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Post by turbo2 on Mar 14, 2021 1:01:50 GMT 1
Chuffed for Ryan today. Taken a lot of grief the last couple of months. Made several great saves today, including one they really should have scored from.
A young kid from the town playing in a struggling side. Should get more help from his more experienced centre halfs (which he has in the last couple of games)
Keep it up kid. UTT
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Post by sociallydistant on Mar 14, 2021 1:20:14 GMT 1
Has has had far too much unhelpful stick of late but what a reactionary save today with his hands and feet. Two successive clean sheets. Chuffed to bits for him Well done Ryan Rob Schofield according to Quest.
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Post by sociallydistant on Mar 14, 2021 1:26:16 GMT 1
Glad you said unhelpful rather than unjustified (& TBH the "stick" was generally directed towards those who left the club in a position where a young keeper couldn't be rested when he faced an (inevitable?) drop in form rather than at Ryan). A return to levels of 2020 performances today. I try to choose my words caerphilly Can’t deny he was part of the Crumbly Lancashire performance at Preston. He’s done much Feta the last couple of games.
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Post by Hank Hill on Apr 20, 2021 16:09:11 GMT 1
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Post by Metch on Apr 20, 2021 16:22:44 GMT 1
Is that because he rarely comes out of it?
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Post by impact on Apr 20, 2021 16:31:35 GMT 1
He is a very good shot stopper, I don't think anyone would deny that.
It's the other parts of his game that need improvement.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 20, 2021 16:37:03 GMT 1
He's been a very busy boy!
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Post by joburgjon on Apr 20, 2021 16:49:46 GMT 1
He is a very good shot stopper, I don't think anyone would deny that. It's the other parts of his game that need improvement. Hopefully that'll come with experience and confidence. Being a good shot stopper is great foundations to build on
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Post by Hank Hill on Apr 20, 2021 17:14:32 GMT 1
He's been a very busy boy! I always feel with these kind of goalkeeping stats that it reflects the ability of the defenders in front of him. Good for him for making those saves, but it doesn't help that the defence is continuously putting him in the direct line of the firing squad.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 20, 2021 17:32:51 GMT 1
He's been a very busy boy! I always feel with these kind of goalkeeping stats that it reflects the ability of the defenders in front of him. Good for him for making those saves, but it doesn't help that the defence is continuously putting him in the direct line of the firing squad. We would have to see these saves before being able to judge but it often feels to me like lots of loose balls ping around our 6 yard box from his failure to come for set pieces which most other keepers would just be plucking out of the air or punching away
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Post by dalesterrier on Apr 20, 2021 17:49:51 GMT 1
Or we could just give him credit for making them and being top of this chart. Ahead of a keeper who is in the top 4 of the PL and behind a very good defence
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Post by durhamterrier on Apr 20, 2021 18:01:08 GMT 1
Fantastic that he’s saving them. Terrible that our defence has let 16 shots get at him from within the 6 yard box !
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 20, 2021 18:01:13 GMT 1
Bizarrely enough those type of stats unintentionally ignore the reasons for why he's had to save more shots & reminds me of the Abraham Wald story from WWII. When the US air force were working out how to armour plate the vulnerable parts of their bombers that came back to base, instead of him suggesting parts that were badly shot up, he told the bigwigs that it was where they weren't hit, by the engines, that needed the plating. He just stated that it more statistically probable that the planes not returning had suffered damage in the areas the return to base planes hadn't & had been lost as a consequence... medium.com/@penguinpress/an-excerpt-from-how-not-to-be-wrong-by-jordan-ellenberg-664e708cfc3d
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Apr 20, 2021 18:34:46 GMT 1
Let's try to find reasons to mitigate any credit or praise.
Young lad who is one of our own but some 'supporters' would rather find fault. I bet he's loving the encouragement
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Post by jakeg on Apr 20, 2021 18:47:53 GMT 1
Its an interesting conundrum for next season. I can see the arguments for an experienced keeper to come in but thats got risks if its not the right person.
Shuffled has done OK and better than that sometimes. He looks a competent championship keeper now and with more experience could be a very competent championship keeper.
Question is where does he get that experience? After playing most of the season in front of a resolving defensive door it would seem a step back to loan to league one and that doesn't guarantee its the right club or experience for him.
I think there is an argument to take the risk - develop him here as number one but with a highly experienced back up (same mould as when Bennett came in) to guide and push him to be better.
In the end he's very young for a keeper, in at the deep end behind many changing defensive personnel and formation and has done well. Mistakes yes, improvement needed yes. Worth sticking with? Quite possibly
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Post by mickydombat on Apr 20, 2021 19:08:51 GMT 1
He has done well and he probably knows he is improving game by game.Finished article no way but has a summer to strengthen and muscle up and hopefully stay humble.
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Post by York Terrier on Apr 20, 2021 19:17:50 GMT 1
He has done well and he probably knows he is improving game by game.Finished article no way but has a summer to strengthen and muscle up and hopefully stay humble. Good summary needs to command his box so defenders are not back on the line anticipating a problem instead of clearing the ball. Also against Forest one save was a palm away flap which he could have caught if his feet had not been planted on the line. I think very good prospect but lots of room for improvement and I bet Barnsley will have him down as one to get At tomorrow
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Apr 20, 2021 19:48:04 GMT 1
Decent stat and praise where it’s due.
Would be interesting to see the number of shots faced vs saved within the six yard box. All well and good being top, but is that is 20% of the shots faced where as another keeper has saved say 5/5 from inside the box.
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Post by andyeastleake on Apr 20, 2021 19:52:23 GMT 1
He has done well and he probably knows he is improving game by game.Finished article no way but has a summer to strengthen and muscle up and hopefully stay humble. If ever a player needed to spend a fair bit of time in the gym this Summer it's RS. Remember how Stead improved over the summer of 2003, looked a completely different player after the break, I think RS might be similar. No-one should doubt his shot-stopping ability (which TBF is not a BAD attribute for a goalkeeper at all). PS I hope the above indicates I rate you, but please RS, for the sake of my ageing heart, come off your line for crosses a bit more. Please.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Apr 20, 2021 19:58:55 GMT 1
I don't think we have the luxury of giving Schofield another season as number 1 to see if he can turn things around. His shot stopping is really, really good I grant you - hence the stats - but every other aspect of his game is really, really awful - decision making, crosses, kicking, communication, command of his area, the lot.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Apr 20, 2021 21:31:22 GMT 1
I don't think we have the luxury of giving Schofield another season as number 1 to see if he can turn things around. His shot stopping is really, really good I grant you - hence the stats - but every other aspect of his game is really, really awful - decision making, crosses, kicking, communication, command of his area, the lot. Really, really awful at all those things? Absolute nonsense, he’d be shipping five a game if that were true. His kicking has improved quite a bit (although still gives me kittens). He’s poor at the rest I grant you but that’ll come with experience and confidence and a load of gym work.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 20, 2021 21:43:00 GMT 1
I don't think we have the luxury of giving Schofield another season as number 1 to see if he can turn things around. His shot stopping is really, really good I grant you - hence the stats - but every other aspect of his game is really, really awful - decision making, crosses, kicking, communication, command of his area, the lot. Got to agree with this and it’s a shame because he’s a local lad etc. Whilst I understand people thinking work in the gym would help, I just don’t see that he has a keepers instinct to “ own” his area. His first step is always backwards onto his line and even more worrying is the fact that it’s obvious that our opponents are now aware of this.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Apr 20, 2021 22:25:48 GMT 1
Still conceded 62 (not all with RS in nets admittedly), only Wycomb have let in more and its not all down to the back 3 or 4.
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Post by billy143 on Apr 21, 2021 22:29:06 GMT 1
Fantastic that he’s saving them. Terrible that our defence has let 16 shots get at him from within the 6 yard box ! If he commanded the 6 yard box, like top keepers do, he wouldn't have to make all these saves.
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Post by ACW on Apr 21, 2021 22:33:43 GMT 1
Fantastic that he’s saving them. Terrible that our defence has let 16 shots get at him from within the 6 yard box ! If he commanded the 6 yard box, like top keepers do, he wouldn't have to make all these saves. It's hard to command your box when your are stood behind your own goal line.
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Post by 28901 on Apr 21, 2021 22:51:19 GMT 1
I don't think we have the luxury of giving Schofield another season as number 1 to see if he can turn things around. His shot stopping is really, really good I grant you - hence the stats - but every other aspect of his game is really, really awful - decision making, crosses, kicking, communication, command of his area, the lot. Really, really awful at all those things? Absolute nonsense, he’d be shipping five a game if that were true. His kicking has improved quite a bit (although still gives me kittens). He’s poor at the rest I grant you but that’ll come with experience and confidence and a load of gym work. Shouldn't be number one while he is doing that surely?
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Post by jakeg on Apr 21, 2021 22:52:31 GMT 1
If he commanded the 6 yard box, like top keepers do, he wouldn't have to make all these saves. It's hard to command your box when your are stood behind your own goal line. Microcosm tonight of the conundrum. Barnsley targeted him.at corners and he needs to learn quickly about coming through crowds and taking everyone out if needs be. But much else he does is good...stopped shots and good save near the end from Dikes. Still.think hes a young lad, probably in slightly before his time and being dealt a hard lesson with an ever changing back four. Get a settled back line like in the promotion season and he'll.be fine...Ward was not works.beater as a keeper but had a much more solid base to gain an understanding with
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 21, 2021 22:57:33 GMT 1
Really, really awful at all those things? Absolute nonsense, he’d be shipping five a game if that were true. His kicking has improved quite a bit (although still gives me kittens). He’s poor at the rest I grant you but that’ll come with experience and confidence and a load of gym work. Shouldn't be number one while he is doing that surely? That’s the point exactly. A Championship level keeper learns his trade out on loan before becoming a No1.
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Post by jakeg on Apr 21, 2021 23:03:29 GMT 1
Shouldn't be number one while he is doing that surely? That’s the point exactly. A Championship level keeper learns his trade out on loan before becoming a No1. Smithies didn't....I genuinely don't know what the answer is for Schofield. I think moving from.playing most of this season in the championship, which must and should teach you so many lessons, to being on loan at Ipswich or such like in League One might mean he never makes it. On the other side, can we build a season better than this one with him? I don't know....gut instint is to say stick with him
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 21, 2021 23:23:06 GMT 1
I just don't think we can afford to stick with him, I feel he has to go to League 1 & make his mistakes there - he'll have to command his area better there to survive.
At a guess, Sarr must have made at least 6 clearances off the line so far, when Ryan has been AWOL.
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