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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 0:04:15 GMT 1
Evidence: htafc4steve said: Unfair criticism, Public information about a Company correspondence address is just that, nothing more. Tedchipster said: Being a man devoid of feeling and empathy for others your response was wholly predictable. Maybe give it a rest ? Literally nothing libellous. Libel would be if he said you did or said X. He's stated an opinion about your character. That's potentially defamation. See my earlier post about why that would be a foolish accusation to make. Thanks, but I would get relevant advice from my legal representative rather than a football forum, although still appreciated.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jul 23, 2021 0:05:41 GMT 1
Personally, I think Ennius, Mel and Steve have acted in such an unacceptable fashion that it is impossible for them to contribute anything if value on here. No one should be able to treat another member, or admin, in this way. I’m all for banning the lot of them. They’ve made their bed, they can lie in it. We won't ban them for this Ted. They haven't broken the rules of this forum. They'll still say I'm fair game and justify sharing my address with some spurious bollocks, and will still think somehow the banning of Oti was my doing, thus insulting Kenny and Rigsdon's integrity (couldn't care about them insulting mine) and they'll still claim that anyone I take exception to gets banned without due process. But to those who have reached out, I'm grateful. All but one, actually. TownRWe has reached out but seeing as he's spent the week stoking the embers of this fire I hold him equally responsible for creating an environment where people would consider this ok. So we won't ban people. But as well as a skin thicker than yer nan's rice pudding I do have a long memory. I won't forget this. Make me, Ted, Lard Buttie and Space Hardware admins for the day. We’ll call a vote to ban them all. No matter what the substantive admins do, we’ll have a majority. We’ll then all resign in time for tea and medals.
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Post by Lard Buttie on Jul 23, 2021 0:08:15 GMT 1
We won't ban them for this Ted. They haven't broken the rules of this forum. They'll still say I'm fair game and justify sharing my address with some spurious bollocks, and will still think somehow the banning of Oti was my doing, thus insulting Kenny and Rigsdon's integrity (couldn't care about them insulting mine) and they'll still claim that anyone I take exception to gets banned without due process. But to those who have reached out, I'm grateful. All but one, actually. TownRWe has reached out but seeing as he's spent the week stoking the embers of this fire I hold him equally responsible for creating an environment where people would consider this ok. So we won't ban people. But as well as a skin thicker than yer nan's rice pudding I do have a long memory. I won't forget this. Make me, Ted, Lard Buttie and Space Hardware admins for the day. We’ll call a vote to ban them all. No matter what the substantive admins do, we’ll have a majority. We’ll then all resign in time for tea and medals. I'm tempted tbh but I've a young lad to parent and don't think I've the patience to parent another dozen children on top
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Post by cheesecake on Jul 23, 2021 0:12:42 GMT 1
This'll be the 'its okay to be homophobic' forum that ProBoards have no doubt cleared. I think it will last a long time because no one will report anyone else on it, because everyone is of the same opinion. Good luck everyone just remember being homophobic and racist online has consequences. So is DATM as it is awash with homophobic and racist comment?. Think carefully before you dive in and answer this. There is plenty of homophobic content on DATM. I must admit though that a lot of it is from people quoting Otium and trying to defend him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 0:13:06 GMT 1
Personally, I think Ennius, Mel and Steve have acted in such an unacceptable fashion that it is impossible for them to contribute anything if value on here. No one should be able to treat another member, or admin, in this way. I’m all for banning the lot of them. They’ve made their bed, they can lie in it. Excuse me, I have not expressed an opinion on the banning of O, why would I, it's fuck all to do with me. Don't even like the bloke, see our history. The developing result of the poll I started was protected due to my consideration for integrity within the way a developing controversy was handled. Can you not see wood for trees?
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Post by Mounie for nothing on Jul 23, 2021 0:16:35 GMT 1
I feel a bit sorry for Otium. All that life lived and he’ll only be remembered as being the poster boy of all the twats who inhabited this board. For a man of such self-importance I would guess that would rankle. Sadly, his acolytes are too busy making a right wing martyr out of him in some manufactured culture war between Town fans. It’s a pretty shitty way of them to treat a so called mate. I've joined it, just to have best of both worlds. Don't tarnish everyone with that brush please. If covid wasn't bad enough segregating, now we have Fan board segregation. Can you not be on both and be alright? Genuine question Unfortunately you disliked my post, so I am obliged to hate you and oppose anything you ever say. Seriously though, I will read and appreciate anyone's opinion until they cross the line that I deem acceptable. Not accusing you of anything by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 0:20:50 GMT 1
I've joined it, just to have best of both worlds. Don't tarnish everyone with that brush please. If covid wasn't bad enough segregating, now we have Fan board segregation. Can you not be on both and be alright? Genuine question Unfortunately you disliked my post, so I am obliged to hate you and oppose anything you ever say. Seriously though, I will read and appreciate anyone's opinion until they cross the line that I deem acceptable. Not accusing you of anything by the way. I didnt mean to in all honesty. I went to like it and then it crashed saying Error and some number that I'd been restricted, deleted my cookies etc to get back on. I've just addressed the dislike 😅😅
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Post by Wingman on Jul 23, 2021 0:23:41 GMT 1
Just reading what’s going on here, and it’s disgusting. Can this be a low point and something be done to stop this now.
This is a football forum. It’s developing a nasty vindictive side to it which no-one wants and we all lose in the end.
Time for adults to act like adults and take responsibility for their comments and posts. Myself included.
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Post by townrwe on Jul 23, 2021 0:33:55 GMT 1
Personally, I think Ennius, Mel and Steve have acted in such an unacceptable fashion that it is impossible for them to contribute anything if value on here. No one should be able to treat another member, or admin, in this way. I’m all for banning the lot of them. They’ve made their bed, they can lie in it. We won't ban them for this Ted. They haven't broken the rules of this forum. They'll still say I'm fair game and justify sharing my address with some spurious bollocks, and will still think somehow the banning of Oti was my doing, thus insulting Kenny and Rigsdon's integrity (couldn't care about them insulting mine) and they'll still claim that anyone I take exception to gets banned without due process. But to those who have reached out, I'm grateful. All but one, actually. TownRWe has reached out but seeing as he's spent the week stoking the embers of this fire I hold him equally responsible for creating an environment where people would consider this ok. So we won't ban people. But as well as a skin thicker than yer nan's rice pudding I do have a long memory. I won't forget this. Reached out to help get his name and address removed and got told to jog the fuck on.... reached out to help calm the Otium problem initially and basically got the same response...... have a look at how many times I told you I wanted to work with you not against you. Offer the voice of Atthemac whilst remaining in a minority on Admin. The problem isn't me, it's your unwillingness to engage. Stupid one liners that take comment out of context, You dont need a thicker skin, you just need a mirror. You've had all week to engage with reasonable dialogue, to sort it out, what next I run an election poll and finish top 3... its totally unnecessary, we want a representative admin, not one that is abusive to members trying to be reasonable, not one that bans members that are disliked... you've already basically told me one step out of line and I'm gone. There seems to be a theme here, otium said he experienced something similar... its not your site.
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Post by benhomly on Jul 23, 2021 0:39:22 GMT 1
Posted on another thread that in and amongst all the fighting and insults there was some comedy gold but it’s all got a bit out of hand now hasn’t it.
Signed up to the new board out of curiosity but can’t see me going on there too much compared to this one as it’s just bitter and twisted at the moment. Maybe it’ll change but I doubt it.
Had a few spats with BigDaddyG myself but his treatment over the last 24 hours has been shocking. Wouldn’t blame him if he threw the towel in.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 23, 2021 0:42:02 GMT 1
Ive made my thoughts on the banning of otium perfectly clear and all the hypocrisy and double standards around it.
But putting someones home address out there on some forum is totally out of order on every level. Whoever did that needs to give their head a good fucking shake.
Im sure nothing will come of that grim, but you have my sympathies because that must be very unsettling.
As for starting boards for like minded people, doesn't that just defeat the object? What you want.. and what I want DATM to be ( which is why I am really pissed off at what happened to otium ) is a board where people with different opinions come together and debate them. So long as those opinions are legal and not promoting violence against anyone ( and like it or not Otiums views that he got banned for are actually very mainstream and held by many millions of people in this country ) then that is what a good board should be about.
We all get a bit arsey from time to time, but there's way too much toxic nastiness on this board lately. Some posters can't seem to make a post without insulting someone! And you take your share of the blame for that grim because as an admin and someone who sets and implements the rules, you should set some sort of standard and frankly you haven't.
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Post by Lard Buttie on Jul 23, 2021 0:46:10 GMT 1
Posted on another thread that in and amongst all the fighting and insults there was some comedy gold but it’s all got a bit out of hand now hasn’t it. Signed up to the new board out of curiosity but can’t see me going on there too much compared to this one as it’s just bitter and twisted at the moment. Maybe it’ll change but I doubt it. Had a few spats with BigDaddyG myself but his treatment over the last 24 hours has been shocking. Wouldn’t blame him if he threw the towel in. That is the last thing he and the other 2 admin should do. Checked the other forum out and expected what I read. It'll be defunct in a month or so. The reason this board had stood the test of time is cos it's a decent place. Unless we lose a game that is. Then we all (most of us) know to leave it alone for a few hours😁
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Post by sensible idiot on Jul 23, 2021 0:49:58 GMT 1
Had a look at the new site earlier today….. took 30 seconds to decide it’s not for me based on comments about homosexuality etc.
Now I read this thread and see that BDG’s address has been posted and I am appalled.
Don’t agree with him on loads of shite…..
BUT…. that is a total and utter c**** trick.
BDG… if they do come knocking and I’m in the area I’d stand with you to issue the ‘more than a yellow card’.
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Post by ritchie on Jul 23, 2021 0:53:17 GMT 1
This'll be the 'its okay to be homophobic' forum that ProBoards have no doubt cleared. I think it will last a long time because no one will report anyone else on it, because everyone is of the same opinion. Good luck everyone just remember being homophobic and racist online has consequences. Not been a far left loony does not make you a racist or homophobe ffs Nor does not being racist/homophobic make you a far left looney
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Post by townrwe on Jul 23, 2021 1:13:23 GMT 1
Ive made my thoughts on the banning of otium perfectly clear and all the hypocrisy and double standards around it. But putting someones home address out there on some forum is totally out of order on every level. Whoever did that needs to give their head a good fucking shake. Im sure nothing will come of that grim, but you have my sympathies because that must be very unsettling. As for starting boards for like minded people, doesn't that just defeat the object? What you want.. and what I want DATM to be ( which is why I am really pissed off at what happened to otium ) is a board where people with different opinions come together and debate them. So long as those opinions are legal and not promoting violence against anyone ( and like it or not Otiums views that he got banned for are actually very mainstream and held by many millions of people in this country ) then that is what a good board should be about. We all get a bit arsey from time to time, but there's way too much toxic nastiness on this board lately. Some posters can't seem to make a post without insulting someone! And you take your share of the blame for that grim because as an admin and someone who sets and implements the rules, you should set some sort of standard and frankly you haven't. Totally agree. Nothing wrong with this board just needs a shift in administration to make it fair and representative. The site is by the fans for the fans and you have to accept the diverse opinions and characters that 16000 people brings with it. If you line 16000 people up in their political persuasion then the far left and the far right will clash, if its not illegal then who really cares. If it gets daft chuck them off for 24hrs until they sober up. The major problem is you have posters like tedchips (sorry Ted, I like you like marmite really on toast) who get away with lefty leaning bullshit and then otium who gets ostracised for his right leaning bullshit (sorry otium no offence just making a point) So. 1.Rules need updating and bans need to take alot longer to ever get to life and it should be some serious harm. 2. Admin needs two from the other side on it. I actually think I'd do a good job as I'm literally as fair as they come... I even offered an olive to Grim, he told me jog the fuck on, but I still requested it was removed for him anyway. BUT I'm about as popular with the left side as Grim is with the right. I think they would accept two defectors but nobody put their hand up when I asked. 3. Have a poster amnesty. Bring back nick, moaner and otium. Have then on a two yellow warning before a rest of season ban from day one. Let's be honest non of them are any worse than Ted or that bloke that spams fuck me rigid everytime, just right not left. Needs sorting, it's not hard, I'll help and step down. I'll be admin until I can be replaced democratically with all positions up for grabs.
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Post by ritchie on Jul 23, 2021 1:16:13 GMT 1
Having read the full thread, what a fucking embarrassing set of cretins
its not abuse of an 'admin', its abuse of a town fan. something non of them would get away with around any town lads and lasses i know..they would rightfully be told to do one
and hopefully they do. absolute set of clowns and wont be missed
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Post by cheesyhtfc on Jul 23, 2021 1:28:11 GMT 1
Everyone posting on this forum is a Town fan. Those who become admins of the forum are doing so because they love the club, and they want to support the informal means by which fans can express a view. They do the best that they can, in the circumstances they are faced with. Unfortunately, the task is made more difficult by deliberately inflammatory attention seekers, who (because they are generally seen as entertaining posters) are given substantially more latitude than others. Posting home addresses of the admin (or any other member of the forum) is a disgrace, and those who do it should be ashamed of themselves, whether they do it on this forum or another. Shameful and cowardly.
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Post by Niggled on Jul 23, 2021 5:51:06 GMT 1
I might be about to sue for libel? Can I have your address please? It's not libellous. It's potentially defamation. Except to defend a comment such as this Ted simply has to stage he was posting his opinion and you'd have to prove he didn't believe it when he said it. Maybe you could tell Otium that the legal defence of Honest Opinion would see any case against me for calling him homophobic based on his description of gay people as "deviants" laughed out of any court in the land. If you hadn't banned him you could have told him your fukin self . Tell your mother to pass me the salt son . And I also think it is disgusting to post an address on an internet forum.
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Post by El Mel on Jul 23, 2021 6:28:57 GMT 1
All direct links to G's address now taken down. Apologies on behalf of "At The Mac" to anybody that has got upset about it.
Have a good day all.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 23, 2021 6:32:24 GMT 1
Strange times we live in. I think this sums it up well
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jul 23, 2021 6:58:58 GMT 1
All direct links to G's address now taken down. Apologies on behalf of "At The Mac" to anybody that has got upset about it. Have a good day all. 12 hours later once you’d sobered up? Pathetic.
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Post by Niggled on Jul 23, 2021 7:15:36 GMT 1
All direct links to G's address now taken down. Apologies on behalf of "At The Mac" to anybody that has got upset about it. Have a good day all. 12 hours later once you’d sobered up? Pathetic. Better late than never , he has obviously taken note of the LOTS of posts asking for it to be removed. Acting on members wishes. He could have just dug his heels in and ignored what most asked for.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 23, 2021 7:33:20 GMT 1
Yes, I told you to jog the fuck on. Why? Because you've spent the best part of the week stood by the fire pouring oil on, with a raging hard on while you're doing it.
Oti is a lot of things, but a deliberate agent provocateur just for his own kicks he is not. To come claiming to offer help to solve a problem you've played a significant role in creating is laughable.
So yeah, jog the fuck on.
As for your hopes of an "election"?
I've been on the Stand up circuit 3 years, have gigged with some of the funniest people this land has to offer and not one of them has a better joke to offer.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 23, 2021 7:35:56 GMT 1
Ive made my thoughts on the banning of otium perfectly clear and all the hypocrisy and double standards around it. But putting someones home address out there on some forum is totally out of order on every level. Whoever did that needs to give their head a good fucking shake. Im sure nothing will come of that grim, but you have my sympathies because that must be very unsettling. As for starting boards for like minded people, doesn't that just defeat the object? What you want.. and what I want DATM to be ( which is why I am really pissed off at what happened to otium ) is a board where people with different opinions come together and debate them. So long as those opinions are legal and not promoting violence against anyone ( and like it or not Otiums views that he got banned for are actually very mainstream and held by many millions of people in this country ) then that is what a good board should be about. We all get a bit arsey from time to time, but there's way too much toxic nastiness on this board lately. Some posters can't seem to make a post without insulting someone! And you take your share of the blame for that grim because as an admin and someone who sets and implements the rules, you should set some sort of standard and frankly you haven't. I agree with every sentiment, even those critical of me. Once this while debacle is over there needs to be some self reflection from everyone involved, myself included. This past few days has reflected a few posters in a bad light and, tbh, I would have perhaps expected you to align yourself with those lauding the new forum. That you haven't is a pleasant surprise and one for which I have developed a new respect for you.
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Post by townrwe on Jul 23, 2021 7:36:39 GMT 1
All direct links to G's address now taken down. Apologies on behalf of "At The Mac" to anybody that has got upset about it. Have a good day all. 12 hours later once you’d sobered up? Pathetic. At least he responded and stood up. I sent a private message to the whole of the current admin team on here, outlining the need for change as requested in rule one of what to do if you have complaint/suggestion on the forum rules and had nothing back, despite their rules saying that they would get back to me with their reasoning, not even a "jog the fuck on" for this one.... where are Kenny and ringdon? It does shine a light on the requirement of greater moderation across any forum, I would have pulled it down immediately. Too much left for too long on here too. Which was one of my aims as a new admin, to appoint moderators not censors.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jul 23, 2021 7:38:46 GMT 1
12 hours later once you’d sobered up? Pathetic. At least he responded and stood up. I sent a private message to the whole of the current admin team on here, outlining the need for change as requested in rule one of what to do if you have complaint/suggestion on the forum rules and had nothing back, despite their rules saying that they would get back to me with their reasoning, not even a "jog the fuck on" for this one.... where are Kenny and ringdon? It does shine a light on the requirement of greater moderation across any forum, I would have pulled it down immediately. Too much left for too long on here too. Which was one of my aims as a new admin, to appoint moderators not censors. I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again… Fuck off you utter prick.
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Post by townrwe on Jul 23, 2021 7:57:33 GMT 1
Yes, I told you to jog the fuck on. Why? Because you've spent the best part of the week stood by the fire pouring oil on, with a raging hard on while you're doing it. Oti is a lot of things, but a deliberate agent provocateur just for his own kicks he is not. To come claiming to offer help to solve a problem you've played a significant role in creating is laughable. So yeah, jog the fuck on. As for your hopes of an "election"? I've been on the Stand up circuit 3 years, have gigged with some of the funniest people this land has to offer and not one of them has a better joke to offer. And that there is why you should hang your coat up, The problem was there, still is there and one of the biggest problems would be evident when looking in the mirror. You say your posts are separate from your admin work, why is that different for me? I'm not abusive, you are, I offer reasoned argument, you offer very poor one liners, which may be funny in your head but not in the written form. What are you going to do about making the forum representative? How are you going to adapt the rules to be fair and promote reasonable free speech? If your so confident run the election yourselves, give democracy a go. Ask for representatives from the diverse community, I won't even stand if you find someone that represents me, we both know I'd finish top 3 in the current climate if there was an election and my name was on the list of 4. I feel sorry for you. At least you have has the balls to face the cameras, your "mates" have hung you out to dry, you've brought alot of it on yourself by trying to be clever shutting down posters with one liners but failed spectacularly.... If you misjudged this room so badly, ill make sure I avoid your in the mirror night with Grim.
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Post by El Mel on Jul 23, 2021 8:00:02 GMT 1
All direct links to G's address now taken down. Apologies on behalf of "At The Mac" to anybody that has got upset about it. Have a good day all. 12 hours later once you’d sobered up? Pathetic. I took them down because the original poster took his post down. No other reason.
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Post by townrwe on Jul 23, 2021 8:00:21 GMT 1
At least he responded and stood up. I sent a private message to the whole of the current admin team on here, outlining the need for change as requested in rule one of what to do if you have complaint/suggestion on the forum rules and had nothing back, despite their rules saying that they would get back to me with their reasoning, not even a "jog the fuck on" for this one.... where are Kenny and ringdon? It does shine a light on the requirement of greater moderation across any forum, I would have pulled it down immediately. Too much left for too long on here too. Which was one of my aims as a new admin, to appoint moderators not censors. I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again… Fuck off you utter prick. You've said it twice.... so I presume we will see you In a weeks time? Applying forum rules consistently that is.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jul 23, 2021 8:04:59 GMT 1
Yes, I told you to jog the fuck on. Why? Because you've spent the best part of the week stood by the fire pouring oil on, with a raging hard on while you're doing it. Oti is a lot of things, but a deliberate agent provocateur just for his own kicks he is not. To come claiming to offer help to solve a problem you've played a significant role in creating is laughable. So yeah, jog the fuck on. As for your hopes of an "election"? I've been on the Stand up circuit 3 years, have gigged with some of the funniest people this land has to offer and not one of them has a better joke to offer. And that there is why you should hang your coat up, The problem was there, still is there and one of the biggest problems would be evident when looking in the mirror. You say your posts are separate from your admin work, why is that different for me? I'm not abusive, you are, I offer reasoned argument, you offer very poor one liners, which may be funny in your head but not in the written form. What are you going to do about making the forum representative? How are you going to adapt the rules to be fair and promote reasonable free speech? If your so confident run the election yourselves, give democracy a go. Ask for representatives from the diverse community, I won't even stand if you find someone that represents me, we both know I'd finish top 3 in the current climate if there was an election and my name was on the list of 4. I feel sorry for you. At least you have has the balls to face the cameras, your "mates" have hung you out to dry, you've brought alot of it on yourself by trying to be clever shutting down posters with one liners but failed spectacularly.... If you misjudged this room so badly, ill make sure I avoid your in the mirror night with Grim. If it was a straight choice between you and Graeme, the latter would get 100% of everyone’s support. Then again, if it was you vs Rose West you’d probably still miss out. You’re more full of shit than Mel’s pyjama bottoms were when he sobered up and realised what he’d facilitated last night. Surely you have some semblance of a real life you could enjoy rather than this deluded character you play on here?
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