|
Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 18, 2021 18:40:46 GMT 1
We’re not going up. We’re not going down. We are steadying the ship and laying some foundations after a really shite few years.
When we win a match we don’t need to prepare for the playoffs. When we lose one we don’t have to declare the owner, manager and majority of the players as garbage.
It’s like a bi-polar convention on here most weeks, swinging from extremes of high to low at the blast of a whistle.
Calm down, enjoy it for what it is. Keep some perspective and save yourselves a shedload of emotional despair.
We’re getting there. It won’t happen over night. It’s still better now than it has been for the majority of the last 50 years.
|
|
|
Post by chadders51 on Sept 18, 2021 19:01:11 GMT 1
Can you go over to the Oatcake and post some sense 😊
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 19:09:46 GMT 1
We’re not going up. We’re not going down. We are steadying the ship and laying some foundations after a really shite few years. When we win a match we don’t need to prepare for the playoffs. When we lose one we don’t have to declare the owner, manager and majority of the players as garbage. It’s like a bi-polar convention on here most weeks, swinging from extremes of high to low at the blast of a whistle. Calm down, enjoy it for what it is. Keep some perspective and save yourselves a shedload of emotional despair. We’re getting there. It won’t happen over night. It’s still better now than it has been for the majority of the last 50 years. We do agree occasionally!
|
|
|
Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 18, 2021 19:17:42 GMT 1
We’re not going up. We’re not going down. We are steadying the ship and laying some foundations after a really shite few years. When we win a match we don’t need to prepare for the playoffs. When we lose one we don’t have to declare the owner, manager and majority of the players as garbage. It’s like a bi-polar convention on here most weeks, swinging from extremes of high to low at the blast of a whistle. Calm down, enjoy it for what it is. Keep some perspective and save yourselves a shedload of emotional despair. We’re getting there. It won’t happen over night. It’s still better now than it has been for the majority of the last 50 years. We do agree occasionally! Now I feel I may be wrong about this! #PhilOut #CarlosOut #WeAreGoingUp/Down
|
|
|
Post by sykeylad on Sept 18, 2021 19:20:07 GMT 1
Pretty much how I see it.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 19:22:50 GMT 1
We do agree occasionally! Now I feel I may be wrong about this! #PhilOut #CarlosOut #WeAreGoingUp/Down No Idea, but 2 × no & 3rd can't be bothered
|
|
|
Post by 28901 on Sept 18, 2021 19:32:06 GMT 1
We’re not going up. We’re not going down. We are steadying the ship and laying some foundations after a really shite few years. When we win a match we don’t need to prepare for the playoffs. When we lose one we don’t have to declare the owner, manager and majority of the players as garbage. It’s like a bi-polar convention on here most weeks, swinging from extremes of high to low at the blast of a whistle. Calm down, enjoy it for what it is. Keep some perspective and save yourselves a shedload of emotional despair. We’re getting there. It won’t happen over night. It’s still better now than it has been for the majority of the last 50 years. A lot of posts saying that last season. We very nearly went down.
|
|
|
Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 18, 2021 19:41:32 GMT 1
We’re not going up. We’re not going down. We are steadying the ship and laying some foundations after a really shite few years. When we win a match we don’t need to prepare for the playoffs. When we lose one we don’t have to declare the owner, manager and majority of the players as garbage. It’s like a bi-polar convention on here most weeks, swinging from extremes of high to low at the blast of a whistle. Calm down, enjoy it for what it is. Keep some perspective and save yourselves a shedload of emotional despair. We’re getting there. It won’t happen over night. It’s still better now than it has been for the majority of the last 50 years. A lot of posts saying that last season. We very nearly went down. But didn’t. So they were correct.
|
|
King Curtis
Jimmy Glazzard Terrier
Bacon is good for me
Posts: 4,705
|
Post by King Curtis on Sept 18, 2021 19:42:58 GMT 1
Great post.
I agree 100%.
BUT
This thread would have been better posted on Tuesday night.
Problem is... if anyone did that - they'd have been jumped on by a lot of posters on here.
|
|
Tinpot
Mental Health Support Group
I'm really tinpot
Posts: 21,941
|
Post by Tinpot on Sept 18, 2021 19:43:09 GMT 1
I genuinely think lower mid-table (14th to 18th) is where we're likely to finish this season, but whilst there is cause for optimism there are still some glaring weaknesses too.
We're a threat from set pieces, but lack imagination in open play. We have options in wide attacking roles, but not a lot in the centre. We appear have decent cover/competition in some positions, but not others. We appear to have a decent ethic within the squad, but there is still a lack of quality in some areas.
All in all, I'm much happier with the squad now (and the club generally) than I was a few months ago, but until there are 3 sides that can't catch us, avoiding relegation has to be the number 1 target.
No need to be a happy-monger or a doom clapper. Just cautious optimism, but with caution the greater part than the optimism.
|
|
|
Post by 28901 on Sept 18, 2021 19:44:06 GMT 1
A lot of posts saying that last season. We very nearly went down. But didn’t. So they were correct. I dont want that squeaky bum time again thanks. Town have been involved end of season one way or another, barring the relegation season, for about the last 10 years.
|
|
|
Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 18, 2021 19:50:58 GMT 1
I genuinely think lower mid-table (14th to 18th) is where we're likely to finish this season, but whilst there is cause for optimism there are still some glaring weaknesses too. We're a threat from set pieces, but lack imagination in open play. We have options in wide attacking roles, but not a lot in the centre. We appear have decent cover/competition in some positions, but not others. We appear to have a decent ethic within the squad, but there is still a lack of quality in some areas. All in all, I'm much happier with the squad now (and the club generally) than I was a few months ago, but until there are 3 sides that can't catch us, avoiding relegation has to be the number 1 target. No need to be a happy-monger or a doom clapper. Just cautious optimism, but with caution the greater part than the optimism. You are correct but the club have stated they recognise some of your points and we’re very close to resolving the creative CM issue in the window. That in itself is progress, as is the fact we were ready to spend over a million twice in August only for the deals not to come off. Until it’s not mathematically possible, avoiding relegation will always be our primary aim. I think we’ve progressed on and off the pitch again and hopefully are in a position to potentially hasten that progress in the future now we aren’t on the hands of players/agents enjoying good contracts with little in return.
|
|
Yuta be a terrier
Andy Booth Terrier
That Gary Taylor fletcher will never make a footballer.....
Posts: 3,420
|
Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 18, 2021 20:24:24 GMT 1
Totally agree. Today laid bare why we aren't promotion material. Not consistent enough and lacking a bit of magic in the central areas. However I thought no one hid and they all kept wanting the ball. I'm not sure that would have happened last season. I'm sure we will see that performance again this season but I'm also sure we will see a few more like Reading too. UTT
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 20:46:13 GMT 1
Bad day at the office from the start. You knew as soon as they sacked him what was coming. A few on here pissing their pants, we are 7th in the league. Although we did start well last season too, lets just wait till around 15 games in and we will see where we are. We have markedly improved and perform well even losing, bar today.
Win or lose on the booze. Have a good night gents
|
|
|
Post by shawsie on Sept 18, 2021 21:20:08 GMT 1
Spot on......there has been decent improvement but we arent good enough imho to contemplate a top 6 finish. Dont want to go overboard because its been a good start but...... 1. We lack creativity in midfield. Jury out on sinani and hogg/obrien a bit pedestrian today. 2. The lack of a good striker was v apparent today also. Ward not good enough imho and mipo v disappointing for me also. A total lack of incisive movement and whilst not prolific baffled why we didnt see campbell. 3. Whilst i admire the perseverance with plan a, i still think CC could have tried something a bit different. Bad day at the office ultimately.....gotta move on quickly.
|
|
Tinpot
Mental Health Support Group
I'm really tinpot
Posts: 21,941
|
Post by Tinpot on Sept 18, 2021 21:55:09 GMT 1
I genuinely think lower mid-table (14th to 18th) is where we're likely to finish this season, but whilst there is cause for optimism there are still some glaring weaknesses too. We're a threat from set pieces, but lack imagination in open play. We have options in wide attacking roles, but not a lot in the centre. We appear have decent cover/competition in some positions, but not others. We appear to have a decent ethic within the squad, but there is still a lack of quality in some areas. All in all, I'm much happier with the squad now (and the club generally) than I was a few months ago, but until there are 3 sides that can't catch us, avoiding relegation has to be the number 1 target. No need to be a happy-monger or a doom clapper. Just cautious optimism, but with caution the greater part than the optimism. You are correct but the club have stated they recognise some of your points and we’re very close to resolving the creative CM issue in the window. That in itself is progress, as is the fact we were ready to spend over a million twice in August only for the deals not to come off. Until it’s not mathematically possible, avoiding relegation will always be our primary aim. I think we’ve progressed on and off the pitch again and hopefully are in a position to potentially hasten that progress in the future now we aren’t on the hands of players/agents enjoying good contracts with little in return. TBH, I'm much more calm now when I think about our prospects than I was a few months ago. My preseason prediction was that we'd finish 2nd bottom above Derby. I now think we'll stay up comfortably. We're moving in the right direction.
|
|
|
Post by orinoco on Sept 18, 2021 23:11:25 GMT 1
Its about time town had a mid table finish, either seem to be at 1 end of the table.
|
|
|
Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 18, 2021 23:21:54 GMT 1
We’re actually a much better team/ squad than I expected.
Im not complaining .
|
|
Tinpot
Mental Health Support Group
I'm really tinpot
Posts: 21,941
|
Post by Tinpot on Sept 19, 2021 9:00:45 GMT 1
Its about time town had a mid table finish, either seem to be at 1 end of the table. This. Have we had a season where we weren't either (successfully or otherwise) involved in a promotion chase or a relegation battle since the Andy Ritchie era?
|
|
|
Post by sykeylad on Sept 19, 2021 9:41:57 GMT 1
Always makes me smile when I read the opposition were shit and we were shiter which someone always says everytime we lose. Nobody is any good, yet it's a tough league?
Lots of teams say like Preston are solid sides at this level and also lack in similar areas to us.
We'll be fine and hopefully have more interest in how far off the playoffs we are for longer than last season.
|
|
|
Post by detox on Sept 19, 2021 9:54:11 GMT 1
totally agree about the extreme reactions we've seen on here,however weare allowed 'milder' reactions I think.
In that sense then it's frustrating as always that we seemed at one moment to have 'clicked', then in the next moment look as bad as we did during the darker days of last season. We have new players in that have strengthened the side; Schofield, Sarr, Mbenza and bacuna gone..so why are we having the same issues ? is it purely down to the effectiveness of the opposition every time ? I dare say Blackpool fans had the same conversation after beating Fulham then getting drubbed by us...then winning at Middlesbrough...
|
|
|
Post by bluestripe on Sept 19, 2021 10:02:50 GMT 1
I have been to:
Fulham home - defeat Preston home - dismal performance despite the victory Everton home - defeat albeit good performance Stoke away - defeat Nottingham Forest home - defeat
I have missed Sheff Weds A - win Sheff Utd A - win Reading H - win Blackpool A - win Derby County A - draw
Should I become an armchair fan? 🤪
NB. Some Town fans may already have me down as an armchair fan. 🤪
|
|
willo
Jimmy Glazzard Terrier
Posts: 4,833
|
Post by willo on Sept 19, 2021 11:37:02 GMT 1
Very much feels like 2 steps forward followed by 1 step backwards presently which is still progress and I for one am more than happy with that bearing in mind some of the dross we’d endured for several seasons prior to this one.
|
|
|
Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 19, 2021 12:22:30 GMT 1
totally agree about the extreme reactions we've seen on here,however weare allowed 'milder' reactions I think. In that sense then it's frustrating as always that we seemed at one moment to have 'clicked', then in the next moment look as bad as we did during the darker days of last season. We have new players in that have strengthened the side; Schofield, Sarr, Mbenza and bacuna gone..so why are we having the same issues ? is it purely down to the effectiveness of the opposition every time ? I dare say Blackpool fans had the same conversation after beating Fulham then getting drubbed by us...then winning at Middlesbrough... Agree with this. I don’t think many people are giving Forest due credit for yesterday. Personally I thought that they worked harder than any team we’ve played at home this season. They were well drilled, had done their homework on us ( denying Thomas space ) and in Grabban have an excellent leader of their forward line. Results are proving that everyone can beat everyone else in this league. So, whilst gutted about yesterday, looking at the league table still gives me some hope.
|
|
|
Post by nicovaesen on Sept 19, 2021 14:30:21 GMT 1
Agree with above. At no point did I expect reading to win at fulham. Wonder if they’re in meltdown on their forum about that?
|
|
|
Post by Sio on Sept 19, 2021 14:38:55 GMT 1
Its about time town had a mid table finish, either seem to be at 1 end of the table. This. Have we had a season where we weren't either (successfully or otherwise) involved in a promotion chase or a relegation battle since the Andy Ritchie era? This division is usually so tight that most teams are typically involved in one or the other! I expect we'll be towards the bottom come the end of the season, but hopefully it's not as nervy as the past few years.
|
|
|
Post by turbo2 on Sept 19, 2021 14:56:07 GMT 1
If you don’t turn up in this league you can lose to anyone. If you do turn up you can beat anyone.
Yesterday we were pedestrian all over the pitch. Disappointing but hey ho. Fwiw I thought forest were excellent.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 17:23:17 GMT 1
Totally agree. Today laid bare why we aren't promotion material. Not consistent enough and lacking a bit of magic in the central areas. However I thought no one hid and they all kept wanting the ball. I'm not sure that would have happened last season. I'm sure we will see that performance again this season but I'm also sure we will see a few more like Reading too. UTT Who the hell thought or thinks we are and. As for consistent who the hell is after eight games we are more con than some but it's early days dear me some on here
|
|
|
Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 19, 2021 19:09:39 GMT 1
Goals from free kicks and corners, chasing the ball down and a good couple of long shots.
We then try to play a million passes time after time. We get 4 free kicks that could go in the box and play them short and backwards??
Game of percentages if you play to your strengths..?
Just got it wrong after going behind.
|
|
|
Post by melbourneterrier on Sept 20, 2021 2:26:57 GMT 1
Just lacked a bit of creativity on the weekend, that's all.
Their first goal was a good counter and taken well. Their second was more our own fault. Carlos made a change to bring Turton on and it backfired. I don't blame him for that, moving to a more traditional 4 at the back to release Thomas higher up... I can see the logic there.
Forest then set up well defensively, at times having every man behind the ball. A couple of key performances...Spence for them was really good. I said in the match day thread, they did exactly what they needed to do. They may not have looked to be good, as we had the lions share of possession but at the end of the day, they kept us out!
I thought Thomas looked a bit tired, might be a good thing we don't have a midweek game. Koroma was kept quiet.
Holmes for me did well when he came on. Wasn't afraid to take a shot (albeit off target...) as opposed passing it sideways/backwards...
I'd say we need to address how we set up having a lone striker, as I can't really recall anyone playing up top looking particularly dangerous. Maybe a tweak for 2 strikers can be tried in training
I'd gladly take a finish where we aren't in a relegation battle!. Think we are heading in the right direction
|
|