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Post by ambryboy on Jun 3, 2022 22:08:42 GMT 1
Leeds and WBA linked now. WBA would be a poor move and I’d be pretty disappointed if he moved sideways there. If Leeds have the £15m (which I’d demand) then you could understand that move. Nothing more than the pre agreed 10-12m release clause can be demanded, which is a shame because I agree with your estimation Hopefully more than one club would be interested sparking a bidding war. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 3, 2022 22:25:00 GMT 1
Nothing more than the pre agreed 10-12m release clause can be demanded, which is a shame because I agree with your estimation Hopefully more than one club would be interested sparking a bidding war. If there's a release clause there won't be a bidding war. Once the clause is met, it's down to the player. We won't get a penny over the amount specified in the clause whether there's one club interested or 50. |
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Post by ambryboy on Jun 3, 2022 22:45:10 GMT 1
Hopefully more than one club would be interested sparking a bidding war. If there's a release clause there won't be a bidding war. Once the clause is met, it's down to the player. We won't get a penny over the amount specified in the clause whether there's one club interested or 50. I didn't realise that, such a shame we can't sit back and watch a couple of teams in a bidding war particularly when you think what we paid for certain players in our recent history. |
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Post by ponteterrier on Jun 4, 2022 17:41:33 GMT 1
Agree Ponte. Why go to WBA when we will be above them in the league next season. Similar why Rhodes went to Blackburn. Money money money At the time Blackburn looked like they were going to buy their way up into the PL, and the money offered was ridiculous. I don't think West Brom will offer more than what Leeds or other top table teams will, and I think he will be on a good wedge here |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Jun 4, 2022 17:50:50 GMT 1
How could WBA afford that kind of dosh anyway?
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Post by football on Jun 4, 2022 17:52:04 GMT 1
Wouldn't a new contract potential negate any previous release clause, just a thought.
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Post by dezzly on Jun 4, 2022 18:21:50 GMT 1
How could WBA afford that kind of dosh anyway? Parachute payments |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jun 4, 2022 19:08:34 GMT 1
How could WBA afford that kind of dosh anyway? Parachute payments They don’t get parachute payments next year. They won’t be able to offer massive wages given the squad they have. |
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Post by crux on Jun 4, 2022 19:26:58 GMT 1
They don’t get parachute payments next year. They won’t be able to offer massive wages given the squad they have. They may not be able to offer massive waged, but they will get the 2nd and last year of parachute payments in the 22/23 season. |
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Post by dezzly on Jun 4, 2022 19:33:36 GMT 1
They don’t get parachute payments next year. They won’t be able to offer massive wages given the squad they have. Next season is only the second season they have been down isn’t it?surely still getting parachute.if I’m wrong fair enough. |
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 4, 2022 19:38:16 GMT 1
Parachute payments? What are they?! I wish we’d got some when we went down to help rebuild our squad … oh, hang on …
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 4, 2022 19:43:18 GMT 1
They'll have their next installment of the Grant transfer fee to pay soon.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jun 4, 2022 19:46:49 GMT 1
I wonder if LOB would be open to a new contract?
A gentleman’s agreement that he’d be free to leave for a set price but one substantially higher than his current release clause.
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Post by boooothy on Jun 4, 2022 22:01:14 GMT 1
I wonder if LOB would be open to a new contract? A gentleman’s agreement that he’d be free to leave for a set price but one substantially higher than his current release clause. I doubt it. As it stands i imagine his wages will be 30k a week at his new club. He’d be mad to give that up. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jun 4, 2022 22:57:21 GMT 1
They don’t get parachute payments next year. They won’t be able to offer massive wages given the squad they have. Next season is only the second season they have been down isn’t it?surely still getting parachute.if I’m wrong fair enough. It is. Sorry, I’m in the mindset that next season would be’23/24. My point being that they may be able to pay a transfer fee but can’t offer big wages over 3 or 4 years. |
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Post by detox on Jun 5, 2022 6:45:58 GMT 1
O'Brien is a talent and £10m does seem undervalued.. However if we can bring in two central midfield players by recruiting from lower leagues and Carlos coaching them, we'll have done OK.I sometimes think O'Brien drifts in and out of games and lacks a finish. Of course finding replacements is easier said..
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Post by Melc on Jun 5, 2022 9:21:42 GMT 1
O'Brien is a talent and £10m does seem undervalued.. However if we can bring in two central midfield players by recruiting from lower leagues and Carlos coaching them, we'll have done OK.I sometimes think O'Brien drifts in and out of games and lacks a finish. Of course finding replacements is easier said.. If our policy is to continue to add to this squad from the lower leagues then we won’t be anywhere near good enough this next season. We had no choice under PH but to look at the the lower leagues, but now we need some serious invest or what is the point of DH getting back control. |
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Post by bluestripe on Jun 5, 2022 9:32:48 GMT 1
O'Brien is a talent and £10m does seem undervalued.. However if we can bring in two central midfield players by recruiting from lower leagues and Carlos coaching them, we'll have done OK.I sometimes think O'Brien drifts in and out of games and lacks a finish. Of course finding replacements is easier said.. If our policy is to continue to add to this squad from the lower leagues then we won’t be anywhere near good enough this next season. We had no choice under PH but to look at the the lower leagues, but now we need some serious invest or what is the point of DH getting back control. Errr. Because PH had run out of money. Do we want DH to pump any discretionary cash into Town in 2022 given what happened in recent seasons? And would he anyway? |
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Post by dezzly on Jun 5, 2022 9:33:20 GMT 1
O'Brien is a talent and £10m does seem undervalued.. However if we can bring in two central midfield players by recruiting from lower leagues and Carlos coaching them, we'll have done OK.I sometimes think O'Brien drifts in and out of games and lacks a finish. Of course finding replacements is easier said.. If our policy is to continue to add to this squad from the lower leagues then we won’t be anywhere near good enough this next season. We had no choice under PH but to look at the the lower leagues, but now we need some serious invest or what is the point of DH getting back control. I guess it depends what deans intentions are.He put money in before though not a huge amount in comparison with the rest of the division.If he intends to put in the same or possibly even less whilst transfer fees pay off the debt he’s owed then we will still be looking to be creative.Reading the piece in the examiner with Leigh bromby we are setup to be able to recruit well without spending masses of money and there are a lot more free agents of quality kicking about since Covid season so it’s not the end of the world.I think the wages we are willing to pay would be a sticking point when trying to sign any so called higher quality players rather than any fees when it came to these free agents. On a side note I think it would be a surprise to finish 3rd again having gone from where we were the previous seasons,I would still look at anywhere top 8 as serious progress as a club. Like bromby said the emphasis was always on defensive side and been harder to beat season just gone and to add more attacking quality this so hopefully can have another good year but play a bit more of an attacking progressive style. Long winded reply I know although I seem incapable of not doing so currently. |
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Post by Melc on Jun 5, 2022 9:54:27 GMT 1
If our policy is to continue to add to this squad from the lower leagues then we won’t be anywhere near good enough this next season. We had no choice under PH but to look at the the lower leagues, but now we need some serious invest or what is the point of DH getting back control. Errr. Because PH had run out of money. Do we want DH to pump any discretionary cash into Town in 2022 given what happened in recent seasons? And would he anyway? [br Stand still in this game and you end up going backwards, the squad needs a bit of Quality now to build on the work that has been achieved. Not asking the club to spend vast amounts, but enough to acquire some championship additions and a few premiership loans! |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 5, 2022 10:18:18 GMT 1
If our policy is to continue to add to this squad from the lower leagues then we won’t be anywhere near good enough this next season. We had no choice under PH but to look at the the lower leagues, but now we need some serious invest or what is the point of DH getting back control. Errr. Because PH had run out of money. Do we want DH to pump any discretionary cash into Town in 2022 given what happened in recent seasons? And would he anyway? It wasn't running out, it was all going to the previous owner 🙄 |
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jun 5, 2022 10:39:55 GMT 1
O'Brien is a talent and £10m does seem undervalued.. However if we can bring in two central midfield players by recruiting from lower leagues and Carlos coaching them, we'll have done OK.I sometimes think O'Brien drifts in and out of games and lacks a finish. Of course finding replacements is easier said.. If our policy is to continue to add to this squad from the lower leagues then we won’t be anywhere near good enough this next season. We had no choice under PH but to look at the the lower leagues, but now we need some serious invest or what is the point of DH getting back control. I'm glad you weren't consulted on last summers business. |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 5, 2022 12:49:08 GMT 1
If our policy is to continue to add to this squad from the lower leagues then we won’t be anywhere near good enough this next season. We had no choice under PH but to look at the the lower leagues, but now we need some serious invest or what is the point of DH getting back control. I'm glad you weren't consulted on last summers business. Last seasons transferred were a success and we did really well, this was down to getting the defence sorted and getting lucky with one for the future from none league stepping up much quicker than expected by anyone. Was this good planning and research or just pot luck after all of the mistakes we made in the previous few years. We all hope that our management team know what they are doing, but there is no guarantee that they will be successful again this time. If transfers were easy we would still be in the premier league and the speed twins would be worth a fortune and not heading into football obscurity. This is all what helps to make football so exciting. So lets give each other a break accept that we don't know anything and we all make our best estimates on what has happened previously and all come up with different conclusions. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 5, 2022 13:31:09 GMT 1
Was this good planning and research or just pot luck Probably a bit of both. You can't have guarantees in this sport, and luck will always be a factor. What you can do though is try to push the odds in your favour, by looking at how good the player is, their potential to improve, attitude, etc and set the player up for success once here. |
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Post by football on Jun 5, 2022 15:27:22 GMT 1
Was that another dodgy decision, only listening and he thinks it's a pen
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Post by football on Jun 5, 2022 15:38:31 GMT 1
Make that 2
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 5, 2022 15:55:26 GMT 1
I wonder if LOB would be open to a new contract? A gentleman’s agreement that he’d be free to leave for a set price but one substantially higher than his current release clause. release clause aside you've pretty much described the contract he signed most recently, the gentleman's agreement is that LOB kept his head down for us this last season, and if a premier league club meets the release clause this summer (upfront only) then he'll go. if they don't pay up front we have wriggle room on the fee. |
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Post by bluestripe on Jun 5, 2022 16:44:42 GMT 1
Errr. Because PH had run out of money. Do we want DH to pump any discretionary cash into Town in 2022 given what happened in recent seasons? And would he anyway? It wasn't running out, it was all going to the previous owner 🙄 I'm also in the PH fan club. But unfortunately he had less money than he needed to fund a Championship football club and repay DH the amounts that PH had agreed to. If that was not the case, PH would still be the owner. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2022 20:40:16 GMT 1
I'm glad you weren't consulted on last summers business. Last seasons transferred were a success and we did really well, this was down to getting the defence sorted and getting lucky with one for the future from none league stepping up much quicker than expected by anyone. Was this good planning and research or just pot luck after all of the mistakes we made in the previous few years. We all hope that our management team know what they are doing, but there is no guarantee that they will be successful again this time. If transfers were easy we would still be in the premier league and the speed twins would be worth a fortune and not heading into football obscurity. This is all what helps to make football so exciting. So lets give each other a break accept that we don't know anything and we all make our best estimates on what has happened previously and all come up with different conclusions. I don't think it is just transfers. The players need to be good enough but Carlos has formed a great unity within the squad and when you look at Thomas and Russell players under him and the coaching team improve, and pretty quickly. Getting the right characters and mix in the squad is important and we seem to have done that recently. Long may it continue. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 7, 2022 9:23:15 GMT 1
Phil Hay, reporter on Leeds, saying that Leeds don’t look like they’ll be back in again for O’Brien.
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