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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2021 12:34:37 GMT 1
Try A level Economics: price elasticity of demand comes to mind :-) So with your A level in Economics are you telling me that they wouldn’t sell more if the price was lower ? If so I can tell you, without the benefit of one, that you are wrong, it’s debatable as to or not they would sell enough to cover the reduced mark up but I’ve already given a reasonable response to that. I repeat myself, I think it’s a nice looking shirt but even at the cheaper end of replica shirts, at £48 they are too expensive, the same article minus a football club badge would be £25 in Matalan or Primark. Hmm - oh dear you've missed the point fella - if the price is lower and the resulting revenue is less - then its pointless and price inelastic but if the resulting revenue is higher then its price elastic. It does n't matter if the price falls and demand increases yet overall revenue falls - that's the point. But hey I was only trying to be helpful....
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Post by Mecha Corte on Jun 12, 2021 13:05:18 GMT 1
So with your A level in Economics are you telling me that they wouldn’t sell more if the price was lower ? If so I can tell you, without the benefit of one, that you are wrong, it’s debatable as to or not they would sell enough to cover the reduced mark up but I’ve already given a reasonable response to that. I repeat myself, I think it’s a nice looking shirt but even at the cheaper end of replica shirts, at £48 they are too expensive, the same article minus a football club badge would be £25 in Matalan or Primark. Hmm - oh dear you've missed the point fella - if the price is lower and the resulting revenue is less - then its pointless and price inelastic but if the resulting revenue is higher then its price elastic. It does n't matter if the price falls and demand increases yet overall revenue falls - that's the point. But hey I was only trying to be helpful.... With all due respect fella, it’s you that has missed the point - bearing in mind neither of us actually know how many shirts we sell or what the mark up is on each one, I gave two possibilities, to my mind reasonable guesstimates but I’m aware the figures could be wide of the mark, but with no knowledge of the answer yourself you tell me it’s wrong and ignore the possibility of extra income from more names and numbers printed and the possibility of sponsors being pleased with extra exposure and the fan base being pleased with not being fleeced, not everything is measured in £’s. In the past 40 years, before the PL, the most season cards the club ever sold was the £100 Centenary one, it had nothing to do with the date it was down to the cost, Town can charge £100 for next season’s shirt, they will still sell a few, but not many and they will antagonise a lot of their fans in the process, the exact opposite of what my original post proposed. It’s a lot more simple than A Level economics, hope you find it helpful.
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Post by digs on Jun 12, 2021 13:15:29 GMT 1
Man U do have some real young fans you know,from Manchester Yes I know. I’m talking about a shirt and the prominence of some names on it, Ours is more prominent more proud more obvious and better. Names on outside of shirt look stupid or invisible. So why can't we put the names on the outside and make them invisible,then they won't look stupid
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2021 16:26:42 GMT 1
Yes I know. I’m talking about a shirt and the prominence of some names on it, Ours is more prominent more proud more obvious and better. Names on outside of shirt look stupid or invisible. So why can't we put the names on the outside and make them invisible,then they won't look stupid We did that last season.
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Post by orinoco on Jun 12, 2021 20:53:30 GMT 1
If away kit is like the 1 belgium are playing in tonight would be well happy. Very smart kit for international team. But wont be because we are umbro and that kit is adidas😢
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 12, 2021 22:32:45 GMT 1
Yes I know. I’m talking about a shirt and the prominence of some names on it, Ours is more prominent more proud more obvious and better. Names on outside of shirt look stupid or invisible. So why can't we put the names on the outside and make them invisible,then they won't look stupid If they're invisible how do you know they aren't on the outside too 🤔😉
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Post by digs on Jun 12, 2021 23:30:15 GMT 1
So why can't we put the names on the outside and make them invisible,then they won't look stupid If they're invisible how do you know they aren't on the outside too 🤔😉 Because it would look stupid
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 12, 2021 23:35:50 GMT 1
If they're invisible how do you know they aren't on the outside too 🤔😉 Because it would look stupid 😁😁😁
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Post by westislandterrier on Jun 13, 2021 0:28:36 GMT 1
Some questions for the history buffs. 1. When did we first wear the 3 stars on the shirt? 2. I may have heard somewhere that the FA awarded the stars because we were the first team to win the league 3 times in a row. Is this true? I do know the shield was presented by the FA to honour the achievement and I remember when Liverpool matched it they copied it for them, presumably they did for Arsenal as well 40 years previously? Never heard of the PL copying it for Man United either but I suppose they were the first in that sense. As for stars on the shirt I’m not sure, International sides have them for World Cup’s and club sides have them for a variety of things, didn’t Rangers once have 5 with one for every 10 titles, while Celtic just the one for their European Cup ? Dumbarton FC have two ** stars above the unique Elephant and Castle badge. This is because they won the first two Scottish League Championships ! Personally I liked the three stars above the Town badge as that was a truly magnificent achievement and not something purchased like say Manchester City will inevitably do. I’d have them back there in a heartbeat above the badge given the incredible successful run it was in a very competitive and far more level playing era financial wise. However at least I can still imagine these glory years a little as it’s incorporated in small stars in the badge and at the back of the strips. I’d expect a return big time as we approach the 100 year anniversary of such a massive historical accomplishment. Another Scottish team with stars on top of the badge is Aberdeen FC. The reason The Dons ‘don’ them is that they are the only Scottish team to have won two European throphies, The cup-winners-cup and The European Super Cup. Wasn’t sure what the two were for but ma sister has recently started seeing a fine lad who is an Aberdeen fanatic and he has given me the reason for the two stars. Probably the most honourable reason of those teams up here that do it. His name is Ross and I joke with him that he should follow his nearby neighbors Ross County !
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Post by Norn Iron Terrier on Jun 13, 2021 0:47:40 GMT 1
It’s an Italian thing, one star for 10 league titles. Since copied by others for virtually anything. Even Bradford have one for their FA Cup win! Bradford have one per million season ticket holders. If Bradford did that then they'd share the design of this kit, but obviously have it in varying colours of sick. www.uksoccershop.com/images/MaccabiTelAvivAwayLibero.jpg
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Post by durhamterrier on Jun 13, 2021 13:47:42 GMT 1
Hmm - oh dear you've missed the point fella - if the price is lower and the resulting revenue is less - then its pointless and price inelastic but if the resulting revenue is higher then its price elastic. It does n't matter if the price falls and demand increases yet overall revenue falls - that's the point. But hey I was only trying to be helpful.... With all due respect fella, it’s you that has missed the point - bearing in mind neither of us actually know how many shirts we sell or what the mark up is on each one, I gave two possibilities, to my mind reasonable guesstimates but I’m aware the figures could be wide of the mark, but with no knowledge of the answer yourself you tell me it’s wrong and ignore the possibility of extra income from more names and numbers printed and the possibility of sponsors being pleased with extra exposure and the fan base being pleased with not being fleeced, not everything is measured in £’s. In the past 40 years, before the PL, the most season cards the club ever sold was the £100 Centenary one, it had nothing to do with the date it was down to the cost, Town can charge £100 for next season’s shirt, they will still sell a few, but not many and they will antagonise a lot of their fans in the process, the exact opposite of what my original post proposed. It’s a lot more simple than A Level economics, hope you find it helpful. Can tell you the mark up for most top flight teams using Adidas / Nike is about 700% for the “fan version” of kits . Imagine towns would be slightly lower due to selling price and use of Umbro so maybe 550/600%. However obviously the more popular they are, the higher the mark up due to economies of scale
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Post by dbterrier32 on Jun 13, 2021 16:40:53 GMT 1
If away kit is like the 1 belgium are playing in tonight would be well happy. Very smart kit for international team. But wont be because we are umbro and that kit is adidas😢 Away kit is navy blue with 1 blue stripe same colour as home blue down the side. 3rd kit is mint green with coral coloured badges
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 21:34:10 GMT 1
If away kit is like the 1 belgium are playing in tonight would be well happy. Very smart kit for international team. But wont be because we are umbro and that kit is adidas😢 Away kit is navy blue with 1 blue stripe same colour as home blue down the side. 3rd kit is mint green with coral coloured badges What happens if we get Wycombe away in the cup ? wear a special FA cup centenary anniversary 4th design kit that is red and black ?
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 14, 2021 8:19:23 GMT 1
Away kit is navy blue with 1 blue stripe same colour as home blue down the side. 3rd kit is mint green with coral coloured badges What happens if we get Wycombe away in the cup ? wear a special FA cup centenary anniversary 4th design kit that is red and black ? Wear the green kit?
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 15, 2021 22:24:16 GMT 1
Thank fuck we didn't get this monstrosity especially with the half and half shorts 🤢
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Post by space hardware on Jun 15, 2021 22:26:45 GMT 1
Thank fuck we didn't get this monstrosity especially with the half and half shorts 🤢 Wow. That's appalling. From having a simple, beautiful, unsponsored shirt to that crap in a few years 🤦🏻♂️
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Post by Mecha Corte on Jun 16, 2021 8:19:20 GMT 1
Thank fuck we didn't get this monstrosity especially with the half and half shorts 🤢 Wow. That's appalling. From having a simple, beautiful, unsponsored shirt to that crap in a few years 🤦🏻♂️ My thoughts exactly, I think they were the last team to succumb to a shirt sponsor, about 2010 ? arguing their shirt was too important to cover with a logo, in England all teams had one before the 1990s. If I remember rightly at first they used a charity, UNICEF for free, then signed the most expensive deal ever with Qatar. Not down to the logo but that kit is truly awful, ours for next season is miles better and someone has probably been paid a lot of money to design it especially for them, all they had to do was alter the colours and sponsor on ours and they would have done a much better job.
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Post by Five Lamps on Jun 16, 2021 9:48:59 GMT 1
Thank fuck we didn't get this monstrosity especially with the half and half shorts 🤢 Jesus, you weren't kidding about the shorts!
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 16, 2021 12:06:52 GMT 1
Thank fuck we didn't get this monstrosity especially with the half and half shorts 🤢 Nike have developed a strategy in the last few years for clubs that make a lot of money from replica sales. They just alternate between 2 types of kit. One year they come up with a more outlandish option. Can be a monstrosity like this (or that checkerboard one from 2 years ago) which generates a lot of free media attention and brings out all of the traditionalists who just want a normal kit, or it could be a stylish but different one that will get more sales from people who wear football shirts as fashion. Then the next year they go back to a classic one. All the traditionalists think thank god, then they buy one. All the die hards buy both anyway. Barcelona are the most egregious example, look at their kits from the 2014-15 season to now. Spurs do it too but to a lesser extent.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jun 17, 2021 12:48:39 GMT 1
Thank fuck we didn't get this monstrosity especially with the half and half shorts 🤢 Nike have developed a strategy in the last few years for clubs that make a lot of money from replica sales. They just alternate between 2 types of kit. One year they come up with a more outlandish option. Can be a monstrosity like this (or that checkerboard one from 2 years ago) which generates a lot of free media attention and brings out all of the traditionalists who just want a normal kit, or it could be a stylish but different one that will get more sales from people who wear football shirts as fashion. Then the next year they go back to a classic one. All the traditionalists think thank god, then they buy one. All the die hards buy both anyway. Barcelona are the most egregious example, look at their kits from the 2014-15 season to now. Spurs do it too but to a lesser extent. I used to work on Nike’s business and this is pretty spot on from what I understood. I think the Nigeria kit success a few years ago has pushed this strategy on a notch. Kit suppliers are trying to capture the streetwear audience whilst providing something palatable for fans. And the third kits are usually fluorescent efforts to attract kids who are the most likely to buy/be bought shirts
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 21:19:47 GMT 1
Thank fuck we didn't get this monstrosity especially with the half and half shorts 🤢 Jesus, you weren't kidding about the shorts! Scu thorpe United
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Post by bobrobterrier on Jun 18, 2021 16:50:41 GMT 1
Love the new kit me. Our best in years IMO. Hopefully a better season is coming
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 21, 2021 13:18:28 GMT 1
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 21, 2021 16:46:00 GMT 1
Surely another PP stunt?
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 21, 2021 17:06:25 GMT 1
It'd fit with what someone put about Nike making awful shirts every other year, although that green monstrosity they wore last season could qualify too
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Post by yappledapple on Jun 21, 2021 17:42:54 GMT 1
Going back to Barcelona - apparently this is their CL kit 🤮
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 21, 2021 18:11:31 GMT 1
Going back to Barcelona - apparently this is their CL kit 🤮 🤢🤢🤢
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 21, 2021 19:32:40 GMT 1
Nike have alot to answer for 🧐
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Post by capitalterrier on Jun 21, 2021 20:11:08 GMT 1
When are our away kits out?
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Post by bogart on Jun 22, 2021 15:25:38 GMT 1
Probably around same time as the rest of the kit is available. All depends on which sweatshop is making them! You cannot rely on anyone these days, especially 9yr old Bangladeshi kids.
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