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Post by iangreaves on Aug 5, 2022 9:46:42 GMT 1
Hi Matt, How do you know Town are keen on him? Genuinely interested. Do you think Championship Football is a bridge too far for him right now? (having only played for 6 months in L2) I suspect the real reason Town like him is because he'll come cheap. I have a few spies here n there.  They like him, which doesn't necessarily mean we're 100% going to sign him but he's of interest. Just like Hudlin was and Jessie Debrah is for example. There's always lots of moving pieces and it's all about timing to get the best deal when any other interested clubs are looking the other way. At this moment Simpson would be 3rd/4th choice (depending on whether they find a loan for Phillips) and a B team project but one they would hope they could turn around relatively quickly like they did with Sorba and Russell. I know signing B team players isn't always exciting, but they've got a job on persuading someone to come in when Danny Ward and Jordan Rhodes are both high end earners and both performed pretty well last season, they're in the box seat to start. The money or wage structure isn't there to bring in a high class first choice striker either atm unless Dean changes his mind on budgets. On the flipside to that, having Ward contracted til 2023 let's them plan accordingly ot try get a B team player up to speed. They spend a lot of money on Canalside so projects like what Simpson/Hudlin would be are important to it and the future. Yeah they'll cost less than what Ellis Simms would have done but playing a slightly longer game might heed the same results in the end. Fingers crossed anyway. I haven't seen Russell turn around quickly. |
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Post by TTCMatt on Aug 5, 2022 10:11:59 GMT 1
I have a few spies here n there. They like him, which doesn't necessarily mean we're 100% going to sign him but he's of interest. Just like Hudlin was and Jessie Debrah is for example. There's always lots of moving pieces and it's all about timing to get the best deal when any other interested clubs are looking the other way. At this moment Simpson would be 3rd/4th choice (depending on whether they find a loan for Phillips) and a B team project but one they would hope they could turn around relatively quickly like they did with Sorba and Russell. I know signing B team players isn't always exciting, but they've got a job on persuading someone to come in when Danny Ward and Jordan Rhodes are both high end earners and both performed pretty well last season, they're in the box seat to start. The money or wage structure isn't there to bring in a high class first choice striker either atm unless Dean changes his mind on budgets. On the flipside to that, having Ward contracted til 2023 let's them plan accordingly ot try get a B team player up to speed. They spend a lot of money on Canalside so projects like what Simpson/Hudlin would be are important to it and the future. Yeah they'll cost less than what Ellis Simms would have done but playing a slightly longer game might heed the same results in the end. Fingers crossed anyway. I haven't seen Russell turn around quickly. Touche  |
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Post by ram on Aug 5, 2022 11:09:53 GMT 1
I come on here every day in hope.Judging from what I read it seems even more and more likely that Dean Hoyle wants us to be sustainable in League 1.
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Post by townatheart on Aug 5, 2022 12:14:08 GMT 1
I come on here every day in hope.Judging from what I read it seems even more and more likely that Dean Hoyle wants us to be sustainable in League 1. Personally don't think it is what he WANTS, but can see how it appears he may be willing to accept it. Will remain optimistic though that he may be sticking to what I seem to recall his vision was for Town to be a competitive mid table Championship level club. |
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Post by RickDangerous on Aug 5, 2022 12:18:46 GMT 1
I come on here every day in hope.Judging from what I read it seems even more and more likely that Dean Hoyle wants us to be sustainable in League 1. Be funny that, considering how much money was spent to get out of that league. He let Lee Clark sign approx 40 odd players!! |
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Post by Championship Problems on Aug 5, 2022 13:00:25 GMT 1
I come on here every day in hope.Judging from what I read it seems even more and more likely that Dean Hoyle wants us to be sustainable in League 1. Personally don't think it is what he WANTS, but can see how it appears he may be willing to accept it. Will remain optimistic though that he may be sticking to what I seem to recall his vision was for Town to be a competitive mid table Championship level club. Totally agree, the nature of our business/budgets for a while by Hoyle and Hodkinsons own admission is to gradually set us up for financial self sustainability, be it in L1 or Championship. We overachieved last season but it’s been obvious since the second season in the Prem that we aren’t investing financially in players and wages to push on and compete at the top of the Championship. We are doing it cheaply on the playing side with a larger investment in the development area (B Team and facilities). If we get relegated this year or any year, we’ll have a squad (minus the Crown Jewels) which will provide a platform for the high potential youngsters (Diarra, Camara, Bilokapovic, High, Harratt etc etc etc) to prove their worth and become saleable assets, whilst aiming for promotion back to the Championship. If we don’t get relegated, we’ll rinse and repeat the current model of selling our top performers and bringing in low value / high potential upside alternatives, whilst bringing the playing budget down gradually to facilitate a self sustaining model. Like it or not, it’s been happening for years and isn’t going to change. |
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Post by stinkypete on Aug 5, 2022 13:09:04 GMT 1
Couldn't agree more. Sensible, patient and intelligent planning by the club. When you read the floods of tears on here because someone hasn't played as well as hoped for 60mins, or a high profile player has not been signed, just a shame these traits are not more widely found in the more vocal element of the support base. Would you be happy to play the waiting game if it means we end up in league one until our “projects” are ready? Reeks of doing everything on the cheap to me and many other fans! Sorry if this puts me in the “floods of tears” bracket for having a different view. |
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 5, 2022 14:24:46 GMT 1
I have a few spies here n there. They like him, which doesn't necessarily mean we're 100% going to sign him but he's of interest. Just like Hudlin was and Jessie Debrah is for example. There's always lots of moving pieces and it's all about timing to get the best deal when any other interested clubs are looking the other way. At this moment Simpson would be 3rd/4th choice (depending on whether they find a loan for Phillips) and a B team project but one they would hope they could turn around relatively quickly like they did with Sorba and Russell. I know signing B team players isn't always exciting, but they've got a job on persuading someone to come in when Danny Ward and Jordan Rhodes are both high end earners and both performed pretty well last season, they're in the box seat to start. The money or wage structure isn't there to bring in a high class first choice striker either atm unless Dean changes his mind on budgets. On the flipside to that, having Ward contracted til 2023 let's them plan accordingly ot try get a B team player up to speed. They spend a lot of money on Canalside so projects like what Simpson/Hudlin would be are important to it and the future. Yeah they'll cost less than what Ellis Simms would have done but playing a slightly longer game might heed the same results in the end. Fingers crossed anyway. I haven't seen Russell turn around quickly. Rhodes is not good enough any more and whilst I did not want him back I have to admit Ward played Well last season but is very injury prone so we do need a recognised striker not B Team players. On a lighter note I think Russell has to be slowest player ever to play for us and must be close to being the slowest player in any League not just the championship |
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Post by towngirl on Aug 5, 2022 15:03:51 GMT 1
Can we have the legend back who was sold (arrrgggg) to Ipswich.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Aug 5, 2022 15:24:43 GMT 1
We were almost sustainable in L1 under Davy. Hoyle bought it and said the lack of ambition in the club was unacceptable.
Now we are seemingly doing all we can to return to the status quo, we just have far bigger debts to pay off first.
Funny old world
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 5, 2022 15:55:58 GMT 1
We should change the name of this site to MOB DATM...
I'll let you figure out what that means...
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Post by TTCMatt on Aug 5, 2022 16:05:20 GMT 1
We were almost sustainable in L1 under Davy. Hoyle bought it and said the lack of ambition in the club was unacceptable. Now we are seemingly doing all we can to return to the status quo, we just have far bigger debts to pay off first. Funny old world To be fair to Dean he always said at the time he was injecting cash to get us up to tier 2 as that's where he thought we should be and then we would need to become more self sustainable. Which of course never really happened with losing 5m a year. |
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Post by pterrier on Aug 5, 2022 16:59:01 GMT 1
I think it’s impossible to be a self sustaining football club these days and include non league clubs on that; Prem clubs could possibly be but even then it’s a tough ask. The obscene wages across football make it impossible, every club relies on a benefactor and we are no exception.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 5, 2022 17:01:01 GMT 1
I come on here every day in hope.Judging from what I read it seems even more and more likely that Dean Hoyle wants us to be sustainable in League 1. No chance, the difference in TV revenues is enormous, many millions in fact. Dean does not want to give up that cash cow. |
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Post by ram on Aug 6, 2022 9:48:52 GMT 1
Well Keith he had better get some decent players in then,because if this present policy continues it will probably end in tears.
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 6, 2022 10:56:47 GMT 1
The 1 and only Gary Roberts joined from Ipswich, he did well for Town also.
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Post by benhomly on Aug 6, 2022 12:05:27 GMT 1
We should change the name of this site to MOB DATM... I'll let you figure out what that means... Miserable Old Bastards Down At The MAC? |
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Post by captainjack on Aug 6, 2022 19:02:44 GMT 1
According to someone on Ipswich forum he has a 100 metre in 11 seconds So did Diakhabi!! What I mean is, pace is not everything. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 6, 2022 20:33:51 GMT 1
I think it’s impossible to be a self sustaining football club these days and include non league clubs on that; Prem clubs could possibly be but even then it’s a tough ask. The obscene wages across football make it impossible, every club relies on a benefactor and we are no exception. it is an admirable goal though. football should be a level playing field but it isn't. most championship clubs and premier league clubs gamble eye watering amounts of money just to stand still.
The fact that Town do things a little differently is admirable. It just leaves us at a disadvantage.
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 6, 2022 20:37:06 GMT 1
I think it’s impossible to be a self sustaining football club these days and include non league clubs on that; Prem clubs could possibly be but even then it’s a tough ask. The obscene wages across football make it impossible, every club relies on a benefactor and we are no exception. it is an admirable goal though. football should be a level playing field but it isn't. most championship clubs and premier league clubs gamble eye watering amounts of money just to stand still. The fact that Town do things a little differently is admirable. It just leaves us at a disadvantage.
Who else outside of HTAFC finds it admirable?? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 6, 2022 21:04:31 GMT 1
it is an admirable goal though. football should be a level playing field but it isn't. most championship clubs and premier league clubs gamble eye watering amounts of money just to stand still. The fact that Town do things a little differently is admirable. It just leaves us at a disadvantage.
Who else outside of HTAFC finds it admirable?? Obviously anyone with enough money to burn to run a football club who chooses to say 'no fucking chance'? I dont find it admirable but then I dont see football as a business, more of a charity where the poor souls being helped are on more wages than most of the country, many on obscene amounts whilst their 'charitable works' amount to fuck all most weeks? |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 6, 2022 21:33:15 GMT 1
According to someone on Ipswich forum he has a 100 metre in 11 seconds So did Diakhabi!! What I mean is, pace is not everything. It got Spence a £20m move to Spuds |
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Post by Tiro on Aug 7, 2022 2:43:42 GMT 1
So did Diakhabi!! What I mean is, pace is not everything. It got Spence a £20m move to Spuds Yeah, but, he can actually play. |
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Post by yellowbelly on Aug 12, 2022 11:15:41 GMT 1
Frozen out at Ipswich after putting in a transfer request. Wouldn’t sell to Barry Fry.
Waiting for an acceptable bid.
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Post by mosher on Aug 12, 2022 11:20:12 GMT 1
Frozen out at Ipswich after putting in a transfer request. Wouldn’t sell to Barry Fry. Waiting for an acceptable bid. Would our bid of ten bob and some goal nets be acceptable?  |
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Post by Lovechops on Aug 12, 2022 15:24:59 GMT 1
Seen this on Twitter today-
I don’t claim to be ITK.. but I have heard that Tyreece Simpson could be going to Huddersfield. Huddersfield have lodged a bid that’s been accepted but Ipswich wanting full payment instead of multiple payments over the season. #ITFC
This still on?
Don’t know anymore as of yet, supposedly it was done and dusted but then Mr A decided that they wanted payment in full instead of payment plan. Think Tyreece is frustrated at situation.
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Post by ceephax on Aug 12, 2022 15:35:55 GMT 1
From an article on the Ipswich fan site TWTD earlier today: |
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Post by htfcterry on Aug 12, 2022 15:44:38 GMT 1
Did a Wiki search of him as I have never heard of him other than on this thread. Couldn't help but laugh at his full name - Tyreece Tyson Nesbett Simpson
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2022 20:58:30 GMT 1
Strange one this. He played first half of last season at Swindon and seems to have done well. 11 goals and 3 assists and just 2 yellow cards in the half season. Played a lot of minutes as well. It looks like he went back to Ipswich in January and then nothing. No stats for him playing at all. So you have to think there was a problem after he returned. Even if a player refuses to sign a contract extension, he is contracted until next summer, you would expect them to play him, or loan him, something to try and get a decent fee for him and the more he plays, if like his time at Swindon, the better you would think he would look.
Odd one.
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Post by upthetown on Aug 12, 2022 21:08:03 GMT 1
Strange one this. He played first half of last season at Swindon and seems to have done well. 11 goals and 3 assists and just 2 yellow cards in the half season. Played a lot of minutes as well. It looks like he went back to Ipswich in January and then nothing. No stats for him playing at all. So you have to think there was a problem after he returned. Even if a player refuses to sign a contract extension, he is contracted until next summer, you would expect them to play him, or loan him, something to try and get a decent fee for him and the more he plays, if like his time at Swindon, the better you would think he would look. Odd one. By all accounts recalling him, not playing him and not loaning him out was due to him not signing a new contract. |
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