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Post by woodyhudds on Aug 5, 2022 22:38:26 GMT 1
In fairness to Schofield I'd have gone with the team he picked. The issue is he's now being asked to make squad players last year first team starters due to the chronic lack of re-investment from our transfer fees. You cannot expect Ruffels to replace Toffs, he's so limited going forward and can't defend I'm afraid, you can carry Turton on the right if you have something on the left but we are sh short of anyone driving through the their first line. We haven't replaced O'Brien, Hogg has been becoming more pedestrian as the years go by but he's still got the legs over Russell who has to play as a three or not at all.
When you look at it in the cold light of day we are short of a Centre Half (someone mobile), Central Midfielder(someone mobile) and a Striker (someone mobile) as a start. Doesn't matter who good a coach we have we are not going to create chances if we don't have a change of pace, there's only Tino I would class as having any pace in the squad and we simply need more speed. The pace at which we pass the ball is criminal, and our solutions to throws in appear to be to throw it as far backwards as possible.
Its a bit of a mess and Danny deserves to be given a chance with 2-3 more signings. Can't see that happening though as financially if you believe Dean we are screwed.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Aug 5, 2022 22:40:13 GMT 1
That Bacuna looks a decent player. Might be worth an enquiry Compared to our midfielders anyway Shows what a sorry state we’re in when Bacuna would look like an improvement to our squad |
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Post by recruiterterrier on Aug 5, 2022 22:40:54 GMT 1
As most of us would agree the 1st half was, once again, abysmal. At least in the 2nd half we saw flashes of what this team could produce. When we decided to give up on playing walking football and moved the ball with some pace and purpose, we looked like we could damage them, and the move that produced the goal was the best example of this.
I wish we would just try and play on the front foot with more positivity from the 1st whistle rather than waiting until we're 2-0 before we start playing.
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Post by drumriggend on Aug 5, 2022 22:41:18 GMT 1
Where is mahoney by the way??
The winger we signed from millwall??
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Post by BlueValour on Aug 5, 2022 22:42:01 GMT 1
A couple of wins are desperately needed to shake off the last few months. I'll take one win at the moment! |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 5, 2022 22:43:47 GMT 1
In fairness to Schofield I'd have gone with the team he picked. The issue is he's now being asked to make squad players last year first team starters due to the chronic lack of re-investment from our transfer fees. You cannot expect Ruffels to replace Toffs, he's so limited going forward and can't defend I'm afraid, you can carry Turton on the right if you have something on the left but we are sh short of anyone driving through the their first line. We haven't replaced O'Brien, Hogg has been becoming more pedestrian as the years go by but he's still got the legs over Russell who has to play as a three or not at all. When you look at it in the cold light of day we are short of a Centre Half (someone mobile), Central Midfielder(someone mobile) and a Striker (someone mobile) as a start. Doesn't matter who good a coach we have we are not going to create chances if we don't have a change of pace, there's only Tino I would class as having any pace in the squad and we simply need more speed. The pace at which we pass the ball is criminal, and our solutions to throws in appear to be to throw it as far backwards as possible. Its a bit of a mess and Danny deserves to be given a chance with 2-3 more signings. Can't see that happening though as financially if you believe Dean we are screwed. The Centre half - I'm hoping Nakayama is that guy. Although he can't be that AND a left back. And at the moment he's neither. Mobile central midfielder? Kasumu is probably it, but the reports from MK (good enough for the championship, but picks up loads of bookings and very injury prone) look very accurate. Striker? I like Ward & Rhodes but Ward in particular looked fucked towards the end of last season. I do think we need another & after failing to set Lg2 alight last season I fear Kieran Phillips ain't the answer. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Aug 5, 2022 22:43:50 GMT 1
Nope, wrong on all counts. Yes, fantastic contribution. Well done. Apology accepted. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 5, 2022 22:46:04 GMT 1
Compared to our midfielders anyway Shows what a sorry state we’re in when Bacuna would look like an improvement to our squad Much as I said when he was here: Bacuna on a good day would be an asset to any side in this division. Bacuna on a bad day would not be an asset to any side in this division. Today was a good day. If he could do that consistently he'd have walked into our side every game last season - but he can't (or at least, doesn't). |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 5, 2022 22:51:11 GMT 1
We look shocking. we look unfit, with no confidence and a lack of desire. I know they say that you shouldn’t introduce the younger players in to a losing team, but can’t see what we have to lose. Russell looks like he can’t be arsed Sorba looks a shadow of his former self Edmonds Green looks out of his depth Ruffels looks like he’s never played left back in his life Ward took his goal well, but he doesn’t hold the ball up and bring other players in to the game Anjorin and rudoni looked better than the rest, but the rest were as poor as we’ve seen for a while. Play like that every week and we will go down. It was dreadful. Easy to blame schofield, but Carlos is the one that’s walked out on this squad. Toff and Obrien were both vice captains and they’ve gone too. The team needs some proper leaders to salvage something from this start, before it’s too late I wondered the sam re: leadership, but we still have leaders here. Lees, Pearson, Nicholls, Hogg. None of them would look out of place as captain. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 5, 2022 22:52:11 GMT 1
Whereas the first 2 games are pretty grim we've got to let Schofield find his way a bit although he's not helped by a ropey squad and no striker or strikers but their were signs in the 2nd half that we are capable. Not sure if Thomas and Russell are believing their own hype but they need to take a reality check and get their fingers out. Thought Rudoni looked decent 2nd half. Apart from the striker who scored obviously, and the other striker who came on as a sub and should have won us a penalty. 🤔 I mean proper strikers not someone who spent most of his career out wide and despite being a big Rhodes fan he's the wrong side of 30. Someone who can score 20 goals for us. |
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Post by goodbet on Aug 5, 2022 22:54:29 GMT 1
In fairness to Schofield I'd have gone with the team he picked. The issue is he's now being asked to make squad players last year first team starters due to the chronic lack of re-investment from our transfer fees. You cannot expect Ruffels to replace Toffs, he's so limited going forward and can't defend I'm afraid, you can carry Turton on the right if you have something on the left but we are sh short of anyone driving through the their first line. We haven't replaced O'Brien, Hogg has been becoming more pedestrian as the years go by but he's still got the legs over Russell who has to play as a three or not at all. When you look at it in the cold light of day we are short of a Centre Half (someone mobile), Central Midfielder(someone mobile) and a Striker (someone mobile) as a start. Doesn't matter who good a coach we have we are not going to create chances if we don't have a change of pace, there's only Tino I would class as having any pace in the squad and we simply need more speed. The pace at which we pass the ball is criminal, and our solutions to throws in appear to be to throw it as far backwards as possible. Its a bit of a mess and Danny deserves to be given a chance with 2-3 more signings. Can't see that happening though as financially if you believe Dean we are screwed. The Centre half - I'm hoping Nakayama is that guy. Although he can't be that AND a left back. And at the moment he's neither. Mobile central midfielder? Kasumu is probably it, but the reports from MK (good enough for the championship, but picks up loads of bookings and very injury prone) look very accurate. Striker? I like Ward & Rhodes but Ward in particular looked fucked towards the end of last season. I do think we need another & after failing to set Lg2 alight last season I fear Kieran Phillips ain't the answer. Why have we not seen Nakayama as yet. There were the people on here saying how he was ripping it up on the training field and Town were thinking they had uncovered a star. I hope they were right but his lack of minutes on the field seems to be indicating something different. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 5, 2022 22:59:23 GMT 1
In fairness to Schofield I'd have gone with the team he picked. The issue is he's now being asked to make squad players last year first team starters due to the chronic lack of re-investment from our transfer fees. You cannot expect Ruffels to replace Toffs, he's so limited going forward and can't defend I'm afraid, you can carry Turton on the right if you have something on the left but we are sh short of anyone driving through the their first line. We haven't replaced O'Brien, Hogg has been becoming more pedestrian as the years go by but he's still got the legs over Russell who has to play as a three or not at all. When you look at it in the cold light of day we are short of a Centre Half (someone mobile), Central Midfielder(someone mobile) and a Striker (someone mobile) as a start. Doesn't matter who good a coach we have we are not going to create chances if we don't have a change of pace, there's only Tino I would class as having any pace in the squad and we simply need more speed. The pace at which we pass the ball is criminal, and our solutions to throws in appear to be to throw it as far backwards as possible. Its a bit of a mess and Danny deserves to be given a chance with 2-3 more signings. Can't see that happening though as financially if you believe Dean we are screwed. Good post that |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 5, 2022 23:01:49 GMT 1
Where is mahoney by the way?? The winger we signed from millwall?? 🍻 Good question. Let’s hope he’s not one that DS doesn’t fancy trying. Surely gets a game with Grant v Preston? |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 5, 2022 23:03:41 GMT 1
The Centre half - I'm hoping Nakayama is that guy. Although he can't be that AND a left back. And at the moment he's neither. Mobile central midfielder? Kasumu is probably it, but the reports from MK (good enough for the championship, but picks up loads of bookings and very injury prone) look very accurate. Striker? I like Ward & Rhodes but Ward in particular looked fucked towards the end of last season. I do think we need another & after failing to set Lg2 alight last season I fear Kieran Phillips ain't the answer. Why have we not seen Nakayama as yet. There were the people on here saying how he was ripping it up on the training field and Town were thinking they had uncovered a star. I hope they were right but his lack of minutes on the field seems to be indicating something different. Left centre half and left back (i.e. positions Nakayama can play) both look weak to me. He'd have to be pretty poor not to improve us in either of those positions, based on what I've seen of the first two games. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Aug 5, 2022 23:04:11 GMT 1
The Centre half - I'm hoping Nakayama is that guy. Although he can't be that AND a left back. And at the moment he's neither. Mobile central midfielder? Kasumu is probably it, but the reports from MK (good enough for the championship, but picks up loads of bookings and very injury prone) look very accurate. Striker? I like Ward & Rhodes but Ward in particular looked fucked towards the end of last season. I do think we need another & after failing to set Lg2 alight last season I fear Kieran Phillips ain't the answer. Why have we not seen Nakayama as yet. There were the people on here saying how he was ripping it up on the training field and Town were thinking they had uncovered a star. I hope they were right but his lack of minutes on the field seems to be indicating something different. All I can think is that he wasnt allowed to play in the pre season friendlies due to clearance, so might not be 'match ready' or whatever that modern saying is. I hope he starts on Tuesday night... he's got to really, cant say I've seen any training from him but he looks good in hos youtube montage, then again so did Mbenza and Diakhaby! |
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 5, 2022 23:08:14 GMT 1
Losing the goal on 45’ minutes was the killer tonight - especially as it made it 2-0... looks like Town recovered in the second half just like in The Burnley match but alas - too little too late once again....
We do need to get to the bottom of why we are so kinda slow outta the blocks in the first half of matches this season...
Anyway onwards to The League Cup clash with Preston North End on Tuesday and we’ll see how that one comes to pan out !
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Post by space hardware on Aug 5, 2022 23:12:06 GMT 1
In fairness to Schofield I'd have gone with the team he picked. The issue is he's now being asked to make squad players last year first team starters due to the chronic lack of re-investment from our transfer fees. You cannot expect Ruffels to replace Toffs, he's so limited going forward and can't defend I'm afraid, you can carry Turton on the right if you have something on the left but we are sh short of anyone driving through the their first line. We haven't replaced O'Brien, Hogg has been becoming more pedestrian as the years go by but he's still got the legs over Russell who has to play as a three or not at all. When you look at it in the cold light of day we are short of a Centre Half (someone mobile), Central Midfielder(someone mobile) and a Striker (someone mobile) as a start. Doesn't matter who good a coach we have we are not going to create chances if we don't have a change of pace, there's only Tino I would class as having any pace in the squad and we simply need more speed. The pace at which we pass the ball is criminal, and our solutions to throws in appear to be to throw it as far backwards as possible. Its a bit of a mess and Danny deserves to be given a chance with 2-3 more signings. Can't see that happening though as financially if you believe Dean we are screwed.He's the one screwing the club. |
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Post by harris on Aug 5, 2022 23:42:34 GMT 1
We’re a couple of losses off booing the team off at HT and FT and pure toxicity. DS will be out before we know it, not that I think it’s his fault
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 6, 2022 0:18:12 GMT 1
We’re a couple of losses off booing the team off at HT and FT and pure toxicity. DS will be out before we know it, not that I think it’s his fault Second half until the goal was pretty toxic tonight. |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Aug 6, 2022 0:26:18 GMT 1
We’re a couple of losses off booing the team off at HT and FT and pure toxicity. DS will be out before we know it, not that I think it’s his fault It won’t be long I’m afraid. Whether it’s fault or not who knows but I feel it’s not his fault either. |
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Post by reverendstarbuck on Aug 6, 2022 0:36:00 GMT 1
I don't get chance to watch Town live much these days. Live in Berlin but I've been working at the Comm Games in Birmingham, and ducked out of that early to get to St Andrew's tonight.
I don't post on here (much) anymore but still dip in and out and cannot believe some of the negative stuff I read. For 30 mins in the second half we were all over them, we shut their fans up completely and on another day could have had a couple of pens and at least another goal from open play.
Thomas looked back on it, Rudoni lively and when we play through Russell, we look good. Not sure about Ruffels; I actually think Toffolo will be a bigger loss than O'Brien
Walking back into Brum their fans knew they'd got away with at least a couple of points.
Schofield was handed a stupid pre-season and has overseen 135 minutes of below par football - by all accounts. But I think the second half tonight should give everyone hope.
And yes the "we've lost the ball" chant was a bit cheap but it livened up the away end, which had been silent up to that point. Then came the superb Ward goal, proper backing for individual players and the team and by the end, applause for the Town support from the players.
It ain't all doom and gloom.
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Post by wigster on Aug 6, 2022 1:00:38 GMT 1
Crap first half, much improved in the second until Schofield took off Anjorin & Rudomi, who for me were our best two players. That killed the momentum and how Thomas stayed on the whole game is anybody's guess. Time and again he picked the wrong option, goal aside. Something to work on, but we need to be on it from the off in the first half. Whatever Schofield said at half time, he needs to be saying it before they kick off. Frankie - do you think we were better second half because of what WE did - altered tactics/changed personnel etc, or because Birmingham sat back and basically gave us the time and space to try to mount attacks ? I personally think that it was Birmingham's change of tactics that gave us a bit more of an attacking chance. Even then Brum could have scored at least 2 more in the second half. |
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Post by htafc12 on Aug 6, 2022 1:25:58 GMT 1
Just got home now. Worst I’ve seen us play in a very long time. Not one positive to take from that. We were second best to EVERYTHING. Schofield out of his depth but he’s not to blame. All comes down to that greed pillock mr hoyle.
Fcukin fuming.
We made them look brilliant. Did your job brum
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Post by buckers on Aug 6, 2022 6:36:16 GMT 1
In fairness to Schofield I'd have gone with the team he picked. The issue is he's now being asked to make squad players last year first team starters due to the chronic lack of re-investment from our transfer fees. You cannot expect Ruffels to replace Toffs, he's so limited going forward and can't defend I'm afraid, you can carry Turton on the right if you have something on the left but we are sh short of anyone driving through the their first line. We haven't replaced O'Brien, Hogg has been becoming more pedestrian as the years go by but he's still got the legs over Russell who has to play as a three or not at all. When you look at it in the cold light of day we are short of a Centre Half (someone mobile), Central Midfielder(someone mobile) and a Striker (someone mobile) as a start. Doesn't matter who good a coach we have we are not going to create chances if we don't have a change of pace, there's only Tino I would class as having any pace in the squad and we simply need more speed. The pace at which we pass the ball is criminal, and our solutions to throws in appear to be to throw it as far backwards as possible. Its a bit of a mess and Danny deserves to be given a chance with 2-3 more signings. Can't see that happening though as financially if you believe Dean we are screwed. Great post this. |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Aug 6, 2022 7:55:00 GMT 1
Apart from the striker who scored obviously, and the other striker who came on as a sub and should have won us a penalty. 🤔 I mean proper strikers not someone who spent most of his career out wide and despite being a big Rhodes fan he's the wrong side of 30. Someone who can score 20 goals for us. Only five championship strikers scored 20+ goals last season. Four of those would set you back £10m+. The other was someone the wrong side of 30 having the best season he's ever had. To be fair I think Ward could score 20+ if we actually created chances. Problem is we don't. |
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Post by frankslegs on Aug 6, 2022 8:46:26 GMT 1
So please tell me why we when we have some momentum we take Ward and Tino off - both looked well pissed off -first thing Rhodes did was commit a stupid obvious foul in their box which lost us two minutes of play and possession -
Main point though is- DS was In the CC group so will always follow CC style.So we still have the old frustrating CC problems of slow out of the blocks,no high press,predictable patterns of play in our third etc etc.Last year that game would have been won by us 2-1 in that Nichols didn’t make a mistake and Sorba would have scored
We had some amazing fortuitous results and everyone knew that the players never listened to CC ranting and raving on the touch line.
We need DS this year to be his own man and be more expansive
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 6, 2022 9:03:04 GMT 1
Right, that’s me done with starting the match thread for this season…
We just need Tog to bring back Yazz before every game and we’ll be sorted…
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 6, 2022 9:15:49 GMT 1
Crap first half, much improved in the second until Schofield took off Anjorin & Rudomi, who for me were our best two players. That killed the momentum and how Thomas stayed on the whole game is anybody's guess. Time and again he picked the wrong option, goal aside. Something to work on, but we need to be on it from the off in the first half. Whatever Schofield said at half time, he needs to be saying it before they kick off. Frankie - do you think we were better second half because of what WE did - altered tactics/changed personnel etc, or because Birmingham sat back and basically gave us the time and space to try to mount attacks ? I personally think that it was Birmingham's change of tactics that gave us a bit more of an attacking chance. Even then Brum could have scored at least 2 more in the second half. Yes I think we were better in the second half because of what we did, rather than Birmingham sitting back. We started to move the ball quicker, Hogg moved further up the pitch, Rudoni & Anjorin showed what they're capable of and we scored a well worked goal. Unfortunately Schofield decided to take Anjorin off which killed the momentum and allowed Birmingham back into the game. |
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Post by hoggy1975 on Aug 6, 2022 10:18:42 GMT 1
That's 5 bullying posts on a match thread. Very strange . At half time I said to someone screaming "fuck off Hoyle " that Hoyle want on the pitch . Those players are more than capable of producing better than that first half shitshow . Hoyle wasn't playing centre back . But if you perceive that as me "jumping on others posts " I suggest you get a life Bullying used to be when you got your dinner money pinched, or a good beating on the way home from school... most nights. Now it's hurty words on a football forum by someone who you don't even know. Get a grip you lot! Says the former admin who used to shut down threads because of ‘hurty words’. Laughable. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 6, 2022 10:36:46 GMT 1
Frankie - do you think we were better second half because of what WE did - altered tactics/changed personnel etc, or because Birmingham sat back and basically gave us the time and space to try to mount attacks ? I personally think that it was Birmingham's change of tactics that gave us a bit more of an attacking chance. Even then Brum could have scored at least 2 more in the second half. Yes I think we were better in the second half because of what we did, rather than Birmingham sitting back. We started to move the ball quicker, Hogg moved further up the pitch, Rudoni & Anjorin showed what they're capable of and we scored a well worked goal. Unfortunately Schofield decided to take Anjorin off which killed the momentum and allowed Birmingham back into the game. Tino signalled cramp coming on. Walked off rather gingerly. Brum really did start shithousing to some tune and the momentum changed but they actually pushed up, a good move from their coach and were able to support the bloke shithousing, we have seen us do this a lot before. We lost momentum by going sidewards too much for too long, its a tough one unless you have a big targetman to hit and support. |
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