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Post by dm on Sept 20, 2021 15:49:25 GMT 1
This thread is amazing. We've had the lad 5 minutes, he's not started a game. He's played 12 minutes away at Stoke, 13 minutes in an already dead and buried game at Blackpool and 32 minutes on Saturday in an awful team performance and folk are on his case, calling him lazy and saying we've dodged a bullet by not signing him permanently, suggesting we terminate the loan. Absolutely fucking mental. And stuff like that sticks. The fuckwittery on here means that is an absolute fact now in some people's eyes.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 20, 2021 17:02:02 GMT 1
This thread is amazing. We've had the lad 5 minutes, he's not started a game. He's played 12 minutes away at Stoke, 13 minutes in an already dead and buried game at Blackpool and 32 minutes on Saturday in an awful team performance and folk are on his case, calling him lazy and saying we've dodged a bullet by not signing him permanently, suggesting we terminate the loan. Absolutely fucking mental. Tbf that was SuperKnowNowt that said that 😉
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 20, 2021 17:42:18 GMT 1
This thread is amazing. We've had the lad 5 minutes, he's not started a game. He's played 12 minutes away at Stoke, 13 minutes in an already dead and buried game at Blackpool and 32 minutes on Saturday in an awful team performance and folk are on his case, calling him lazy and saying we've dodged a bullet by not signing him permanently, suggesting we terminate the loan. Absolutely fucking mental. Tbf that was SuperKnowNowt that said that 😉 Incredible analysis of a player who’s not even started a game yet. Think the person you have mentioned should apply to become a panellist on Soccer Saturday.
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Post by detox on Sept 20, 2021 17:49:48 GMT 1
i thought the rule was that loan players play out of their skin until they become a permanent, then they play crap.. This guy hasn't read the rule book.....
Seriously though, he'll be being monitored at training sessions and won't start until all his stats are okay. he's just getting used to the pitch, the players, the tactics and all that other stuff newbies need to do when they arrive on loan. West Ham may well be instructing us on what we're allowed to do over the first month or so, who knows.. he must have some abilities if he's with a PL club, you'd think, and I'm sure these will be revealed when he's up to speed...and lots of the above posters will be eating humble pie (again)..
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 20, 2021 18:11:40 GMT 1
Think any striker playing for us at the moment would find it tough going, never mind a young kid getting his first tastes of first team football. The service up to the striker is pretty lousy. Even in the games we've played well, our front man has struggled to get involved that much.
We've scored quite a few goals in 8 games but how many have been from the striker?? 1 from 13 is it?
Like Ward, Campbell or whoever, this lads will have to work very hard in this team to make an impact. Keep making those runs, keep battling to hold it up. Thats why Im surprised CC keeps choosing Ward over Campbell to start. One thing Campbell is , is a grafter.
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Post by griffa on Sept 20, 2021 18:49:02 GMT 1
Just heard Matt Glennon talking about Mipo Odubeko, on Radio Beeston, what utter bollox he speaks! What an idiot he is, bring back Kieran!
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 20, 2021 18:52:48 GMT 1
Just heard Matt Glennon talking about Mipo Odubeko, on Radio Beeston, what utter bollox he speaks! What an idiot he is, bring back Kieron! What did he say?
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Post by bluebeard on Sept 20, 2021 19:24:34 GMT 1
How on earth can you judge someone for the time he was on the pitch in fact i wont be surprised if we don't play him more!! he will be back at West Ham in the new year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 19:49:39 GMT 1
By the time he’d come on, we’d resorted to that strategy of the centre halves coming as far as possible before trying to pick a pass. Sinani was looking for work and got dragged left and right rather than supporting the centre forward. Mipo looked to make three decent runs in behind that weren’t spotted. Thomas looked absolutely frustrated that his runs in behind were never spotted either.
It is so tough against an organised defence who hunted in packs and got back in immediately, meaning we had very little space. The Forest lads grew in stature with every repelled attack or loose ball. Saying that, if we had got one, I reckon they would have folded.
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Post by griffa on Sept 20, 2021 21:49:03 GMT 1
Just heard Matt Glennon talking about Mipo Odubeko, on Radio Beeston, what utter bollox he speaks! What an idiot he is, bring back Kieron! What did he say? Glennon was dismissing Mipo Odubeko, as not making an impact in the games he's played! Believe that to be 3 substitute appearances, totalling 59 minutes. 2 of those games, we lost, very difficult for a raw young lad to make an impact against seasoned pro's, let's face it no wonder against a back 5, that's why he joined us Glennon, to gain experience, give the lad a break!
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Post by griffa on Sept 20, 2021 21:57:15 GMT 1
By the time he’d come on, we’d resorted to that strategy of the centre halves coming as far as possible before trying to pick a pass. Sinani was looking for work and got dragged left and right rather than supporting the centre forward. Mipo looked to make three decent runs in behind that weren’t spotted. Thomas looked absolutely frustrated that his runs in behind were never spotted either. It is so tough against an organised defence who hunted in packs and got back in immediately, meaning we had very little space. The Forest lads grew in stature with every repelled attack or loose ball. Saying that, if we had got one, I reckon they would have folded. Excellent post shortdistancewalker, I'm old enough to remember Frank Worthington's early appearances in 1960's, he didn't look too good, he didn't turn out to be too bad, it's a big learning curve for a young striker, it's so easy to slag off a youngster like Mipo. Matt Glennon should know better, get off his back - UTT.
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Post by ldotm on Sept 20, 2021 21:59:59 GMT 1
Anyone remember a fella called Sorba Thomas? I recall a few writing him off last season, he’s not done bad as he.
Some fucking imbeciles on here.
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Post by benhomly on Sept 20, 2021 22:34:10 GMT 1
Glennon was dismissing Mipo Odubeko, as not making an impact in the games he's played! Believe that to be 3 substitute appearances, totalling 59 minutes. 2 of those games, we lost, very difficult for a raw young lad to make an impact against seasoned pro's, let's face it no wonder against a back 5, that's why he joined us Glennon, to gain experience, give the lad a break! For an ex professional Glennon is pretty clueless. He was criticising bringing on Turton at half time on Saturday saying that you don’t bring Turton on to try and change the game, therefore totally missing the point that Turton was brought on to change the formation hoping that that would change the game.
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Post by softboy on Sept 20, 2021 22:41:49 GMT 1
Anyone remember a fella called Sorba Thomas? I recall a few writing him off last season, he’s not done bad as he. Some fucking imbeciles on here. I was in Whetherspoons after the game and one halfwit was banging on about as soon as he won the "Player of the Month" award he lost interest and his performance on Saturday was a true reflection of his total lack of ability.
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Post by captainblack on Sept 21, 2021 8:52:20 GMT 1
This thread is amazing. We've had the lad 5 minutes, he's not started a game. He's played 12 minutes away at Stoke, 13 minutes in an already dead and buried game at Blackpool and 32 minutes on Saturday in an awful team performance and folk are on his case, calling him lazy and saying we've dodged a bullet by not signing him permanently, suggesting we terminate the loan. Absolutely fucking mental. I completely agree ,the young lad looks raw , but I would start him on Saturday , ahead of Ward and Campbell , he did get into a good position on Saturday and turned quickly , unfortunately he was blocked by the Forest defence . Its a massive move for this young lad , and possibly with a goal or two his confidence will be boosted. please , lets not write this young talent off just yet . I remember being in the old Town ground and folk were slagging off a young player making his first appearance as a sub for Town and saying he's never good enough! That player was Andy Booth! lets give Mipo some time to adjust to the life in the Championship, I have a feeling he is going to be real star ! lets see, shall we !
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Post by Amigo on Sept 21, 2021 9:31:18 GMT 1
Glennon was dismissing Mipo Odubeko, as not making an impact in the games he's played! Believe that to be 3 substitute appearances, totalling 59 minutes. 2 of those games, we lost, very difficult for a raw young lad to make an impact against seasoned pro's, let's face it no wonder against a back 5, that's why he joined us Glennon, to gain experience, give the lad a break! For an ex professional Glennon is pretty clueless. He was criticising bringing on Turton at half time on Saturday saying that you don’t bring Turton on to try and change the game, therefore totally missing the point that Turton was brought on to change the formation hoping that that would change the game. I'm always shocked when people say Glennon is a good listen and co-commentator, he's shite. Never sounds like an ex professional, I have noticed a lot of the time I've seen people saying how good he is to listen to is when he's being critical though so maybe there's something in that. To be picking out Mipo after the amount of time he's had so far in what is a difficult position to play in our side anyway is ridiculous, as is not understanding bringing on a right back to play at right back rather than a centre back.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Sept 21, 2021 9:42:57 GMT 1
Knee jerking and scapegoating will always happen after a defeat like night follows day. We just move on and hope the team clicks better in the next game, season's barely got going.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 11:17:08 GMT 1
Anyone remember a fella called Sorba Thomas? I recall a few writing him off last season, he’s not done bad as he. Some fucking imbeciles on here. Or maybe those people last season were simply calling it as it was...it was a big step up and he wasn't very effective. He gained some experience, worked hard over summer and seemingly has the right mind set that he's been able to change that, and now he's effective and would be one of the first names on the team sheet. Why are people imbeciles for that?? The only imbeciles are those that might have decided last season he was shit and can't change/adapt their opinion based on what they see and are still saying he is (but I can't imagine there's ANYONE who fits that description). The other imbeciles, which are obviously in a greater number, are those that for some reason don't acknowledge that its possible to change an opinion over time 🤷♂️
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Post by bluesandtwos on Sept 21, 2021 11:23:05 GMT 1
Anyone remember a fella called Sorba Thomas? I recall a few writing him off last season, he’s not done bad as he. Some fucking imbeciles on here. I was in Whetherspoons after the game and one halfwit was banging on about as soon as he won the "Player of the Month" award he lost interest and his performance on Saturday was a true reflection of his total lack of ability. Serves you right for drinking in Wetherspoons 😉
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Post by bluesandtwos on Sept 21, 2021 11:24:55 GMT 1
Anyone remember a fella called Sorba Thomas? I recall a few writing him off last season, he’s not done bad as he. Some fucking imbeciles on here. Or maybe those people last season were simply calling it as it was...it was a big step up and he wasn't very effective. He gained some experience, worked hard over summer and seemingly has the right mind set that he's been able to change that, and now he's effective and would be one of the first names on the team sheet. Why are people imbeciles for that?? The only imbeciles are those that might have decided last season he was shit and can't change/adapt their opinion based on what they see and are still saying he is (but I can't imagine there's ANYONE who fits that description). The other imbeciles, which are obviously in a greater number, are those that for some reason don't acknowledge that its possible to change an opinion over time 🤷♂️ I think the implication is they were making the call too soon, not that there is a problem people changing their minds.
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Post by upthetown on Sept 21, 2021 11:35:14 GMT 1
Would have liked to have seen him upfront with Campbell, with Sorba and Koroma out wide for the last 30 mins last Saturday.
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Post by ldotm on Sept 21, 2021 12:01:43 GMT 1
Anyone remember a fella called Sorba Thomas? I recall a few writing him off last season, he’s not done bad as he. Some fucking imbeciles on here. Or maybe those people last season were simply calling it as it was...it was a big step up and he wasn't very effective. He gained some experience, worked hard over summer and seemingly has the right mind set that he's been able to change that, and now he's effective and would be one of the first names on the team sheet. Why are people imbeciles for that?? The only imbeciles are those that might have decided last season he was shit and can't change/adapt their opinion based on what they see and are still saying he is (but I can't imagine there's ANYONE who fits that description). The other imbeciles, which are obviously in a greater number, are those that for some reason don't acknowledge that its possible to change an opinion over time 🤷♂️ The imbeciles I’m referring to are ones stating it’s a good job we didn’t buy him on a permanent or he’s just not good enough. By all means say he’s not stood out or had an impact yet but people are completely writing him off already as a poor purchase, just like they did with Sorba. So yeah there are people that fit that description, read SuperNoFuckAll’s post for one.
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Post by cyberman on Sept 21, 2021 12:12:06 GMT 1
This thread is amazing. We've had the lad 5 minutes, he's not started a game. He's played 12 minutes away at Stoke, 13 minutes in an already dead and buried game at Blackpool and 32 minutes on Saturday in an awful team performance and folk are on his case, calling him lazy and saying we've dodged a bullet by not signing him permanently, suggesting we terminate the loan. Absolutely fucking mental. I completely agree ,the young lad looks raw , but I would start him on Saturday , ahead of Ward and Campbell , he did get into a good position on Saturday and turned quickly , unfortunately he was blocked by the Forest defence . Its a massive move for this young lad , and possibly with a goal or two his confidence will be boosted. please , lets not write this young talent off just yet . I remember being in the old Town ground and folk were slagging off a young player making his first appearance as a sub for Town and saying he's never good enough! That player was Andy Booth! lets give Mipo some time to adjust to the life in the Championship, I have a feeling he is going to be real star ! lets see, shall we ! Lets not bother even playing WARD - or bring back Boothy on a pay per game......far fucking cheaper option !
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 21, 2021 12:13:08 GMT 1
Glennon was dismissing Mipo Odubeko, as not making an impact in the games he's played! Believe that to be 3 substitute appearances, totalling 59 minutes. 2 of those games, we lost, very difficult for a raw young lad to make an impact against seasoned pro's, let's face it no wonder against a back 5, that's why he joined us Glennon, to gain experience, give the lad a break! But the prick thinks Schofield should be first choice keeper too 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 12:19:23 GMT 1
Or maybe those people last season were simply calling it as it was...it was a big step up and he wasn't very effective. He gained some experience, worked hard over summer and seemingly has the right mind set that he's been able to change that, and now he's effective and would be one of the first names on the team sheet. Why are people imbeciles for that?? The only imbeciles are those that might have decided last season he was shit and can't change/adapt their opinion based on what they see and are still saying he is (but I can't imagine there's ANYONE who fits that description). The other imbeciles, which are obviously in a greater number, are those that for some reason don't acknowledge that its possible to change an opinion over time 🤷♂️ The imbeciles I’m referring to are ones stating it’s a good job we didn’t buy him on a permanent or he’s just not good enough. By all means say he’s not stood out or had an impact yet but people are completely writing him off already as a poor purchase, just like they did with Sorba. So yeah there are people that fit that description, read SuperNoFuckAll’s post for one. As things stand, with the (limited) evidence we've seen, it IS currently a good job we didn't buy him on a permanent. Hopefully that will change...and I'm sure your imbeciles would change their mind if he steps up a level as the season progresses and bangs in 10-15 goals. I hope that is the case...but my current gut feeling (based on the limited evidence) is that he's not really good enough for mens football yet, we're maybe 6 months to a year too early to see him make a real impact.
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Post by griffa on Sept 21, 2021 12:30:07 GMT 1
The imbeciles I’m referring to are ones stating it’s a good job we didn’t buy him on a permanent or he’s just not good enough. By all means say he’s not stood out or had an impact yet but people are completely writing him off already as a poor purchase, just like they did with Sorba. So yeah there are people that fit that description, read SuperNoFuckAll’s post for one. As things stand, with the (limited) evidence we've seen, it IS currently a good job we didn't buy him on a permanent. Hopefully that will change...and I'm sure your imbeciles would change their mind if he steps up a level as the season progresses and bangs in 10-15 goals. I hope that is the case...but my current gut feeling (based on the limited evidence) is that he's not really good enough for mens football yet, we're maybe 6 months to a year too early to see him make a real impact. After 59 minutes on the field, you're binning him! Wow you must be some judge, surprised you're not Man City's Chief Scout! Very early days, he's raw. He'd benefit from playing alongside an experienced player, such Frazier Campbell - UTT.
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Post by Mr Breitside on Sept 21, 2021 12:47:17 GMT 1
Just heard Matt Glennon talking about Mipo Odubeko, on Radio Beeston, what utter bollox he speaks! What an idiot he is, bring back Kieran! He does talk shit. He said schofield had to start the season as no.1.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Sept 21, 2021 12:53:05 GMT 1
It's ironic, that those who are slagging him off now, will be singing his name when he scores.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 14:19:41 GMT 1
As things stand, with the (limited) evidence we've seen, it IS currently a good job we didn't buy him on a permanent. Hopefully that will change...and I'm sure your imbeciles would change their mind if he steps up a level as the season progresses and bangs in 10-15 goals. I hope that is the case...but my current gut feeling (based on the limited evidence) is that he's not really good enough for mens football yet, we're maybe 6 months to a year too early to see him make a real impact. After 59 minutes on the field, you're binning him! No. I'm not. I've tried to be as clear as possible, as those who are afraid of saying what they see don't seem to like it, all I'm saying is....on the limited exposure we've had of him so far (which is ALL we can measure him by), he hasn't really looked good enough, and based on just that evidence, nobody with any sense at this time would say, "oh, he's a player who is going places, great to see we have tried to make him a Town player". I hope that as he gets more minutes, he demonstrates some of the qualities that put him on our radar, and I hope that the impression gained from the limited exposure and evidence we've had so far, is not a refined or accurate impression, and that he improves and contributes much quicker. What specifically do you disagree with? Do you think he's been brilliant?? Its very easy to judge footballers on limited minutes, as long as you acknowledge to yourself thats what you're doing, and it might not be wholly accurate as things pan out. What do you want to do, wait until every player has got 60 games under their belts before you can say anything positive or negative about their qualities?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 14:24:34 GMT 1
It's ironic, that those who are slagging him off now, will be singing his name when he scores. Whats ironic about acknowledging someone currently not contributing, and then subsequently cheering when they hopefully do in the future?! Thats the polar opposite of irony. It would be irony if people booed Sorba Thomas now, because he was poor last season, just as some people boo Duane Holmes or Danny Ward, when they are contributing effectively to the game plan, because they've historically decided they're not good enough and can't evolve their opinion.
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