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Post by greyarea on Feb 24, 2021 1:21:06 GMT 1
I think it is fair to say Jonas Loessl was a good man and a straight up guy. Not one for playing media games. Notice his credit to Mark Hudson, Dr John Iga & the Cowley brothers.
It is fair to say all played significant contributions to keeping Huddersfield up and now all no longer at the club.
I thought at the time and continue to think it was pretty shocking to throw away the signs of progress Huddersfield had made.
While not happy with the decision, I was willing to give Corberan a chance. That for me it is now over and it is not a simple reaction to the loss to Derby tonight. It is the constant conceding of cheap goals, because their is no effective coaching happening on when Town lose the ball in transition. No players have a clue where they are suppose to be when we lose possession. That means we concede soft goals. That means the defense get jittery, that means the keeper loses confidence as to whether he comes or stays.
Added to that, besides the anomaly of the Swansea game, when have we scored all these goals and where has this incisive attacking play been? That was the promise or justification of bringing Corberan in.
I try to be objective as I can be and can see some interesting attacking patterns outside the box, but it is to little and too infrequent.
I think Town are headed for relegation. We never win at Preston. Birmingham, Cardiff, QPR & Sheffield Weds all have the ability to beat us. Where would that leave us at the end of March? A team shot of confidence and in a relegation place.
Just 7 months have passed.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Feb 24, 2021 8:45:46 GMT 1
We were in such a mess last season but we still had Grant, Mounie, Smith-Rowe, Lossl, some real quality for this level. Now we have so little in comparison. The club appears to have just given up.
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Post by alexdire on Feb 24, 2021 9:33:12 GMT 1
I think it is fair to say Jonas Loessl was a good man and a straight up guy. Not one for playing media games. Notice his credit to Mark Hudson, Dr John Iga & the Cowley brothers. It is fair to say all played significant contributions to keeping Huddersfield up and now all no longer at the club. I thought at the time and continue to think it was pretty shocking to throw away the signs of progress Huddersfield had made. While not happy with the decision, I was willing to give Corberan a chance. That for me it is now over and it is not a simple reaction to the loss to Derby tonight. It is the constant conceding of cheap goals, because their is no effective coaching happening on when Town lose the ball in transition. No players have a clue where they are suppose to be when we lose possession. That means we concede soft goals. That means the defense get jittery, that means the keeper loses confidence as to whether he comes or stays. Added to that, besides the anomaly of the Swansea game, when have we scored all these goals and where has this incisive attacking play been? That was the promise or justification of bringing Corberan in. I try to be objective as I can be and can see some interesting attacking patterns outside the box, but it is to little and too infrequent. I think Town are headed for relegation. We never win at Preston. Birmingham, Cardiff, QPR & Sheffield Weds all have the ability to beat us. Where would that leave us at the end of March? A team shot of confidence and in a relegation place. Just 7 months have passed. The only thing I would disagree with you on is That Birmingham are as bad as us and don't think they'd beat us.
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Post by durhamterrier on Feb 24, 2021 9:35:33 GMT 1
Brum , Cardiff , Wednesday all play the same way as Wycombe . We do well against teams that try and play football . I’ve more hope in us beating Brentford at home than Birmingham
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Post by sociallydistant on Feb 24, 2021 9:40:24 GMT 1
Rooney gave Corberan a lesson in how to organise a team last night. His lot knew their jobs and kept good shape. Those are the basics required to get results. Our lot whilst being able to move the ball around and at times transition quickly, seem to have zero understanding of shape and formation.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Feb 24, 2021 9:46:21 GMT 1
I’d chop my left bollock off to have Lossl back
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Post by runner76 on Feb 24, 2021 10:13:53 GMT 1
With a fairly full squad - which was pretty shite anyway - CC was at times over achieving and getting some good play from the lads. Right now there are so many key players not fit, surely we can’t hold him fully responsible?!? It’s like two wheels have fallen off his racing car and we blame his bad driving
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Post by detox on Feb 24, 2021 10:44:34 GMT 1
No team will play open football against us, Swansea made that mistake..but every other club knows we have no fire poweer, no plan B and are vulnerable at the back...so they sit..and wait...Look at Bristol City..they sat for the entire 2nd half , we threw everything at it but still lost..Bristol City have lost six in a row since then (until last night under new manager)...
We don't have a big target man up top, we won't push Sarr up when chasing games so we can try another tactic..we just carry on with this "tra-la-la, we've got the ball" football and the oposition just go "boom boom"..we've won.
I remember Mark Robins having us play this way, and the fans were shouting " get it forrad"...but under Corberan it's all...give him time, we've got injuries, the players aren't good enough...
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 24, 2021 10:49:27 GMT 1
Rooney gave Corberan a lesson in how to organise a team last night. His lot knew their jobs and kept good shape. Those are the basics required to get results. Our lot whilst being able to move the ball around and at times transition quickly, seem to have zero understanding of shape and formation. Did I dream this, or is the whalley with the brolly employed by Derby to sort out the tactical side of things?
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Feb 24, 2021 10:52:41 GMT 1
I’d chop my left bollock off to have Lossl back So would I. Mainly cos I'd love to see your face when I chopped your left bollock off.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Feb 24, 2021 11:09:06 GMT 1
I’d chop my left bollock off to have Lossl back So would I. Mainly cos I'd love to see your face when I chopped your left bollock off. Pain would be worth it knowing full well a cross would be claimed without our centre backs having to hack it off the line
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Feb 24, 2021 11:13:26 GMT 1
I’d chop my left bollock off to have Lossl back So would I. Mainly cos I'd love to see your face when I chopped your left bollock off. I would assist in the bollock chopping off if it meant Lossl returned.
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Post by wigster on Feb 24, 2021 11:30:04 GMT 1
If you think that Hodgkinson and Hoyle were willing to put up with the way the Cowleys wanted to have influence for a minute longer you are mistaken. The two Chairmen's egos would not have allowed it and the Cowleys had to go, as soon as they did the job they were brought in to do.
Much better to give it to the personable and very passive Corberan, and the rumour I heard is that Danny Schofield is being groomed to eventually take over...
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Post by sociallydistant on Feb 24, 2021 12:12:37 GMT 1
If you think that Hodgkinson and Hoyle were willing to put up with the way the Cowleys wanted to have influence for a minute longer you are mistaken. The two Chairmen's egos would not have allowed it and the Cowleys had to go, as soon as they did the job they were brought in to do. Much better to give it to the personable and very passive Corberan, and the rumour I heard is that Danny Schofield is being groomed to eventually take over... Much like Mark Hudson ....that ended well and still paying his hefty salary.
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Post by terriertim on Feb 24, 2021 12:14:37 GMT 1
If you think that Hodgkinson and Hoyle were willing to put up with the way the Cowleys wanted to have influence for a minute longer you are mistaken. The two Chairmen's egos would not have allowed it and the Cowleys had to go, as soon as they did the job they were brought in to do. Much better to give it to the personable and very passive Corberan, and the rumour I heard is that Danny Schofield is being groomed to eventually take over... Really does this involve a bag of sweets and a cheeky smile and extra lessons after training ? Not the best word to use methinks (unless you want a Jim'll Fix It Badge)
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 24, 2021 12:55:33 GMT 1
I’d chop my left bollock off to have Lossl back Lossl had “presence” Our current No1 has none at all.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 24, 2021 20:26:57 GMT 1
What were these signs of progress ?
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 24, 2021 20:28:26 GMT 1
If you think that Hodgkinson and Hoyle were willing to put up with the way the Cowleys wanted to have influence for a minute longer you are mistaken. The two Chairmen's egos would not have allowed it and the Cowleys had to go, as soon as they did the job they were brought in to do. Much better to give it to the personable and very passive Corberan, and the rumour I heard is that Danny Schofield is being groomed to eventually take over... The only time in the last 12 months I've been grateful for the 2 chairman's egos
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Post by hypotenuse on Feb 24, 2021 20:37:56 GMT 1
What were these signs of progress ? Not losing every week for a start Accumulating points at about 1.3 per game
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Feb 24, 2021 20:38:50 GMT 1
If you think that Hodgkinson and Hoyle were willing to put up with the way the Cowleys wanted to have influence for a minute longer you are mistaken. The two Chairmen's egos would not have allowed it and the Cowleys had to go, as soon as they did the job they were brought in to do. Much better to give it to the personable and very passive Corberan, and the rumour I heard is that Danny Schofield is being groomed to eventually take over... I bloody hope not.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Feb 24, 2021 20:54:31 GMT 1
I’d chop my left bollock off to have Lossl back Is it you that's also eating his cock if we don't get relegated - at this rate there wont be much of your gentleman's vegetables left
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Post by ACW on Feb 24, 2021 21:00:05 GMT 1
I think it is fair to say Jonas Loessl was a good man and a straight up guy. Not one for playing media games. Notice his credit to Mark Hudson, Dr John Iga & the Cowley brothers. It is fair to say all played significant contributions to keeping Huddersfield up and now all no longer at the club. I thought at the time and continue to think it was pretty shocking to throw away the signs of progress Huddersfield had made. While not happy with the decision, I was willing to give Corberan a chance. That for me it is now over and it is not a simple reaction to the loss to Derby tonight. It is the constant conceding of cheap goals, because their is no effective coaching happening on when Town lose the ball in transition. No players have a clue where they are suppose to be when we lose possession. That means we concede soft goals. That means the defense get jittery, that means the keeper loses confidence as to whether he comes or stays. Added to that, besides the anomaly of the Swansea game, when have we scored all these goals and where has this incisive attacking play been? That was the promise or justification of bringing Corberan in. I try to be objective as I can be and can see some interesting attacking patterns outside the box, but it is to little and too infrequent. I think Town are headed for relegation. We never win at Preston. Birmingham, Cardiff, QPR & Sheffield Weds all have the ability to beat us. Where would that leave us at the end of March? A team shot of confidence and in a relegation place. Just 7 months have passed. I wonder how much more progress the Cowleys would have managed to achieve with a considerably weakened squad. No Mounie, Grant or ESR to rely on this season.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Feb 24, 2021 21:07:05 GMT 1
I’d chop my left bollock off to have Lossl back Is it you that's also eating his cock if we don't get relegated - at this rate there wont be much of your gentleman's vegetables left Not me Keith - seems to be a few cock related quotes on this site...
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Feb 24, 2021 21:19:49 GMT 1
If you think that Hodgkinson and Hoyle were willing to put up with the way the Cowleys wanted to have influence for a minute longer you are mistaken. The two Chairmen's egos would not have allowed it and the Cowleys had to go, as soon as they did the job they were brought in to do. Much better to give it to the personable and very passive Corberan, and the rumour I heard is that Danny Schofield is being groomed to eventually take over... Much like Mark Hudson ....that ended well and still paying his hefty salary. None too bright managers sometimes have spells but they never succeed. You need mental acuity. Thick as a brick? Think of recent Town managers.
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Post by greyarea on Feb 24, 2021 21:26:30 GMT 1
I think it is fair to say Jonas Loessl was a good man and a straight up guy. Not one for playing media games. Notice his credit to Mark Hudson, Dr John Iga & the Cowley brothers. It is fair to say all played significant contributions to keeping Huddersfield up and now all no longer at the club. I thought at the time and continue to think it was pretty shocking to throw away the signs of progress Huddersfield had made. While not happy with the decision, I was willing to give Corberan a chance. That for me it is now over and it is not a simple reaction to the loss to Derby tonight. It is the constant conceding of cheap goals, because their is no effective coaching happening on when Town lose the ball in transition. No players have a clue where they are suppose to be when we lose possession. That means we concede soft goals. That means the defense get jittery, that means the keeper loses confidence as to whether he comes or stays. Added to that, besides the anomaly of the Swansea game, when have we scored all these goals and where has this incisive attacking play been? That was the promise or justification of bringing Corberan in. I try to be objective as I can be and can see some interesting attacking patterns outside the box, but it is to little and too infrequent. I think Town are headed for relegation. We never win at Preston. Birmingham, Cardiff, QPR & Sheffield Weds all have the ability to beat us. Where would that leave us at the end of March? A team shot of confidence and in a relegation place. Just 7 months have passed. I wonder how much more progress the Cowleys would have managed to achieve with a considerably weakened squad. No Mounie, Grant or ESR to rely on this season. I think the Cowley's would have had Huddersfield considerably higher in the league than we are now. My reasoning is the Cowley's knew how to organise and set up a team so that a team would not concede soft goals and would be difficult to break down. I think it is a false narrative that if a team is good defensively then they are not good at attacking or a team can attack but can't defend. I reject this. I watched the Cowley's bring their Lincoln team to play Jan Siewerts Town. They did not play long ball football. The systematically broke Huddersfield down in every single department and look a superior side in every aspect of the game. The Cowley's did what was required last season, to get a team that had 1pt from 9 games to survive relegation. Something that had never been done before. Town would have a clear game plan, be hard to beat and would win their fair share of games even with the present team under the Cowley's. That is just my personal opinion and is simply a hypothetical.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 24, 2021 21:56:07 GMT 1
What were these signs of progress ? Not losing every week for a start Accumulating points at about 1.3 per game The football never got any better
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 24, 2021 21:58:21 GMT 1
So would I. Mainly cos I'd love to see your face when I chopped your left bollock off. Pain would be worth it knowing full well a cross would be claimed without our centre backs having to hack it off the line You'd probably still be convalescing...
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Post by hypotenuse on Feb 24, 2021 21:59:43 GMT 1
I wonder how much more progress the Cowleys would have managed to achieve with a considerably weakened squad. No Mounie, Grant or ESR to rely on this season. I think the Cowley's would have had Huddersfield considerably higher in the league than we are now. My reasoning is the Cowley's knew how to organise and set up a team so that a team would not concede soft goals and would be difficult to break down. I think it is a false narrative that if a team is good defensively then they are not good at attacking or a team can attack but can't defend. I reject this. I watched the Cowley's bring their Lincoln team to play Jan Siewerts Town. They did not play long ball football. The systematically broke Huddersfield down in every single department and look a superior side in every aspect of the game. The Cowley's did what was required last season, to get a team that had 1pt from 9 games to survive relegation. Something that had never been done before. Town would have a clear game plan, be hard to beat and would win their fair share of games even with the present team under the Cowley's. That is just my personal opinion and is simply a hypothetical. I agree with you. I didn’t like some of the Cowley shithousery stuff and the football was often dour. I am certainly not anti-CC either but it is naive in the extreme to bring in an expansive style with our limited investment. I don’t think the Cowleys would have let the board get away with the risible level of investment nor the ridiculous over-dependence on academy players. Even if it required big investment again in January this year, it would have been worth it against the prospect of relegation - as I’ve said before, we’ve NEVER come back up quickly after relegation from the 2nd tier - 10, 7 and 11 years respectively. Based on that, if we go down this year, we probably won’t return until the 2030s. That really would be costly.
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Post by hypotenuse on Feb 24, 2021 22:02:45 GMT 1
Not losing every week for a start Accumulating points at about 1.3 per game The football never got any better I don’t disagree with you but I don’t really care. Some of the worst football I’ve seen from Town in the last 30 years was 1993-95 but the manager then has become a legend at the club.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 24, 2021 22:03:46 GMT 1
I wonder how much more progress the Cowleys would have managed to achieve with a considerably weakened squad. No Mounie, Grant or ESR to rely on this season. I think the Cowley's would have had Huddersfield considerably higher in the league than we are now. My reasoning is the Cowley's knew how to organise and set up a team so that a team would not concede soft goals and would be difficult to break down. I think it is a false narrative that if a team is good defensively then they are not good at attacking or a team can attack but can't defend. I reject this. I watched the Cowley's bring their Lincoln team to play Jan Siewerts Town. They did not play long ball football. The systematically broke Huddersfield down in every single department and look a superior side in every aspect of the game. The Cowley's did what was required last season, to get a team that had 1pt from 9 games to survive relegation. Something that had never been done before. Town would have a clear game plan, be hard to beat and would win their fair share of games even with the present team under the Cowley's. That is just my personal opinion and is simply a hypothetical. And I'd have been £250 better off as I wouldn't have bought a season ticket
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