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Post by Mecha Corte on May 7, 2021 7:52:11 GMT 1
[/quote]You obviously did not go to Wolves away on 25 November 2018 one of Town's finest performances in the PL where we looked a very decent side added to which DW did not 'jump ship' as you say. He informed the club that he wanted to leave at the end of that season but the club decided that it was best for him to leave when he did... enter Martin from Wakefield. FWIW in over 50 years supporting this club DW gave me and indeed many others of my age some of our most glorious moments ever. Blaming him for our present predicament is frankly shameful..... [/quote]
I went, remember it well , Sunday live on Sky, but despite drawing with West Ham and beating Fulham in the previous games the away turn out was poor ( the numbers attending, those of us that were present gave great backing and were rewarded with a win and a PL quality display by the team) so maybe a large section of our fan base had already given up ?
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Post by westislandterrier on May 7, 2021 13:42:52 GMT 1
Hero 24 / 7 / 365 ! When I started supporting Town in 1979/80 we were in Division 4. A bit of yo-yo ing to / from Div 2/3 , close but no cigar in 2000. To get to the premiership was beyond my wildest dreams and we even got a second season. I for one apprieciate what David Wagner did for Huddersfield Town.
Dean Hoyle a hero also for appointing the man who got HTAFC to the promised land (in my humble opinion).
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 7, 2021 13:53:07 GMT 1
You obviously did not go to Wolves away on 25 November 2018 one of Town's finest performances in the PL where we looked a very decent side added to which DW did not 'jump ship' as you say. He informed the club that he wanted to leave at the end of that season but the club decided that it was best for him to leave when he did... enter Martin from Wakefield. FWIW in over 50 years supporting this club DW gave me and indeed many others of my age some of our most glorious moments ever. Blaming him for our present predicament is frankly shameful..... [/quote] I went, remember it well , Sunday live on Sky, but despite drawing with West Ham and beating Fulham in the previous games the away turn out was poor ( the numbers attending, those of us that were present gave great backing and were rewarded with a win and a PL quality display by the team) so maybe a large section of our fan base had already given up ?[/quote] Which would be weird given we were 14th in the Premier league after that game (I think )
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on May 7, 2021 13:58:00 GMT 1
Hero, he made me like Germans.
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Post by blueandwhitescarf on May 7, 2021 15:06:53 GMT 1
Why the hell does everything and everyone have to be viewed through a narrow gauge as a hero or villan?
For what it's worth Wagner for me will always be a hero who took an unlikely team and club on a great journey. The fact that he couldn't perpetuate this fairytale doesn't detract from what he achieved in my eyes. Lets not forget that we were his first proper club.
Our fall began when his, the chairman's (plus serious illness), the recruitment team and the squad's inexperience started to show. The club have however managed to perpetuate this decline by consistently adding less and less experience to both the on-field and off-field operations. Without the steep decline Wagner would still be rightly viewed as a hero, he achieved far more than could have been expected of him when he arrived.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 7, 2021 15:45:59 GMT 1
Hero, he made me like Germans. Post of the week. Brilliant.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on May 7, 2021 19:40:41 GMT 1
Long post alert but difficult to condense all the points Lots of fingers of blame have been pointed at lots of people in the club since our our demise from the Premier League but David Wagner appears to have escaped almost scot-free. Dean Hoyle gave David Wagner his first big break – managing a team in the Championship. I will never forget Dean Hoyle introducing our new manager at the Millbridge Club. It was an inspirational evening and I went home believing that David Wagner was the real deal. He was enthusiastic, down to earth and brought a vision based on fitness, cohesion and Terrier Spirit. In no time at all you could see that it was working. He introduced double training sessions; sessions timed to match kick-off times and even had the players reporting in on a Sunday to reflect on the previous day’s game. He also initially brought in players who epitomised the Terrier Spirit – players who gave their all for the team and the shirt – Schindler, Hefele, Lowe, Kachunga, Quaner – players who when selected; gave everything they’d got. When questioned at the Millbridge Club about ‘big’ clubs in the league he replied ‘We don’t worry about the opposition, let them worry about us’. #Terrier Spirit and #No Limits were the order of the day. The Wagner Revolution had begun and it was a joy to behold. In his first full season we were promoted. It was ahead of the plan and it was incredible. We didn’t score many and we didn’t win games by big margins but it was effective and the team mentality was both positive and strong. Following the unexpected promotion things began to change. We started spending money that was previously unheard of for Huddersfield Town, a net total of £40M committed on fees alone before we’d even kicked a Premier League football including: Laurent Depoitre (£3.5M) Aaron Mooy (£10M Inc. add-ons) Scott Malone £3.3M) Zanka (£3.5M) Mounie (£13m Inc. add-ons) - He was on loan that first season but came with a ‘done deal’ agreement for us to buy for the following season. Ince (£10.5M Inc. add-ons) We got off to a good start but David Wagner then abandoned his #No Limits approach and in most games we set up not to lose – park the bus and get a goal on the break if possible. It got ever tougher to watch and if we conceded, we knew we were almost bound to lose. We played too defensively, we didn't take enough risks, we didn't create many chances, and the aim was mainly to concede as few goals as possible. Joe Lolley was unfortunate with injuries and we never got to see his full potential on a regular basis. He was very keen to play as a no 10 but David Wagner was reluctant to play him there. Instead, he told Dean Hoyle that he badly wanted Alex Pritchard in that role so in Jan 2018 we bought him for a staggering £11M. In turn we effectively gave Joe Lolley away to Forest for a rumoured £1M but also looked after Michael Hefele in the same deal by ensuring that he also got a 3-year deal with Forest. The reality is that we’d have got a lot more out of Lolley than Pritchard if we’d kept him instead of buying Pritchard and, with wages included, we lost somewhere in the region of £15M. Entirely down to David Wagner. David Wagner had seen his stock rise during the promotion season and both he and Dean were aware that some other clubs were showing increasing interest. David Wagner asked for and received large wage rises on three or four separate occasions from when he started. DH knew he had someone special and was keen to please DW by backing him with the players he wanted and the ever larger salary he was demanding. Against the odds we survived that first season in the Premier league and we all looked forward to strengthening the team over the summer. We completed the deal on Mounie We bought Kongolo on a permanent deal for £18M M’Benza was DW’s number one new target of the summer. DH backed him by spending £11.25M on him. (DW told the club's website: "Isaac is a very exciting player and this is a great deal for Huddersfield Town for a player with such ability and potential. You do not play for Belgium at U21 level unless you have some outstanding attributes). We were about to buy Adam Traore and had both the fee (£20M) and wages agreed. At the eleventh hour Traore sustained an injury that was likely to see him out for up to six weeks. DW told DH that he couldn’t wait six weeks and wanted a speedy winger immediately. DW backed him yet again and from the shortlist, DW selected Diakhaby at a cost of £9m DW commented, "He is a very hungry young footballer with a strong desire to succeed in England. Obviously he is still learning and improving at 22 years old, but he already has many of the qualities that we look for in our attacking players. He's a direct player who is comfortable with the ball at his feet and with genuine pace, which suits our style perfectly." Bizarrely that ‘style’ changed shortly after signing both M’Benza and Diakhaby and neither of them went on to be regular starters. By late autumn in that second season things were not going well. We were very defensive and it was getting ever harder to watch. bottom of the league and it seemed that some players were already looking to their agents to find them their next honey pot. The #No Limits and ~Terrier Spirit football had all but vanished. You have to question what impact some of our most expensive and highly paid players had on the rest of the squad who encountered their inflated egos and poor attitudes on a daily basis. These very same expensive and highly paid players that had been chosen by DW who had the final say on all player purchases. Around the same time, news was coming out that DH was critically ill and had been in hospital for some weeks. With hindsight, it appears that nobody was able to step up and fill the huge void caused by his absence. DW had run out of ideas and knew the ship was sinking. At a time when DH was desperately struggling with his health, DW sent him a message via a third party that he wanted out by the end of the season at latest. The same DH who had given him his first big opportunity, had paid him handsomely and had backed him in spending huge amounts of money on fees and wages of players that DW had asked for. When the shit was hitting the fan, it does seem that DW put himself first. I can only imagine what impact all this must have had on DH. He was critically ill in hospital, his football team was relegation bound and DW was jumping ship leaving behind massively expensive contracted players who had no fight in them and no loyalty to the club. The attitude of some of those players continued to be a major problem after DW left as they saw their contracts out whilst enjoying their massive salaries. Remember, DW had the last say on all of them coming into the club. When he left, he left a very expensive burden behind. In summaryHero – No doubts whatsoever. Gaining promotion was an incredible achievement. Villain – For me he has to take a large amount of the blame for the dream turning sour You obviously did not go to Wolves away on 25 November 2018 one of Town's finest performances in the PL where we looked a very decent side added to which DW did not 'jump ship' as you say. He informed the club that he wanted to leave at the end of that season but the club decided that it was best for him to leave when he did... enter Martin from Wakefield. FWIW in over 50 years supporting this club DW gave me and indeed many others of my age some of our most glorious moments ever. Blaming him for our present predicament is frankly shameful..... 'Obviously'? I went to almost every game home and away as I have done for some years but not sure what point you are making. I agree with you on the glorious moments. Sheff Weds., Wembley, Man City and Chelsea memories will live on with me whatever. I suggested that he wasn't blameless for the poor second season and stand by it. Some of the expensive players that he signed continued to drain us long after he left and are still here. Not for much longer thank God
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on May 7, 2021 23:08:48 GMT 1
Villain for what ? Being given shit players in the summer ? Any manager or coach in the history of football would fail to keep Town in the prem that second season
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Post by rothwellterrier on May 8, 2021 8:25:48 GMT 1
You obviously did not go to Wolves away on 25 November 2018 one of Town's finest performances in the PL where we looked a very decent side added to which DW did not 'jump ship' as you say. He informed the club that he wanted to leave at the end of that season but the club decided that it was best for him to leave when he did... enter Martin from Wakefield. FWIW in over 50 years supporting this club DW gave me and indeed many others of my age some of our most glorious moments ever. Blaming him for our present predicament is frankly shameful..... 'Obviously'? I went to almost every game home and away as I have done for some years but not sure what point you are making. I agree with you on the glorious moments. Sheff Weds., Wembley, Man City and Chelsea memories will live on with me whatever. I suggested that he wasn't blameless for the poor second season and stand by it. Some of the expensive players that he signed continued to drain us long after he left and are still here. Not for much longer thank GodUnfortunately when you make the jump from the championship to the premier league players salaries are increased, by a lot. This is covered while you are in there by the TV income which is increased from championship levels by a lot. The problem comes when you are relegated back down to the championship, but as contracts need honouring the game has something in place called “parachute payments”, they are supposed to break that fall. If you decide to use that extra income for something else, don’t expect sympathy and try to say the contracts you agreed previously are the issue.
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Post by turbo2 on May 8, 2021 8:46:41 GMT 1
You obviously did not go to Wolves away on 25 November 2018 one of Town's finest performances in the PL where we looked a very decent side added to which DW did not 'jump ship' as you say. He informed the club that he wanted to leave at the end of that season but the club decided that it was best for him to leave when he did... enter Martin from Wakefield. FWIW in over 50 years supporting this club DW gave me and indeed many others of my age some of our most glorious moments ever. Blaming him for our present predicament is frankly shameful..... I went, remember it well , Sunday live on Sky, but despite drawing with West Ham and beating Fulham in the previous games the away turn out was poor ( the numbers attending, those of us that were present gave great backing and were rewarded with a win and a PL quality display by the team) so maybe a large section of our fan base had already given up ?[/quote] Which would be weird given we were 14th in the Premier league after that game (I think ) [/quote] That wolves game was the only game I have missed through choice since 2016. Ffs. What a mistake. The reason was Sky. I was pissed off at having to play at 4pm on a Sunday in Wolverhampton. So I spoke with my feet.
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 8, 2021 9:55:37 GMT 1
Hero
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Post by ACW on May 8, 2021 21:30:18 GMT 1
Thou shalt not criticise Wagner. Some pretty shit responses to a well constructed opening post for me He is indeed a hero and a villain, and always will be. Defend. Defend. DEFEND,DEFEND,DEFEND. It was shite to watch once he'd lost the magic. He is a hero. A hero with faults, who made mistakes like everyone does, but overall a hero. Anyone who puts 'Wagner' and 'villain' in the same sentence really, really needs to give their head a shake. Never heard such utter shite in my life.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on May 8, 2021 21:45:51 GMT 1
Thou shalt not criticise Wagner. Some pretty shit responses to a well constructed opening post for me He is indeed a hero and a villain, and always will be. Defend. Defend. DEFEND,DEFEND,DEFEND. It was shite to watch once he'd lost the magic. He is a hero. A hero with faults, who made mistakes like everyone does, but overall a hero. Anyone who puts 'Wagner' and 'villain' in the same sentence really, really needs to give their head a shake. Never heard such utter shite in my life. Apparently as a young boy David Wagner used to like going to the pantomime so he could boo the villain
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Post by El Mel on May 9, 2021 6:55:32 GMT 1
Thou shalt not criticise Wagner. Some pretty shit responses to a well constructed opening post for me He is indeed a hero and a villain, and always will be. Defend. Defend. DEFEND,DEFEND,DEFEND. It was shite to watch once he'd lost the magic. He is a hero. A hero with faults, who made mistakes like everyone does, but overall a hero. Anyone who puts 'Wagner' and 'villain' in the same sentence really, really needs to give their head a shake. Never heard such utter shite in my life. I've shaken my head and nothing has changed. In terms of playing style and dressing room confidence, he drove the club off a cliff, then jumped off just before it went over the edge. We were spiralling to where we are now when he was the head coach. Everything he had built to get us to where we did, he took away, including himself.
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Post by positive plus + pompous on May 9, 2021 7:08:10 GMT 1
You obviously did not go to Wolves away on 25 November 2018 one of Town's finest performances in the PL where we looked a very decent side added to which DW did not 'jump ship' as you say. He informed the club that he wanted to leave at the end of that season but the club decided that it was best for him to leave when he did... enter Martin from Wakefield. FWIW in over 50 years supporting this club DW gave me and indeed many others of my age some of our most glorious moments ever. Blaming him for our present predicament is frankly shameful..... 'Obviously'? I went to almost every game home and away as I have done for some years but not sure what point you are making. I agree with you on the glorious moments. Sheff Weds., Wembley, Man City and Chelsea memories will live on with me whatever. I suggested that he wasn't blameless for the poor second season and stand by it. Some of the expensive players that he signed continued to drain us long after he left and are still here. Not for much longer thank God He didn't scout them or sign them, the club did.
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Post by positive plus + pompous on May 9, 2021 7:13:20 GMT 1
Villain for what ? Being given shit players in the summer ? Any manager or coach in the history of football would fail to keep Town in the prem that second season Yes a villain for keeping a rank awful squad in the Premier league then finally getting overwhelmed by far superior opposition in the 2nd season. The likes of schindler, hogg and Mooy were so burnt out after putting in absolutely everything into every game in that first season. Schindler in particular was exhausted after every game in that first season.
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Post by positive plus + pompous on May 9, 2021 7:14:48 GMT 1
He is a hero. A hero with faults, who made mistakes like everyone does, but overall a hero. Anyone who puts 'Wagner' and 'villain' in the same sentence really, really needs to give their head a shake. Never heard such utter shite in my life. I've shaken my head and nothing has changed. In terms of playing style and dressing room confidence, he drove the club off a cliff, then jumped off just before it went over the edge. We were spiralling to where we are now when he was the head coach. Everything he had built to get us to where we did, he took away, including himself. You talk absolute bollocks.
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Post by morleyterrier on May 9, 2021 7:17:34 GMT 1
He is a hero. A hero with faults, who made mistakes like everyone does, but overall a hero. Anyone who puts 'Wagner' and 'villain' in the same sentence really, really needs to give their head a shake. Never heard such utter shite in my life. I've shaken my head and nothing has changed. In terms of playing style and dressing room confidence, he drove the club off a cliff, then jumped off just before it went over the edge. We were spiralling to where we are now when he was the head coach. Everything he had built to get us to where we did, he took away, including himself. An interesting point, Chris Wilder has had similar views levelled at him. It is all well and good when things are going well and you are on the up and successful. Often though in life, you find more out about yourself and others in the face of adversity. How do you react?, how do others around you react?. Some roll their sleeves up and form a battle plan to get back on track. Others wilt and hide, or run...... Not a criticism, an observation and both Wagner and Wilder rightly enjoyed all the (well deserved) hype that surrounded them when on the up. When it started to go wrong though, they cut and run.
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Post by El Mel on May 9, 2021 8:20:16 GMT 1
I've shaken my head and nothing has changed. In terms of playing style and dressing room confidence, he drove the club off a cliff, then jumped off just before it went over the edge. We were spiralling to where we are now when he was the head coach. Everything he had built to get us to where we did, he took away, including himself. You talk absolute bollocks. Why is it bollocks? The guy did amazing things, but when he lost his way and saw the impending carnage, he walked away, despite the fact that the owner has asked him to stay on post relegation. He bottled it.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 9, 2021 11:13:23 GMT 1
Villain for what ? Being given shit players in the summer ? Any manager or coach in the history of football would fail to keep Town in the prem that second season Yes a villain for keeping a rank awful squad in the Premier league then finally getting overwhelmed by far superior opposition in the 2nd season. The likes of schindler, hogg and Mooy were so burnt out after putting in absolutely everything into every game in that first season. Schindler in particular was exhausted after every game in that first season. Very true. One of my abiding memories from that 1st season was as soon as the final whistle blew, you would see every player drop to the ground in pure exhaustion. It was effort and commitment beyond belief.
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Post by ACW on May 9, 2021 12:29:40 GMT 1
He is a hero. A hero with faults, who made mistakes like everyone does, but overall a hero. Anyone who puts 'Wagner' and 'villain' in the same sentence really, really needs to give their head a shake. Never heard such utter shite in my life. I've shaken my head and nothing has changed. In terms of playing style and dressing room confidence, he drove the club off a cliff, then jumped off just before it went over the edge. We were spiralling to where we are now when he was the head coach. Everything he had built to get us to where we did, he took away, including himself. Wagner made mistakes, like we all do, but to label him a villain? Really? The Oystons were real villains. David Wagner is not even close. For me, it's a case of evaluating everything he did for us. Over the piece, he did far, far more good than bad. You disagree - fair enough - but if you see Wagner as a villain then I suspect you will never be satisfied with what goes on at our club. Wagner gave me some of the best memories I will ever have following Town. And plenty of them. Always a hero.
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Post by Mastercracker on May 9, 2021 12:49:31 GMT 1
I've shaken my head and nothing has changed. In terms of playing style and dressing room confidence, he drove the club off a cliff, then jumped off just before it went over the edge. We were spiralling to where we are now when he was the head coach. Everything he had built to get us to where we did, he took away, including himself. Wagner made mistakes, like we all do, but to label him a villain? Really? The Oystons were real villains. David Wagner is not even close. For me, it's a case of evaluating everything he did for us. Over the piece, he did far, far more good than bad. You disagree - fair enough - but if you see Wagner as a villain then I suspect you will never be satisfied with what goes on at our club. Wagner gave me some of the best memories I will ever have following Town. And plenty of them. Always a hero. You’re talking to someone who didn’t even show up for the play off home game cos “we’ve blown it”. It’s a waste of time.
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Post by El Mel on May 9, 2021 13:23:21 GMT 1
Wagner made mistakes, like we all do, but to label him a villain? Really? The Oystons were real villains. David Wagner is not even close. For me, it's a case of evaluating everything he did for us. Over the piece, he did far, far more good than bad. You disagree - fair enough - but if you see Wagner as a villain then I suspect you will never be satisfied with what goes on at our club. Wagner gave me some of the best memories I will ever have following Town. And plenty of them. Always a hero. You’re talking to someone who didn’t even show up for the play off home game cos “we’ve blown it”. It’s a waste of time. I've said repeatedly that Wagner is a hero AND a villain, and consistently praised him for his achievements, but I've also consistently highlighted where he would, and did fall short. Maybe that's the bit that pisses you off, I don't know? He walked away from the bloke who gave him the platform to start what could have been a fantastic career as a football manager, when that bloke was critically ill. For that alone, I'll question his morals. The inability for some of you to see the negative aspects of Wagner, because he helped get the club to the PL, I find staggering. Anyway, I wish him all the best going forward. He's done nothing to enhance his CV at Schalke, but he was a brilliant manager for us when we were on the up. When the going gets tough, as they say......
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Post by ACW on May 9, 2021 13:29:23 GMT 1
You’re talking to someone who didn’t even show up for the play off home game cos “we’ve blown it”. It’s a waste of time. I've said repeatedly that Wagner is a hero AND a villain, and consistently praised him for his achievements, but I've also consistently highlighted where he would, and did fall short. Maybe that's the bit that pisses you off, I don't know? He walked away from the bloke who gave him the platform to start what could have been a fantastic career as a football manager, when that bloke was critically ill. For that alone, I'll question his morals. The inability for some of you to see the negative aspects of Wagner, because he helped get the club to the PL, I find staggering. Anyway, I wish him all the best going forward. He's done nothing to enhance his CV at Schalke, but he was a brilliant manager for us when we were on the up. When the going gets tough, as they say...... There's a BIG difference between acknowledging Wagner's faults and labelling him as a "villain".
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Post by dugnet on May 9, 2021 13:35:10 GMT 1
I have read, and contributed to, some pretty banal debates on here but this has to be up there with the most moribund of them.
I don't see the value and the squabbling between some people is bordering on pitiful.
Whatever your opinion the debate has absolutely no influence on our future.
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Post by positive plus + pompous on May 9, 2021 13:37:30 GMT 1
You talk absolute bollocks. Why is it bollocks? The guy did amazing things, but when he lost his way and saw the impending carnage, he walked away, despite the fact that the owner has asked him to stay on post relegation. He bottled it. Bottled it is bollocks. He knew he could take the club no further and had offered to resign before but stayed on because Hoyle asked him to. The manager like the players was burnt out. 100% hero.
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Post by El Mel on May 9, 2021 13:40:06 GMT 1
I've said repeatedly that Wagner is a hero AND a villain, and consistently praised him for his achievements, but I've also consistently highlighted where he would, and did fall short. Maybe that's the bit that pisses you off, I don't know? He walked away from the bloke who gave him the platform to start what could have been a fantastic career as a football manager, when that bloke was critically ill. For that alone, I'll question his morals. The inability for some of you to see the negative aspects of Wagner, because he helped get the club to the PL, I find staggering. Anyway, I wish him all the best going forward. He's done nothing to enhance his CV at Schalke, but he was a brilliant manager for us when we were on the up. When the going gets tough, as they say...... There's a BIG difference between acknowledging Wagner's faults and labelling him as a "villain". You have read the thread title? Still, he took the pay rises, he took the adulation, he took the plaudits, then he took off.
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Post by positive plus + pompous on May 9, 2021 13:41:08 GMT 1
Yes a villain for keeping a rank awful squad in the Premier league then finally getting overwhelmed by far superior opposition in the 2nd season. The likes of schindler, hogg and Mooy were so burnt out after putting in absolutely everything into every game in that first season. Schindler in particular was exhausted after every game in that first season. Very true. One of my abiding memories from that 1st season was as soon as the final whistle blew, you would see every player drop to the ground in pure exhaustion. It was effort and commitment beyond belief. 100% correct. Unbelieveable commitment and effort in that first season in the Premier league. I dont believe Schindler was ever the same player after that.
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Post by ACW on May 9, 2021 13:48:49 GMT 1
There's a BIG difference between acknowledging Wagner's faults and labelling him as a "villain". You have read the thread title? Still, he took the pay rises, he took the adulation, he took the plaudits, then he took off. Yeah, absolute twat that David Wagner wasn't he? Shame he wasn't blameless and perfect like Dean Hoyle. We'll never agree on this one, so I'm not wasting any more of my time.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 14:23:26 GMT 1
There's a BIG difference between acknowledging Wagner's faults and labelling him as a "villain". You have read the thread title? Still, he took the pay rises, he took the adulation, he took the plaudits, then he took off. Mel, this is becoming an unhealthy obsession pal. You seem to be blaming him for everything that happened after his departure as well. That’s what the usual suspects do at my work; blame the former colleagues who have moved on.
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