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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 16, 2021 20:31:37 GMT 1
They're a deluded lot for expecting Cooper would give them the time of day, he did an excellent job under actually quite difficult circumstances at Swansea that don't get factored in in the discussion of him. His next job will be in the premier league or a team aiming to get there in short order, and he can afford to bide his time about it. Forest are a shitshow and need to clean themselves up before any of the potential managers their fans think they're entitled to will even consider them
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Post by htfctx on Sept 16, 2021 20:55:27 GMT 1
They're a deluded lot for expecting Cooper would give them the time of day, he did an excellent job under actually quite difficult circumstances at Swansea that don't get factored in in the discussion of him. His next job will be in the premier league or a team aiming to get there in short order, and he can afford to bide his time about it. Forest are a shitshow and need to clean themselves up before any of the potential managers their fans think they're entitled to will even consider them Or they get a complete newbie, wanting any job, like John Terry or in Derby's case, Shrek.
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Post by Ox Terrier on Sept 16, 2021 22:39:45 GMT 1
Forest are on the look out for their 42nd manager in 2 years. They might put up a sterner test than they might have done if Hughton had remained but I still expect Town to win this, be disappointed if we don't. Stick a tenner on Pearson anytime scorer, he'll hit double figures at this rate. I had a cheeky bet on Pearson at 9/1 (and LOB) plus a 0-3 away win at 33/1 (singles) on Tuesday. I had money on Toffolo at 18/1 last Saturday too. Only very small bets. I was on the edge of my seat hovering over the cash out button from the moment the third goal went in! I managed to hang on in there.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 16, 2021 22:50:10 GMT 1
Rarely been as confident of a win, stranger things have happened though.
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Post by benhomly on Sept 16, 2021 22:59:44 GMT 1
I agree, his credentials speak for themselves. Not sure Forest have the financial resources he would want. Swansea didn’t. Chris Hughton’s record spoke for itself too. Can’t figure out what has gone wrong for Forest under his tenure. A good manager doesn’t just go bad overnight. He’ll bounce back and be successful again. I remember looking on with envy when Forest appointed him. Forest will never achieve anything again until they accept they are a run of the mill club trading on past glories who are at their correct level. They are well supported but the expectation there is completely unrealistic, they attract players who think they’re better than they are and pay them too much. They could really do with being relegated for their own sakes and building from a lower point. Shef Weds are exactly the same (and it looks like they might be getting momentum back following relegation) and Derby are the same too. I’d think twice about taking that job as a motivational speaker if I were you looking at that first paragraph. Not sure how accepting you are a run of the mill club who are at their correct level will ever help you achieve anything ever again 😊
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 16, 2021 23:09:54 GMT 1
Forest will never achieve anything again until they accept they are a run of the mill club trading on past glories who are at their correct level. They are well supported but the expectation there is completely unrealistic, they attract players who think they’re better than they are and pay them too much. They could really do with being relegated for their own sakes and building from a lower point. Shef Weds are exactly the same (and it looks like they might be getting momentum back following relegation) and Derby are the same too. I’d think twice about taking that job as a motivational speaker if I were you looking at that first paragraph. Not sure how accepting you are a run of the mill club who are at their correct level will ever help you achieve anything ever again 😊 Ha, what I mean is there’s doesn’t appear (at least from the outside) any acceptance from their fans or anyone in the club that they are a lower league club and have been for 20 years. They need a massive re-set IMO.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Sept 16, 2021 23:23:24 GMT 1
Big crowd expected at the JSS Forest without a manager What can possibly go wrong?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 16, 2021 23:51:43 GMT 1
I agree, his credentials speak for themselves. Not sure Forest have the financial resources he would want. Swansea didn’t. Chris Hughton’s record spoke for itself too. Can’t figure out what has gone wrong for Forest under his tenure. A good manager doesn’t just go bad overnight. He’ll bounce back and be successful again. I remember looking on with envy when Forest appointed him. Forest will never achieve anything again until they accept they are a run of the mill club trading on past glories who are at their correct level. They are well supported but the expectation there is completely unrealistic, they attract players who think they’re better than they are and pay them too much. They could really do with being relegated for their own sakes and building from a lower point. Shef Weds are exactly the same (and it looks like they might be getting momentum back following relegation) and Derby are the same too. No. There is no comparison between them and Sheffield Wednesday. Personally, if the club I supported had won the title and European Cup , I’d have expectations as well.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 17, 2021 0:34:50 GMT 1
Forest will never achieve anything again until they accept they are a run of the mill club trading on past glories who are at their correct level. They are well supported but the expectation there is completely unrealistic, they attract players who think they’re better than they are and pay them too much. They could really do with being relegated for their own sakes and building from a lower point. Shef Weds are exactly the same (and it looks like they might be getting momentum back following relegation) and Derby are the same too. No. There is no comparison between them and Sheffield Wednesday. Personally, if the club I supported had won the title and European Cup , I’d have expectations as well. You’d be surprised how similar they are, all time honours Forest are slightly ahead en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_England_by_competitive_honours_won league wise Wednesday are well ahead.
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Post by golcarexile on Sept 17, 2021 5:39:26 GMT 1
Wednesday's 4 league titles were donkey's years ago, much like our 3. Doubt if there's anyone alive still who remembers the last one in 1930. Forest enjoyed success much more recently. That kind of fall from grace must hurt. It's no wonder their fans are somewhat deluded. No doubt despite them being bottom, their forum will be full of nobbers claiming that they should be beating the likes of Huddersfield. I hope we thrash them.
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Post by HTAFC Darren on Sept 17, 2021 6:40:03 GMT 1
Big crowd expected at the JSS Forest without a manager What can possibly go wrong? Last season I would be worrying, but this season im going for a solid 2-0
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Post by Metch on Sept 17, 2021 7:02:05 GMT 1
This season I am confident we won't lose this one but Forest will battle and be fighting for their shirts so I wouldn't be surprised if it's a draw. To be disappointed with that result will show the progress we've made.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 17, 2021 7:18:06 GMT 1
Forest will never achieve anything again until they accept they are a run of the mill club trading on past glories who are at their correct level. They are well supported but the expectation there is completely unrealistic, they attract players who think they’re better than they are and pay them too much. They could really do with being relegated for their own sakes and building from a lower point. Shef Weds are exactly the same (and it looks like they might be getting momentum back following relegation) and Derby are the same too. No. There is no comparison between them and Sheffield Wednesday. Personally, if the club I supported had won the title and European Cup , I’d have expectations as well. You wouldn't think those 3 seasons, over 40 years ago, were an anomaly compared to the rest of their history
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Sept 17, 2021 7:18:58 GMT 1
This is great, people looking forward to the game. Discussion, analysing & banter some positive some cautious. Hopefully big noisy crowd, if the Forest players don't react to this quick change their fans certainly will. We're competing in the Championship again & it feels good. Bring it on. UTFT
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Post by 28901 on Sept 17, 2021 7:47:36 GMT 1
I’d think twice about taking that job as a motivational speaker if I were you looking at that first paragraph. Not sure how accepting you are a run of the mill club who are at their correct level will ever help you achieve anything ever again 😊 Ha, what I mean is there’s doesn’t appear (at least from the outside) any acceptance from their fans or anyone in the club that they are a lower league club and have been for 20 years. They need a massive re-set IMO. Before Clough era they spent many years as a second division outfit. They had a great spell in the sun which is rapidly fading into history. It's becoming about as relevant as Towns glory years in the 20s as there becomes fewer people around who actually witnessed it.
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Post by sociallydistant on Sept 17, 2021 8:39:21 GMT 1
I agree, his credentials speak for themselves. Not sure Forest have the financial resources he would want. Swansea didn’t. Chris Hughton’s record spoke for itself too. Can’t figure out what has gone wrong for Forest under his tenure. A good manager doesn’t just go bad overnight. He’ll bounce back and be successful again. I remember looking on with envy when Forest appointed him. Forest will never achieve anything again until they accept they are a run of the mill club trading on past glories who are at their correct level. They are well supported but the expectation there is completely unrealistic, they attract players who think they’re better than they are and pay them too much. They could really do with being relegated for their own sakes and building from a lower point. Shef Weds are exactly the same (and it looks like they might be getting momentum back following relegation) and Derby are the same too. Consecutive defeats at the mighty Morecambe and Plymouth suggest SWFCs honeymoon period in L1 is over.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Sept 17, 2021 8:43:41 GMT 1
Forest will never achieve anything again until they accept they are a run of the mill club trading on past glories who are at their correct level. They are well supported but the expectation there is completely unrealistic, they attract players who think they’re better than they are and pay them too much. They could really do with being relegated for their own sakes and building from a lower point. Shef Weds are exactly the same (and it looks like they might be getting momentum back following relegation) and Derby are the same too. No. There is no comparison between them and Sheffield Wednesday. Personally, if the club I supported had won the title and European Cup , I’d have expectations as well. But Forest's big wins were over 40 years ago - before a large percentage of their fans were even born. I'm not suggesting that they ignore their history but there comes a point where you have to be realistic and realise those years aren't coming back - not in the foreseeable future at least. They might get decent size crowds but their fans should accept that they are just another championship club spending beyond their means to try and reach the promised land.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Sept 17, 2021 8:44:28 GMT 1
We surely should have learned by now never to take anything for granted in this league, for example I was expecting us to hammer Wycombe last season.
Forest will turn the corner at some point, but hopefully not yet. 2-0 Town.
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Post by alexdire on Sept 17, 2021 8:45:01 GMT 1
Forest are on the look out for their 42nd manager in 2 years. They might put up a sterner test than they might have done if Hughton had remained but I still expect Town to win this, be disappointed if we don't. Stick a tenner on Pearson anytime scorer, he'll hit double figures at this rate. I had a cheeky bet on Pearson at 9/1 (and LOB) plus a 0-3 away win at 33/1 (singles) on Tuesday. I had money on Toffolo at 18/1 last Saturday too. Only very small bets. I was on the edge of my seat hovering over the cash out button from the moment the third goal went in! I managed to hang on in there. I've had a fiver on him as anytime goal scorer for the last three games. So far two 11/1 wins.
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Post by Uddersfield on Sept 17, 2021 9:18:26 GMT 1
Hope to see a big crowd for this - sacking CH might bring a few extra Forest fans.
Hoping it could get to 18/19k. UTT
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Post by Five Lamps on Sept 17, 2021 9:28:02 GMT 1
Ha, what I mean is there’s doesn’t appear (at least from the outside) any acceptance from their fans or anyone in the club that they are a lower league club and have been for 20 years. They need a massive re-set IMO. Before Clough era they spent many years as a second division outfit. They had a great spell in the sun which is rapidly fading into history. It's becoming about as relevant as Towns glory years in the 20s as there becomes fewer people around who actually witnessed it. Decent spells in the First Division pre-war and throughout the 60s (including a Cup win in 1959). You're right that there's a now whole generation that have only known the second/third tier. Fortunately I know as many realist Forest fans as I do deluded ones.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Sept 17, 2021 10:08:17 GMT 1
And so it begins…
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Post by terrier1996 on Sept 17, 2021 10:40:52 GMT 1
My guess of the 3 would be Koroma, Toffolo and Ward. Think all 3 will still be involved but probably start Campbell instead of Ward which is no problem. Still confident we can beat these lot they are a shower of s**t. 3-0 Town
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Sept 17, 2021 10:51:26 GMT 1
My guess of the 3 would be Koroma, Toffolo and Ward. Think all 3 will still be involved but probably start Campbell instead of Ward which is no problem. Still confident we can beat these lot they are a shower of s**t. 3-0 Town I was thinking Colwill who went down near the end
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Post by Ox Terrier on Sept 17, 2021 11:08:59 GMT 1
I had a cheeky bet on Pearson at 9/1 (and LOB) plus a 0-3 away win at 33/1 (singles) on Tuesday. I had money on Toffolo at 18/1 last Saturday too. Only very small bets. I was on the edge of my seat hovering over the cash out button from the moment the third goal went in! I managed to hang on in there. I've had a fiver on him as anytime goal scorer for the last three games. So far two 11/1 wins. 13/2 to score anytime with Skybet. I’ll be surprised if 11/1 is offered anytime soon after his recent goals. Who’s our penalty taker now?
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 17, 2021 11:22:23 GMT 1
I've had a fiver on him as anytime goal scorer for the last three games. So far two 11/1 wins. 13/2 to score anytime with Skybet. I’ll be surprised if 11/1 is offered anytime soon after his recent goals. Who’s our penalty taker now? Got a few to choose from after Hillsborough
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Post by northnottsblue on Sept 17, 2021 12:04:53 GMT 1
Town are 21/20 on skybet for the home win.If you think they’re going to win,then double your money.What’s not to like ?
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Post by sabailand on Sept 17, 2021 12:17:35 GMT 1
Forest will never achieve anything again until they accept they are a run of the mill club trading on past glories who are at their correct level. They are well supported but the expectation there is completely unrealistic, they attract players who think they’re better than they are and pay them too much. They could really do with being relegated for their own sakes and building from a lower point. Shef Weds are exactly the same (and it looks like they might be getting momentum back following relegation) and Derby are the same too. No. There is no comparison between them and Sheffield Wednesday. Personally, if the club I supported had won the title and European Cup , I’d have expectations as well. Agree, an honours list thats the envy of most, two European cup wins when it was a competition for champions, although they do get a bit deluded and forget its not 1980 anymore.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 17, 2021 12:22:08 GMT 1
Too much confidence for my liking. We're doomed 😁
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Sept 17, 2021 12:26:28 GMT 1
You can bet your last dollar that Joe Lolley will return to the starting line up tomorrow as the interim boss goes on the front foot to add some attacking intent at last.
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