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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 7, 2022 18:42:11 GMT 1
And how do you know Maynard doesn't have an axe to grind? Once again you have no idea. He has been a proven, trusted source over the years on here. You on the other hand. Your mother should have swallowed. Why can you not have a discussion without hurling insults? You do nothing to support your case by doing that.
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Post by terriers321 on Jul 7, 2022 18:43:58 GMT 1
He has been a proven, trusted source over the years on here. You on the other hand. Your mother should have swallowed. Why can you not have a discussion without hurling insults? You do nothing to support your case by doing that. Don't try and belittle someone else's opinion if it differs from yours and not expect a reaction then.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 7, 2022 18:49:08 GMT 1
Why can you not have a discussion without hurling insults? You do nothing to support your case by doing that. Don't try and belittle someone else's opinion if it differs from yours and not expect a reaction then. Would you have preferred me to say that your comments are pure supposition rather than you have no idea? If my phrasing upset you I apologise, I will try to word my responses better in future.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 7, 2022 18:56:24 GMT 1
Pointless thread this. There's no hidden reason or agenda here, he's gone because he hasn't he received the backing he needs/deserves, it's literally as simple as that.
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Post by runner76 on Jul 7, 2022 19:01:46 GMT 1
Pointless thread this. There's no hidden reason or agenda here, he's gone because he hasn't he received the backing he needs/deserves, it's literally as simple as that. That’s two people saying my thread is pointless. I might get sad if this keeps up…..
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jul 7, 2022 19:57:44 GMT 1
People realise budgets are set months and months in advance, and that Carlos would've known the exact budget he was working with the moment the final whistle was blown at Wembley, right?
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jul 7, 2022 20:04:55 GMT 1
People realise budgets are set months and months in advance, and that Carlos would've known the exact budget he was working with the moment the final whistle was blown at Wembley, right? So why didn't he quit in May rather than wait until July
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jul 7, 2022 20:06:57 GMT 1
People realise budgets are set months and months in advance, and that Carlos would've known the exact budget he was working with the moment the final whistle was blown at Wembley, right? So why didn't he quit in May rather than wait until July Precisely. That's why I don't think lack of spending is anything to do with it. Fully expecting him to pop up somewhere else within a week.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 7, 2022 20:19:22 GMT 1
I don’t think Jorge has handed his notice in along with Corberan to sit on his arse, unemployed, with the hope something turns up in the next few months.
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Post by suttystolemymarsbar on Jul 7, 2022 21:11:05 GMT 1
Isn't it obvious? Has nobody been watching the news over the last couple of days? There's only one destination for Carlos, only one job bigger than managing the famous HTFC.
10 Downing Street.
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Post by rockwall on Jul 7, 2022 21:48:15 GMT 1
When Maynard likes a post there Is something behind it. And how do you know Maynard doesn't have an axe to grind? Once again you have no idea. Your posts are getting dull. What point are you trying to prove? Dean is fucking the fans over again... it is there for all to see. If money was not the issue, we would have appointed someone that wasnt Schofield. Maynard is itk and goes about his/her business professionally. Keeps fans updated when they can and likes posts that are factually correct. Check their history.
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Post by calken on Jul 7, 2022 21:56:36 GMT 1
Every manager will know that sometimes, despite the best offer on the table, a player does not want to come to your club and if a player is only swayed by the massive lump of cash, you might not get 100% out of that player. Who's to say that Carlos's number one target thought he was a tool and would never come here?
I think Hoyle learnt his lesson with splashing the cash and got burnt, we ended up overpaying for utter dross but now I think we've gone too much in the opposite direction. However, without any hard figures to go off, it's very hard to tell.
There are a number of places in the UK that, if in another life should I be a professional footballer, I would never go - irrespective of the money.
I've said it before, but I can imagine there are a lot of players who simply don't want to come and play for Huddersfield.
In summary, if the reason Carlos left was because he didn't get the players he wanted, I think that is an unrealistic expectation of any employer.
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Post by space hardware on Jul 7, 2022 22:03:13 GMT 1
And how do you know Maynard doesn't have an axe to grind? Once again you have no idea. He has been a proven, trusted source over the years on here. You on the other hand. Your mother should have swallowed. OOOOOOOF 😂😂
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Post by 28901 on Jul 7, 2022 22:04:46 GMT 1
The thing is the fans who are pissed off really arnt asking for much. We have one decent season after a miserable few years which got the fans back on board. How hard is it to try and build on that. Even if it doesn't result in another playoff place. Have some ambition, try and show the supporters. People arnt wanting money thrown at it but to keep the manager (unless a higher level club came in for him with a daft offer) and invest some money into the playing squad to keep us competitive. Hoyle left the club in the shit and its looking like he's putting us back in it again. Who says we haven’t tried to do exactly that and Carlos has jumped ship anyway? Well look at the incomings. Then imagine losing Toffolo and O'Brien. Thats all I have to go on. I have to make a judgement on what I see. Obviously I don't have a clue really.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 7, 2022 22:23:33 GMT 1
And how do you know Maynard doesn't have an axe to grind? Once again you have no idea. Your posts are getting dull. What point are you trying to prove?Dean is fucking the fans over again... it is there for all to see. If money was not the issue, we would have appointed someone that wasnt Schofield. Maynard is itk and goes about his/her business professionally. Keeps fans updated when they can and likes posts that are factually correct. Check their history. Not trying to prove any point other than Maynard liking a post doesn't mean Carlos left for lack of investment. If, as has been said, it was a surprise to the owner and the director of football I don't see, given that pre-season is underway, what other option they have but to put Schofield in charge to allow training to continue. We have two new players in, one I am pretty sure said in his interview he spoke to Carlos before joining, and they need to be settled in. Leaving the head coach post vacant while the club consider their options would not be great for those lads. Also we don't know if any other players are coming in. There has obviously been an issue with how Carlos wants to proceed and how the club do. I don't know what that was and neither, I would suggest, does anyone else on this board. I hope more details emerge but I doubt they will. Carlos seems a very principled man and the club are highly unlikely to comment further. It is a great shame. He worked wonders here and I don't think he will be easy to replace.
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Post by mrg on Jul 7, 2022 23:12:31 GMT 1
Your posts are getting dull. What point are you trying to prove?Dean is fucking the fans over again... it is there for all to see. If money was not the issue, we would have appointed someone that wasnt Schofield. Maynard is itk and goes about his/her business professionally. Keeps fans updated when they can and likes posts that are factually correct. Check their history. Not trying to prove any point other than Maynard liking a post doesn't mean Carlos left for lack of investment. If, as has been said, it was a surprise to the owner and the director of football I don't see, given that pre-season is underway, what other option they have but to put Schofield in charge to allow training to continue. We have two new players in, one I am pretty sure said in his interview he spoke to Carlos before joining, and they need to be settled in. Leaving the head coach post vacant while the club consider their options would not be great for those lads. Also we don't know if any other players are coming in. There has obviously been an issue with how Carlos wants to proceed and how the club do. I don't know what that was and neither, I would suggest, does anyone else on this board. I hope more details emerge but I doubt they will. Carlos seems a very principled man and the club are highly unlikely to comment further. It is a great shame. He worked wonders here and I don't think he will be easy to replace. I agree with that mate. It's a weird one. Finishing 3rd, presumably taking £5m in the play off split and not really having a structured plan for replacing 9 players who have left. I appreciate the season finished late for town but DH has really fucked up here. To me obrian and sorba are top dollar exits and ideally if toffs doesn't re sign the club either get recompensed reasonably or if he wants to hard ball play him in the under 23s. Not ideal I know but a plan to replace and add to what the club have lost with the usual pl attacking midfielder. How has the lad from City ended up a sheff United and town have got 2 league 1 midfielders. They could be good i know but that lad can play that position v well. Not backing Carlos imo is a mistake on many levels. We cant seriously be thinking of going into the new campaign with DS in charge. He's a good coach but its a leap to get to a quick start when the lads need to deal with the blow of the gaffer basically saying without additions im not sure I can do anything.
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Post by sabailand on Jul 8, 2022 0:17:43 GMT 1
Maybe the truth is there really is simply a lack of funds, and what there is isnt worth talking about.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Jul 8, 2022 0:26:01 GMT 1
When Maynard likes a post there Is something behind it. And how do you know Maynard doesn't have an axe to grind? Once again you have no idea. Perhaps because there’s a rumour that Maynard and DH are one and the same?
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Post by goodbet on Jul 8, 2022 0:26:06 GMT 1
Every manager will know that sometimes, despite the best offer on the table, a player does not want to come to your club and if a player is only swayed by the massive lump of cash, you might not get 100% out of that player. Who's to say that Carlos's number one target thought he was a tool and would never come here? I think Hoyle learnt his lesson with splashing the cash and got burnt, we ended up overpaying for utter dross but now I think we've gone too much in the opposite direction. However, without any hard figures to go off, it's very hard to tell. There are a number of places in the UK that, if in another life should I be a professional footballer, I would never go - irrespective of the money. I've said it before, but I can imagine there are a lot of players who simply don't want to come and play for Huddersfield. In summary, if the reason Carlos left was because he didn't get the players he wanted, I think that is an unrealistic expectation of any employer. I don't believe that anyone expects to get all of their targets in football or any other industry. Not trying and looking at players who don't fit your style but are cheap will piss anyone off. We don't have all of the information about what is going on at Town but the most likely scenario based on what we have dose not look good and this will not build on what was achieved last season.
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Jul 8, 2022 0:53:20 GMT 1
Never find out.
Dean NDA Hoyle at your service
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Post by runner76 on Jul 8, 2022 8:56:51 GMT 1
Never find out. Dean NDA Hoyle at your service Truth? Truth? We CAN handle the truth!!!!
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 8, 2022 9:01:31 GMT 1
Not trying to prove any point other than Maynard liking a post doesn't mean Carlos left for lack of investment. If, as has been said, it was a surprise to the owner and the director of football I don't see, given that pre-season is underway, what other option they have but to put Schofield in charge to allow training to continue. We have two new players in, one I am pretty sure said in his interview he spoke to Carlos before joining, and they need to be settled in. Leaving the head coach post vacant while the club consider their options would not be great for those lads. Also we don't know if any other players are coming in. There has obviously been an issue with how Carlos wants to proceed and how the club do. I don't know what that was and neither, I would suggest, does anyone else on this board. I hope more details emerge but I doubt they will. Carlos seems a very principled man and the club are highly unlikely to comment further. It is a great shame. He worked wonders here and I don't think he will be easy to replace. I agree with that mate. It's a weird one. Finishing 3rd, presumably taking £5m in the play off split and not really having a structured plan for replacing 9 players who have left. I appreciate the season finished late for town but DH has really fucked up here. To me obrian and sorba are top dollar exits and ideally if toffs doesn't re sign the club either get recompensed reasonably or if he wants to hard ball play him in the under 23s. Not ideal I know but a plan to replace and add to what the club have lost with the usual pl attacking midfielder. How has the lad from City ended up a sheff United and town have got 2 league 1 midfielders. They could be good i know but that lad can play that position v well. Not backing Carlos imo is a mistake on many levels. We cant seriously be thinking of going into the new campaign with DS in charge. He's a good coach but its a leap to get to a quick start when the lads need to deal with the blow of the gaffer basically saying without additions im not sure I can do anything. Which lad at City has ended up at Sheffield U?
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 8, 2022 9:22:30 GMT 1
He’ll pop up somewhere else very soon. Couldn't agree more, there must be quite a few owners thinking they'd like to get rid of their manager but waiting for the right manager to come along. CC will be a massive draw for a lot of teams, both here & abroad. I'm not naive enough to think that tapping up doesn't exist, maybe CC had been approached after Wembley, been offered a new job but stated he wanted to wait & see if promises were delivered at Town. Maybe he's just a snake in the grass..... whatever he is, his stock as a head coach is incredibly high right now after his achievements lat year, so I'll be very surprised if he doesn't pop up somewhere very soon. I never understand people that write on message boards the likes of "there's no point speculating, we'll never know the truth, let's leave it to those that know etc." surely the whole point of these boards is to discuss what's happening at our beloved club?
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 8, 2022 9:33:55 GMT 1
I agree with that mate. It's a weird one. Finishing 3rd, presumably taking £5m in the play off split and not really having a structured plan for replacing 9 players who have left. I appreciate the season finished late for town but DH has really fucked up here. To me obrian and sorba are top dollar exits and ideally if toffs doesn't re sign the club either get recompensed reasonably or if he wants to hard ball play him in the under 23s. Not ideal I know but a plan to replace and add to what the club have lost with the usual pl attacking midfielder. How has the lad from City ended up a sheff United and town have got 2 league 1 midfielders. They could be good i know but that lad can play that position v well. Not backing Carlos imo is a mistake on many levels. We cant seriously be thinking of going into the new campaign with DS in charge. He's a good coach but its a leap to get to a quick start when the lads need to deal with the blow of the gaffer basically saying without additions im not sure I can do anything. Which lad at City has ended up at Sheffield U? Doyle
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Post by Wingman on Jul 8, 2022 10:59:12 GMT 1
And don’t forget Doyle allegedly turned us down last Summer. He had a misfit season in the end I believe also.
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Post by mrg on Jul 8, 2022 11:51:20 GMT 1
I agree with that mate. It's a weird one. Finishing 3rd, presumably taking £5m in the play off split and not really having a structured plan for replacing 9 players who have left. I appreciate the season finished late for town but DH has really fucked up here. To me obrian and sorba are top dollar exits and ideally if toffs doesn't re sign the club either get recompensed reasonably or if he wants to hard ball play him in the under 23s. Not ideal I know but a plan to replace and add to what the club have lost with the usual pl attacking midfielder. How has the lad from City ended up a sheff United and town have got 2 league 1 midfielders. They could be good i know but that lad can play that position v well. Not backing Carlos imo is a mistake on many levels. We cant seriously be thinking of going into the new campaign with DS in charge. He's a good coach but its a leap to get to a quick start when the lads need to deal with the blow of the gaffer basically saying without additions im not sure I can do anything. Which lad at City has ended up at Sheffield U? Tommy Doyle. Looks on par or at least somewhere near Emile Smith Rowe in terms of box to box ability. Danced through our defence to equalise for Cardiff at Leeds Road last time out while on loan there.
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Post by mrg on Jul 8, 2022 11:57:45 GMT 1
He’ll pop up somewhere else very soon. Couldn't agree more, there must be quite a few owners thinking they'd like to get rid of their manager but waiting for the right manager to come along. CC will be a massive draw for a lot of teams, both here & abroad. I'm not naive enough to think that tapping up doesn't exist, maybe CC had been approached after Wembley, been offered a new job but stated he wanted to wait & see if promises were delivered at Town. Maybe he's just a snake in the grass..... whatever he is, his stock as a head coach is incredibly high right now after his achievements lat year, so I'll be very surprised if he doesn't pop up somewhere very soon. I never understand people that write on message boards the likes of "there's no point speculating, we'll never know the truth, let's leave it to those that know etc." surely the whole point of these boards is to discuss what's happening at our beloved club? He won't have been paid out if he's resigned. If he's been tapped up or feels unsupported then he's got every right to walk. He's put a lot more into the club than he's taken out. He also supported the whole playing staff through PHs business collapse last year. DH doesn't seem clear about his intentions. Obviously because PH wants more out than the 2.5m and 2 years he put in, which, honestly, id give him, draw a line under and move forward. Now we need a new gaffer in the next 3 weeks. Why not plan the budget and target the right players while he was on holiday. Dropped a ball there imo. Another one
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 8, 2022 12:01:34 GMT 1
Couldn't agree more, there must be quite a few owners thinking they'd like to get rid of their manager but waiting for the right manager to come along. CC will be a massive draw for a lot of teams, both here & abroad. I'm not naive enough to think that tapping up doesn't exist, maybe CC had been approached after Wembley, been offered a new job but stated he wanted to wait & see if promises were delivered at Town. Maybe he's just a snake in the grass..... whatever he is, his stock as a head coach is incredibly high right now after his achievements lat year, so I'll be very surprised if he doesn't pop up somewhere very soon. I never understand people that write on message boards the likes of "there's no point speculating, we'll never know the truth, let's leave it to those that know etc." surely the whole point of these boards is to discuss what's happening at our beloved club? He won't have been paid out if he's resigned. If he's been tapped up or feels unsupported then he's got every right to walk. He's put a lot more into the club than he's taken out. He also supported the whole playing staff through PHs business collapse last year. DH doesn't seem clear about his intentions. Obviously because PH wants more out than the 2.5m and 2 years he put in, which, honestly, id give him, draw a line under and move forward. Now we need a new gaffer in the next 3 weeks. Why not plan the budget and target the right players while he was on holiday. Dropped a ball there imo. Another one We don't need a new gaffer as Schofield has got the gig. No issue with Schofield, who wouldn't take the opportunity in his position! He should never have been offered it in the first place though.
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Post by rugbyterrier on Jul 8, 2022 12:05:37 GMT 1
Every manager will know that sometimes, despite the best offer on the table, a player does not want to come to your club and if a player is only swayed by the massive lump of cash, you might not get 100% out of that player. Who's to say that Carlos's number one target thought he was a tool and would never come here? I think Hoyle learnt his lesson with splashing the cash and got burnt, we ended up overpaying for utter dross but now I think we've gone too much in the opposite direction. However, without any hard figures to go off, it's very hard to tell. There are a number of places in the UK that, if in another life should I be a professional footballer, I would never go - irrespective of the money. I've said it before, but I can imagine there are a lot of players who simply don't want to come and play for Huddersfield. In summary, if the reason Carlos left was because he didn't get the players he wanted, I think that is an unrealistic expectation of any employer. Have you ever been to Luton?
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Post by mrg on Jul 8, 2022 12:38:31 GMT 1
He won't have been paid out if he's resigned. If he's been tapped up or feels unsupported then he's got every right to walk. He's put a lot more into the club than he's taken out. He also supported the whole playing staff through PHs business collapse last year. DH doesn't seem clear about his intentions. Obviously because PH wants more out than the 2.5m and 2 years he put in, which, honestly, id give him, draw a line under and move forward. Now we need a new gaffer in the next 3 weeks. Why not plan the budget and target the right players while he was on holiday. Dropped a ball there imo. Another one We don't need a new gaffer as Schofield has got the gig. No issue with Schofield, who wouldn't take the opportunity in his position! He should never have been offered it in the first place though. Thats a problem em, because he doesn't have a coaching team. The squad will be pissed off and it really needs someone like DW to come in now and give it a shake. I love Danny but this is a wrong move and shows prempting the future isn't in the directors strategy, which will have consequences unless a different course is set imo.
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