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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 19, 2021 10:19:20 GMT 1
UEFA has said all the clubs will be banned from domestic competitions. Good. Leeds wont get to play their biggest rivals???😁😁😁 |
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Post by artysid on Apr 19, 2021 10:20:12 GMT 1
I genuinely hope it happens - provided there's no route back for them and they're kicked out of all domestic competitions.
The Premier League Clubs would probably have to adjust to having less money but they've too much anyway.
I see it as a win win. Tv fans around the World get what they want, & the domestic leagues become more competitive and exciting.
A new hierarchy of top Clubs would probably emerge - Leeds, Villa, Everton, Newcastle maybe even the Wendies.
The only losers I see are season ticket holders of those six Clubs who don't want it to happen.
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Post by artysid on Apr 19, 2021 10:21:44 GMT 1
UEFA has said all the clubs will be banned from domestic competitions. Good. Leeds wont get to play their biggest rivals???😁😁😁 But they will probably become the biggest domestic Club in the Country  |
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Post by detox on Apr 19, 2021 10:25:00 GMT 1
Not under these plans. It's essentially going to be a Champions League alternative, midweek fixtures and they still play domestically That's what they want, but it can't see it happening. The leagues involved have already come out fighting - which suggests this isn't just paper talk - and it sounds an awful lot like they'd be kicked out of their domestic leagues. Good. The current rules state that clubs must field their strongest teams....(I know...) but there's no way these clubs will play anything other than their B team in the EPL ... |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 19, 2021 10:25:22 GMT 1
didn't want to be a part of it my guess
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 19, 2021 10:25:25 GMT 1
For anyone who hasn’t heard Gary Neville here he is. Brilliant stuff. Blocked! I think that speaks volumes about the type of people running sky and the other big interests. Wow |
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Post by btwoowah on Apr 19, 2021 10:26:03 GMT 1
A Premier League line-up for 2021-22 looking like this would be of more interest to me than a European Super League: Leicester West Ham Everton Leeds A Villa Wolves C Palace Southampton Newcastle Brighton Burnley Fulham West Brom Sheff Utd Norwich Watford Brentford Swansea Bournemouth Barnsley Agreed. And if we can use the opportunity to push through rules protecting competition and safeguarding a reasonably level playing field in perpetuity amongst the clubs left behind, and make sure the greedy six can never ever return, we might just end up with a kind of ‘super championship’ where any team can beat any other on any given day, and fans of the other 86 plus clubs can have hope of one day, given a fair wind and a clever, sustainable strategy over a number of years, winning some form of silverware..... |
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Post by detox on Apr 19, 2021 10:32:40 GMT 1
let them go I say.. The only reason the football organisations are kicking up a fuss is nothing to do with fans, but to do with lost revenues which pay their fat wages and expenses bills..that's all. Let them bugger off and let us reclaim the beautiful game without the £300k pw wages and £100m transfer fees and expensive SC prices etc..
We can go back to 4 divisions (league one, two..etc) and have a more even playing field. The PL is so lop sided anyway with the usual clubs top half and the usual clubs bottom half... From what I saw from our PL experience some of these 'super stars' aren't that brilliant anyway..in fact lots of these games are boring as shite..
The EFL need to get to work on this and set out some ideas, get some funding for life after..and take is forward as a positive for football. The game has been damaged by so much cash sloshing around and hasn't really brought that many better players has it... I'd look forward to life without these 6 clubs but I would probably watch them on TV playing their midweek games..for a while anyway until I got bored watching the same games..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 10:35:19 GMT 1
didn't want to be a part of it my guess Chris Powell as interim manager?! (I'm not kidding) |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 19, 2021 10:36:06 GMT 1
Mouriniho sacked.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 19, 2021 10:36:55 GMT 1
didn't want to be a part of it my guess Chris Powell as interim manager?! (I'm not kidding) |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 19, 2021 10:42:03 GMT 1
Leeds wont get to play their biggest rivals???😁😁😁 But they will probably become the biggest domestic Club in the Country Football for me as a town fan has always been about promotion and a cup run. I think it's the same for millions. The top 6 have been pretty much the same for a long time now and their owners aspirations and therefore the fans as well, have been very different for a long time. I bet leicester fans are more expectant than they have ever been. If the big 6 want to go then so be it, I'm sure another top 6 will emerge but for a few years at least the competition and the possibilities will rise to some tune for everyone else? Fighting the money is a tough one. You cant have a super league without Bayern and PSG anyway.. Truth is the 'big' clubs are running on huge debt and a short injection of very, very silly money might be their way out before returning and presumably starting all over again paying players stupid wages? |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 19, 2021 10:42:59 GMT 1
Liked the way a namesake of our own LOB on national radio put it: "He was handed some sandwiches wrapped in a roadmap" James O'Brien, got an ex-ManUtd director on right now - who is equally disgusted by this plan |
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Post by alexdire on Apr 19, 2021 10:46:17 GMT 1
didn't want to be a part of it my guess Chris Powell as interim manager?! (I'm not kidding) They must be waiting to see how all this plays out with the super league etc. |
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Post by Hank Hill on Apr 19, 2021 10:47:19 GMT 1
I can only hope this leads to a 50+1 fan control regulation like in German football. Fans need to take back control of their clubs.
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 19, 2021 10:49:15 GMT 1
My main thought here is Kerry Packer. Mine too but I don’t think Man Utd will be signing Sir Geoffrey. I don't think Sir Geoff played in the Packer series, but I could be wrong. |
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Post by saintlyterrier on Apr 19, 2021 10:57:13 GMT 1
I wonder whether Jose argued the despicable Levy about the Super League because he almost certainly won't have been consulted.
What I would really like is for the players in those big clubs to.speak out. Unfortunately, they're probably all capitalist bastards, too.
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Post by tobbyg on Apr 19, 2021 11:01:39 GMT 1
Sounds like a great idea to get rid of all the plastic fans. Globally they dwarf the real fans so I’ve got no doubt it would work if they have the bottle to go through with it. The hypocrisy of all the current bodies is laughable though they’re all just as bad and are only pissed of that they’re not a part of it. Surely its the opposite? A fan in China is more interested in watching Man U play Barca every other week, compared to watching Man U v Brighton. I meant to get rid of them out of our football if the (supposed) big 6 leave. The plastics will love it I agree but I won’t have any interest in it. |
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Post by impact on Apr 19, 2021 11:03:05 GMT 1
Chris Powell as interim manager?! (I'm not kidding) That's definitely a parody account. The "power" of twitter. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 11:04:24 GMT 1
That's what they want, but it can't see it happening. The leagues involved have already come out fighting - which suggests this isn't just paper talk - and it sounds an awful lot like they'd be kicked out of their domestic leagues. Good. The current rules state that clubs must field their strongest teams....(I know...) but there's no way these clubs will play anything other than their B team in the EPL ... No they don't. Thats why they introduced 'named squads' in the EPL - you can play ANYONE from that squad (plus as many youngsters as you want) in any game. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 11:09:55 GMT 1
Blocked! I think that speaks volumes about the type of people running sky and the other big interests. Sky have been really pushing the message. They are shitting it! If the rights to the Super League are snapped up by Amazon, their business model is in serious trouble. They are desperate for the Premier League to remain an elite competition. But they want you to watch the rant on their website, not on Google's! The auction for 2022 to 2025 is about to take place. BT drove the price up trying to challenge Sky but seems to have settled for being 'viable second place' - as such, Sky could very easily get hold of the major parts of EPL coverage at a comparative knock down price this time round, they'd be happy with that. It'll be the CLUBS whose business models will be in serious trouble. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 11:12:30 GMT 1
Sky have been really pushing the message. They are shitting it! If the rights to the Super League are snapped up by Amazon, their business model is in serious trouble. They are desperate for the Premier League to remain an elite competition. But they want you to watch the rant on their website, not on Google's! The auction for 2022 to 2025 is about to take place. BT drove the price up trying to challenge Sky but seems to have settled for being 'viable second place' - as such, Sky could very easily get hold of the major parts of EPL coverage at a comparative knock down price this time round, they'd be happy with that. It'll be the CLUBS whose business models will be in serious trouble. I just meant if there is a breakaway, how many people will be paying Sky £45 a month to watch the top-of-the-table clash between Wolves and Burnley when they could be watching Man Utd v. Real Madrid as part of their Amazon Prime package? |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 19, 2021 11:15:29 GMT 1
I can only hope this leads to a 50+1 fan control regulation like in German football. Fans need to take back control of their clubs. The principle is fine. But I think it's fair to say that it works out just a bit too fine for Bayern Munich, such that they have the league title on a subscription basis. Controversial, I know, but there are clubs that get around the 50+1 rule (For example, Leipzig have only 17 members who are closely linked to Red Bull), I didn't like it at first, but you talk to some people in Leipzig and they'll say, "so what, if it stops Bayern winning the title for a 9th time, bring it on!). Dortmund (the only listed club in Germany as far as I know, are still owned 20% by various big corporations), then there's Wolfsburg, Leverkusen also supported by industry, plus the beady-eyed billionaire who runs SAP and thus Hoffenheim. Even Schalke have Gazprom powdering their arses. Yes, I know, it's a nice idea "fan ownership", but in this world of venture capitalism and greed, and financial vampires. It just seems a natural course unfortunately. Also, to Leipzig's credit, they put enormous amounts of money into developing their youth system, and at the end of the day, their record signing is probably as much as Town's (around 20 million). Inflationary as compared to a few decades ago, but nothing like the sums the "Big 6", Bayern and the Spanish giants can and do offer for players. It's sad, I know. But what are you gonna do? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 19, 2021 11:18:53 GMT 1
Spurs ... the one time they got anywhere near their newly found pumped up status they sacked their boss a few months later and replaced him with Jose Dinosaurho on 12 million a year. They'll be happy joining a league where you don't have to win any matches. Bunch of fucking arseholes
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 11:20:24 GMT 1
The auction for 2022 to 2025 is about to take place. BT drove the price up trying to challenge Sky but seems to have settled for being 'viable second place' - as such, Sky could very easily get hold of the major parts of EPL coverage at a comparative knock down price this time round, they'd be happy with that. It'll be the CLUBS whose business models will be in serious trouble. I just meant if there is a breakaway, how many people will be paying Sky £45 a month to watch the top-of-the-table clash between Wolves and Burnley when they could be watching Man Utd v. Real Madrid as part of their Amazon Prime package? Less people, but Sky will have paid less, so they won't care so much. Its not a coincidence that they've gone massive on film and drama spend over the last couple of years. The people that suffer will be the clubs...because Traore and Neves will still get paid what they're paid today. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 11:23:12 GMT 1
I can only hope this leads to a 50+1 fan control regulation like in German football. Fans need to take back control of their clubs. The principle is fine. But I think it's fair to say that it works out just a bit too fine for Bayern Munich, such that they have the league title on a subscription basis. Controversial, I know, but there are clubs that get around the 50+1 rule (For example, Leipzig have only 17 members who are closely linked to Red Bull), I didn't like it at first, but you talk to some people in Leipzig and they'll say, "so what, if it stops Bayern winning the title for a 9th time, bring it on!). Dortmund (the only listed club in Germany as far as I know, are still owned 20% by various big corporations), then there's Wolfsburg, Leverkusen also supported by industry, plus the beady-eyed billionaire who runs SAP and thus Hoffenheim. Even Schalke have Gazprom powdering their arses. Yes, I know, it's a nice idea "fan ownership", but in this world of venture capitalism and greed, and financial vampires. It just seems a natural course unfortunately. Also, to Leipzig's credit, they put enormous amounts of money into developing their youth system, and at the end of the day, their record signing is probably as much as Town's (around 20 million). Inflationary as compared to a few decades ago, but nothing like the sums the "Big 6", Bayern and the Spanish giants can and do offer for players. It's sad, I know. But what are you gonna do? The 2019 Labour manifesto had an idea... · Legislate to give supporters trusts the power to appoint and remove at least two members of a club’s board of directors; · Legislate to enable supporters trusts to purchase shares when clubs change hands; · Review all aspects of football governance, including fan participation; · Ensure that the Premier League invests 5 per cent of income from television rights into grassroots football; · Enforce anti-bot legislation to crackdown on ticket-tout websites selling tickets at vastly inflated prices, and implement the recommendations of the Waterson Review; · Ban zero-hours contracts and guarantee a Living Wage of at least £10 per hour for all staff, including those working at football stadia on match days; · Add women’s sporting events including the Women’s Football World up, to the list of key sporting events to be broadcast free-to-air; · Improve access provision for disabled sports fans by ensuring that rapid improvements are made and by prioritising action to make clubs comply with obligations under the 2010 Equality Act. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 19, 2021 11:26:21 GMT 1
Give it 5 years & the fixtures will be something like Galacticos Madrid v Manchester Red Devils.
They can fuck off for me. We might actually be able to get our football back.
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Post by rooo on Apr 19, 2021 11:29:27 GMT 1
Is this any different from the Premier League being formed in the 90s? This is the reason why I have never had Sky Sports or watched any PL games (apart from Town games)or any CL games in nearly 30 years. Fans should voted with their subscriptions! I’m a subscriber but Sky don’t have the CL, this is with BT Sport. There has been no mention of broadcasting rights for this “competition “ but you can bet that this may well be the time that the likes of Amazon etc come to the fore to totally transform TV football. Now we know why these platforms have been trialling showing games. For those who cannot grasp the massive global potential audience for this, before the pandemic, I travelled to India with work twice a year - they all want to watch Man Utd and Liverpool. Offices have team posters on the walls, it’s absolutely massive over there. When you add on to this the Far East etc - you are talking about millions of people. Not the football that we want of course, but as DTS might say, it would keep our domestic game honest and after a few years we’d have more genuine competition at the top of the Premier League. I picked on Sky because they were the original ones back in the 90s (I do not have BT Sport, Amazon Prime or any other streaming service either) |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Apr 19, 2021 11:30:57 GMT 1
Give it 5 years & the fixtures will be something like Galacticos Madrid v Manchester Red Devils. They can fuck off for me. We might actually be able to get our football back. Can't see that, the naming rights are owned by billionaires. More like your Manchester Red Devils will be appearing in the non leagues of English football and trying to work their way up... Already has happened with Manchester United, FCUM. |
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