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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 21, 2022 9:14:23 GMT 1
Going off a similar idea I've seen elsewhere, I reckon it'd be useful if we had some kind of guide on transfer sources who usually report on Town-related transfers, ranking their reliability. Something like:
Tier 1: Pretty much infallibly in the know; if they're talking about it, it's highly likely to go through. Rarely the first to mention a rumour.
eg. Maynard, Henry Winter
Tier 2: Trustworthy and in the know, but a lot more hit and miss
eg. Steven Chicken, Pete O'Rourke, Dr Nose, Football Insider
Tier 3: Not to be trusted in isolation, quite low hit rate, rumour aggregator types rather than well-connected sources
eg. Harry Hall
Tier 4: Clickbait, untrustworthy, making up rubbish
eg. Alan Nixon, tabloids that list us with 2-3 other clubs
The aim here is to make a decent sized list of sources so we can assess the veracity of rumours more easily. Drop your suggestions as replies in here.
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Post by upthetown on Jun 21, 2022 9:20:31 GMT 1
Going off a similar idea I've seen elsewhere, I reckon it'd be useful if we had some kind of guide on transfer sources who usually report on Town-related transfers, ranking their reliability. Something like: Tier 1: Pretty much infallibly in the know; if they're talking about it, it's highly likely to go through. Rarely the first to mention a rumour. eg. Maynard Tier 2: Trustworthy and in the know, but a lot more hit and miss eg. Steven Chicken Tier 3: Not to be trusted in isolation, quite low hit rate, rumour aggregator types rather than well-connected sources eg. Harry Hall Tier 4: Clickbait, untrustworthy, making up rubbish eg. Alan Nixon The aim here is to make a decent sized list of sources so we can assess the veracity of rumours more easily. Drop your suggestions as replies in here. Tier 5: townrwe and the spate of similar accounts that have popped up recently that basically copy and paste dodgy Twitter account information |
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Post by Wingman on Jun 21, 2022 9:23:00 GMT 1
Phew. For a minute there I thought you were going to start naming DATM’ers in each tier such as Kenny Irons, blueandwhiteterrier, townrwe etc!
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 21, 2022 9:31:14 GMT 1
Phew. For a minute there I thought you were going to start naming DATM’ers in each tier such as Kenny Irons, blueandwhiteterrier, townrwe etc! I did seriously consider making a special newsnetworks/anyone who says Kevin Phillips tier. It is aimed at journos but I couldn't think of one who's nearly as reliable as MB! |
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Post by chinaski on Jun 21, 2022 10:13:53 GMT 1
Think Kenny Irons falls into the 1.5 category.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 21, 2022 11:16:51 GMT 1
Think Kenny Irons falls into the 1.5 category. And t'interweb doesn't go deep enough for SuperKnowNowt 😉 |
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Post by Kenny irons on Jun 21, 2022 11:25:46 GMT 1
I don't make the list
I know nothing 👍🏼
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 21, 2022 12:10:31 GMT 1
I don't make the list I know nothing 👍🏼 So you ARE Townrwe 😉 |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 21, 2022 13:00:50 GMT 1
Going off a similar idea I've seen elsewhere, I reckon it'd be useful if we had some kind of guide on transfer sources who usually report on Town-related transfers, ranking their reliability. Something like: Tier 1: Pretty much infallibly in the know; if they're talking about it, it's highly likely to go through. Rarely the first to mention a rumour. eg. Maynard Tier 2: Trustworthy and in the know, but a lot more hit and miss eg. Steven Chicken Tier 3: Not to be trusted in isolation, quite low hit rate, rumour aggregator types rather than well-connected sources eg. Harry Hall Tier 4: Clickbait, untrustworthy, making up rubbish eg. Alan Nixon The aim here is to make a decent sized list of sources so we can assess the veracity of rumours more easily. Drop your suggestions as replies in here. I only ever broke one signing and that was Coady, because I was standing next to him and he said he had just signed and we had a decent chat. I am therefore at 100% reliability, but only if I end up stood next to them before it becomes common knowledge, which is unlikely to occur regularly, but I will inform the readers immediately should it happen again😉 |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 21, 2022 15:05:37 GMT 1
Wasnt there someone, maybe the prem era that knew 1 or 2 things?
Claimed he worked for a club, cant remember which one?
Or am I dreaming?
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Post by townrwe on Jun 21, 2022 15:49:49 GMT 1
I don't make the list I know nothing 👍🏼 So you ARE Townrwe 😉 I see there was no tier 0 for me. I know everything I say nothing...... "wait is that a medical booked in for thursday?" happy days, enjoy people.  |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 21, 2022 16:12:54 GMT 1
Wasnt there someone, maybe the prem era that knew 1 or 2 things? Claimed he worked for a club, cant remember which one? Or am I dreaming? Town fan that worked for Everton 🤔 |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 21, 2022 16:14:56 GMT 1
Wasnt there someone, maybe the prem era that knew 1 or 2 things? Claimed he worked for a club, cant remember which one? Or am I dreaming? Town fan that worked for Everton 🤔 He couldn’t get it right for toffee. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 21, 2022 16:16:01 GMT 1
Wasnt there someone, maybe the prem era that knew 1 or 2 things? Claimed he worked for a club, cant remember which one? Or am I dreaming? maynardblue & cameo are the only ones in recent years with any real credibility, the rest are just chancers who throw shit at a wall hoping something will eventually stick. |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 21, 2022 16:22:21 GMT 1
Wasnt there someone, maybe the prem era that knew 1 or 2 things? Claimed he worked for a club, cant remember which one? Or am I dreaming? Town fan that worked for Everton 🤔 Think so, sure he was itk with one or two things, but then way off with others. |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 21, 2022 16:22:58 GMT 1
Wasnt there someone, maybe the prem era that knew 1 or 2 things? Claimed he worked for a club, cant remember which one? Or am I dreaming? maynardblue & cameo are the only ones in recent years with any real credibility, the rest are just chancers who throw shit at a wall hoping something will eventually stick. They are the only 2 I genuinely get excited by when they post something. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 21, 2022 16:37:33 GMT 1
Wasnt there someone, maybe the prem era that knew 1 or 2 things? Claimed he worked for a club, cant remember which one? Or am I dreaming? maynardblue & cameo are the only ones in recent years with any real credibility, the rest are just chancers who throw shit at a wall hoping something will eventually stick. Cameo gives us the Word Up on transfers. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 21, 2022 17:04:48 GMT 1
Wasnt there someone, maybe the prem era that knew 1 or 2 things? Claimed he worked for a club, cant remember which one? Or am I dreaming? maynardblue & cameo are the only ones in recent years with any real credibility, the rest are just chancers who throw shit at a wall hoping something will eventually stick. Is cameo still around? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 21, 2022 17:06:41 GMT 1
maynardblue & cameo are the only ones in recent years with any real credibility, the rest are just chancers who throw shit at a wall hoping something will eventually stick. They are the only 2 I genuinely get excited by when they post something. cameo hasn't posted for years & maynard hasn't posted anything transfer related this window as far as I'm aware? Looks like we're stuck with the shit slinging chancers, unfortunately. |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 21, 2022 17:08:11 GMT 1
They are the only 2 I genuinely get excited by when they post something. cameo hasn't posted for years & maynard hasn't posted anything transfer related this window as far as I'm aware? Looks like we're stuck with the shit slinging chancers, unfortunately. Presume it is since Deano steadied the ship. Also, one or two newer posters in the January window were a bit harsh towards Maynard. |
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Post by crux on Jun 21, 2022 17:11:17 GMT 1
I wondered whether a 'Maynard' has appeared on the Swansea 'board' after the recent HFO appointment there 😙😉🤔
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 21, 2022 17:19:23 GMT 1
maynardblue & cameo are the only ones in recent years with any real credibility, the rest are just chancers who throw shit at a wall hoping something will eventually stick. Is cameo still around? His appearances were 'fleeting'... |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 21, 2022 18:02:40 GMT 1
I wondered whether a 'Maynard' has appeared on the Swansea 'board' after the recent HFO appointment there 😙😉🤔 Seeing as he has posted on here for a decade or so I doubt it |
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Post by Wingman on Jun 21, 2022 18:17:22 GMT 1
I wondered whether a 'Maynard' has appeared on the Swansea 'board' after the recent HFO appointment there 😙😉🤔 Nope. I know who it is, they’re definitely still around here. Just not a lot to post it seems right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2022 18:20:27 GMT 1
Maynard has gone to ground since Hoyle took charge again, and that's probably not a coincidence. But just let him/her be - even season-ticket holders have real no right to know what's going on behind the scenes - it's nice to know, but at the end of the day these deals will either happen or they won't.
Personally, as much as it's good to have the "scoop" - I reckon it's probably better if these deals happen behind the scenes, and sometimes I prefer it - love a transfer out-of-the-blue, me.
But ultimately a lot of these deals are sensitive discussions - sometimes involving seven-figure sums. The whole transfer business is a bit of a dance - offers, counter-offers, difficult negotiations, agents leaking stories, clubs/players/agents playing games, bidding wars, wanker "ITK" folk messing around, clubs playing their cards close to their chest, distractions and relatively harmless subterfuge.
Personally I think there's an argument to be made for allowing some information to filter down to the likes of us, but there are plenty of arguments against.
It would help if people didn't get so hung up on players we're linked with and using that as a stick to beat the club with, or taking a lack of links in the press with Player X or Y to mean we haven't enquired, and therefore assuming we're "not looking at them".
In other words, chill the fuck out, enjoy the speculation, don't get hung up on who we are or aren't linked with, and treat the "news networks" with the contempt it deserves.
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Post by Tiro on Jun 21, 2022 22:12:27 GMT 1
Maynard has gone to ground since Hoyle took charge again, and that's probably not a coincidence. But just let him/her be - even season-ticket holders have real no right to know what's going on behind the scenes - it's nice to know, but at the end of the day these deals will either happen or they won't. Personally, as much as it's good to have the "scoop" - I reckon it's probably better if these deals happen behind the scenes, and sometimes I prefer it - love a transfer out-of-the-blue, me. But ultimately a lot of these deals are sensitive discussions - sometimes involving seven-figure sums. The whole transfer business is a bit of a dance - offers, counter-offers, difficult negotiations, agents leaking stories, clubs/players/agents playing games, bidding wars, wanker "ITK" folk messing around, clubs playing their cards close to their chest, distractions and relatively harmless subterfuge. Personally I think there's an argument to be made for allowing some information to filter down to the likes of us, but there are plenty of arguments against. It would help if people didn't get so hung up on players we're linked with and using that as a stick to beat the club with, or taking a lack of links in the press with Player X or Y to mean we haven't enquired, and therefore assuming we're "not looking at them". In other words, chill the fuck out, enjoy the speculation, don't get hung up on who we are or aren't linked with, and treat the "news networks" with the contempt it deserves. You speak some sense, but of the two “personally’s”, you advocate for both discreet and overt transfer dealings. Not sure which you prefer before we “chill the fuck out”. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2022 7:01:48 GMT 1
Maynard has gone to ground since Hoyle took charge again, and that's probably not a coincidence. But just let him/her be - even season-ticket holders have real no right to know what's going on behind the scenes - it's nice to know, but at the end of the day these deals will either happen or they won't. Personally, as much as it's good to have the "scoop" - I reckon it's probably better if these deals happen behind the scenes, and sometimes I prefer it - love a transfer out-of-the-blue, me. But ultimately a lot of these deals are sensitive discussions - sometimes involving seven-figure sums. The whole transfer business is a bit of a dance - offers, counter-offers, difficult negotiations, agents leaking stories, clubs/players/agents playing games, bidding wars, wanker "ITK" folk messing around, clubs playing their cards close to their chest, distractions and relatively harmless subterfuge. Personally I think there's an argument to be made for allowing some information to filter down to the likes of us, but there are plenty of arguments against. It would help if people didn't get so hung up on players we're linked with and using that as a stick to beat the club with, or taking a lack of links in the press with Player X or Y to mean we haven't enquired, and therefore assuming we're "not looking at them". In other words, chill the fuck out, enjoy the speculation, don't get hung up on who we are or aren't linked with, and treat the "news networks" with the contempt it deserves. You speak some sense, but of the two “personally’s”, you advocate for both discreet and overt transfer dealings. Not sure which you prefer before we “chill the fuck out”. No, I'm advocating transfer business be done behind closed doors, but at the same time I can understand arguments for keeping supporters in the loop. Hope that's a bit clearer - there's no contradiction there. The chill out comment is aimed at the people who interpret a lack of concrete information for inaction - or worse. E.g. the papers haven't linked us with X, therefore the club isn't looking at him, which is therefore a failure, which must mean that the club has no money and no ambition. I even saw a Tweet describing not appearing to be looking at a player - I repeat, based on a lack of information rather than any verifiable proof - as "criminal". The mind boggles. |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 22, 2022 7:34:30 GMT 1
Maynard has gone to ground since Hoyle took charge again, and that's probably not a coincidence. But just let him/her be - even season-ticket holders have real no right to know what's going on behind the scenes - it's nice to know, but at the end of the day these deals will either happen or they won't. Personally, as much as it's good to have the "scoop" - I reckon it's probably better if these deals happen behind the scenes, and sometimes I prefer it - love a transfer out-of-the-blue, me. But ultimately a lot of these deals are sensitive discussions - sometimes involving seven-figure sums. The whole transfer business is a bit of a dance - offers, counter-offers, difficult negotiations, agents leaking stories, clubs/players/agents playing games, bidding wars, wanker "ITK" folk messing around, clubs playing their cards close to their chest, distractions and relatively harmless subterfuge. Personally I think there's an argument to be made for allowing some information to filter down to the likes of us, but there are plenty of arguments against. It would help if people didn't get so hung up on players we're linked with and using that as a stick to beat the club with, or taking a lack of links in the press with Player X or Y to mean we haven't enquired, and therefore assuming we're "not looking at them". In other words, chill the fuck out, enjoy the speculation, don't get hung up on who we are or aren't linked with, and treat the "news networks" with the contempt it deserves. Find me a club in the world where fans do not act this way. What you are saying, we all know. But transfer windows are exciting. Rumours fly around, people have opinions on players. It is a forum at the end of the day. Would be boring if we never ever knew anything, and had nothing to discuss. Nobody is saying we have a right to know, we dont. It's none of our business. Every year, we get a signing or 2 which has not been mentioned until the last minute. Pearson and Sinani spring to mind. Whereas, Rhodes and Lees were spoke about for weeks. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 29, 2022 16:58:36 GMT 1
Thinking of putting Pete O'Rourke up in tier 1 if Murphy signs. Never known him to be wrong reporting on us and this one came out of nowhere
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Post by Leporid on Jun 29, 2022 19:04:53 GMT 1
maynardblue & cameo are the only ones in recent years with any real credibility, the rest are just chancers who throw shit at a wall hoping something will eventually stick. Is cameo still around? Let's see if he brooches the signings topic in the coming weeks.... |
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