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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Nov 24, 2021 22:54:15 GMT 1
That would have been extremely soft
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Nov 24, 2021 22:54:17 GMT 1
we're not a bad side, we just have a tendancy to make stupid errors that cost us goals.
A missed opportunity tonight.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 24, 2021 22:54:19 GMT 1
Learn from previous games Carlos ffs Another 1 point dropped Totally agree, He is not progressing His tactics in away games The game was going against us, we could not get hold of the ball up the pitch for long enough, it's 0 0 but you are allowed to make subs then. This waiting for the inevitable is doing my head in. Pro active rather than reactive.. I'm not saying we go mad but the first rule of defending is to keep the ball as far away from your own goal as possible and that starts by at least trying to have possession further up the pitch. We started giving them the ball in our half and then overplaying at dead balls, you could see it coming. Just disappointing to watch it go badly again..
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Post by huddersfc on Nov 24, 2021 22:55:47 GMT 1
The main difference from last season is defence. We are far more solid at the back. But I actually think going forward we have got even worse. We either dont have a clue, or we dont have enough quality and I think its the latter. We have strikers who dont contribute enough. Ward and Campbell are not going to score enough goals between them, and its simply not good enough for a striker to not contribute goals. Their 1 job is to score and they arent doing it. We have almost no creativity in midfield when Thomas isnt on his game, and despite a valiant attempt to keep QPR out, ultimately we couldnt and they deservedly won the game.
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 24, 2021 22:56:40 GMT 1
Who came closest to scoring tonight for Town 🤔 Only time hes touched it since he came. Should have scored maybe? So that was about one touch less than Thomas then
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 22:57:18 GMT 1
Because they missed several chances
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Post by huddersfc on Nov 24, 2021 22:58:34 GMT 1
That would have been extremely soft Agreed, however VAR gives that, arm miles away from his body and takes it away from the town man.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Nov 24, 2021 22:59:56 GMT 1
Anyone who can't see the improvement from last season really needs to go to Specsavers, we are definitely a much better team but we have to take our chances when they come. We have little quality up front & we struggled to create a chance once we'd gone behind, they showed us how to hold on to a lead
Campbell is past it now, we'd be far better putting Nabby up there. Sometimes are tactics are baffling, we are capable of playing some good, passing football, albeit with the needed quality at the end missing, yet we spend chunks of the game hoofing it, even when we don't play with with anyone up top when defending set pieces.
Nicholls is my POTS to date, I think others have played equally as well but I just feel we can cover others' absences much more easily than if we had to cover his. He has made a huge difference to this team. If LOB could learn to shoot or find a final ball he would easily be Premier league quality.
Don't get too down hearted, it's a big improvement on last season. UTT.
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Post by Orinoco on Nov 24, 2021 23:00:41 GMT 1
If Mipo is the answer What's the question? He doesn't rate a striker (Harratt) who has scored in 11 games in a row for the B team? Surely a natural goalscorer has to be worth a place on the bench. Diarra and Harrat are class for B team, obviously a lot tougher at league level, but how old do you have to be in a 1st team squad now? Certainly changed to what it used to be.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 24, 2021 23:02:02 GMT 1
On paper QPR Players have better ability technique etc and at the end proved this ...but what do we as a team and individuals offer as opponent tonight? we were just organised but there was very little ambition to score is that acceptable ? Yet their keeper made several saves
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 24, 2021 23:02:34 GMT 1
The Ref was in a good position to see that. In some cases, when the contact is so quick from boot to hand there’s a case to not give it, but as someone has said, that touch prevents the Town player from picking it up on the turn (as he’d intended to).
But we had better chances to score, but I’ll say it for the third time tonight, zero composure in front of goal. The Turton header in the 1st min was similar to the chance Colwill had at Cardiff. Both should really have been in the back of the net.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 24, 2021 23:04:47 GMT 1
On paper QPR Players have better ability technique etc and at the end proved this ...but what do we as a team and individuals offer as opponent tonight? we were just organised but there was very little ambition to score is that acceptable ? Yet their keeper made several saves Their defence and keeper looked a bit shaky at times, can’t understand why we didn’t target their keeper. Didn’t he let in a howler at West Brom?
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Post by Tinpot on Nov 24, 2021 23:05:18 GMT 1
The main difference from last season is defence. We are far more solid at the back. But I actually think going forward we have got even worse. We either dont have a clue, or we dont have enough quality and I think its the latter. We have strikers who dont contribute enough. Ward and Campbell are not going to score enough goals between them, and its simply not good enough for a striker to not contribute goals. Their 1 job is to score and they arent doing it. We have almost no creativity in midfield when Thomas isnt on his game, and despite a valiant attempt to keep QPR out, ultimately we couldnt and they deservedly won the game. I was worried when Hogg got injured that we'd really miss him in the middle of the park. Today & against WBA we didn't really. FWIW I don't think we should underestimate the importance of that. What we HAVE missed is last season's version of Josh Koroma. We've missed Pipa. We need somebody who can provide a bit of magic.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 24, 2021 23:06:53 GMT 1
Anyone who can't see the improvement from last season really needs to go to Specsavers, we are definitely a much better team but we have to take our chances when they come. We have little quality up front & we struggled to create a chance once we'd gone behind, they showed us how to hold on to a lead Campbell is past it now, we'd be far better putting Nabby up there. Sometimes are tactics are baffling, we are capable of playing some good, passing football, albeit with the needed quality at the end missing, yet we spend chunks of the game hoofing it, even when we don't play with with anyone up top when defending set pieces. Nicholls is my POTS to date, I think others have played equally as well but I just feel we can cover others' absences much more easily than if we had to cover his. He has made a huge difference to this team. If LOB could learn to shoot or find a final ball he would easily be Premier league quality. Don't get too down hearted, it's a big improvement on last season. UTT. Exactly. We are probably not quite as good as qpr. We lose at qpr. A little better than boro . We will beat them . People get too high and too low . 90 per cent of pundits and 70 per.cent of town fans had us going down and we.are eighth . And I reckon looking like a team who won't fall away whilst probably not being quite good enough for the play offs. Which is pretty good progress from the last two miserable years .
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Post by 28901 on Nov 24, 2021 23:07:01 GMT 1
On paper QPR Players have better ability technique etc and at the end proved this ...but what do we as a team and individuals offer as opponent tonight? we were just organised but there was very little ambition to score is that acceptable ? Yet their keeper made several saves I cant remember any after the first few minutes.
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Post by Orinoco on Nov 24, 2021 23:08:08 GMT 1
Anyone who can't see the improvement from last season really needs to go to Specsavers, we are definitely a much better team but we have to take our chances when they come. We have little quality up front & we struggled to create a chance once we'd gone behind, they showed us how to hold on to a lead Campbell is past it now, we'd be far better putting Nabby up there. Sometimes are tactics are baffling, we are capable of playing some good, passing football, albeit with the needed quality at the end missing, yet we spend chunks of the game hoofing it, even when we don't play with with anyone up top when defending set pieces. Nicholls is my POTS to date, I think others have played equally as well but I just feel we can cover others' absences much more easily than if we had to cover his. He has made a huge difference to this team. If LOB could learn to shoot or find a final ball he would easily be Premier league quality. Don't get too down hearted, it's a big improvement on last season. UTT. Great post, the squad is well improved, just need more fire power, but have built from back and anyone can see the improvements on last season.
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Post by shawsie on Nov 24, 2021 23:08:25 GMT 1
Anyone who can't see the improvement from last season really needs to go to Specsavers, we are definitely a much better team but we have to take our chances when they come. We have little quality up front & we struggled to create a chance once we'd gone behind, they showed us how to hold on to a lead Campbell is past it now, we'd be far better putting Nabby up there. Sometimes are tactics are baffling, we are capable of playing some good, passing football, albeit with the needed quality at the end missing, yet we spend chunks of the game hoofing it, even when we don't play with with anyone up top when defending set pieces. Nicholls is my POTS to date, I think others have played equally as well but I just feel we can cover others' absences much more easily than if we had to cover his. He has made a huge difference to this team. If LOB could learn to shoot or find a final ball he would easily be Premier league quality. Don't get too down hearted, it's a big improvement on last season. UTT. Agree with most of that but its only a few wks since folks were going mad about the so called top quality of thomas and koroma......now apparently we dont have any! Not sure if those two have believed their own publicity but they havent worked hard enough recently for me and our spark has gone a bit as a result. Sadly tonite we got in some great positions but the final ball was poor........take a look at the table though - its so tight its ridiculous. 3 wins and you can go from relegation candidates to play off hopefuls! Onto saturday.....huge game and 3 pts needed.
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Post by frankslegs on Nov 24, 2021 23:08:36 GMT 1
Last three away games we have missed so many early chances and it’s killed us -we looked good first twenty-but Cc tactics seem confusing when we are struggling
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 23:08:53 GMT 1
Qpr look a definite team for the top 6,we gave them a game and matched them first half but they were simply better than us.That chance in the 1st minute,the flag was up but we could easily have taken the lead in the first half
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Post by Kenny irons on Nov 24, 2021 23:08:55 GMT 1
Frustrating one that! We kept the ball really well first half. Second half we just didn't look after it at all and Carlos seemed to settle for the point on 60 minutes.
Ward was playing well not sure why he was subbed tbh. We need a different kind of striker. I've said it before and I'll say it again michael Smith at rovrum would be a decent option to have.
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Post by Tinpot on Nov 24, 2021 23:09:27 GMT 1
Anyone who can't see the improvement from last season really needs to go to Specsavers, we are definitely a much better team but we have to take our chances when they come. We have little quality up front & we struggled to create a chance once we'd gone behind, they showed us how to hold on to a lead Campbell is past it now, we'd be far better putting Nabby up there. Sometimes are tactics are baffling, we are capable of playing some good, passing football, albeit with the needed quality at the end missing, yet we spend chunks of the game hoofing it, even when we don't play with with anyone up top when defending set pieces. Nicholls is my POTS to date, I think others have played equally as well but I just feel we can cover others' absences much more easily than if we had to cover his. He has made a huge difference to this team. If LOB could learn to shoot or find a final ball he would easily be Premier league quality. Don't get too down hearted, it's a big improvement on last season. UTT. I do think this is Campbell's last season at this level. Age has caught up with him & he's not at the standard he was last season. I said at the start of the season that he was still the best option at CF, but that's no longer the case. Part of that is because DW has done better than expected but FC is a declining force. If he's still here next season I hope it's (primarily at least) in a coaching/mentoring capacity.
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Post by tepidterrier on Nov 24, 2021 23:13:39 GMT 1
The main difference from last season is defence. We are far more solid at the back. But I actually think going forward we have got even worse. We either dont have a clue, or we dont have enough quality and I think its the latter. We have strikers who dont contribute enough. Ward and Campbell are not going to score enough goals between them, and its simply not good enough for a striker to not contribute goals. Their 1 job is to score and they arent doing it. We have almost no creativity in midfield when Thomas isnt on his game, and despite a valiant attempt to keep QPR out, ultimately we couldnt and they deservedly won the game. Aside from the *really* bad run of defeats around January and February last season, we were good going forward and rarely had a problem scoring- there was only one team in the bottom half that scored more goals than we did (Blackburn). We have definitely got a bit worse in that regard but the transformation from the biggest conceders last season to one of the best defences in the league this season, it's a remarkable achievement. The away tactics are always going to throw up results like this, where we played quite well in parts but still lost, and Cardiff, where we didn't. But then also there's been some good smash and grabs in there- Sheff United and Blackpool for example. Both a while ago now though so I am hoping for a bit of a change of tack as the season goes on, particularly if we're not in much risk of reaching the playoffs or going down. Next season is about balancing the good bits of this and last season, I think the ingredients are all there.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Nov 24, 2021 23:14:19 GMT 1
Not sure what people think Corberan should've done differently the substitutes.
We were 0-0 when Campbell came on and 0-0 when Thomas came on.
He's not got alot to really go with from the bench.
Odubeko hasn't really shown any ability to hold up the ball in the game time he's had and I'd assume the manager has seen him in training and gone with Campbell over him because he thought the same.
Wouldn't have subbed Wa3Rd myself mind.
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Post by Melc on Nov 24, 2021 23:15:42 GMT 1
Tonight’s game just about showed where we are at the moment. Let’s hope we have a few of the injured players back around Christmas, but we need a couple of additions in January to help make us stronger both upfront and in midfield. Disappointed but we move on.
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Post by Tinpot on Nov 24, 2021 23:17:47 GMT 1
Qpr look a definite team for the top 6,we gave them a game and matched them first half but they were simply better than us.That chance in the 1st minute,the flag was up but we could easily have taken the lead in the first half Again, this shouldn't be forgotten. We didn't just get bummed in the gob by a bunch of no-hopers. We gave a very good side a very good game. You know those games when you say "they were shit but we were worse"? Well, we were good, but they were better. And not by much. Few pundits had them below top 6 at the start of this season and few will have changed their mind. Conversely we have MASSIVELY exceeded expectations so far.
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Post by turbo2 on Nov 24, 2021 23:30:54 GMT 1
Tonight’s game just about showed where we are at the moment. Let’s hope we have a few of the injured players back around Christmas, but we need a couple of additions in January to help make us stronger both upfront and in midfield. Disappointed but we move on. We are missing too many players at the moment. It’s the recovery time from injury that worries me. Pippa , Rhodes both out for ages. Obvs hoggy more recently and Vallejo??? We’re doing ok. And I hope the squad thinness isn’t as bad as last season. But we really need some of these first teamers back asap
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Post by ceefax on Nov 24, 2021 23:31:32 GMT 1
To me, Town went toe-to-tie with QPR for most of the game and only narrowly fell short - which is encouraging, since they'll be a playoff-challenging team this season. You can't be too upset about that given where most expected us to be at this point in the calendar. Few random thoughts:
Scott High, with a little more confidence, could be the Eiting replacement we wanted at the end of last season. They didn't all come off tonight, but seems to like spraying the ball forward in a similar way.
CC should give Mipo if not a start then a bit more game time - and might as well, when the alternative is Campbell - he looked like he was trying hard to get noticed in the little time he got.
Love Nicholls, seen him bandied about as most impactful signing this season and I think I agree with that. It's important for a keeper to have a bit of character.
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Post by Macduff on Nov 24, 2021 23:32:56 GMT 1
Made me smile when the QPR commentator said of Campbell "his England career consists of 10 minutes against the Netherlands - so far".
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Post by terriersyndrome on Nov 24, 2021 23:36:40 GMT 1
Not interested in our strikers being able to press & hold the ball up on the halfway line, scoring goals should be the primary objective of any strikers remit. Ward & Campbell will struggle to score 10 goals between them all season. Massive problem unless we either a) rectify this in January or b) hope Rhodes can start putting the ball in the net.
Just think where we'd be this season with a proper goalscorer.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 24, 2021 23:36:48 GMT 1
Yet their keeper made several saves I cant remember any after the first few minutes. Are you not counting the header at the death?
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