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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 5, 2021 6:57:16 GMT 1
I hate to be that guy, but using the > symbol in that way suggests you think the exact opposite of what I think you’re trying to say. I think you wanted to say that Rhodes is BETTER than Sanogo, but what you actually said is the exact opposite. Again, apologies for being an arsehole. I didn’t want to be the one to mention that! Think we know what he was trying to say. Nothing wrong with correcting him though. Maybe he was listing it in terms of shitness Sanogo is a greater level of shitness than Rhodes
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Post by durhamterrier on Jun 5, 2021 8:49:14 GMT 1
So had a nosey on the Oxford Website. They have different threads for each player that are open for sometimes years on end. There is one for this kid so interesting reading the same comments time after time over the period stretching back to last June. General consensus is he’s a good pro. Rarely injured (til he comes here). However the concern was the constant theme that he’s a converted CM to LB and whilst decent going forward gets destroyed against the better L1 wingers. Apparently Malik Wilks gave him absolute nightmares. There are several Mentions of the fact they think champ wingers would have a field day 1 on 1 with him but guess time will tell. The reason I found their fans comments interesting were that they weren’t just tainted and bitter as we fans sometimes get once we know someone is going. As I say they dated back up to 12 months. Do wonder if Carlos will persist with wing backs in a 3-5-2 so is less worried about defensive duties . Also intetesting that both full backs can play cm after last seasons farces !
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Post by yappledapple on Jun 5, 2021 9:28:42 GMT 1
Do none of you play Fantasy Football 😉
That’s the standard > symbol used for talking about switching one player for another, particularly in text/social media/forum speak.
Nothing to do with the mathematical greater than/less than!
I totally understood it 😁
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Post by Amigo on Jun 5, 2021 9:32:07 GMT 1
All looks like good squad building so far. We struggled mainly last season trying to shift players in to different positions because the options weren't available, the first team itself wasn't that bad (obviously could do with strengthening) but getting an injury and having a ready made 'decent' replacement is a step up from shifting players out of position and upsetting the rest of the side.
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 5, 2021 12:31:33 GMT 1
I didn’t want to be the one to mention that! Think we know what he was trying to say. Nothing wrong with correcting him though. Sanogo is a great level of shitness than Rhodes Debateable. Sanogoals was a useful option in terms of holding the ball up & relieving pressure on the defence. I don't see JR doing that.
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 5, 2021 12:46:48 GMT 1
I still think we need to stregthen the first 11 however you have got to say the signings are better than what we previously had Sanogo > Rhodes ✅ Duhaney > Turton ✅ Stearman > Pearson ✅ Pereira > Nicholls✅ J Brown > Ruffels ✅ Squad depth is better as a whole. The way I look at it is, 11 players have left, either by being released from their contracts or their loans ending. If we brought them all back tomorrow, what role would you expect them to play? Leutwiler & Poppadom Hands would both be behind Nicholls in the pecking order = we've strengthened the GK position, Duhaney & Brown would be behind Turton & (presumably) Ruffels, so we've strengthened the fullbacks. Schindler, Elphick & Stearman might get the odd game but even if fit I wouldn't see them as guaranteed starters, although I wouldn't rule them out either. Pearson might be better, but it's not obvious = Jury is out. Eiting & Pritchard have gone, Reece Brown has returned as his loan has ended. Eiting would walk into our current side. Pritchard would be much as he was before, a disappointment. Midfield = weaker. No wingers have arrived or left. Reasonable to hope that Rowe, Aarons, Grant & Thomas might give more this season than last though. Niasse, I don't think we can count because he didn't get a single minute. Sanogoals would offer something that our other strikers can't & would be a useful plan B, but nothing more. Rhodes - it depends whether we can get him firing. The JR we had first time around would definitely be a bonus, the one Massive had would not. Jury is out. Conclusion = Stronger goalkeeper & fullbacks Possibly stronger wingers Jury out CB & Strikers Weaker central midfield We probably have improved, but only slightly. And I'm expecting the division to be stronger next season. An encouraging start, but I'm still looking at next season as a relegation battle based on current squad (even including the new left back).
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Post by boooothy on Jun 5, 2021 13:12:20 GMT 1
The back up full backs were seen as having potential but turned out, to few people’s surprise, to be rubbish.
They have been replaced with 2 better, more expensive full backs, with zero potential.
I’m in favour but it seems a shift in policy. Hopefully the same applies to loans and we dump this idea of loaning players we have a chance of keeping. I want loan players we have no chance of keeping cause they are too good.
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Post by steo1986 on Jun 5, 2021 15:45:23 GMT 1
Clearly we have beat Forest to this signing
Sky sports transfer centre says - HUDDS WANT RUFFELS
Huddersfield are close to an agreement with left-back Josh Ruffels.
The 27-year-old is a free agent at the end of the month when his contract with Oxford expires on June 30.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 5, 2021 16:17:24 GMT 1
Clearly we have beat Forest to this signing Sky sports transfer centre says - HUDDS WANT RUFFELS Huddersfield are close to an agreement with left-back Josh Ruffels. The 27-year-old is a free agent at the end of the month when his contract with Oxford expires on June 30. You’ve only got to see Maynardblue has liked the opening post to know this is going to get done. Sky are just a bunch of hacks reading down at the Mac 😉
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jun 5, 2021 19:35:33 GMT 1
Do none of you play Fantasy Football 😉 That’s the standard > symbol used for talking about switching one player for another, particularly in text/social media/forum speak. Nothing to do with the mathematical greater than/less than! I totally understood it 😁 Bloody hate kids 😚
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Post by yappledapple on Jun 5, 2021 20:13:51 GMT 1
Do none of you play Fantasy Football 😉 That’s the standard > symbol used for talking about switching one player for another, particularly in text/social media/forum speak. Nothing to do with the mathematical greater than/less than! I totally understood it 😁 Bloody hate kids 😚 I doubt very much at my age I could be classed as a kid 😉
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Post by goodbet on Jun 5, 2021 21:09:44 GMT 1
I think it is too early to say if we are getting better or not, but a few thoughts. Full Backs - Stronger overall but not the first eleven are my first thoughts. we can play more competent players when we rest or our first choice is injured and do this without weakening some other area of the team. Centre Back - looks like a steady signing but for me he is no Schindler, so we could be weaker than our pre Christmas team. Midfield - Waiting for signings and hoping to move one on, so obviously weaker at the moment Wingers - Hoping to move one on, still weak Strikers - We all hope that Rhodes can turn the clock back 5 years, Ward must be available for a few more games this season, but would that make us stronger? Captain - we need one and this should not be Hogg
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Post by terriers2000 on Jun 5, 2021 21:48:50 GMT 1
forest fan saying on Facebook-"I wonder if we were really interested in him? If so, then I’m not sure what Huddersfield can offer that we can’t?!"
and the response from a forest fan was- "huddersfield have a lot of money and can beat anyone to any player"
and"If a player chooses Huddersfield over us we are in all kinds of trouble🙈"
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jun 6, 2021 14:24:25 GMT 1
So had a nosey on the Oxford Website. They have different threads for each player that are open for sometimes years on end. There is one for this kid so interesting reading the same comments time after time over the period stretching back to last June. General consensus is he’s a good pro. Rarely injured (til he comes here). However the concern was the constant theme that he’s a converted CM to LB and whilst decent going forward gets destroyed against the better L1 wingers. Apparently Malik Wilks gave him absolute nightmares. There are several Mentions of the fact they think champ wingers would have a field day 1 on 1 with him but guess time will tell. The reason I found their fans comments interesting were that they weren’t just tainted and bitter as we fans sometimes get once we know someone is going. As I say they dated back up to 12 months. Do wonder if Carlos will persist with wing backs in a 3-5-2 so is less worried about defensive duties . Also intetesting that both full backs can play cm after last seasons farces ! We have invented a new system - the false no 3 formation. Basically, it’s like the false no 9 strategy but we don’t play an out and out left back, we play an extra midfielder and rotate who bombs back to cover the left flank.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 6, 2021 14:46:32 GMT 1
I think it is too early to say if we are getting better or not, but a few thoughts. Full Backs - Stronger overall but not the first eleven are my first thoughts. we can play more competent players when we rest or our first choice is injured and do this without weakening some other area of the team. Centre Back - looks like a steady signing but for me he is no Schindler, so we could be weaker than our pre Christmas team. Midfield - Waiting for signings and hoping to move one on, so obviously weaker at the moment Wingers - Hoping to move one on, still weak Strikers - We all hope that Rhodes can turn the clock back 5 years, Ward must be available for a few more games this season, but would that make us stronger? Captain - we need one and this should not be Hogg We are a work in progress Work in progress?.....for the umpteenth season in a row.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 6, 2021 14:48:57 GMT 1
I think it is too early to say if we are getting better or not, but a few thoughts. Full Backs - Stronger overall but not the first eleven are my first thoughts. we can play more competent players when we rest or our first choice is injured and do this without weakening some other area of the team. Centre Back - looks like a steady signing but for me he is no Schindler, so we could be weaker than our pre Christmas team. Midfield - Waiting for signings and hoping to move one on, so obviously weaker at the moment Wingers - Hoping to move one on, still weak Strikers - We all hope that Rhodes can turn the clock back 5 years, Ward must be available for a few more games this season, but would that make us stronger? Captain - we need one and this should not be Hogg We are a work in progress Work in progress?.....for the umpteenth season in a row. I hate that term. Its usually used by mangers following a defeat or indifferent performance.
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Post by goodbet on Jun 6, 2021 15:45:06 GMT 1
Work in progress?.....for the umpteenth season in a row. I hate that term. Its usually used by mangers following a defeat or indifferent performance. We have released a lot of players and we have a couple we want to get rid of and at least one more we seem to be touting him in the press. Until we have have replaced them all we are not work in progress we are in .... a state of transition (is that any better). But we have to give them some time for Town to show us what they think is progress.
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Post by terriers2000 on Jun 6, 2021 16:04:05 GMT 1
he looks decent tbf a left back scoring 6 goals and 6 assist in league one is great especially for a team that didn't get promoted but having someone like ruffels for backup for toff is decent far far far better than having obrien and rowe and even for the rb role pipa will be no1 and turton 02 but turton shows passion and wants to play and can already know he is better than duhaney so I'm happy with these 2 signings 👍
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 6, 2021 16:26:25 GMT 1
Do wonder if Carlos will persist with wing backs in a 3-5-2 so is less worried about defensive duties . Also intetesting that both full backs can play cm after last seasons farces ! We have invented a new system - the false no 3 formation. Basically, it’s like the false no 9 strategy but we don’t play an out and out left back, we play an extra midfielder and rotate who bombs back to cover the left flank. Is it possible to play a false No 1 ?
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 6, 2021 16:44:55 GMT 1
We have invented a new system - the false no 3 formation. Basically, it’s like the false no 9 strategy but we don’t play an out and out left back, we play an extra midfielder and rotate who bombs back to cover the left flank. Is it possible to play a false No 1 ? We’ve been playing false number 1’s for some time. Hologram, papadum hands etc.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 6, 2021 16:57:02 GMT 1
Work in progress?.....for the umpteenth season in a row. I hate that term. Its usually used by mangers following a defeat or indifferent performance. It's used at Town to cover up shortcomings and treading water.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 6, 2021 17:08:24 GMT 1
I hate that term. Its usually used by mangers following a defeat or indifferent performance. It's used at Town to cover up shortcomings and treading water. It’s all about the process!
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 6, 2021 17:10:38 GMT 1
It's used at Town to cover up shortcomings and treading water. It’s all about the process! When do we get the finished product?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 6, 2021 17:21:12 GMT 1
It’s all about the process! When do we get the finished product? Can’t remember Cowley speak for finished product. Seriously though, I know what you mean, surely it’s time to get serious about all of this and for us to see some signs of real progress.
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Post by goodbet on Jun 6, 2021 17:26:10 GMT 1
It’s all about the process! When do we get the finished product? There never is a finished product. After the window closes we start looking at January and forever looking for young prospects. Saying this after the window is closed we know that what we have got and we will see how the squad beds in and how important January is likely to be. If any player looks like he has some quality, we will be pinning a price on his chest to use his sell on value to continue building and strengthening the team. The hope is that we can eventually have another go at the greedy league (for some anyway). I don't expect to live that long, you know what they say about lightening.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 6, 2021 18:21:06 GMT 1
When do we get the finished product? There never is a finished product. After the window closes we start looking at January and forever looking for young prospects. Saying this after the window is closed we know that what we have got and we will see how the squad beds in and how important January is likely to be. If any player looks like he has some quality, we will be pinning a price on his chest to use his sell on value to continue building and strengthening the team. The hope is that we can eventually have another go at the greedy league (for some anyway). I don't expect to live that long, you know what they say about lightening. Whereas I know you're always looking to improve your squad but you have to say at some point we're ready for a tilt at promotion, although I'd have to question whether club do actually want promotion again.
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Post by dezzly on Jun 6, 2021 18:28:24 GMT 1
There never is a finished product. After the window closes we start looking at January and forever looking for young prospects. Saying this after the window is closed we know that what we have got and we will see how the squad beds in and how important January is likely to be. If any player looks like he has some quality, we will be pinning a price on his chest to use his sell on value to continue building and strengthening the team. The hope is that we can eventually have another go at the greedy league (for some anyway). I don't expect to live that long, you know what they say about lightening. Whereas I know you're always looking to improve your squad but you have to say at some point we're ready for a tilt at promotion, although I'd have to question whether club do actually want promotion again. I think they most definitely want it.I would suggest though that they would like to be ready for it.Or at least a considerable amount more ready for it.
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Post by linson on Jun 6, 2021 18:54:55 GMT 1
Personally, the more I read about Ruffels, the more pleased I am that we're in for him.
I think picking up the league belows best players who are out of contract and in prime years is a solid transfer strategy. Most of them will have resale value and we don't lose much if it doesn't work out.
Sounds like we're finally trying to look for specific kinds of players in terms of leadership, physicality and mentality.
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Post by Big Ern on Jun 6, 2021 19:58:36 GMT 1
Personally, the more I read about Ruffels, the more pleased I am that we're in for him. I think picking up the league belows best players who are out of contract and in prime years is a solid transfer strategy. Most of them will have resale value and we don't lose much if it doesn't work out. Sounds like we're finally trying to look for specific kinds of players in terms of leadership, physicality and mentality. I remember thinking Antony Kay was the best player in league 1...
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 6, 2021 20:04:04 GMT 1
Personally, the more I read about Ruffels, the more pleased I am that we're in for him. I think picking up the league belows best players who are out of contract and in prime years is a solid transfer strategy. Most of them will have resale value and we don't lose much if it doesn't work out. Sounds like we're finally trying to look for specific kinds of players in terms of leadership, physicality and mentality. I remember thinking Antony Kay was the best player in league 1... I saw him down at Canalside the other day
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