that. Only then would we be able to answer this question.
However, the mere fact we have no plan b (i.e bring a big striker on to lump balls up to in the last 10 mins) could be down to CC saying he didn't want a big lump or it could be down to Phil not getting him one when he wanted one. That being said, I would have stuck Sarr up there to do that job, it would have been worth trying. CC is far from blameless, things like bringing Pritchard on every game with 20 mins to go is getting boring, he's not made a jot of difference any time he's tried it.
What worries me is that we are no longer moving the forward quickly, we have become very boring to watch again, yet we still concede awful goals.
Phil & Carlos are the only ones who know what was agreed, if Carlos has what he wanted (or he is happy with the squad as it is now) maybe he should be sacked, if he has been let down it would be very wrong to sack him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 20:40:26 GMT 1
the players let him themselves and the club down badly in the seccond half end of those wanting him out were swinging is praises eary on in the season and quite rightly but hypocrites in numberes ion here. carlos hasz to stay up or down but we are in a real battle but not doqwn nyet although the drama quenns are out in force again Are you pissed? i am after that seccond half!
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Post by ACW on Feb 13, 2021 20:41:39 GMT 1
I don't think jesus christ himself could turn this lot around.and he did miracle's for fun ☹️ As weak a squad Carlos has... Jesus Christ might play players in their correct positions Its not asking Carlos to turn water into wine I can't dispute that. Managers can be guilty of over complicating things when returning to basics is often best. Particularly when a team is struggling. Look at Klopp at Liverpool. Continuing to play midfielders in central defence despite buying two centre halves and having a couple of young lads who've done okay there. By playing Henderson and others at the back he's actually weakened two parts of his team - midfield and defence. Carlos has done something similar today. Playing Hogg and O'Brien in defence has weakened both our midfield and defence when other options were available. I'd rather see young, inexperienced defenders playing behind a strong, experienced midfield, than converted midfielders playing behind a weakened midfield.
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Post by willo on Feb 13, 2021 20:43:24 GMT 1
i am after that seccond half! Even Oggy & Glennon didn’t have anything positive to say today, not often that happens.
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Post by jimmymcgill on Feb 13, 2021 20:47:07 GMT 1
Hodgkinson said he asked Carlos to make sure we were not looking over our shoulders towards the end of the season, he has failed to deliver that, would the Cowleys have survived that?
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Post by specialun on Feb 13, 2021 20:50:34 GMT 1
As weak a squad Carlos has... Jesus Christ might play players in their correct positions Its not asking Carlos to turn water into wine I can't dispute that. Managers can be guilty of over complicating things when returning to basics is often best when a team is struggling. Look at Klopp at Liverpool. Continuing to play midfielders in central defence despite buying two centre halves and having a couple of young lads who've done okay there. By playing Henderson and others at the back he's actually weakened two parts of his team - midfield and defence. Carlos has done something similar today. Playing Hogg and O'Brien in defence has weakened both our midfield and defence when other options were available. To be fair to Carlos he didn’t have many options at left back - but that made it more baffling to move Hogg
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Post by ACW on Feb 13, 2021 20:55:59 GMT 1
I can't dispute that. Managers can be guilty of over complicating things when returning to basics is often best when a team is struggling. Look at Klopp at Liverpool. Continuing to play midfielders in central defence despite buying two centre halves and having a couple of young lads who've done okay there. By playing Henderson and others at the back he's actually weakened two parts of his team - midfield and defence. Carlos has done something similar today. Playing Hogg and O'Brien in defence has weakened both our midfield and defence when other options were available. To be fair to Carlos he didn’t have many options at left back - but that made it more baffling to move Hogg I was expecting a three man defence with wing backs.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 13, 2021 21:28:10 GMT 1
i am after that seccond half! Even Oggy & Glennon didn’t have anything positive to say today, not often that happens. I know that Glennon has a major issue with what’s happening in our training sessions and he reiterated that today. It’s all about the players “numbers” produced in training rather than ensuring they are fresh for the games. Hence also, the amount of training injuries we are suffering.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 13, 2021 21:29:12 GMT 1
No one surely can say they want him sacked?
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Post by ACW on Feb 13, 2021 21:30:00 GMT 1
Even Oggy & Glennon didn’t have anything positive to say today, not often that happens. I know that Glennon has a major issue with what’s happening in our training sessions and he reiterated that today. It’s all about the players “numbers” produced in training rather than ensuring they are fresh for the games. Hence also, the amount of training injuries we are suffering. Based on that second half performance the players looked either under or overtrained. Either the way, they couldn't handle Wycombe physically.
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Post by griffa on Feb 13, 2021 21:32:29 GMT 1
He needs 3 years to turn us into Leeds Utd😀 Don't want to be L666ds Utd! - UTT.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 13, 2021 21:36:54 GMT 1
I was listening to his interview with Radio Leeda before the game today and i was honestly struggling to understand what he was saying. Just how effectively can he communicate with the players? He certainly didnt seem to be able to get his message across to them second half
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Post by griffa on Feb 13, 2021 21:38:57 GMT 1
I know that Glennon has a major issue with what’s happening in our training sessions and he reiterated that today. It’s all about the players “numbers” produced in training rather than ensuring they are fresh for the games. Hence also, the amount of training injuries we are suffering. Based on that second half performance the players looked either under or overtrained. Either the way, they couldn't handle Wycombe physically. Oggy = Vanilla Radio - Mr Nice!
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 13, 2021 21:43:05 GMT 1
I was listening to his interview with Radio Leeda before the game today and i was honestly struggling to understand what he was saying. Just how effectively can he communicate with the players? He certainly didnt seem to be able to get his message across to them second half He sounded like Roadrunner on steroids.
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Post by ldotm on Feb 13, 2021 21:49:30 GMT 1
I was listening to his interview with Radio Leeda before the game today and i was honestly struggling to understand what he was saying. Just how effectively can he communicate with the players? He certainly didnt seem to be able to get his message across to them second half I agree in he’s hard to understand as I have difficulty with it too. However and I hate to bring up the whole Leeds story but he was supposedly the interpreter for Bielsa to their players and their message seemed to get across pretty well.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Feb 13, 2021 21:51:59 GMT 1
Out. for his own sanity.
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Post by terriers2000 on Feb 13, 2021 21:52:05 GMT 1
Step back and look at reality. Town 8 games without a win with the following games coming up: Middlesbrough V Huddersfield Town Huddersfield Town V Swansea City Derby County V Huddersfield Town Preston North End V Huddersfield Town I can see Town losing all of these games with the possible exception of Derby (where we might get a draw or possibly win) No manager stays in a job if he has gone 12 games without a win. Corberan is gone. It is just a matter of when. knowing town it would be typical if we beat boro and Swansea off the park
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Post by captainjack on Feb 13, 2021 21:58:19 GMT 1
Not CC’s Fault. It’s PH’s fault for not backing him with quality.
Simples!!
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Post by goodbet on Feb 13, 2021 22:03:19 GMT 1
We haven't been able to handle anyone who was physical all season. To make matters worse we imported midgets in the January window.
I seriously have had issues with our overall lack of a plan. We did not seam to have an idea of the shape we wanted to mold the team in to. Can anyone figure it we seemed to be heading in to a team with only a non scoring false nine with a small lightweight quick midfield with an abundant number of aged center backs.
It did not seem like a thought out plan to me.
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Post by boooothy on Feb 13, 2021 22:06:40 GMT 1
I was listening to his interview with Radio Leeda before the game today and i was honestly struggling to understand what he was saying. Just how effectively can he communicate with the players? He certainly didnt seem to be able to get his message across to them second half I can’t listen to him, i always wait till i can read his comments.
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