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Post by CaptainHart on Jun 11, 2021 10:21:08 GMT 1
And you would rather have brown as a back up? We not paid a fee, got 5 players in. Not bad business so far Is that how high the bars been set now for supporters like yourself. Because you think hes better than brown it's a good signing. I've accepted this is the kind of player we are after now on our march to league one. Within two years we will be back. But dont try and paper over the cracks as if it's a great signing ffs. Tell us what we should have done then.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 11, 2021 10:22:34 GMT 1
We needed back up for both full backs and have gone down the reliable and experienced route for them. I think thats good myself. Jaden Brown was the young player with potential we had as back up and when push came to shove the manager couldn't trust him to do a job. Thats 5 signings.. all will improve the squad I reckon and 2 or 3 of them will improve the first XI. Totally agree. Competition for places is what drives players on to produce their best. Previously some have been content to wander around the pitch aimlessly ( any similarity with Bacuna is totally coincidental ) knowing full well that whatever happens, they will be playing in the next game. Exactly. Think Pipa is a good example of that. When he first came he had to impress his new manager, impress the fans watching on TV and prove he could perform in the physical intensity of the championship. He very quickly did all that, but IMO his form tailed off badly from then on in and not having ANY genuine competition for his place to drive him on must have played a part in that. Not a criticism of Pipas attitude, I just think players need it to keep to that high level.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 11, 2021 10:25:26 GMT 1
Is that how high the bars been set now for supporters like yourself. Because you think hes better than brown it's a good signing. I've accepted this is the kind of player we are after now on our march to league one. Within two years we will be back. But dont try and paper over the cracks as if it's a great signing ffs. Tell us what we should have done then. Spent a load of money we don't have would be my guess. Spending loads of money on players guarantees quality as we know all too well, and being financially stable is vastly over rated anyway.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 11, 2021 10:43:42 GMT 1
I’m with you Nico. Whilst I’m 100% on board with the signings so far, after the last few years we’ve had, wouldn’t it be great to have an exciting player to look forward to watch. As others have said, there’s a while to go yet, so fingers crossed. The last signing we made where I was really 'wowed' was Marcus Stewart. At the time I could not believe we had signed him and could not wait to see him play for us. I have not felt the same about any signing since. VLP for me !!!!!
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Post by softboy on Jun 11, 2021 10:45:34 GMT 1
Having listened to this guys interview and those of his fellow signings they all mention many times they are here for the challenge of testing themselves in the Championship and Huddersfield are a big club. I would much prefer we signed players like this (even if some are not able to make the step up) rather than PL and Championship out of contract journeymen looking for there last reasonably big pay cheque. I seem to remember there was a lot of sceptism when we signed a relatively unknown German Centre Half for quite a big fee at the time and that seemed to work out well. I really do think we need to reserve judgement until we see them play. From my point of view I would not consider any of them to be poor signings.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 11:23:28 GMT 1
Just one exciting get off your seat type signing after two years in the greedy league isn’t too much to want is it? Phil Foden on hold then?
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Post by yoy on Jun 11, 2021 11:49:13 GMT 1
Having listened to this guys interview and those of his fellow signings they all mention many times they are here for the challenge of testing themselves in the Championship and Huddersfield are a big club. I would much prefer we signed players like this (even if some are not able to make the step up) rather than PL and Championship out of contract journeymen looking for there last reasonably big pay cheque. I seem to remember there was a lot of sceptism when we signed a relatively unknown German Centre Half for quite a big fee at the time and that seemed to work out well. I really do think we need to reserve judgement until we see them play. From my point of view I would not consider any of them to be poor signings. Agree with this. If we look at the players departed over the last 24 months and compare to those incoming (particularly this summer). Then I cannot help but believe that dressing room spirit has to be improving. Clearly we need results to follow, but in the attitude stakes the squad is improving. And in my view.... that’s a huge part of the battle.
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Post by richhtfc on Jun 11, 2021 12:34:09 GMT 1
Crikey, I wasn’t aware you watched Oxford every week last season? One of my best pals is an oxford fan. Very suprised at us signing him. Look at the reaction of the supporters online as well. A steady eddy league one player is a below par championship player. Great signing though. So why did Forest and Luton want him as well?
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 11, 2021 12:55:31 GMT 1
Having listened to this guys interview and those of his fellow signings they all mention many times they are here for the challenge of testing themselves in the Championship and Huddersfield are a big club. I would much prefer we signed players like this (even if some are not able to make the step up) rather than PL and Championship out of contract journeymen looking for there last reasonably big pay cheque. I seem to remember there was a lot of sceptism when we signed a relatively unknown German Centre Half for quite a big fee at the time and that seemed to work out well. I really do think we need to reserve judgement until we see them play. From my point of view I would not consider any of them to be poor signings. Agree with this. If we look at the players departed over the last 24 months and compare to those incoming (particularly this summer). Then I cannot help but believe that dressing room spirit has to be improving. Clearly we need results to follow, but in the attitude stakes the squad is improving. And in my view.... that’s a huge part of the battle. It got us promoted last time
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Post by yoy on Jun 11, 2021 12:59:26 GMT 1
Agree with this. If we look at the players departed over the last 24 months and compare to those incoming (particularly this summer). Then I cannot help but believe that dressing room spirit has to be improving. Clearly we need results to follow, but in the attitude stakes the squad is improving. And in my view.... that’s a huge part of the battle. It got us promoted last time Solid, competitive base with a sprinkling of quality (that also works hard). The recipe for every promotion I remember us having. I remember our 2-1 loss at home to City in the first season in the premier league. City didn’t play well at all, but the thing that really struck me that day was just how hard they worked. It was phenomenal.
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Post by terriers321 on Jun 11, 2021 13:35:41 GMT 1
Is that how high the bars been set now for supporters like yourself. Because you think hes better than brown it's a good signing. I've accepted this is the kind of player we are after now on our march to league one. Within two years we will be back. But dont try and paper over the cracks as if it's a great signing ffs. Tell us what we should have done then. They need to invest some money into that squad and bring some players in with a bit of quality that will actually improve the team. People have quickly forgotten the second half of the season we were comfortably one of the worst sides in it. Signing Jordan Rhodes and some players released from Luton and league one isnt going to change that. We have signed a few extra bodies to cover injuries, but do you really think the lads weve signed so far are going to make any difference? The signings to me scream out desperation from our woeful recruitment team, not good pre planning. Mark my words, this team will be down there next season unless a different calibre of player will be brought in.
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Post by terriers321 on Jun 11, 2021 13:37:09 GMT 1
One of my best pals is an oxford fan. Very suprised at us signing him. Look at the reaction of the supporters online as well. A steady eddy league one player is a below par championship player. Great signing though. So why did Forest and Luton want him as well? Paper talk. He wouldn't of come here if they were interested knowing how we have dealt with transfers recently.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 13:47:51 GMT 1
Crikey, I wasn’t aware you watched Oxford every week last season? One of my best pals is an oxford fan. Very suprised at us signing him. Look at the reaction of the supporters online as well. A steady eddy league one player is a below par championship player. Great signing though. Cheer up fella; the sun is out, the new kit looks smashing, fixtures out in two weeks, ok your spelling needs some work and indeed lots of Oxford fans are sorry to see him go except your mate :-(
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Post by terriers321 on Jun 11, 2021 14:01:47 GMT 1
One of my best pals is an oxford fan. Very suprised at us signing him. Look at the reaction of the supporters online as well. A steady eddy league one player is a below par championship player. Great signing though. Cheer up fella; the sun is out, the new kit looks smashing, fixtures out in two weeks, ok your spelling needs some work and indeed lots of Oxford fans are sorry to see him go except your mate :-( Life is good pal. Surprisingly, its just town that turns me into a miserable bastard.
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Post by CaptainHart on Jun 11, 2021 14:12:21 GMT 1
Tell us what we should have done then. They need to invest some money into that squad and bring some players in with a bit of quality that will actually improve the team. People have quickly forgotten the second half of the season we were comfortably one of the worst sides in it. Signing Jordan Rhodes and some players released from Luton and league one isnt going to change that. We have signed a few extra bodies to cover injuries, but do you really think the lads weve signed so far are going to make any difference? The signings to me scream out desperation from our woeful recruitment team, not good pre planning. Mark my words, this team will be down there next season unless a different calibre of player will be brought in. They're going to make a difference when the starting players are unavailable. Are you suggesting that we should be bringing in a better left-back than Toffolo?
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 11, 2021 15:30:55 GMT 1
Tell us what we should have done then. They need to invest some money into that squad and bring some players in with a bit of quality that will actually improve the team. People have quickly forgotten the second half of the season we were comfortably one of the worst sides in it. Signing Jordan Rhodes and some players released from Luton and league one isnt going to change that. We have signed a few extra bodies to cover injuries, but do you really think the lads weve signed so far are going to make any difference? The signings to me scream out desperation from our woeful recruitment team, not good pre planning. Mark my words, this team will be down there next season unless a different calibre of player will be brought in. Have you not been following the script? We were told by PH that 5 depth players were coming in to start with. Then after that was sorted the exciting signings would happen. The window has literally just opened so you will have to show some patience. I suspect we won’t hear a whisper until the signings are done or you might hear that we are close without names. No point being miserable and it’s not even July 🤷♂️
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Post by tyketaffy on Jun 11, 2021 16:15:50 GMT 1
If we got the entire Man City squad signed up for town, a few on this board wuld still be moaning we lack ambition/are heading for league 1. Constructive criticism is fine but constant moaning about the squad/manager/owner is not going to make one haporth of differance to what happens. The simple fact is for whatever reason, (insert your own take on why we have no money here) we have little money to spend and thus we have to build a squad we can afford not one we would all love to have. Mick Buxton took a squard of hand me downs and built two promotion winning teams,Jackson worked with no money and got us up, Wagner buuilt a squad from mainly low coast unknowns and smart prem loans and got us to the promised land.
If I wanted a team like one of the big six in the prem I would go and support them, because we know no matter how good we get we will never be able to compete with the big boys in the prem consistantly due to lack of money not lack of ambition. But town are MY team and no matter what league we are in this will get my support and fek the glory hunters who jump on the bandwaggon of whatever big team is doing well at the moment
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 16:19:21 GMT 1
Crikey, I wasn’t aware you watched Oxford every week last season? One of my best pals is an oxford fan. Very suprised at us signing him. Look at the reaction of the supporters online as well. A steady eddy league one player is a below par championship player. Great signing though. I don’t think anyone thinks he’s a great signing because he’s a great player. He’s a great signing because he’s a clear upgrade on our previous back up LB. It’s really simple.
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Post by terriers321 on Jun 11, 2021 16:48:59 GMT 1
They need to invest some money into that squad and bring some players in with a bit of quality that will actually improve the team. People have quickly forgotten the second half of the season we were comfortably one of the worst sides in it. Signing Jordan Rhodes and some players released from Luton and league one isnt going to change that. We have signed a few extra bodies to cover injuries, but do you really think the lads weve signed so far are going to make any difference? The signings to me scream out desperation from our woeful recruitment team, not good pre planning. Mark my words, this team will be down there next season unless a different calibre of player will be brought in. Have you not been following the script? We were told by PH that 5 depth players were coming in to start with. Then after that was sorted the exciting signings would happen. The window has literally just opened so you will have to show some patience. I suspect we won’t hear a whisper until the signings are done or you might hear that we are close without names. No point being miserable and it’s not even July 🤷♂️ I have. I just dont believe the script. When results and performances start changing on the pitch I will be more than happy to eat my own words. Until then talk is cheap. And I'm not expecting a premier league return. I'd be more than happy with a season where we arnt in a relegation scrap.
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 11, 2021 17:04:35 GMT 1
We needed back up for both full backs and have gone down the reliable and experienced route for them. I think thats good myself. Jaden Brown was the young player with potential we had as back up and when push came to shove the manager couldn't trust him to do a job. Thats 5 signings.. all will improve the squad I reckon and 2 or 3 of them will improve the first XI. Totally agree. Competition for places is what drives players on to produce their best. Previously some have been content to wander around the pitch aimlessly ( any similarity with Bacuna is totally coincidental ) knowing full well that whatever happens, they will be playing in the next game. That said, in Toffolo I think we've got a player that doesn't tend to lose motivation. Even so, there will still be that pressure to perform or lose his place. There will still be things that Ruffels can do better than Toffolo (as well as vice versa) & they will be able to improve one another. And if Toffolo is injured, suspended or loses form then we have somebody in place that means we don't have to put LoB there. Worth noting too, that on the off chance that somebody comes in for him on deadline day, we'll be in a stronger negotiating position because we're not quite so reliant on one player. And if they offer silly money 2 minutes before the window closes - fine, we accept & Ruffels is 1st choice LB with Jackson as understudy until January.
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 11, 2021 17:08:01 GMT 1
Tell us what we should have done then. They need to invest some money into that squad and bring some players in with a bit of quality that will actually improve the team. People have quickly forgotten the second half of the season we were comfortably one of the worst sides in it. Signing Jordan Rhodes and some players released from Luton and league one isnt going to change that. We have signed a few extra bodies to cover injuries, but do you really think the lads weve signed so far are going to make any difference? The signings to me scream out desperation from our woeful recruitment team, not good pre planning. Mark my words, this team will be down there next season unless a different calibre of player will be brought in. I agree with you that if this is all the business that gets done this window, we're looking at a season of struggle, and if this IS all we do, then I'll eat my words & admit that we're going to spend the season praying for 4th bottom. I just don't think it will be. These are signings that address some of our weaknesses from last season. They don't address them all, but I'd still say they're a good start.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 17:37:02 GMT 1
Both Brighton and Wolverhampton are cities not towns So are York and Carlisle, Lincoln, Preston, Peterborough, Oxford just to name a few and Huddersfield is bigger than all of them. When Wolverhampton and Brightonwere chosen for city status, guess what! so was Huddersfield but the council turned it down. This might well be absolute bollocks / an urban myth, but I'm sure I heard once that the issue was that if we did become a city, it'd have to be called Kirklees?!? I mean, even typing that out it sounds like a steaming pile of shite, though to be fair it does feel like this new-fangled Kirkless tag - that absolutely nobody identifies with - has been rammed down our throats since it was invented in the early 70's, so who knows, eh? Semi-related, I'm sure there's a club who still use Town in their name, even though they've been "upgraded" to a city - trivia question, if anyone can answer?
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 11, 2021 17:45:20 GMT 1
So are York and Carlisle, Lincoln, Preston, Peterborough, Oxford just to name a few and Huddersfield is bigger than all of them. When Wolverhampton and Brightonwere chosen for city status, guess what! so was Huddersfield but the council turned it down. This might well be absolute bollocks / an urban myth, but I'm sure I heard once that the issue was that if we did become a city, it'd have to be called Kirklees?!? I mean, even typing that out it sounds like a steaming pile of shite, though to be fair it does feel like this new-fangled Kirkless tag - that absolutely nobody identifies with - has been rammed down our throats since it was invented in the early 70's, so who knows, eh? Semi-related, I'm sure there's a club who still use Town in their name, even though they've been "upgraded" to a city - trivia question, if anyone can answer? Urban myth. There's an article about the proposal here that says Kirklees would remain as before, but Huddersfield would have been a city. www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/what-could-city-status-us-13748951
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jun 11, 2021 19:59:42 GMT 1
Crikey, I wasn’t aware you watched Oxford every week last season? One of my best pals is an oxford fan. Very suprised at us signing him. Look at the reaction of the supporters online as well. A steady eddy league one player is a below par championship player. Great signing though. I struggled with this. Can you supply a link please? On to the topic. Jonathan Hogg is far from the best footballer in our squad but he is, probably, the first name on the team sheet. Someone who will stretch that last half yard and put their body on the line every game and always give 100%. Also an organiser, keeping others on the ball. I think that is the sort of players these new guys are. If you look back at our Town heroes many are defenders and what makes them stand out is their commitment to the cause. That transcends League 1/Championship. That is guts and determination and, as a defender, it will get you a long way. We have just let 3 'Championship quality' defenders go because they have lost their pace, ability to jump and that half a yard that makes the difference. I think we have brought in defenders who still have that and I would not get too hung up on which league they have mostly played in. Peter Clarke had been player of the year with Southend, was with us and was League 1 PFA fans player of the year. I thought he was great but was he a great footballer? Probably not.
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Post by terriers321 on Jun 11, 2021 20:00:34 GMT 1
Bit of boring information but Huddersfields population comes up smaller in comparison to other places because the way theyve broke down Kirklees. Leeds and Harrogates for example includes all the smaller outlying areas like Wetherby or Otley for Leeds. Or Ripon or Boroughbridge for Harrogate in the totals. Hudds final population doesnt include Colne Valley, Holme Valley, Kirkburton etc. Then you have places like Brighouse and Elland with A HD postcode but in Calderdale and Mirfield further a field. Which I know arnt Hudds but similar places in close proximity like that get included in other towns and cities totals.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 12, 2021 0:57:24 GMT 1
Have you not been following the script? We were told by PH that 5 depth players were coming in to start with. Then after that was sorted the exciting signings would happen. The window has literally just opened so you will have to show some patience. I suspect we won’t hear a whisper until the signings are done or you might hear that we are close without names. No point being miserable and it’s not even July 🤷♂️ I have. I just dont believe the script. When results and performances start changing on the pitch I will be more than happy to eat my own words. Until then talk is cheap. And I'm not expecting a premier league return. I'd be more than happy with a season where we arnt in a relegation scrap. So far the club has done exactly what they said they would do. Ironically you are saying talk is cheap.
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Post by morleyterrier on Jun 12, 2021 4:36:39 GMT 1
Tell us what we should have done then. They need to invest some money into that squad and bring some players in with a bit of quality that will actually improve the team. People have quickly forgotten the second half of the season we were comfortably one of the worst sides in it. Signing Jordan Rhodes and some players released from Luton and league one isnt going to change that. We have signed a few extra bodies to cover injuries, but do you really think the lads weve signed so far are going to make any difference? The signings to me scream out desperation from our woeful recruitment team, not good pre planning. Mark my words, this team will be down there next season unless a different calibre of player will be brought in. Out of interest, what sort of money / transfer fees do you think we should be spending on Players?. If you were in charge of recruitment, what would your recruitment policy be?.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jun 13, 2021 8:24:52 GMT 1
They need to invest some money into that squad and bring some players in with a bit of quality that will actually improve the team. People have quickly forgotten the second half of the season we were comfortably one of the worst sides in it. Signing Jordan Rhodes and some players released from Luton and league one isnt going to change that. We have signed a few extra bodies to cover injuries, but do you really think the lads weve signed so far are going to make any difference? The signings to me scream out desperation from our woeful recruitment team, not good pre planning. Mark my words, this team will be down there next season unless a different calibre of player will be brought in. Out of interest, what sort of money / transfer fees do you think we should be spending on Players?. If you were in charge of recruitment, what would your recruitment policy be?. I tried for some details from terriers321 regarding a link to all the poor reports Oxford supporters had given Ruffels but it has been unsurprisingly quiet. I think we may be into WUM territory.
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Post by terriers321 on Jun 13, 2021 8:51:07 GMT 1
Out of interest, what sort of money / transfer fees do you think we should be spending on Players?. If you were in charge of recruitment, what would your recruitment policy be?. I tried for some details from terriers321 regarding a link to all the poor reports Oxford supporters had given Ruffels but it has been unsurprisingly quiet. I think we may be into WUM territory. Theres a massive thread on him it's not hard to find unless you are picking and choosing what you read. Hes obviously well thought of at oxford due to his commitment to the club but a lot of posters think he isnt good enough for the championship and are suprised, although glad for him that hes got a move? We arnt oxford and we arnt a league one club.
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Post by terriers321 on Jun 13, 2021 9:04:26 GMT 1
Out of interest, what sort of money / transfer fees do you think we should be spending on Players?. If you were in charge of recruitment, what would your recruitment policy be?. I tried for some details from terriers321 regarding a link to all the poor reports Oxford supporters had given Ruffels but it has been unsurprisingly quiet. I think we may be into WUM territory. Like most on here, I'll be a little surprised as and when Ruffels does end up in the Championship - because for all his attacking prowess, he's always struggled defensively against wingers that play at that level. Plus, he turns 28 in October, so he's not going to improve massively at this point in his career. My take is that we can do better. However we can also do a lot lot worse. Solid 7/10 most weeks and have to get replacement right. Have to admit I have reservations about him at that level but I honestly hope be proves me wrong. Doubtful he’d have played as much and for as long if he had proper competition but that’s a different thread. Whether he can compete in the Championship defensively I'm not 100% sure I doubt Championship clubs would have been bidding for Ruffels this summer if he had 2-3 years left on a contract here. He's technically limited at that level, but I can't knock his commitment at all.
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