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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2022 13:03:05 GMT 1
With hindsight yes, but he looked a prospect. The U23 highlights reels looked as impressive as Colwills.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 4, 2022 13:34:55 GMT 1
He’s very highly rated, on the fringes of a good PL team and has very good pedigree. There was a lot of excitement on here when we picked him up. Hardly a waste of a loan, it just didn’t work out because he isn’t ready for our level yet.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 4, 2022 13:38:31 GMT 1
With hindsight yes, but he looked a prospect. The U23 highlights reels looked as impressive as Colwills. hindsight is the only way you can look at things like this sadly. I wonder if we'll be luckier with whoever we bring in next...
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jan 4, 2022 14:02:24 GMT 1
Clearly the club were interested in a permanent move for him originally, I wonder if he became available on a free that having seen him at close quarters we'd consider signing him up as a prospect for the B team. He wasn't ready for our first team right now, but that's not to say he can't or won't become a quality striker with a bit more exposure and development.
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 4, 2022 14:34:22 GMT 1
Be a real waste if we don't at least try to bring in another striker ASAP.. Why? We have Ward, Rhodes & Campbell all fighting for 1 space in the first XI, with Harratt scoring goals for fun in the B team & Phillips to return from Walsall in the summer. I'm not averse to us bringing in a striker - after central midfield that's the place I'd look to strengthen - but ASAP suggests an urgency to replace Mipo that I just don't think is warranted.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 4, 2022 14:50:25 GMT 1
Be a real waste if we don't at least try to bring in another striker ASAP.. Why? We have Ward, Rhodes & Campbell all fighting for 1 space in the first XI, with Harratt scoring goals for fun in the B team & Phillips to return from Walsall in the summer. I'm not averse to us bringing in a striker - after central midfield that's the place I'd look to strengthen - but ASAP suggests an urgency to replace Mipo that I just don't think is warranted. I'm looking for pace up front. We have none. Agreed a midfielder is a definite requirement, as our ball player looks as though he might be out for too long. Defensively we are doing OK.. We lack pace up front, even as an option.. We lack a real physical presence up front even as an option but I would prefer genuine pace due to how we play.
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Post by runner76 on Jan 4, 2022 15:03:21 GMT 1
Bournemouth - 3 / 31 Fulham - 2 / 26 QPR - 3 / 18 Blackburn - 1 / 20 West Brom - 1 / 9 Huddersfield - 1 / 7
That is amount of players in Top Championship scorers (6+ goals) and total goals.
Do we need a new striker? Well, looking at the data, we could retain a Top 6 spot with the current setup, but if not a striker then definitely a midfielder who can pop a few in.......
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 4, 2022 15:59:16 GMT 1
Bournemouth - 3 / 31 Fulham - 2 / 26 QPR - 3 / 18 Blackburn - 1 / 20 West Brom - 1 / 9 Huddersfield - 1 / 7 That is amount of players in Top Championship scorers (6+ goals) and total goals. Do we need a new striker? Well, looking at the data, we could retain a Top 6 spot with the current setup, but if not a striker then definitely a midfielder who can pop a few in....... Just like an option of real genuine pace. See wolves last 20 minutes yesterday. OK he does not score enough but his pace and physicality changes the oppositions set up everytime. In games where we don't have to score again the outlet ball or percentage ball to some real pace to get us up the pitch would be priceless..?
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Post by runner76 on Jan 4, 2022 16:33:47 GMT 1
Bournemouth - 3 / 31 Fulham - 2 / 26 QPR - 3 / 18 Blackburn - 1 / 20 West Brom - 1 / 9 Huddersfield - 1 / 7 That is amount of players in Top Championship scorers (6+ goals) and total goals. Do we need a new striker? Well, looking at the data, we could retain a Top 6 spot with the current setup, but if not a striker then definitely a midfielder who can pop a few in....... Just like an option of real genuine pace. See wolves last 20 minutes yesterday. OK he does not score enough but his pace and physicality changes the oppositions set up everytime. In games where we don't have to score again the outlet ball or percentage ball to some real pace to get us up the pitch would be priceless..? Can't disagree.....but then it's also what every club is after!...
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Post by harris on Jan 4, 2022 16:54:48 GMT 1
Bournemouth - 3 / 31 Fulham - 2 / 26 QPR - 3 / 18 Blackburn - 1 / 20 West Brom - 1 / 9 Huddersfield - 1 / 7 That is amount of players in Top Championship scorers (6+ goals) and total goals. Do we need a new striker? Well, looking at the data, we could retain a Top 6 spot with the current setup, but if not a striker then definitely a midfielder who can pop a few in....... Just like an option of real genuine pace. See wolves last 20 minutes yesterday. OK he does not score enough but his pace and physicality changes the oppositions set up everytime. In games where we don't have to score again the outlet ball or percentage ball to some real pace to get us up the pitch would be priceless..? I know a young lad by the name of Adama Diakhaby who has some pace, might be worth a look?
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Post by sykeylad on Jan 4, 2022 18:03:05 GMT 1
Be a real waste if we don't at least try to bring in another striker ASAP.. Why? We have Ward, Rhodes & Campbell all fighting for 1 space in the first XI, with Harratt scoring goals for fun in the B team & Phillips to return from Walsall in the summer. I'm not averse to us bringing in a striker - after central midfield that's the place I'd look to strengthen - but ASAP suggests an urgency to replace Mipo that I just don't think is warranted. 100%. Not to mention Koroma, who has pace too.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 4, 2022 18:03:45 GMT 1
Just like an option of real genuine pace. See wolves last 20 minutes yesterday. OK he does not score enough but his pace and physicality changes the oppositions set up everytime. In games where we don't have to score again the outlet ball or percentage ball to some real pace to get us up the pitch would be priceless..? I know a young lad by the name of Adama Diakhaby who has some pace, might be worth a look? Diakhaby left on the halfway line rather than being brought back deep to pretend to defend might have proved more worthwhile.? Opposition have to leave 2 back and have to play for his pace.? Rather than playing our way out and gifting shedloads of goals it may have been a better option? Like I said, it's an option we don't possess at all at the moment. Truth is we do score enough but need options to hold a lead and lessen the pressure we invariably bring on ourselves. Squad needs options, each area needs options, it's a 14 man game and 90 minutes of zero different options is a long time.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 4, 2022 18:10:16 GMT 1
Just like an option of real genuine pace. See wolves last 20 minutes yesterday. OK he does not score enough but his pace and physicality changes the oppositions set up everytime. In games where we don't have to score again the outlet ball or percentage ball to some real pace to get us up the pitch would be priceless..? Can't disagree.....but then it's also what every club is after!... Not looking for a goal scoring front player with genuine pace, everyone wants them. Just real pace to get this team up the pitch at various times in games. Real pace can dictate how opponents set up and play which really does not happen against us. The dropping off and everyone coming back isn't a helpful tactic as we saw against Coventry with their centre backs appearing deep in our half during open play?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2022 18:31:36 GMT 1
Why? We have Ward, Rhodes & Campbell all fighting for 1 space in the first XI, with Harratt scoring goals for fun in the B team & Phillips to return from Walsall in the summer. I'm not averse to us bringing in a striker - after central midfield that's the place I'd look to strengthen - but ASAP suggests an urgency to replace Mipo that I just don't think is warranted. 100%. Not to mention Koroma, who has pace too. Has he ? shame he rarely shows it
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 4, 2022 21:03:33 GMT 1
Diakhaby is the perfect answer to anyone suggesting that pace is everything, but I do get Galph's point.
I accept that there is definitely room for somebody with ridiculous pace in the squad & after the creative central midfielder role, a striker is probably a higher priority role to fill than most others (there are rumours about wingers coming in & I can't see the sense unless there's a brilliant deal to be done). I don't get the urgency though.
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 4, 2022 21:36:06 GMT 1
Be a real waste if we don't at least try to bring in another striker ASAP.. Why? We have Ward, Rhodes & Campbell all fighting for 1 space in the first XI, with Harratt scoring goals for fun in the B team & Phillips to return from Walsall in the summer. I'm not averse to us bringing in a striker - after central midfield that's the place I'd look to strengthen - but ASAP suggests an urgency to replace Mipo that I just don't think is warranted. Campbell is shot, Rhodes is injury prone and so is Ward. None of the three are prolific goalscorers either. Harratt and Phillips are too young and untried to be relying on so I would say that if we want to finish in the play offs a striker is urgent. I would also say 2 CMs and another winger should also be high on the agenda
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 4, 2022 21:55:27 GMT 1
Diakhaby is the perfect answer to anyone suggesting that pace is everything, but I do get Galph's point. I accept that there is definitely room for somebody with ridiculous pace in the squad & after the creative central midfielder role, a striker is probably a higher priority role to fill than most others (there are rumours about wingers coming in & I can't see the sense unless there's a brilliant deal to be done). I don't get the urgency though. We win the vast majority of our points by very fine margins. Our ability to have the opposition change what they do to negate us is pretty marginal most of the time. What we are missing that is hard to plan for and harder to deal with is a real pacey player going forward. We do end up in most of the games we win, defending pretty deep and other than clearances to nobody or dangerously trying to play our way out, we miss the option of somebody chasing the clearance or running it out at pace. If we accept its going to be more fine margin wins than anything else, one specialist signing, loan etc Might well be worthwhile? Our own 'special teams' play? If not then please God we leave a player up the pitch at all times and give ourselves the chance of an outlet and give the opposition something to cover rather than them camping deep in our half?
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Post by mightyterrier on Jan 4, 2022 21:56:17 GMT 1
Can't disagree.....but then it's also what every club is after!... Not looking for a goal scoring front player with genuine pace, everyone wants them. Just real pace to get this team up the pitch at various times in games. Real pace can dictate how opponents set up and play which really does not happen against us. The dropping off and everyone coming back isn't a helpful tactic as we saw against Coventry with their centre backs appearing deep in our half during open play? A la VLP?
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 4, 2022 22:02:21 GMT 1
Diakhaby is the perfect answer to anyone suggesting that pace is everything, but I do get Galph's point. I accept that there is definitely room for somebody with ridiculous pace in the squad & after the creative central midfielder role, a striker is probably a higher priority role to fill than most others (there are rumours about wingers coming in & I can't see the sense unless there's a brilliant deal to be done). I don't get the urgency though. We win the vast majority of our points by very fine margins. Our ability to have the opposition change what they do to negate us is pretty marginal most of the time. What we are missing that is hard to plan for and harder to deal with is a real pacey player going forward. We do end up in most of the games we win, defending pretty deep and other than clearances to nobody or dangerously trying to play our way out, we miss the option of somebody chasing the clearance or running it out at pace. If we accept its going to be more fine margin wins than anything else, one specialist signing, loan etc Might well be worthwhile? Our own 'special teams' play? If not then please God we leave a player up the pitch at all times and give ourselves the chance of an outlet and give the opposition something to cover rather than them camping deep in our half? I think we're broadly on the same page, particularly with oppositions needing to change very little about their preparation regardless of who we put out on the day. Like you say, it's the "hard to plan for" option that would push us on to the next level. I thik te only difference is that you see that more as a striker, I see it more as a midfielder, but the end goal is the same.
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Post by orinoco on Jan 4, 2022 22:03:11 GMT 1
Why? We have Ward, Rhodes & Campbell all fighting for 1 space in the first XI, with Harratt scoring goals for fun in the B team & Phillips to return from Walsall in the summer. I'm not averse to us bringing in a striker - after central midfield that's the place I'd look to strengthen - but ASAP suggests an urgency to replace Mipo that I just don't think is warranted. Campbell is shot, Rhodes is injury prone and so is Ward. None of the three are prolific goalscorers either. Harratt and Phillips are too young and untried to be relying on so I would say that if we want to finish in the play offs a striker is urgent. I would also say 2 CMs and another winger should also be high on the agenda I would say that is a fair summary, they are injury prone, we will just have to wait and see, be glad when this window is done and dusted.
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Post by Champers on Jan 5, 2022 10:38:16 GMT 1
Thank you for everything, Mipo. Was a pleasure to watch you play. You're right up there with Des Hamilton and Diego Arismendi in the loanee Hall of Fame.
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Post by impact on Jan 5, 2022 11:58:22 GMT 1
Be a real waste if we don't at least try to bring in another striker ASAP.. Why? We have Ward, Rhodes & Campbell all fighting for 1 space in the first XI, with Harratt scoring goals for fun in the B team & Phillips to return from Walsall in the summer. I'm not averse to us bringing in a striker - after central midfield that's the place I'd look to strengthen - but ASAP suggests an urgency to replace Mipo that I just don't think is warranted. Ward is injury prone and Rhodes is the only alternative. Campbell is over the hill now IMO. Harratt is an option but a relative unknown. Midfield is clearly the priority but I think we could do with another attacker, ideally a loan.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 5, 2022 13:21:17 GMT 1
Why? We have Ward, Rhodes & Campbell all fighting for 1 space in the first XI, with Harratt scoring goals for fun in the B team & Phillips to return from Walsall in the summer. I'm not averse to us bringing in a striker - after central midfield that's the place I'd look to strengthen - but ASAP suggests an urgency to replace Mipo that I just don't think is warranted. I'm looking for pace up front. We have none. Agreed a midfielder is a definite requirement, as our ball player looks as though he might be out for too long. Defensively we are doing OK.. We lack pace up front, even as an option.. We lack a real physical presence up front even as an option but I would prefer genuine pace due to how we play. Who's the ball player that's out too long ? I can only think of our glass Spaniard who's not played enough to be considered as our ball player, surely. Plus if/when all our midfielders were/are fit he usually only makes the bench.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 5, 2022 13:24:39 GMT 1
I'm looking for pace up front. We have none. Agreed a midfielder is a definite requirement, as our ball player looks as though he might be out for too long. Defensively we are doing OK.. We lack pace up front, even as an option.. We lack a real physical presence up front even as an option but I would prefer genuine pace due to how we play. Who's the ball player that's out too long ? I can only think of our glass Spaniard who's not played enough to be considered as our ball player, surely. Plus if/when all our midfielders were/are fit he usually only makes the bench. He has the extra second on the ball, he plays on the turn and plays forward. Yes he is our ball player, his fitness is the issue. I have seen him play enough.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 5, 2022 13:26:05 GMT 1
Who's the ball player that's out too long ? I can only think of our glass Spaniard who's not played enough to be considered as our ball player, surely. Plus if/when all our midfielders were/are fit he usually only makes the bench. He has the extra second on the ball, he plays on the turn and plays forward. Yes he is our ball player, his fitness is the issue. I have seen him play enough. So has CC and he barely gave him a start
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 5, 2022 15:22:18 GMT 1
He has the extra second on the ball, he plays on the turn and plays forward. Yes he is our ball player, his fitness is the issue. I have seen him play enough. So has CC and he barely gave him a start Different situation now, we are not only looking to keep the ball for as long as is humanly possible and trying and sneak something. We might even start to play quicker through midfield..? Horses for courses.
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Post by rockwall on Jan 5, 2022 16:14:21 GMT 1
Any scouts out there, we need to find the next Pilks!
Pace and strength with a bit of height too. Surely there is someone in the lower leagues a la Thomas, who can come in straight away.
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Post by bluestripe on Jan 5, 2022 20:20:09 GMT 1
Thank you for everything, Mipo. Was a pleasure to watch you play. You're right up there with Des Hamilton and Diego Arismendi in the loanee Hall of Fame. Don't forget David Edgar, Lukas Jutkiewicz, Elvis Manu!
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